[Biofuel] A little clarification

2006-04-18 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, I do believe that many people on this list don't read real well. I did say I was in favor of colonizing the stars, not the colonizing that happened in past history and is happening today by the corporate world. I do find good in many bad situations. Do I wish that certain changes

[Biofuel] Mixer or agitator standard

2006-04-18 Thread Setiyadi
Does any one know the standard specs. of an agitator for 100 lt biodiesel reactor and catalyst preparation, please ? - Motor type and specification - type of impeler Thanks Best Regards, Sty ___ Biofuel mailing list

Re: [Biofuel] A little clarification

2006-04-18 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Kim Greetings, I do believe that many people on this list don't read real well. I think you're relying on it. No doubt a new subject-title and dumping all the evidence helps. The ones who disagree with you read quite well though. The un-keyhole view is of Kim trying to backpedal her way

Re: [Biofuel] Drum Wrench was Re: Help needed.

2006-04-18 Thread Michael Luich
Northern tools as well: http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/NTESearch?storeId=6970N=0Ntk=AllNtt=bung%20plug%20wrenchNty=1D=bung%20plug%20wrenchNtx=mode+matchallpartialDx=mode+matchallpartial On 4/18/06, Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Drum Wrench:

Re: [Biofuel] Mixer or agitator standard

2006-04-18 Thread Appal Energy
1/2 HP, 1,275 rpm with thermal switch and TEFC rated, accompanied by a 4, SS, prop-type, impeller would be more than adequate.. Setiyadi wrote: Does any one know the standard specs. of an agitator for 100 lt biodiesel reactor and catalyst preparation, please ? - Motor type and

Re: [Biofuel] A little clarification

2006-04-18 Thread Michael Redler
I just wanted to chime in here.Keith wrote: "It reached a stage here where the list would not have survived unless we'd formulated the rules, which were already there, we didn't just make them up."It's alsotoo commonto see a reactionary restriction of _expression_, screening all posts

[Biofuel] my opinion of Northern Tool

2006-04-18 Thread lendzian_michael
Keith, et. al., I cannot not in good conscience recommend the vendor Northern Tool. They market products of poor quality, sell warranties quickly for the same products and when those products fail- won't deliver per the terms of the warranty. Respectfully submitted, Michael The British

Re: [Biofuel] my opinion of Northern Tool

2006-04-18 Thread Jonathan Dunlap
Good day, Thank you for the FYI! Thank you, Jonathan[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith, et. al.,I cannot not in good conscience recommend the vendor Northern Tool. They market products of poor quality, sell warranties quickly for the same products and when those products fail- won't deliver per

Re: [Biofuel] A little clarification

2006-04-18 Thread Mike Weaver
Rudtard Kipling is rolling is his grave but William Easterly probably approves of pretty much everything you've said. Michael Redler wrote: I just wanted to chime in here. Keith wrote: It reached a stage here where the list would not have survived unless we'd formulated the rules,

Re: [Biofuel] Help needed.

2006-04-18 Thread Mike Weaver
You can make one too - just use a piece of wood and two screws - then pop the seal, and slooowly turn the bung... Chris Tan wrote: Thanks everyone. I probably need a bung plug wrench which I don't have an idea of. I 'll go research on the net. Thanks, Chris -Original Message- From:

Re: [Biofuel] my opinion of Northern Tool

2006-04-18 Thread Mike Weaver
Yup, don't buy the warranty. If you are looking for a cheap one or two time use tool I've bought their stuff. Harbor Freight is similar. Good for tarps, bungees, spare toolkit for car Jonathan Dunlap wrote: Good day, Thank you for the FYI! Thank you, Jonathan */[EMAIL PROTECTED]/*

Re: [Biofuel] my opinion of Northern Tool

2006-04-18 Thread Mike Weaver
I'm sure I doubt that The British philosopher Bertrand Russell once wrote that the trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. Michael Lendzian ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Mixer or agitator standard

2006-04-18 Thread Mike Weaver
I use a big old drill with a homemade paddle Appal Energy wrote: 1/2 HP, 1,275 rpm with thermal switch and TEFC rated, accompanied by a 4, SS, prop-type, impeller would be more than adequate.. Setiyadi wrote: Does any one know the standard specs. of an agitator for 100 lt biodiesel

Re: [Biofuel] Mixer or agitator standard

2006-04-18 Thread Appal Energy
I use a big old drill with a homemade paddle Hence the qualifier more than adequate. Todd Swearingen Mike Weaver wrote: I use a big old drill with a homemade paddle Appal Energy wrote: 1/2 HP, 1,275 rpm with thermal switch and TEFC rated, accompanied by a 4, SS, prop-type, impeller

[Biofuel] You were saying?

2006-04-18 Thread Mike Weaver
*JAPANESE OFFICIALS RESIGN OVER U.S. MAD COW DEBACLE* Despite new cases of Mad Cow disease surfacing in the U.S., Japan is reopening its borders to American beef. As a result of the policy decision half of the members of Japan's beef-safety government advisory panel have resigned. Morikazu

Re: [Biofuel] Mixer or agitator standard

2006-04-18 Thread Mike Weaver
and I can use it for ice cream Appal Energy wrote: I use a big old drill with a homemade paddle Hence the qualifier more than adequate. Todd Swearingen Mike Weaver wrote: I use a big old drill with a homemade paddle Appal Energy wrote: 1/2 HP, 1,275 rpm with thermal

Re: [Biofuel] You were saying?

2006-04-18 Thread Michael Redler
"The advance of liberty is the path to both a safer and better world."- George W. Bush, Speech to United Nations General Assembly (September 21, 2004)1.) 1% testing of US cattle for mad cow disease/"shares" risk with Japan 2.) World Health Organization ranks US37 in health care quality

Re: [Biofuel] You were saying?

2006-04-18 Thread Mike Weaver
Redler, why do you hate freedom so much? Get with the program. Michael Redler wrote: The advance of liberty is the path to both a safer and better world. - George W. Bush, Speech to United Nations General Assembly (September 21, 2004) 1.) 1% testing of US cattle for mad cow

Re: [Biofuel] Small oil press

2006-04-18 Thread Keith Addison
Hi all The designer and manufacturer of the Piteba oil press, Edwin Blaak in the Netherlands, wrote to me offlist a week ago, in response to the discussion at the list. I guess somebody pointed him at the messages in archives. I wrote back and said I didn't much agree with him, but I didn't

Re: [Biofuel] my opinion of Northern Tool

2006-04-18 Thread Keith Addison
Keith, et. al., I cannot not in good conscience recommend the vendor Northern Tool. They market products of poor quality, sell warranties quickly for the same products and when those products fail- won't deliver per the terms of the warranty. Respectfully submitted, Michael Hi Michael Our

Re: [Biofuel] Bring the Sixties Out of the Closet

2006-04-18 Thread greg Kelly
No problem...what's BioK?FWIW, I really don't feel myself on the antibiotics - my digestion is fouled up.It is clearly not infected I wonder it I can stop them? Conventional wisdom is that once you start a regimen of antibiotics, you finish them. If you stop in mid-regimen, you run the risk of

Re: [Biofuel] You were saying?

2006-04-18 Thread Michael Redler
...sorry.I don't know what came over me.:-)Mike Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Redler,why do you hate freedom so much?Get with the program.Michael Redler wrote: "The advance of liberty is the path to both a safer and better world." - George W. Bush, Speech to United Nations

Re: [Biofuel] my opinion of Northern Tool

2006-04-18 Thread Chip Mefford
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith, et. al., I cannot not in good conscience recommend the vendor Northern Tool. They market products of poor quality, sell warranties quickly for the same products and when those products fail- won't deliver per the terms of the warranty. Respectfully

[Biofuel] CHEERS study

2006-04-18 Thread Bobby Clark
I recently saw reference to this study in an email and a reference link to a story on an organic consumers website. For one thing the study has been cancelled. Secondly, the EPA was not going to ask parents to spray the pesticides in their homes; it was going to monitor small children that were

Re: [Biofuel] A little clarification

2006-04-18 Thread Chip Mefford
Michael Redler wrote: I just wanted to chime in here. Keith wrote: It reached a stage here where the list would not have survived unless we'd formulated the rules, which were already there, we didn't just make them up. It's also too common to see a reactionary

Re: [Biofuel] You were saying?

2006-04-18 Thread Mike Weaver
As you were, then. Good Pentagon interview with our boy Rummy on. He acts like the whole Iraq/Afganistan is just so much hoopla to be wise-cracked about. Some of the reporters were asking some great questions, which he ducked. Michael Redler wrote: ...sorry. I don't know what came over

Re: [Biofuel] A little clarification

2006-04-18 Thread Michael Redler
Chip wrote: "I had a post 'screened' a few months back, which led to a lively off-list debate..."If all posts on that thread were screened, I disagree with your assessment. However, I agree with subsequent screening/deleting after the list members had a chance to read and dissent to the

Re: [Biofuel] You were saying?

2006-04-18 Thread Hakan Falk
Mike, Now I finally got it and understand the meaning of freedom versus liberty. Freedom as practiced in US at the moment, also means freedom from responsibility and accountability. Liberty do carry some expectations on responsibility and accountability, which are the parts that US lacks at

Re: [Biofuel] You were saying?

2006-04-18 Thread Mike Weaver
Hakan, Freedom means the freedom to borrow 2 billion a week to support a war we've already lost. Freedom means never having to say you're sorry. Freedom means completely trashing a country then getting distracted by a 2 bit tinhorn tyrant in another country and forgetting you promised to

[Biofuel] my opinion of Northern Tool

2006-04-18 Thread lendzian_michael
Thanks Keith. Keep on trucking! Michael Lendzian ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html

Re: [Biofuel] CHEERS study

2006-04-18 Thread Michael Redler
Bobby,You wrote: "For one thing the study has been cancelled."I providedmy sourcefor people to read more on their own. There was no deception. Ipointed out the programas an indication of what the EPA EnvironmentalPROTECTION Agency)is willing to do.(IMO),the fact that it was canceled, does

Re: [Biofuel] CHEERS study

2006-04-18 Thread marilyn
When Senator Barbara Boxer from California spoke in Senate committee hearings about this, she said the parents were being paid to use the pesticides in their homes so the results could be studied in their children. I hope your version is right, not hers because it is more humane. I am curious

Re: [Biofuel] A little clarification

2006-04-18 Thread marilyn
I hope that too much restriction does not take place because I learn a lot from reading reactions to each other's statements. It helps me clarify my own thinking by watching people try to help others clarify and defend their positions. I want to understand why people feel they way they do.

Re: [Biofuel] my opinion of Northern Tool

2006-04-18 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Chip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith, et. al., I cannot not in good conscience recommend the vendor Northern Tool. They market products of poor quality, sell warranties quickly for the same products and when those products fail- won't deliver per the terms of the warranty.

[Biofuel] Nettle Juice

2006-04-18 Thread robert luis rabello
Hello everyone! We've been intending to harvest wild stinging nettles for awhile now, but it's been rainy for the last week and we haven't gone for a walk uphill where the nettles grow. This morning, however, my sweetheart and I managed to find some time. We collected a grocery bag

Re: [Biofuel] You were saying?

2006-04-18 Thread Michael Redler
Hakan,When I opened this message, I could smell a little sarcasm but, I'm at a loss as to why. There might be a little misunderstanding here since (I think) we are on the same side of the issue(s).My previous post was in the form of a question. Do you have an answer?MikeHakan Falk

Re: [Biofuel] my opinion of Northern Tool

2006-04-18 Thread Mike Weaver
In the US pawnshops are good source of good tools Keith Addison wrote: Hello Chip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith, et. al., I cannot not in good conscience recommend the vendor Northern Tool. They market products of poor quality, sell warranties quickly for the same products and when

Re: [Biofuel] CHEERS study

2006-04-18 Thread Mike Weaver
Aww...we're from the government. We're here to help. Just ask those nice folks who conducted the Tuskegee expirement... Michael Redler wrote: Bobby, You wrote: For one thing the study has been cancelled. I provided my source for people to read more on their own. There was no

Re: [Biofuel] CHEERS study

2006-04-18 Thread Mike Weaver
That's easy - then it will be in The Record [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When Senator Barbara Boxer from California spoke in Senate committee hearings about this, she said the parents were being paid to use the pesticides in their homes so the results could be studied in their children. I hope

Re: [Biofuel] Nettle Juice

2006-04-18 Thread mark manchester
Quickly replying! I love nettle tea, I grow nettles just so I can have fresh tea, and it's so good for you, iron and D and all that. Or try making Pho with it, if you ever tire of beef or shrimp pho. The chile sauce, fish socks (sauce of course, but it has a certain smelll), lime chunks,

Re: [Biofuel] Nettle Juice

2006-04-18 Thread robert luis rabello
mark manchester wrote: Quickly replying! I love nettle tea, I grow nettles just so I can have fresh tea, and it's so good for you, iron and D and all that. Or try making Pho with it, if you ever tire of beef or shrimp pho. The chile sauce, fish socks (sauce of course, but it has a certain

Re: [Biofuel] Nettle Juice

2006-04-18 Thread Mike Weaver
Fiddlehead ferns and cat tails... robert luis rabello wrote: mark manchester wrote: Quickly replying! I love nettle tea, I grow nettles just so I can have fresh tea, and it's so good for you, iron and D and all that. Or try making Pho with it, if you ever tire of beef or shrimp pho. The

Re: [Biofuel] Nettle Juice

2006-04-18 Thread Paul S Cantrell
Hi Robert! On 4/18/06, robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone! We've been intending to harvest wild stinging nettles for awhile now, but it's been rainy for the last week and we haven't gone for a walk uphill where the nettles grow. This morning, however, my

Re: [Biofuel] Nettle Juice

2006-04-18 Thread bob allen
Robert, nettles contain histamine-like compounds which cause serious irritation to tissues of higher animals. I wonder if your steep would be useful as an insect antifeedant on garden plants? BTW, I like milkweed buds similarly prepared- they're a little like brussel sprouts. robert luis

Re: [Biofuel] Nettle Juice

2006-04-18 Thread robert luis rabello
Mike Weaver wrote: Fiddlehead ferns and cat tails... Those grow around here too! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/

Re: [Biofuel] You were saying?

2006-04-18 Thread Hakan Falk
Mike, It was little sarcasm and playing on that the lack of advance of liberty, is currently called freedom. I have no answer of why it is such a lack of advance in liberty and so much talk of freedom. US missed an opportunity in the last election, but Bush cannot stay after his period, if

Re: [Biofuel] Nettle Juice

2006-04-18 Thread robert luis rabello
bob allen wrote: Robert, nettles contain histamine-like compounds which cause serious irritation to tissues of higher animals. I wonder if your steep would be useful as an insect antifeedant on garden plants? That's an interesting possibility. I wonder what a foliar spray of

Re: [Biofuel] You were saying?

2006-04-18 Thread robert luis rabello
Hakan Falk wrote: US missed an opportunity in the last election, but Bush cannot stay after his period, if he does not also try to pull AH's last trick. I doubt that this can be done in US, nothing is really left other than the hope that next election will be more kind to the world.

Re: [Biofuel] Nettle Juice

2006-04-18 Thread robert luis rabello
Paul S Cantrell wrote: It's full of nutrients and that would make any plant happy. quoted from: http://www.ciwmb.ca.gov/Organics/CompostMulch/CompostTea/OtherTeas.htm Herbal Tea These include plant-based extracts from plants such as stinging nettle, horse tail, comfrey, and clover. A

Re: [Biofuel] You were saying?

2006-04-18 Thread Mike Weaver
Not Neil robert luis rabello wrote: Hakan Falk wrote: US missed an opportunity in the last election, but Bush cannot stay after his period, if he does not also try to pull AH's last trick. I doubt that this can be done in US, nothing is really left other than the hope that next election

Re: [Biofuel] Nettle Juice

2006-04-18 Thread Hakan Falk
Bob, Young light green spring nettle has not developed any tissue irritating compounds and can be cooked and used instead of spinach. This without any special preparation. Taste better and have a higher content of useful vitamins and iron. In the past it was very common spring delicatessen in

Re: [Biofuel] You were saying?

2006-04-18 Thread Michael Redler
...agreed.MikeHakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike,It was "little" sarcasm and playing on that the lack of advance of liberty, is currently called "freedom". I have no answer of why it is such a lack of advance in liberty and so much talk of freedom.US missed an opportunity in the last

Re: [Biofuel] my opinion of Northern Tool

2006-04-18 Thread Chip Mefford
Mike Weaver wrote: In the US pawnshops are good source of good tools Having had a lot of tools stolen over the years, and having actually recoved a stolen rotary hammer from a pawn shop, (had to buy it, couldn't prove it was mine) I don't consider pawn shop tools very safe tool karma :)

Re: [Biofuel] Nettle Juice

2006-04-18 Thread mark manchester
Hi Robert! From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 12:16:53 -0700 To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Nettle Juice mark manchester wrote: Quickly replying! I love nettle tea, I grow nettles just so I

Re: [Biofuel] my opinion of Northern Tool

2006-04-18 Thread Mike Weaver
That was YOUR hammer? Oops... Chip Mefford wrote: Mike Weaver wrote: In the US pawnshops are good source of good tools Having had a lot of tools stolen over the years, and having actually recoved a stolen rotary hammer from a pawn shop, (had to buy it, couldn't prove it was mine) I

Re: [Biofuel] You were saying?

2006-04-18 Thread D. Mindock
We desperately need real election campaign reform here, otherwise we will continue to end up selecting the corporate endorsed proxy we hope will do the least amount of damage. It is a very sad state that we're in here. I wince anytime I see our War President on TV. He is the ultimate

Re: [Biofuel] Nettle Juice

2006-04-18 Thread MALCOLM MACLURE
The juice from rhubarb leaves, boiled up strained, is supposed to make a good natural insecticide too, just don't use the boiling pan for food again! Nettles contain methanoic acid (formic acid)- that's the irritant / insecticide. But rhubarb leaves contain mainly oxalic acid malic acid.

Re: [Biofuel] Nettle Juice

2006-04-18 Thread robert luis rabello
Hakan Falk wrote: Young light green spring nettle has not developed any tissue irritating compounds Well, my sweetheart got pricked by one of those young plants this morning! She wanted to go wading through a whole patch of the stuff and would have, had I not warned her against

Re: [Biofuel] A little (more) clarification

2006-04-18 Thread Bob Molloy
Hi y'all, I'd say Rudyard was laughing (he had a great capacity for humour) at the misnomer we have made of his White Man's Burden. Judging out of context is like shooting fish in a barrel. Kipling lived and wrote in a time of Empire, and what he was trying to do was set a few

Re: [Biofuel] Nettle Juice

2006-04-18 Thread robert luis rabello
MALCOLM MACLURE wrote: The juice from rhubarb leaves, boiled up strained, is supposed to make a good natural insecticide too, just don't use the boiling pan for food again! I have a pot that I've used for experimenting with newspaper that will probably work well. We have rhubarb in

Re: [Biofuel] Nettle Juice

2006-04-18 Thread robert luis rabello
mark manchester wrote: (Nettle stir fry) Brilliant. I just tried 'em in the garlic version, adding chiles and lemon zest. Yipers!. Thanks for this great tip! Your version sounds yummy, too! We'll have to try that one. Also, I'm deeply jealous of your garden, thanks for all the

Re: [Biofuel] Small oil press

2006-04-18 Thread Rexis Tree
Sound like he just wanna sell his product. And wishfully hope that we can help him to boost his sale.Have we even see JourneyToForever complaining their effort spent to collect, make and test biodiesel, effort to support a website and a mailling list? Complaining about no big institude, no public

Re: [Biofuel] my opinion of Northern Tool

2006-04-18 Thread Zeke Yewdall
That's why I try to engrave all of my tools... so I can prove their mine if they get stolen. Although I hadn't marked my new angle grinder this spring when it got swiped out of my truck parked in the street in front of my own house. I'm not used to actually locking any of my vehicals, but I also

Re: [Biofuel] Small oil press

2006-04-18 Thread Jason Katie
Sellout. complete and total sellout. this guy doesnt understand our goal does he? im not sure if he is just trying too hard or if he honestly doesnt realize the best way to spread knowledge is open source. investment or no, he has the design, he needs to source the original, then if he wants

Re: [Biofuel] A little (more) clarification

2006-04-18 Thread Michael Redler
Whenyou Google "white mans burden", you simply end up with alist of acts committed in the name of...which has grown since Rudyard.Today, the motives for hegemony are hidden and given names designed to confuse people (i.e. "humanitarian intervention").Those who are most confused, swallow

Re: [Biofuel] Small oil press

2006-04-18 Thread Appal Energy
Sellout? Someone who wants to take a worthwhile mechanism and make a fair return on his efforts is more probable. Not everyone is into or can afford to live their life by the open source doctrine. Usually doing so just means that the masses drain the majority of your energies, you have an

Re: [Biofuel] Xenophobic email for 'Merikans - tax question

2006-04-18 Thread Jason Katie
yknow, im reading this example certificate, and i dont see any stipulation for exceeding the ASTM standards. does this mean if the sample is better than ASTM, it is no good? (dumb question, but sarcasm demands it.) ;) - Original Message - From: Mike McGinness [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Biofuel] Small oil press

2006-04-18 Thread lres1
All things aside if he were to tier the costs from the poor to the AB and UN etc so that the poor were "subsidized" this alone would not be so bad. To this end am interested to find more details. Their are not that many easy to use hand presses that will take the husks/shells and thus a two

Re: [Biofuel] Small oil press

2006-04-18 Thread Jason Katie
i understand the need for a return, but for something that was designed specifically to help the people who need it most, and then to say it will cost you a months wages for one just doesnt make sense. if someone is going to do that, it would make more sense to me to produce and sell something