Re: [Sursound] OT Stereo stage width - Was: Static stereo source in rotating soundfield, possible?

2016-03-30 Thread David Pickett
At 14:27 30-03-16, Peter Lennox wrote: > >At the back of my mind, the4re's something nagging me - I'm sure I've >read of someone advocating 3 speaker stereo (is that similar to >trifield?) and finding that a wider spacing of LR speakers was >desirable? - makes sense. Michael Gerzon, "Three Channe

Re: [Sursound] OT Stereo stage width - Was: Static stereo source in rotating soundfield, possible?

2016-03-30 Thread David Pickett
At 11:54 30-03-16, Eero Aro wrote: If 90 degrees between the speakers works for you, fine. Most likely the commercial recordings you are listening to, have been monitored with an 60 degrees angle, as that has been the "standard" setup in studios for more than 60 years. It didn't happen when 5.

Re: [Sursound] OT Stereo stage width - Was: Static stereo source in rotating soundfield, possible?

2016-03-29 Thread David Pickett
At 20:51 29-03-16, Peter Lennox wrote: >wasn't the original conception for stereo = 90 degrees, but 'hole in >the middle' effects led to standardising on the narrower figure? There seemd to be an echo in here! Running down the email and deleting as I go, I come to: &

Re: [Sursound] OT Stereo stage width - Was: Static stereo source in rotating soundfield, possible?

2016-03-28 Thread David Pickett
The problem with speakers at +/- 45 degrees is that one needs a wide room if one is to sit at a decent distance from them. However, it can be impressive. I have found the effect even better if a centre speaker of the same typeis added. Gerzon gave the ratios necessary for matrixing 2 channel

Re: [Sursound] Sennheiser Ambeo

2016-03-19 Thread David Pickett
At 17:14 17-03-16, Jon Honeyball wrote: >I wonder if they are even aware of soundfield? It is hardly unlikely that they are NOT aware: the method of holding the capsules together looks just like a Soundfield mic! David ___ Sursound mailing list Sur

Re: [Sursound] Sennheiser Ambeo

2016-03-19 Thread David Pickett
At 07:49 19-03-16, Courville, Daniel wrote: > >>http://www.engadget.com/2016/03/15/sennheiser-3d-audio-demo-ambeo/ > >And to give an idea of its size: >https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdmtiYHUUAAPcVG.jpg:large Comparing with an actual Rycote holder, I can see that on my monitor, which is 1920 x 1080

Re: [Sursound] Sennheiser Ambeo

2016-03-19 Thread David Pickett
At 19:55 17-03-16, alan.va...@talktalk.net wrote: > >Am I correct in thinking that patents expire after 10 years or so, >after which its a free-for-all? Ten years is a low figure. But I believe the original Ambisonic/Soundfield patents are no longer valid.

Re: [Sursound] OSSIC Kickstarter Campaign Begins

2016-03-08 Thread David Pickett
http://www.forbes.com/sites/amyguttman/2016/03/08/from-the-beatles-to-the-future-abbey-road-opens-first-music-tech-incubator-in-europe/3/#725b77bb10e2 says that Abbey Rd are taking them on in their "First Music Tech Incubator":

Re: [Sursound] Acoustic properties of round rooms ?

2016-03-07 Thread David Pickett
At 00:26 08-03-16, Sampo Syreeni wrote: On 2016-03-07, David Pickett wrote: Sorry, I should shave before writing. I meant magnetron, not klystron... Magnetrons are self-oscillating sources of microwave radiation. Of the fringed, multiplied, physical, secondary oscillator kind. Klystrons

Re: [Sursound] Acoustic properties of round rooms ?

2016-03-06 Thread David Pickett
Sorry, I should shave before writing. I meant magnetron, not klystron... There is a lot of stuff if you google circular microwave cavities. I havent looked in detail, but they are, as I expected, high Q devices, which is a much better way of putting what I was trying to say earlier in a ra

Re: [Sursound] Acoustic properties of round rooms ?

2016-03-06 Thread David Pickett
I wrote: >> I would look to see if any work has been done on the behaviour of >> comparable frequency transveres radio waves in circular waveguide. I mean comparable in terms of the ratios of the diameter of the waveguide and the wavelength of the signal. However, since I cant see a use for s

Re: [Sursound] Acoustic properties of round rooms ?

2016-03-06 Thread David Pickett
I thought at first of the membrane analysis, which of course involves Bessel functions, and which has been fully analysed in the text books. There is, however, surely a difference between a circular membrane contrained at the edges (and even sometimes elsewhere) and air, which consists of inde

Re: [Sursound] Acoustic properties of round rooms ?

2016-03-05 Thread David Pickett
At 15:35 05-03-16, Augustine Leudar wrote: >Ive had a search online but cant really find much literature about this. >Can anyone tell me anything about the acoustics of circular rooms/spaces ? >How to standing waves behave in circular spaces ? There is a strong standing wave at f = n/2D, where n

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic Decoder Design Resources

2016-02-21 Thread David Pickett
; >The years was 2011 or 2012, hit 2 in this search link gives a indication of >the subject of the discussion. >BR Bosse >On 20 Feb 2016 20:55, "David Pickett" wrote: > >> At 19:53 20-02-16, Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: >> >> >It has been verified by

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic Decoder Design Resources

2016-02-20 Thread David Pickett
At 19:53 20-02-16, Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: >It has been verified by listening test that for FOA it is optimal to not >have too many speakers in the horizontal ring. Look at old mails in the >list. This is a tall order: could you specify approx dates, subject lines, or keywords to search on? Al

Re: [Sursound] Never do electronic in public.

2016-02-03 Thread David Pickett
At 12:01 03-02-16, Justin Bennett wrote: >> On 02 Feb 2016, at 18:00, sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu wrote: >> >> From: David Pickett<mailto:d...@fugato.com> >>> >> >> But... I seem to be the only person I know who complains about ALL >> the di

Re: [Sursound] Never do electronic in public.

2016-02-02 Thread David Pickett
At 10:37 02-02-16, Politis Archontis wrote: >The issue is that all these emerging VR and AR technologies, >independently of if they will be successful or not, should be designed >from the bottom-up to deliver consistent and natural cues, especially >if you are mixing reality with the virtual. Oth

Re: [Sursound] Never do electronic in public.

2016-02-01 Thread David Pickett
At 07:42 02-02-16, umashankar manthravadi wrote: >For the moment, I would like video kept out of motion tracked audio on >headphones. I want this to be a system where I can sit in a rocking >chair and listen to music of many kinds on a good pair of headphones >and the headtracking is only to rein

[Sursound] Mike Skeet 1932 - 2015

2016-01-26 Thread David Pickett
A nice appreciation of Mike Skeet by Hugh Robjohns here: http://www.ips.org.uk/articles/2016/01/20/mike-skeet-1932-2015/ David ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit

Re: [Sursound] How to derive a good "universal" HRTF data set?

2016-01-25 Thread David Pickett
At 15:55 25-01-16, Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: >Does recording with in ear mics work for you? Binaural with headphones never really works for me, though sometimes fig 8 Bumlein stuff does on ambient noises; but I had an experience with in-ear mics once -- c. 1990. The mics were in somebody else's

Re: [Sursound] Sennheiser Easy 3D Recording and Modeling

2016-01-25 Thread David Pickett
At 14:26 25-01-16, umashankar manthravadi wrote: > >But a tetrahedron set up as top and three sides ­ I buiilt one like >that too, on the surface of a hemisphere. Yes, and although the signals can fairly simply be converted to A format, there is a perhaps a difference in practical pick up and m

Re: [Sursound] How to derive a good "universal" HRTF data set?

2016-01-25 Thread David Pickett
At 13:40 25-01-16, Chris wrote: Maybe a silly question... But how much work has been done on the self-consistency of HRTFs? I'm aware that ear-wax, colds, which way round I sleep, etc can affect the level and HF response of one ear to another. And clothing, haircuts etc must significantly cha

Re: [Sursound] Sennheiser Easy 3D Recording and Modeling

2016-01-25 Thread David Pickett
At 14:21 25-01-16, Courville, Daniel wrote: > >http://www.videomaker.com/videonews/2016/01/best-microphone-of-ces-201 >6-sennheiser-vr-mic > >This says four caps. OK. > If that's the case, it looks like a copy of the SF Mike. How can the article say: "This is the first VR Mic we've seen..." ?

Re: [Sursound] YouTube adds ambisonics support

2016-01-14 Thread David Pickett
At 14:13 14-01-16, Ben Bloomberg wrote: >Check it out! >https://github.com/google/spatial-media/blob/master/docs/spatial-audio-rfc.md > Is any provision made for periphonic signals, i.e. WXY without Z? Or is it expected to use an empty channel for Z? In which case, is there a possibility of

Re: [Sursound] 2016

2016-01-01 Thread David Pickett
A Happy New Year to all. May you all be surrounded by more ambience in 2016 than ever before! :) To Dave M: I hope you are not under water! David At 12:52 01-01-16, Dave Malham wrote: >Happy New Year to everyone > > >Dave ___ Sursound maili

Re: [Sursound] The Mike Skeet Collection

2015-12-20 Thread David Pickett
Richard, Sad to hear that he has died. His Garage Door recording is a classic -- although I only have it on the HFN CD, and assume that somewhere there are ambisonic files! I was thinking only the other day that most of my stuff would instantly lose value when I shuffle off my moral coil.

Re: [Sursound] Wireless speakers

2015-12-17 Thread David Pickett
At 13:27 17-12-15, Augustine Leudar wrote: >I look forward to the day when I hear the question "Grandad - what's an >audio cable ? Are you sure that you will live that long, given the enormous fields of RF flying around these days, and still increasing... :-) David _

[Sursound] Visual monitoring of surround sound

2015-12-07 Thread David Pickett
Apart from the obvious measurement of the amplitude and phase of the individual signals, which I do, I only have access to two ways of visually monitoring surround signals. I have always found a phase meter very informative in stereo. There is the centre zero "correlation" meter type, either

Re: [Sursound] OZO?

2015-12-07 Thread David Pickett
At 13:11 07-12-15, Steven Boardman wrote: >Our heads don't pivot at our ears, or roll perfectly on the joint. Our ears >aren't that level either. Which only adds to the differences. Mine are >quite visibily not level. With both pinar of a different size and shape. >Off piste I know but the filteri

Re: [Sursound] Dolby Atmos audio recording on sale...

2015-12-07 Thread David Pickett
A video of the making of the Gabrieli, which is available for a reasonable price as a 2 disc set (SACD and "Pure Audio" BluRay), can be seen at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP8zh3-4qrU At 12:39 07-12-15, David Pickett wrote: http://www.gramophone.co.uk/feature/dolby-atmos-ta

[Sursound] Dolby Atmos audio recording on sale...

2015-12-07 Thread David Pickett
http://www.gramophone.co.uk/feature/dolby-atmos-taking-music-into-a-new-dimension Of course, it needs hardware: UKL 350-2500... As these are recordings from Kings College Chapel, Cambridge, there is a chance of something real to listen to. A four channel surround recording that I made for EMI

Re: [Sursound] OZO?

2015-12-05 Thread David Pickett
At 19:27 05-12-15, Stefan Schreiber wrote: I have experimented with playing back three channel Mercury recording of Stravinsky's Firebird (LSO/Dorati) from SACD using three front loudpeakers and also played stereo using three loudspeakers, matrixing level and phase of the original channels a

Re: [Sursound] OZO?

2015-12-05 Thread David Pickett
At 17:26 05-12-15, Stefan Schreiber wrote: See: http://www.hauptmikrofon.de/HW/TMT2012_3DNaturalRecording_Theile_Wittek_2012_11.pdf, An interesting paper, which I shall read fully. But it says already on page 1: "5.1 increased the listening area and improved the stability and quality

Re: [Sursound] OT: Opportunities for Study and Funding at the University of Birmingham / BEAST

2015-11-20 Thread David Pickett
On 20 November 2015 at 19:58, David Pickett wrote: Another one. Sic transit... What the hell is acousmatic? Sounds like asthmatic. At 22:29 20-11-15, Dave Malham wrote: Hmm - well, it is a very "European" thing. I must have been away too long! But I just find it strange

Re: [Sursound] OT: Opportunities for Study and Funding at the University of Birmingham / BEAST

2015-11-20 Thread David Pickett
Another one. Sic transit... What the hell is acousmatic? Soiunds like asthmatic. D At 17:04 20-11-15, Scott Wilson wrote: > >Hi All, > >Just wanted to make you aware of opportunities for PhD and Masters >study at the University of Birmingham. We offer: > >The chance to join a department which

Re: [Sursound] IRCAM Artistic Research Residency Program - Call for proposals

2015-11-18 Thread David Pickett
At 17:58 18-11-15, Markus Noisternig wrote: > >Apologies for cross-posting > >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > >IRCAM Artistic Research Residency Program 2017 > >Featuring IRCAM Residency & Joint ZKM / IRCAM Residency Tracks >

Re: [Sursound] 8 channels on 12 volts

2015-11-01 Thread David Pickett
At 13:48 31-10-15, umashankar manthravadi wrote: >i should check the specs for the ic.it is a single chip and the board >looks well made - it says 50 watts per channel, but i would be happy >with about 18watts into 4 ohms per channel. (it should be capable of >that much - these are bridge outputs.

Re: [Sursound] Binaural broadcast

2015-10-28 Thread David Pickett
Whatever the BBC sound quality when broadcast live in the UK, having listened to most of the Proms 4.0 broadcasts over the past two years, I am not convinced that the sound over the internet is to be sneezed at. It sounds excellent here in central Europe. This is the link to one of the progra

Re: [Sursound] Browsers that play surround sound under HTML5.

2015-10-28 Thread David Pickett
I dont think I was here then, and the count may have increased since. I have 4.0 with B&Ws and control it from Samplitude or VLC and an RME UFX. My room is also small, but good 4.0 is better than any stereo (and I have examples of the best of that). David At 13:15 28-10-15, John Leonard

[Sursound] Browsers that play surround sound under HTML5.

2015-10-22 Thread David Pickett
Bruce Wiggins' webpage on browsers that play surround recordings using the HTML5 tag is 3.5 years old. http://www.brucewiggins.co.uk/?p=265 I dont use IE, and Firefox doesnt play ball at all on the PC, so I use Chrome for multi-channel aac files. http://www.fugato.com/pickett/surround-tests

Re: [Sursound] SQ QUAD

2015-10-21 Thread David Pickett
At 21:56 20-10-15, Richard wrote: >Alas it's far more complex than that, a quick look at the equation >will tell you that: > >Lt = Lf + (- j0.707Lb + 0.707Rb) > >Rt = Rf + (- 0.707Lb + j0.707 Rb ) If the inverse matrix of these equations is: LF = L RF = R LB = 0.707 * jL - 0.707 * R RB = 0.707

Re: [Sursound] SQ QUAD

2015-10-20 Thread David Pickett
nglas/SQdecode/SQdecode.html Eero 20.10.2015, 20:35, David Pickett kirjoitti: I dont expect them to ever sound as good as an Ambisonic recording, but I bought some SQ-encoded LPs today. I get pleasant results playing them out of phase with the same on two rear channels at -6 dB. My reason for wr

[Sursound] SQ QUAD

2015-10-20 Thread David Pickett
I dont expect them to ever sound as good as an Ambisonic recording, but I bought some SQ-encoded LPs today. I get pleasant results playing them out of phase with the same on two rear channels at -6 dB. My reason for writing is to ask whether anyone here knows what an SQ decoder actually did.

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-15 Thread David Pickett
At 14:35 15-10-15, Augustine Leudar wrote: >For creating true walk around 3d soundscapes with no sweet spot for >me a useful tool would be a driver which would be a sphere which put out >sounds in all directions (360) - because thats how sound often propogates >in real space (eg a twig cracking u

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-14 Thread David Pickett
At 23:17 14-10-15, Augustine Leudar wrote: >Yeah actually the lsr308 and lsr305 have been getting rave reviews and cost >very little their waveguide gives wide dispersal (good off axis response) >which is probably good for spatial audio. Good off axis response, i.e. uncoloured response, is presu

Re: [Sursound] Advice on new loudspeaker array... Genelec 8010 speakers?

2015-10-14 Thread David Pickett
At 19:51 14-10-15, Charles Veasey wrote: >Also, for the computer interface, I'm thinking about RME's HDSPe >RayDAT and M-32 >DA / M-16 DA I can say from experience that RME interfaces are first class. They meet their specs, are reliable, and you can easily get directly in touch with the compa

Re: [Sursound] [OT] Recording uni lectures ...

2015-09-21 Thread David Pickett
At 17:51 21-09-15, Jon Honeyball wrote: >smartphone with an appropriate Rode mic? One of these: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCE5wTt_tjQ ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - u

Re: [Sursound] St.350 controls

2015-09-21 Thread David Pickett
At 09:39 21-09-15, Jon Honeyball wrote: >Looking at the sound field.com site, at the ST450 instruction manual, >I see the pattern knob now goes to fig 8 (and not beyond it, unlike >the ST350 control). But the “Width” control still goes to 10 and >the instruction manual still says "Offers cont

Re: [Sursound] ambisonics audio for 360 film (VR)

2015-08-18 Thread David Pickett
Is everybody on the list getting gibberish (éäJ, etc), as I am? David At 19:42 18-08-15, Evan Mangiamele wrote: > >éäJš(‘ù¡zy0®+^°7š­+«®‹§u*.Ðâ±Ë¬²*'º.¤ˆZ½æÞzwè­Z0Šx-…ç¦j)l…êÞ~ŠÚ}ì&¢ >{a²z0N§“*.jYoz¼¦¹È_¢»!j¸§©Ýv+ºË"¢pbQyÕÄíW^•éڝÒ0¢¹¢»azk¬‰Æ§u« >ŠŠk¡Ûœ¶*'r‰©j|¬¦Š$~h§k-z·Z™g€žpeـž€zÈ ©Ýjçb¢

Re: [Sursound] ambisonics dronining

2015-08-16 Thread David Pickett
Excuse me, but is this the brilliant Windows 10's method of sending emails? I had to click on the link below, provide my email address, cut and paste the text into Notepad and then read in my browser! The answer to the secret question is "No, I havent." I am not sure that I would want to ris

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio 3 surround broadcast

2015-03-18 Thread David Pickett
At 13:37 13-03-15, Andy Furniss wrote: May be of interest to some on here - I don't know if it will be UK only though. http://rdmedia.bbc.co.uk/radio3/ http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05202hw This live broadcast of "Hear and Now" IS available outside the UK and can be listened to during th

Re: [Sursound] AES69-2015 standard for file exchange - Spatial acoustic data file format

2015-03-16 Thread David Pickett
Why is it I have the impression that some people do not actually READ the list postings of others? ;-) David At 18:29 16-03-15, Andrew Castiglione wrote: > > >FYI. > > > >From: AUDITORY - Research in Auditory Perception >[mailto:audit...@lists.mcgill.ca] On Behalf Of Markus Noisternig >Sent:

Re: [Sursound] Recording B-Format

2015-03-07 Thread David Pickett
At 23:57 07-03-15, Ricky Graham wrote: >Folks, many thanks for the very helpful responses. I will give this a >go on Monday evening. I’ll document and post the results. > >Ricky NOTA BENE: >> On Mar 6, 2015, at 12:00 PM, sursound-requ...@music.vt.edu wrote: >> Also, please EDIT the quoted po

Re: [Sursound] Recording B-Format

2015-03-05 Thread David Pickett
At 17:39 05-03-15, Ricky Graham wrote: >Does anyone have any experience recording B-Format with multiple >microphones set to specific polar patterns (i.e. if you dont have >access to an ambisonic / tetramic?). Is it possible? If so, what are >some of the issues / problems with this approach? In

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

2014-12-13 Thread David Pickett
At 00:54 14-12-14, Louis Mustill wrote: >Not used it myself but this might be of interest. >They make lovely kit generally. > >http://www.sounddevices.com/products/970/ > I should hope so at $4,629.00! http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1044277-REG/sound_devices_970_64_track_dante_and_madi.ht

Re: [Sursound] another 100k for "3D"

2014-10-24 Thread David Pickett
At 01:01 24-10-14, michael noble wrote: >Just saw this today. > >https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/124900576/hooke-wireless-3d-audio >-headphones > >Can't help but feel there might be some disappointed backers if final >product ever ships... Given that the "2D" extracts are MONO, it is hard t

Re: [Sursound] £100,000 for 3D sound development

2014-10-22 Thread David Pickett
At 02:45 22-10-14, Martin Leese wrote: >Hi All, > >Spotted this in the Engineering & Technology >magazine: > >£100,000 for 3D sound development > >A University of Huddersfield researcher aims >to bring sound reproduction into the 3D age >with a new system that would allow not only

[Sursound] More web surround and binaural from the BBC

2014-10-20 Thread David Pickett
The BBC is "recasting" Under Milk Wood in 5.1 and binaural -- available for 30 days from 25 October. Technical and other details here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2014/10/under-milk-wood-in-headphone-surround-sound David ___ Sursound mailing list

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic microphone construction papers

2014-10-01 Thread David Pickett
At 11:27 01-10-14, Steve Boardman wrote: >Unfortunately i'm not a member of AES yet, so can't view on their site. I think it particularly mean of the AES that they do not allow free downloads of articles from their website by members. These can be photographed in any decent Physics library.

Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0

2014-09-13 Thread David Pickett
Today is the last opportunity to hear the BBC live experimental 4.0 internet transmissions of this year's Proms from the Royal Albert Hall. The Last Night is made for sursound and should be worth hearing with the BBC's mic setup. The concert starts at 7:30 pm BST, which is 2:30 pm EDT. The t

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic Toolkit (ATK) for Reaper - Public beta v.1.0.b3

2014-09-13 Thread David Pickett
At 16:09 13-09-14, David Pickett wrote: To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic Toolkit (ATK) for Reaper - Public beta v.1.0.b3 At 11:54 12-09-14, Trond Lossius wrote: > On the Windows platform the plugins can also be used with other >VST-hosts by means

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic Toolkit (ATK) for Reaper - Public beta v.1.0.b3

2014-09-13 Thread David Pickett
At 11:54 12-09-14, Trond Lossius wrote: > On the Windows platform the plugins can also be used with other >VST-hosts by means of the ReaJS ReaPlugs plugin [1]. I would like to try the ambisonic plugins with Samplitude, but could someone tell me how I install use ATK with ReaPlugs, please? Dav

Re: [Sursound] Noise reduction on Ambisonic files

2014-08-05 Thread David Pickett
At 20:56 05-08-14, Joseph Anderson wrote: >I'd advise converting from B-format to A-format, then doing all >de-noising, compression, etc, in A-format. Followed by, re-encoding >back to B-format. What's the theory that predicts that the results will be any different than doing it on B-format, gi

Re: [Sursound] something I'd like to learn about as well Re: Re: [Bulk] Re: Spheric Collection: The Largest Ambisonic Surround Sound Library

2014-08-01 Thread David Pickett
It would help to know what is hidden behind this closed door: if interesting, I might be spurred on to work out what my password is. In the meantime, I have been able to hear most of the Proms in surround to date, and they are proving very well-worth setting up for. They dont generally start

Re: [Sursound] Spheric Collection: The Largest Ambisonic Surround Sound Library

2014-08-01 Thread David Pickett
At 13:42 01-08-14, Daniel Courville wrote: >Well, here's the proof that B-Format is useful for TV and cinema >post-production. > >http://spheric-collection.com > Which are the B-Format samples? All I can find are descrubed as "Binaural Virtual Surround Sound -- use headphones for best results".

Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0

2014-07-19 Thread David Pickett
I AM capturing it in the digital domain. It's 48kHz. David At 14:59 19-07-14, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 19.07.14 14:53, schrieb David Pickett: It has to be do-able, but how you actually manage it depends on your A/D/A converter, which must obviously be at least 4-track. I'm aw

Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0

2014-07-19 Thread David Pickett
>On 19 Jul 2014, at 10:13, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > >> Does anyone have the first idea how to record this stuff on a Mac? At 12:35 19-07-14, John Leonard wrote: >Well, it depends on how you're listening: because I'm using a Metric >Halo ULN-8, I just route the decoded signal through their con

Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0

2014-07-18 Thread David Pickett
At 21:38 18-07-14, John Leonard wrote: >Stream working well here - shame it's wildly out of sync with the >broadcast picture, though. > >Some distortion apparent on FF passages? > Yes, I heard some distortion on the violins in places: it sounds digital but I wasnt sure where it came from, as I'v

Re: [Sursound] BBC Proms in 4.0

2014-07-18 Thread David Pickett
At 15:34 18-07-14, Richard wrote: >Firstly, i must say a thank you for letting us know. But, after the >last test it is obvious that a large majority of us were unable to >enjoy these broadcasts due to the limited requirements. I should be interested to know what you mean by "limited requiremen

Re: [Sursound] Home Dolby Atmos: Overhead audio without the overhead loudspeaker?

2014-06-24 Thread David Pickett
At 13:11 24-06-14, Dave Malham wrote: >Interesting...maybe the clue is in the text "it all comes down to >understanding the physics of sound waves" together with the bit about " new >Dolby Atmos-enabled speakers that produce full, detailed overhead sound >from speakers located where your conventi

[Sursound] And now for something different...

2014-06-20 Thread David Pickett
http://www.technologyreview.com/news/527826/microsofts-3-d-audio-gives-virtual-objects-a-voice/ David ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, vi

Re: [Sursound] bbc gear for sale

2014-06-04 Thread David Pickett
Dear Granville, I hear there is BBC gear for auction here, though I cant find much of interest: http://www.ppauctions.com/_assets/auctions/115/flysheet/Flysheet.pdf Cheers, David ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.v

Re: [Sursound] 16-Channel Surround Concert - 7th June, Derby, UK

2014-06-03 Thread David Pickett
So no surround streaming? Just two-channels? 4.0 would be nice... (!) David At 17:36 03-06-14, Eero Aro wrote: David Pickett wrote: What does one need to decode this? To decode binaural? Cans, two ears. Eero ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound

Re: [Sursound] 16-Channel Surround Concert - 7th June, Derby, UK

2014-06-03 Thread David Pickett
What does one need to decode this? David At 16:44 03-06-14, Bruce Wiggins wrote: >A live binaural audio/video stream of the event (7.30 BST [GMT + 1] >Saturday 7th June) will be available at the following page: > >http://sigma7rosetta.co.uk/ > >cheers > >Bruce > >On 20 May 2014 10:19, Eero Aro

Re: [Sursound] format

2014-05-13 Thread David Pickett
I am on Window$ 7. Using Eudora for email. The problem is not in evidence with every posting, but it has been much worse recently. David At 11:39 13-05-14, Michael Chapman wrote: >> Does anybody know why I am receiving (only from >> this list and not from any other listservers) >> postings wi

[Sursound] format

2014-05-13 Thread David Pickett
Does anybody know why I am receiving (only from this list and not from any other listservers) postings without any line-breaks? I find them impossible to read. An example is below, although it may well have truncations that impose linebreaks by the time it is redistributed, which will make i

Re: [Sursound] B-Fromat microphone

2014-05-05 Thread David Pickett
Bravo on the mic! I have played your file (as my set up is restricted to 4.0 horizontal mode, I have only matrixed channels W, X & Y). I find it difficult to know at what level to set the W channel, as what appears to be going on all around is (excuse me, no offence intended!) rather chaotic

[Sursound] ÖRF Surround Sound ISO Image

2014-04-13 Thread David Pickett
This well-known website gives details of the ÖRF Surround tests: http://www.hauptmikrofon.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=68:orf-surround-techniques-comparison&catid=29:stereo&Itemid=58 I downloaded the ISO file here: http://www.hauptmikrofon.de/index.php?option=com_content&view

Re: [Sursound] MS output to 3 loudspeakers

2014-04-08 Thread David Pickett
At 21:06 08-04-14, David Pickett wrote: ><http://www.stereophile.com/content/upward-mobility-2-channels-surr ound-page-2> There are also ways of Matrixing LR stereo to LCR described by Gerzon in "Hierarchical Transmission System for Multispeaker Stereo", JAES, Vol.40,

Re: [Sursound] MS output to 3 loudspeakers

2014-04-08 Thread David Pickett
At 19:06 08-04-14, Paul Hodges wrote: >--On 08 April 2014 18:45 +0200 JQ Adams wrote: > >> My question pertains to play back to a three speaker setup (left, >> center, right)...would it be most correct to send the 'mid' signal >> directly to a center speaker and the 'side' signal to speakers left

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31. March)

2014-03-30 Thread David Pickett
According to Rupert Brun, Head of Technology for BBC Radio, the rate used for the 4.0 streaming frm the South Bank was 48kHz. What I dont like is that one can record the stream at 44.1kHz and the sample rate conversion appears to be dont in Windows. Is there a means of actually showing the sa

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31. March)

2014-03-20 Thread David Pickett
to it, and no errors were reported by the software. But I am guessing... David >--On 19 March 2014 18:47 +0100 David Pickett wrote: > >> A bit scary that, as Paul said, Microsoft employ SRC automatically if >> you get it wrong... > >Actually, after thinking ab

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31. March)

2014-03-19 Thread David Pickett
, Kees de Visser wrote: > >> On 19 Mar 2014, at 07:33, David Pickett wrote: >> > I suspect that most of the problems last night were at the originating >> end, though there were cases when there were beats missing as the stream >> caught up, which seemed more likely

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31. March)

2014-03-18 Thread David Pickett
At 23:33 18-03-14, Paul Hodges wrote: >--On 18 March 2014 23:18 +0100 David Pickett wrote: > >> BBC server went down several times this evening. > >What I don't understand is why things like that go down so easily; it >may be hard to get a computer system runn

[Sursound] HTML5 and sursound.

2014-03-18 Thread David Pickett
I have a question about putting surround on the Internet. Apart from needing the right browser to hear anything, if one uses WAV files, no problem (apparently); but if one is using FLAC or OGG it seems to me that there are potential level and phase problems unless the channels are all compress

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31. March)

2014-03-18 Thread David Pickett
BBC server went down several times this evening. But the rebuilt RFH organ sounded much improved, and from time to time I could imagine I was there. Orchestra and piano tomorrow evening. David ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://

Re: [Sursound] BBC Surround Streaming update

2014-03-18 Thread David Pickett
At 12:48 18-03-14, Paul Hodges wrote: >Do we know the sample rate of the transmissions? I just tested >four-channel recording with the audio interface (and AudioMulch) set to >44.1k (as they happened to be), which worked - but if the sample rate >is actually 48k then the Windows SRC will have bee

[Sursound] BBC Surround Steaming update

2014-03-18 Thread David Pickett
For the next week or two, BBC Radio 3 is broadcasting the evening concerts live from the South Bank's "Pull out all the Stops" festival, and as far as I can make out, the intention is to stream all of these in 4.0, using HTML5 with AAC-LC codec at 320kb/s. The concerts all begin at 19:30 GMT (

Re: [Sursound] BBC Streaming trial

2014-03-17 Thread David Pickett
At 02:47 18-03-14, Marc Lavallée wrote: >Are the 4 channels streams available after the concert? It seems that they are realtime only. David ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound

[Sursound] BBC Concert tonight

2014-03-17 Thread David Pickett
Pace Paul, by the time it got to the third movement of the Dvorak, I was quite impressed. The Festival Hall is not over-endowed with ambiance, but when I turned the back up a bit, what I heard was akin to what I often hear in a concert hall when not too close to the stage, as opposed to when I

Re: [Sursound] Question about UHJ

2014-03-17 Thread David Pickett
At 23:03 17-03-14, mgra...@mstvp.com wrote: > > Weren't the first digital recorders actually adapted helical scan video > ones? Because, I mean, those things are line accurate by necessity, so > that once you have them time coded, you ought to be able to get sample > accurate registration of the c

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31.March)

2014-03-17 Thread David Pickett
At 21:46 17-03-14, Paul Hodges wrote: >--On 17 March 2014 20:52 +0100 David Pickett wrote: > >> The go to http://rdmedia.bbc.co.uk/radio3/index.html and click on the >> play button, and four channels of Brahms Tragic Overture appeared. > >Followed by John Lill playing

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31.March)

2014-03-17 Thread David Pickett
At 21:07 17-03-14, Augustine Leudar wrote: >> >> "I installed Chrome (having previously set a System Restore Point), " >You are such a drama queen :) I'm glad you got it working though - Ill have >to try this out No. I have learned not to trust dwnloaded software, after some bad experiences!

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31.March)

2014-03-17 Thread David Pickett
Having tried earlier to get this to work -- unsuccessfully because I was messing with the Realtek HD Audio Manager which turend out to be irrelevant -- I decided to have another go at fooled around with my PC and, as is often the case, it suddenly started doing what I wanted (perseverance is in

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31. March)

2014-03-16 Thread David Pickett
At 19:30 16-03-14, Augustine Leudar wrote: >right mouse button over volume control in bottom right hand corner > >playack devices > click RME > set default > restart browser/applet On that panel each of the pairs of RME output is presented separately... (I'll look for the documentation on the

Re: [Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31. March)

2014-03-16 Thread David Pickett
At 18:55 16-03-14, Augustine Leudar wrote: >Good find ! Chrome isn't so bad actually - I use it firefox and opera - >chrome is by far the fastest to load and less memory hungry than >firefox though I too prefer firefox > Ok, if I take a chance oin Chrome not taking over my machine, then the

[Sursound] BBC Radio Three Surround Streaming Trial (15. to 31. March)

2014-03-16 Thread David Pickett
I just stumbled on this: http://rdmedia.bbc.co.uk/radio3/faq.html I have an appropriate soundcard; but am not sure I want to install Google Chrome... (Bummer that it doesnt work on Firefox!) has anyone David ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@mus

Re: [Sursound] 4 D sound (!)

2014-03-05 Thread David Pickett
At 23:43 05-03-14, Aaron Heller wrote: >On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 1:52 PM, David Pickett wrote: > >> At 21:06 05-03-14, Dave Hunt wrote: >> >>1. 4 D sound (!) (Dave Malham) >>>>2. Re: 4 D sound (!) (Ronald C.F. Antony) >>>>3. Re: 4 D

Re: [Sursound] 4 D sound (!)

2014-03-05 Thread David Pickett
At 21:06 05-03-14, Dave Hunt wrote: 1. 4 D sound (!) (Dave Malham) 2. Re: 4 D sound (!) (Ronald C.F. Antony) 3. Re: 4 D sound (!) (Dave Malham) 4. Re: 4 D sound (!) (Eero Aro) 5. Re: 4 D sound (!) (Michael Chapman) 6. Re: 4 D sound (!) (Augustine Leudar) 7. Re: 4 D sound (!)

Re: [Sursound] [OT] Job: Postdoctoral Research Associate position at DXARTS

2014-02-28 Thread David Pickett
Dear Robin, I am sure you are right about Bennett: you go back a long way with Scarecrow and I am just jaundiced about US publishers (e.g. OUP!) Got this in my inbox. "mechatronics and digital fabrication"??? Brave New World that I am glad not to be a part of... With all those requiremen

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