RE: [Biofuel] Methanol update

2004-10-25 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Keith and Peggy ; I am working my way through these links, and it is perfect timing. I truely was starting to assemble the materials to make the Charles 803 from JtF web site. I didn't order the plansm but I could do it from the web site. I always wondered about that right angle elbow at

RE: [Biofuel] Mushrooms. Was - Methanol update

2004-10-25 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Peggy ; LOTS of good info in this ethanol process post. OK! I think you'll get a few serious inquiries. The last time I visitied the rice mash distillery, I floated the idea of the Charles 803 at around $600. They were not too interested at all. So this will take some time. I have

Re: [Biofuel] Canadian Trash

2004-10-25 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Eric ; Yes centrifugal and centripetal are confusing. Let me try. Let's say you set a bowling ball down on the bowling lane so it is stationary. Now you push the ball down the lane with your hand. Your hand feels a force pushing back from the ball, but is it really a force? No it isn't.

[Biofuel] Re: Re: [space-city] Re: SPACE STATION CREWS TAKE QUESTIONS FROM ORBIT (fwd)

2004-10-25 Thread Party of Citizens
Perhaps you failed to understand plain English. I said Wind up and throw like Mickey Mantle to launch the satellite from the top, since I think 60 miles is LEO and there is almost no friction from atmosphere. Otherwise you have not explained why this pile of sand or whatever would collapse.

Re: [Biofuel] Canadian Trash

2004-10-25 Thread Party of Citizens
I defer to the physicists on this but my guess would be that the sheer weight of the pile of trash or sand (eg from Tar Sands, Alberta) would be the limiting factor. It might crush the earth's crust or move it and cause eathquakes. However, in the case of Tar Sands, we are moving the sand

Re: [Biofuel] Canadian Trash

2004-10-25 Thread dwoodard
Correct. It's why sites near the Equator are the most favourable for launching rockets into orbit. Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, Darryl McMahon wrote: Erik Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] [snip] So, to rephrase my earlier question. Wouldn't the inertial force

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-25 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, Greg I'm not here to argue, as they say one more than one way to skin a cat and one will use that works out best for them. Anyway because of the exchange, I and others who may have been following learned new ways to skin the cat. Later... Doug - Original Message - From: Greg

Re: [Biofuel] Swamp cooler

2004-10-25 Thread Guag Meister
Hey Demian ; What an excellent link! I think it may not work well in Kim's case due to her high humidity, but the rotating air scoops for both intake and exhaust is an excellent idea. These scoops would work regardless of the humidity. Thanks for the link! Checked out your good site. Your

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-25 Thread Doug Younker
Daryl, You have me pondering this screw powered splitter. Would you arrange it so the screw is under tension or compression on the splitting stroke? What style of thread would you use, would you use a single or double helix? IMO Greg probably has the simple method of taking up the slack.

Re: [Biofuel] Kids Opt for Kerry

2004-10-25 Thread John Hayes
Thanks for sharing the nice story about your taxes. But frankly, I don't see how it can be true. If it is, your accountant is either an idiot or a crook. Either that, or you're not telling the whole story. When you jump from one tax bracket to the next, only the amount over the cutoff is

Re: [Biofuel] Swamp cooler-cool storage

2004-10-25 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, Forgive the nitpicking. This couldn't be a %100 passive at my home. I'm on my own private well and it would take power to pump water up to the top of the cooling tower. In reference to the cool storage thread, I managed to find a copy of a book recommended in that thread and in that

Re: [Biofuel] Canadian Trash

2004-10-25 Thread Doug Younker
While I'm sure that there are many factors involved in selecting a launch site but, Kodiak Island http://www.akaerospace.com/klc/ has to be pretty far from the equator. Doug - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 6:13 PM

[Biofuel] GM soybean and biofuel

2004-10-25 Thread Feini Tuang
This may not be something new, but recently I discovered genetically modified (GM) soybean cooking oils made its way to Walmart shelf in China. It was quite a surprise for me to learn that most of the major vegetable oil brand names in China are using imported GM soybeans in their mixed

Re: [Biofuel] Canadian Trash

2004-10-25 Thread Party of Citizens
Looks interesting alright but the nice thing about the Tar Sands of Alberta is that the sand tailings over the next few centuries could easily make a sand pile that high and they have to go somewhere. So why not up? Z Zandu Goldbar King

Re: [Biofuel] Conversation with a Conservative -was: Kerry left

2004-10-25 Thread Appal Energy
Jeff, you certainly don't have much problem hopping, skipping and jumping all over the place. You might want to make sure that there's a stone to jump to in front of each foot before you leap though. You ask a question: Just what has Bush done to harm the enviroment? and without even

Re: [Biofuel] Canadian Trash

2004-10-25 Thread Jeff Welter
why don't we inject our trash into the earth's core and collect the pyrolyzed gases? Ok, so I threw this out there just for fun... JEFF Original Message Follows From: Party of Citizens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED],

RE: [Biofuel] Methanol update

2004-10-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Keith and Peggy ; I am working my way through these links, and it is perfect timing. I truely was starting to assemble the materials to make the Charles 803 from JtF web site. Huh? WHERE on the JtF web site did you find any mention of Mr Warren and the Charles 803 still? It was all

Re: [Biofuel] Swamp cooler

2004-10-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hey Demian ; What an excellent link! I think it may not work well in Kim's case due to her high humidity, but the rotating air scoops for both intake and exhaust is an excellent idea. These scoops would work regardless of the humidity. Thanks for the link! Checked out your good site.

[Biofuel] Bush's environmental harm

2004-10-25 Thread info
Hi, Here are just a few points on what Bush has done to harm the environment. Bush's Horrible Environmental Record George W. Bush has had the worst environmental record imaginable. He has rolled back fifty years of pro-environment legislation while claiming to be helping improve the

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol update

2004-10-25 Thread ron
Any input will help. Ron Keith Addison wrote: Hello Peter Hi Keith and Peggy ; I am working my way through these links, and it is perfect timing. I truely was starting to assemble the materials to make the Charles 803 from JtF web site. Huh? WHERE on the JtF web site did you find any

Re: [Biofuel] Conversation with a Conservative -was: Kerry left

2004-10-25 Thread Keith Addison
Just what has Bush done to harm the enviroment? LOL! Where to start? Anywhere, I guess... Here? Crimes Against Nature George W. Bush will go down as the worst environmental president in U.S. history, says Robert F. Kennedy. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Interviewed By Jeff Fleischer October

[Biofuel] 100 Facts and 1 Opinion - The Non-Arguable Case Against the Bush Administration

2004-10-25 Thread Keith Addison
material. - Keith -- http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20041108s=facts Posted October 20, 2004 100 Facts and 1 Opinion The Non-Arguable Case Against the Bush Administration by Judd Legum IRAQ 1. The Bush Administration has spent more than $140 billion on a war of choice in

Re: [Biofuel] GM soybean and biofuel

2004-10-25 Thread Legal Eagle
feedstock is GM'd or not, however as a health issue it does make a difference. http://members.tripod.com/~ngin/deceit2.html contains a bit more info on Monsanto's take on it. Luc - Original Message - From: Feini Tuang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October

Re: [Biofuel] Bush's environmental harm

2004-10-25 Thread Hakan Falk
He is an evil man who is gassing his own people, I heard that before and I think it was about someone in the Middle East. The connection between air pollution and death in cancer is well proven and established. It is even roughly known approximately how many it is per year, for different

Re: [Biofuel] Reaction from the US to the Guardian's Clark County project

2004-10-25 Thread Kirk McLoren
They had to add 100 free points to the SAT scores so that Americans wouldn't notice the drop in scholastic performance in 1 generation. It isn't just the schools fault either. I think a lot of Americans are tuned out and doing what feels good is the alpha and omega of their existance. Would be

Re: [Biofuel] Conversation with a Conservative -was: Kerry left

2004-10-25 Thread Doug Younker
Oh come on, it's silly to give GWB credit for doing something he had no choice but to do. No matter who occupied the white house on 9/11/2001 wouldn't had no choice but, to declare war on the Al Quida operations in Afghanistan, they may or may not have began a war in Iraq so ill prepared, if

Re: [Biofuel] off topic-Bush's record speaks for itself

2004-10-25 Thread info
As Oprah Slaps Bush - With 30 states poised to smack down women's rights again, the one true savior emerges http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2004/10/13/notes101304.DTL EDITORIAL: A closer look at the Bush record

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol update

2004-10-25 Thread Keith Addison
I am new around here but I am looking for info on methanol production. Any input will help. Ron I suggest you spend some time, or perhaps quite a lot of time, browsing the list archives, there's a lot to be found there. http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Best wishes Keith Keith

[Biofuel] Backyard tools - log splitter

2004-10-25 Thread Go Hoff
Here is a drawing Keith has kindly put up for perusal: http://journeytoforever.org/bflpics/Logsplitter.jpg It's a spring assisted lever log splitter. It is entirely hand powered and relies upon the power achieved with the momentum of a heavy axe which resists sudden arrest. If the base is

Re: [Biofuel] Backyard tools - log splitter

2004-10-25 Thread Andres Yver
Here is a drawing Keith has kindly put up for perusal: http://journeytoforever.org/bflpics/Logsplitter.jpg It's a spring assisted lever log splitter. It is entirely hand powered and relies upon the power achieved with the momentum of a heavy axe which resists sudden arrest. If the base is

Re: [Biofuel] Backyard tools - log splitter

2004-10-25 Thread Go Hoff
On 2004-10-25 13.35, Andres Yver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, What creates the force to lower the axe head? A sledge? The lever arm? Is this like a big nutcracker? thanks, andres You are standing in front of the thing and you lift up on the handle which in spite of the heavy bit the

Re: [Biofuel] Canadian Trash

2004-10-25 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Z and All ; The tallest mountains on the earth are in the ocean. This is because the seawater helps support their weight. There exists a maximum height for mountains on the earth and not in the ocean. It is about 40,000 feet (going from memory here). Higher than that and the pressure at

[Biofuel] US Rejects World Calls to Join Russia in Ratifying Kyoto Pact

2004-10-25 Thread Keith Addison
Published on Saturday, October 23, 2004 by Agence France Presse US Rejects World Calls to Join Russia in Ratifying Kyoto Pact A major blow to President Bush and his paymasters in the fossil fuel industry. His administration and other climate criminals like Exxon-Mobil have failed in their

Re: [Biofuel] Kyoto and Australia

2004-10-25 Thread Keith Addison
%255E1702,00.html The Australian: [October 23, 2004] 'Bad environment policies continue' October 23, 2004 THE Federal Government's environmental policies meant a continuation of the practices which had caused Australia to have the fourth worst environmental impact of all countries,

Re: [Biofuel] On demand boiling water?

2004-10-25 Thread grahams
I would not give up the on-demand boiling water unit. Perhaps put some additional insulation around the housing to retain heat when power is off. Ours definitely reduces our electrical consumption relative to an electric kettle (which is in turn better than a conventional kettle on a burner

Re: [Biofuel] Backyard tools - log splitter

2004-10-25 Thread Greg Harbican
Interesting pic.Keith, care to make some comments about how it works? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Andres Yver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 05:35 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Backyard tools - log splitter Hi, What creates the force

RE: [Biofuel] Methanol update

2004-10-25 Thread Guag Meister
Hi Keith ; Keith wrote: Please make sure of just which website you're talking about, confirm that it ISN'T the Journey to Forever web site, and no need to tell us which one it is. Opps. So sorry about that. You are right. It was another web page which I had saved to my hard drive, so I

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol update

2004-10-25 Thread Legal Eagle
http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exactAcronym=AFAIKFind=Find Luc - Original Message - From: Guag Meister [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 10:57 AM Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Methanol update Hi Keith ; Keith wrote: Please make sure

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol from Trees

2004-10-25 Thread bob allen
Trees injured by the felling of neighboring ones are left to become infected by pathogen. These infected trees then produce inferior seed which then grow into inferior stock. Whoa, sure sounds like a Lamarkian hypothesis to me!So if I cut the tail off my dog, she will have

RE: [Biofuel] Methanol update

2004-10-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Keith ; Keith wrote: Please make sure of just which website you're talking about, confirm that it ISN'T the Journey to Forever web site, and no need to tell us which one it is. Opps. So sorry about that. You are right. It was another web page which I had saved to my hard drive, so

[Biofuel] Reap Canada Renewable energies

2004-10-25 Thread Legal Eagle
I met the director at the beginning of the summer on his way to China. http://www.reap-canada.com/ Luc ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

[Biofuel] Diesel gokart

2004-10-25 Thread Keith Addison
http://journeytoforever.org/gokart1.jpg http://journeytoforever.org/gokart2.jpg http://journeytoforever.org/gokart3.jpg It's powered by a 200cc 4.9hp Yanmar two-wheeled tractor motor, running on biodiesel. It's been the centre of attraction wherever it's appeared so far. It's not the only

Re: [Biofuel] Canadian Trash

2004-10-25 Thread Party of Citizens
That is why I had suggested blocks made of silica aerogel. Z http://www.geocities.com/partyofcitizens Citizens for the inherent dignity and worth of the human person Quoted words from UDHR/CAT On Mon, 25 Oct 2004, Guag Meister wrote: Hi Z and All ; The

Re: [Biofuel] Diesel gokart

2004-10-25 Thread Legal Eagle
to challenge the best might be on the way ? Luc - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:42 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Diesel gokart Check out this great gokart one of our friends built.

[Biofuel] Re: [space-city] Re: SPACE STATION CREWS TAKE QUESTIONS FROM ORBIT (fwd)

2004-10-25 Thread Party of Citizens
Dear Bimiwat: I had already noted that the weight of the sand might be too much for the earth's crust to bear so I suggested silica aerogel blocks. Otherwise, the idea of the great height was the same as that behind the vacuum tube for rocket trains which Robert Goddard, father of rocketry in

Re: [Biofuel] On demand boiling water?

2004-10-25 Thread Kim Garth Travis
I am curious about this appliance. I use propane to cook with (not an electric burner), but for heating water, I had read once that using a microwave was cheaper and more energy efficient- as long as the amount you needed was a cup or two. I would love a definite answer on the best way to

Re: [Biofuel] Electric Yard Tools (was Trees and power companies)

2004-10-25 Thread Kim Garth Travis
Have fun! (I really enjoy splitting wood. It's almost a shame that we have a full pile for this winter. Almost.) Erik Where are you? I will provide tools, beverages and food if you would care to come and do mine!grin Bright Blessings, Kim ___

[Biofuel] Brazilian Ethanol Plane: Ipanema, greener and cheaper to fly

2004-10-25 Thread Juan Boveda
Hello Keith and all. The green way is more than ecomically feasible, in the case of an airplane with its new certified Ethanol Fueled Engine in this crop-dusting airplane The Ipanema, the numbers are in very much favor to Ethanol for operational cost eventhough a litle more expensive to buy