[Biofuel] satellite dish collectors

2006-06-26 Thread Jason Katie
does anyone know if a regular 2'x1.5' satellite dish (primestar i think) will work for a solar collector? i was thinking about using it to heat my BD via exchanger. (maybe borrow the steam pump with check valves idea...) i am going to try and layer it with tinfoil to begin with, then depending on

Re: [Biofuel] Class Warfare: The Minimum Wage Goes Down

2006-06-26 Thread Doug Younker
I just can't recall when, but the following was from an episode of the Religion and Ethics program aired on PBS during a past Congressional debate on the minimum wage. I recall the term used was just wage. Problem is that here in the USA such criteria is labeled communist, instead of

Re: [Biofuel] Statistics

2006-06-26 Thread Angela Perez Linde
Hi Richard! I`ve read that you knew some website about production and statistics of biodiesel in Europe. Could you help me and send me some of this website? Thanks very much! I`m sorry but Ì don`t know anything about this in USA. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Class Warfare: The Minimum Wage Goes Down

2006-06-26 Thread John Mullan
I believe that either economic model (communist or capitalist) is destined to collapse, sooner or later. One of the main factors being greed. Greed is what causes inflation. Companies are driven to make more profit. People need more income to purchase the higher priced items they need AND

Re: [Biofuel] satellite dish collectors

2006-06-26 Thread Ken Provost
On Jun 25, 2006, at 10:51 PM, Jason Katie wrote: does anyone know if a regular 2'x1.5' satellite dish (primestar i think) will work for a solar collector? Pretty small -- 300 watts of insolation at best. Figure a typical small stove burner puts out 1000 watts at least. Now one of those

Re: [Biofuel] Never seen wash problem

2006-06-26 Thread Joe Street
Hi Andrew; Is the water you used conditioned by a water softener? Joe Tonomár András wrote: Dear List members, I need your ideas of what went worng with my washing I make 45 l batches for almost a year now and I have only had minor emulsion problems in the first wash that I could

Re: [Biofuel] Statistics

2006-06-26 Thread Lugano Wilson
hi Angela, try this EU page you find lots of policy on REs and country reports on the developments http://ec.europa.eu/energy/res/legislation/electricity_en.htmLuganoAngela Perez Linde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Richard!I`ve read that you knew some website about production and

Re: [Biofuel] Worldwide oil consumption seen soaring

2006-06-26 Thread Mike Redler
The bottom line is that the world has to go Hydrogen. Every once in a while we find a post that challenges years of research and discussion and asks everyone to take a giant step back and re-examine ideas on a particular issue long after a consensus has been reached, as if we've missed

Re: [Biofuel] Help needed!

2006-06-26 Thread Thomas Kelly
Charles, I think an oil burner can tolerate impurities. The problem is that you may have to make some minor modifications. The problem I had, and, I think, you as well, was that we were burning inferior fuel w/o any modifications to the burner. I think that glycerides in the fuel (from

Re: [Biofuel] Never seen wash problem

2006-06-26 Thread Tonomár András
Hello Tom, Thanks for your ideas. I always do a wash test prior to the first wash. I usea 0,5l pet bottle and half - half BD, water. I shake the hell out of it. Since my early test batches, my fuel always passes the test with great result. the same was with this

Re: [Biofuel] diesel injector

2006-06-26 Thread lres1
From memory this is the same basics as the Daimler Puch system and has no injector pump. Please let me know if I am out here. This engine was known as the Styre and mostly run in boats (14+ years of operations in Australia) Macintyre engineering from memory were the Australian agents for

Re: [Biofuel] Worldwide oil consumption seen soaring

2006-06-26 Thread Mike Redler
Re: Nuclear Power One aspect of nuclear power which concerns me (in addition to the overwhelming number of reasons not to support it) is the less publicized situation it creates in terms of ROI. There is a huge investment put into construction and decommission then, an equally huge amount of

[Biofuel] Question about using WVO in Ethanol still

2006-06-26 Thread Dwight HoganCamp
I am planning to build a still to to fuel my gas powered vehicles. Some of the material I have been reading talks about salvaging the burner from an old gas water heater to use gas as a heat source for a still. Is it possible to salvage the burner from an oil hot water heater, and fuel it with

[Biofuel] Mailing in your vote

2006-06-26 Thread D. Mindock
http://eatthestate.org/10-20/MailingItDemocracy.htm You'd think that something as fundamental to democracy as honest elections would not be placed in jeopardy, seemingly intentionally,with no input from the masses. There is no voter in his right mind that'd be in favor of the systems that

Re: [Biofuel] satellite dish collectors

2006-06-26 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Yeah, I'd go for a larger one -- more energy collection. I think the larger ones are also tracking? wherease the current generation satellit dishes are fixed.On 6/26/06, Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 25, 2006, at 10:51 PM, Jason Katie wrote: does anyone know if a regular 2'x1.5'

Re: [Biofuel] satellite dish collectors

2006-06-26 Thread lres1
It may be of interest to do a search on low heat transfer generators. Also Solar ponds. This is where a very heavy brine is in the bottom layers of a square sided pond and very fresh water is on top, that is about a meter per layer. Under the brine layer is laid black alkathine pipes and black

[Biofuel] An Inconvenient Truth

2006-06-26 Thread Joe Street
I saw the movie on Friday evening. Lots of great factoids for those who are not in the know about global warming. The presentation is such that I don't see how anyone could not be persuaded. I thought that was very encouraging. Al Gore has so much of an opportunity to reach a large

Re: [Biofuel] Biofuel International seminar In BRASIL :Food Vs Fuel.

2006-06-26 Thread Juan Boveda
Hello Pannirselvam. I went to that page using the link you gave us. It has links to some acrobat files after I downloaded I discovered they were the programs for the conference. Some of them I find interesting. Unluckily, I could not find the works published there. Do you know if there will be

Re: [Biofuel] satellite dish collectors

2006-06-26 Thread Dwight HoganCamp
Zeke Yewdall wrote: Yeah, I'd go for a larger one -- more energy collection. I think the larger ones are also tracking? wherease the current generation satellit dishes are fixed. Yeah, but they tracked the satellite, not the sun. Dwight ___

Re: [Biofuel] satellite dish collectors

2006-06-26 Thread Zeke Yewdall
a little reprogramming of the tracking software should fix that, right?On 6/26/06, Dwight HoganCamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Zeke Yewdall wrote: Yeah, I'd go for a larger one -- more energy collection.I think the larger ones are also tracking?wherease the current generation satellit dishes are

Re: [Biofuel] An Inconvenient Truth

2006-06-26 Thread Paul S Cantrell
Joe, I saw it yesterday and I concur completely...Everyone go see it and take 3 people with you! I encourage everyone to go see it, if nothing else to make me (us) seem less nutty! lol been talkin' about this since high school... On 6/26/06, Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw the movie

Re: [Biofuel] satellite dish collectors

2006-06-26 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Depends on the tracking unit. Most were setup and knew about where the sat should be located then used a AGC loop to to fine tracking. A easy sun tracker would do about the same using some photo diodes or small solar cells at 4 points on the dish wired to just balance the readings from opposing

Re: [Biofuel] satellite dish collectors

2006-06-26 Thread Zeke Yewdall
I'm not sure exactly how the satelite dishes are set up mechanically. Solar tracking is easiest if you have a tilted NS axis, around which it can rotate. That way the tilt of the NS axis can be adjusted daily, but during the day, you only have to rotate about that axis from east to west, rather

Re: [Biofuel] satellite dish collectors

2006-06-26 Thread doug swanson
I got the tracking sensor for my 10' dish from Duane Johnson, his site is at http://www.redrok.com/main.htm You can read how to make your own, or do the lazy thing and just buy the ready-made module. It would have cost me as much to buy the parts as the ready made one he sells. Then it's just

[Biofuel] Biodiesel from Algae

2006-06-26 Thread balajit
Hello Doug, - Original Message - From: doug swanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 12:33 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Worldwide oil consumption seen soaring When we first started hearing about Hydrogen, there had been relatively little

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel from Algae

2006-06-26 Thread Mike Weaver
Huh, that's funny, I have been very successful making algae from biodiesel, especially in the Summer. -Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Doug, - Original Message - From: doug swanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 12:33 AM Subject:

[Biofuel] 6kW solar tracker - was satellite dish collectors

2006-06-26 Thread Kirk McLoren
http://www.ida.net/users/tetonsl/solar/solarhom.htm Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Worldwide oil consumption seen soaring

2006-06-26 Thread Kirk McLoren
WHy would you advocate hydrogen with all its losses. Supercaps are the perfect battery for transportation. More efficient than lead acid too (and no lead) - as for hydrogen who needs 25% system efficiency? KirkMike Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "The bottom line is that the world has to go

Re: [Biofuel] satellite dish collectors

2006-06-26 Thread Jason Katie
tracking is easy, even on 2 axes, but i was curious to know if it would be effective for an exchange heater. i have a dish, but was worried it wouldnt be of any use to me. JasonICQ#: 154998177MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (most likely to get me) - Original Message - From: Zeke

Re: [Biofuel] Worldwide oil consumption seen soaring

2006-06-26 Thread robert and benita rabello
Kirk McLoren wrote: WHy would you advocate hydrogen with all its losses. Supercaps are the perfect battery for transportation. More efficient than lead acid too (and no lead) - as for hydrogen who needs 25% system efficiency? Only people building nuclear power plants who think they've

Re: [Biofuel] Castor oil

2006-06-26 Thread Jason Katie
if im reading this right, castor shells can be distilled and the ethanol be introduced into the BD to thin it? the heat from distilling the mash should damage the ricin, and even if it cant be composted immediately, it could be digested for methane energy output and the sludge could/should be

Re: [Biofuel] castorbeans

2006-06-26 Thread Jason Katie
i wanted to try this also, i have a mostly scrap lawnmower engine that is good for experiments of this nature. JasonICQ#: 154998177MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (most likely to get me) - Original Message - From: lres1 To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, June

Re: [Biofuel] Never seen wash problem

2006-06-26 Thread Tonomár András
Joe, the water is from the household water heater and is not conditioned. It sounds stupid but my first idea was that the water was too hot than I added 0,1l vinegar to break the emulsion. Is this a reason for the brown powder? Andrew - Original Message - From: Joe Street [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] The Death of US Engineering

2006-06-26 Thread Will Kelleher
Maybe now isn't that best time to get an electrical engineering degree :-/Will KOn 6/23/06, D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Death of US EngineeringBy Paul Craig RobertsThe May payroll jobs report released June 2 by the Bureau of LaborStatistics confirms the jobs pattern for

Re: [Biofuel] Roger Sanders' Waste Oil Heater

2006-06-26 Thread Jason Katie
put a methane gas ring under the flashpan for a preheater/pilot light with one of those static electric pushbutton grill starters maybe? hit the button to preheat with methane, then start the oil drip? Jason ICQ#: 154998177 MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (most likely to get me) - Original Message

Re: [Biofuel] The Death of US Engineering

2006-06-26 Thread Mike Redler
Engineers have been saying this for years. I'm the chair of a local ASME chapter so, I hear it a lot. In fact I'm representative of the lost jobs mentioned in the article, having lost my last engineering job in September. I forwarded the article to my ASME chapter and received the following

[Biofuel] Elsbett SVO Workshop

2006-06-26 Thread Rachel Burton
Anyone in the US, interested in an SVO workshop? Central Carolina Community College, and Piedmont Biofuels are pleased to announce they will co-host their third Elsbett Straight Vegetable Oil Conversion Workshop. The dates have been set for July 14th-16th 2006 from 9 a.m. to 5 P.M. each

Re: [Biofuel] castorbeans

2006-06-26 Thread Zeke Yewdall
I tried using biodiesel (probably about 25% biodiesel/75% gasoline) in a lawnmower. Smokey startup, and stalled right away. I think the primitive lawnmower carb couldn't vaporize the biodiesel effectively -- relying on the vaccuum from the engine to suck the fuel out of the tank into the carb

Re: [Biofuel] alledged cosmic energy electricity generator

2006-06-26 Thread Jason Katie
this is strange. if there is a force input, even though it is pulsed it is still not free. it may be insanely efficient, but so were the old kerosene popper motors that used ungainly huge flywheels to produce steady power from pulses. this is not a new technique by any means. Jason ICQ#:

Re: [Biofuel] Worldwide oil consumption seen soaring

2006-06-26 Thread Mike Redler
I didn't. Kirk McLoren wrote: WHy would you advocate hydrogen with all its losses. Supercaps are the perfect battery for transportation. More efficient than lead acid too (and no lead) - as for hydrogen who needs 25% system efficiency? Kirk Mike Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] car advertisement from Great Britain

2006-06-26 Thread Alon
What's that Kirk ? Sending your homemade videos ? ;-) ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

Re: [Biofuel] water-fuel system

2006-06-26 Thread Will Kelleher
Hello,I always thought it would be really cool to power an internal combustion engine with hydrogen derived from electrolysis powered by the engine itself, but doesn't it take more energy to split the hydrogen/oxygen that the hydrogen is able to produce when combusted? I guess that's why this

Re: [Biofuel] Class Warfare: The Minimum Wage Goes Down

2006-06-26 Thread Michael Redler
Hi John,I don't mean to be a pain in the ass but, your focus is on company profits, re-issue of currency, and monetary greed- not a common denominatorin an explanation on why both capitalist and communist societies would fail.At least for now, it's not an explanation that makes sense to

Re: [Biofuel] castorbeans

2006-06-26 Thread Jason Katie
sorry, bad explanation again. i meant as a lubricant not a fuel, i believe it was kieth who pointed me at information about castor oil. it breaks down under heat and pressureand the lubricative properties are enhanced after a period of use. the problem is if it breaks down too far, it turns

Re: [Biofuel] Class Warfare: The Minimum Wage Goes Down

2006-06-26 Thread Michael Redler
"...do we really think if companies are forced to pay their workers more that they'll just suck up the extra cost and not raise prices?"Sure...when they are employee owned.The salaries of CEO's are hundreds of times more than their employees. That sucking sound youmighthave heardis the

Re: [Biofuel] water-fuel system

2006-06-26 Thread robert and benita rabello
Will Kelleher wrote: Hello, I always thought it would be really cool to power an internal combustion engine with hydrogen derived from electrolysis powered by the engine itself, but doesn't it take more energy to split the hydrogen/oxygen that the hydrogen is able to produce when

Re: [Biofuel] Class Warfare: The Minimum Wage Goes Down

2006-06-26 Thread John Mullan
No problems Michael. It's just the overly simplistic way I see it. It may very well be totally inaccurate and most certainly an over-simplification. And you make a very good regarding participation. Cheers, John Michael Redler wrote: Hi John, I don't mean to be a pain in the ass but,

Re: [Biofuel] Worldwide oil consumption seen soaring

2006-06-26 Thread Will Kelleher
Everyone,The only reasonable solution to the energy crisis is solar! It's free and basically infinite. All we have to do is develop some better solar cells and batteries (or those new capacitors that everyone is talking about) to power our electric engines! Will KOn 6/26/06, Mike Redler [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for storing Biodiesel

2006-06-26 Thread Will Kelleher
Tom,I know that some drum manufacturors sell 55 gallon steel drums with an epoxy lining. This could be the case with your methanol drum. I don't think the biodiesel will dissolve the epoxy, but I don't know for sure. Hope that helps. Will KelleherOn 6/18/06, Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] An Inconvenient Truth

2006-06-26 Thread Sarath G
I saw the movie this weekend and I was very impressed by the story and facts. Not that this is a new topic to any of the members on this list, but the portrayal of clear and present dangers of looming climate change are well illustrated and makes an extra effort to bring this issue to public

Re: [Biofuel] Worldwide oil consumption seen soaring

2006-06-26 Thread Jason Katie
acually the "supercap battery" that fits a 9V package is all about space efficiency, if you wanted to, you could build a multifarad capacitor out of tinfoil andplastic wrapin a 5 gallon bucket for a similar effect with lower cost, justWAAAY too big for a 9V package, and heavy-heavy. (i

Re: [Biofuel] The Death of US Engineering

2006-06-26 Thread Michael Redler
Will,I earned my B.S. in mechanical engineering technology in 1992 and worked as a mechanical design engineer for seven years. Frustrated by the lack of legitimate and rewarding work, I earned a BSEE in 2000 with the idea that you must apply theory to something which has no moving parts.

Re: [Biofuel] Worldwide oil consumption seen soaring

2006-06-26 Thread Michael Redler
I'm with you on that one Will. And if regenerative braking becomes commonplace in electric vehicles, think of the energy savings when the bulk of your off-highway miles comes from wind resistance and not acceleration.Imagine the energy recycled from a 2000lb car accelerating from zero to

Re: [Biofuel] Worldwide oil consumption seen soaring

2006-06-26 Thread Kurt Nolte
Jason Katie wrote: acually the supercap battery that fits a 9V package is all about space efficiency, if you wanted to, you could build a multifarad capacitor out of tinfoil and plastic wrap in a 5 gallon bucket for a similar effect with lower cost, just WAAAY too big for a 9V package,

Re: [Biofuel] The Death of US Engineering

2006-06-26 Thread Zeke Yewdall
I agree. My engineering degree may not get me a job (well, it did, but it was lousy pay, and in a cube), but it (along with alot of hands on experience) will aid immensly when I need to deal with the crazy world we are entering when services such as electricity, food, heat, water, etc, are not

Re: [Biofuel] The Death of US Engineering

2006-06-26 Thread Jason Katie
i believe any engineering degree would be needed for personal uses long before the "system" collapses. how else would the garage tinker, or the backyard designer survive the idiocy bestowed upon the people of america by decades of complacency and sheeple-ism? JasonICQ#: 154998177MSN: [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Worldwide oil consumption seen soaring

2006-06-26 Thread Jason Katie
its pretty simple theory, take two dielectric layers (i.e. extremely thin plastic) and layer them between two foil layers like so- --- being plasticwrap/thin wax paper/other being foil -- ///

Re: [Biofuel] Worldwide oil consumption seen soaring

2006-06-26 Thread Kurt Nolte
Jason Katie wrote: its pretty simple theory, take two dielectric layers (i.e. extremely thin plastic) and layer them between two foil layers like so- --- being plasticwrap/thin wax paper/other being foil --

Re: [Biofuel] Tanks for storing Biodiesel

2006-06-26 Thread lres1
Used to be the case for long term storage of AVGAS that the drums had to be lined. Once the lining was punctured the drums were not useable for AVGAS storage. Was easy to damage the lining by inserting the wrong pump and destroying/damaging the lining at the bottom of the drum. Re-fueling