Re: [Biofuel] Chlorine gas..was Separating Glycerine/FFA

2005-10-31 Thread des
Ammonia and bleach when combined and heated releases phosgene, once used as a warfare chemical. doug swanson Alt.EnergyNetwork wrote: Hello, chlorine gas can be very dangerous and deadly if inhaled in sufficient quantities. You may have made some accidentally by mixing ammonia with bleach

Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: Vegetable oil for machining coolant

2005-10-20 Thread des
Try lower case characters in the link, some browsers are more easily confused than others... ;) doug swanson malcolm maclure wrote: Keith, That link doesn't seem to work, Google recognises it but it won't load for me, shame - I'd be interested to see it. Best regards Malcolm

Re: [Biofuel] Copper tubing and methanol

2005-10-16 Thread des
So I guess I ought to rethink my design for a still to reclaim my methanol from the glycerine byproduct. I've just filled a small drum, and was thinking of getting into separating my methanol back. Thought I had everything almost in place. Back to START... doug swanson Manick Harris

Re: [Biofuel] Resource windfall!

2005-10-15 Thread des
I've gotten a couple of submersible pump ends (heads?) from a well drilling outfit that regularly replaces pumps that die after getting hit by lightning. Only the motor dies, and they had a pile for me to hunt through. Didn't notice anything for above ground, since that wasn't what I was

Re: [Biofuel] Keith I think you have a virus.....

2005-10-14 Thread des
A bit of research on this particular virus indicates that it will spoof the sender's address, and the virus is more likely on a system that has Keith's address in its address book. doug swanson Joe Street wrote: Hi Keith; I got the following warning form symantec about a message I

Re: [Biofuel] Keith I think you have a virus.....

2005-10-14 Thread des
Looks like the bug's about to bite you! (as in opening doors to another world...!) I've enjoyed this post, and can feel your excitement. My 3rd full size (25 gallon) batch is washing quietly at this moment... Another possible option of buying methanol at retail, but still at a lower cost, If

Re: [Biofuel] Grey water heat recovery and low tech Solar collectors????

2005-10-13 Thread des
In my household of one, recovering the heat in my grey water is as simple as leaving the plug in until the water has reached room temperature before draining sinks or tub/shower. In a larger family size situation, I can see how spacing out showers in the morning before getting the entire

Re: [Biofuel] 55 Gallon Drum Seal

2005-10-08 Thread des
Similar problem here, though I've processed a couple of batches without the seal. The barrels I got had foodstuffs in them, and the seal was a sort of foam that doesn't hold up in methanol fumes. I'm going to try making a continuous rope of the correct circumference (continuous rope =

Re: [Biofuel] Peugeot 505 four cylinder turbo charged diesel vehicle!?

2005-10-07 Thread des
Congratulations on the new car! From my experience, if I were in your shoes, and looking at a foggy day, I'd be thinking twice about mixing my methoxide today, the NaOH will turn to liquid before you can blink, drawing water out of the air. (That might clear out the fog) Instead, I guess

Re: [Biofuel] Advice on finding a milk pastuerizer?

2005-10-03 Thread des
Indeed... I'd be a lactovegetarian, if I could find unpasteurized milk. It seems odd that Americans, being one of the top consumers of milk on the planet also have the highest occurence of osteoporosis. My suspicion, (I have no scientific proof) is that the pasteurization process makes the

Re: [Biofuel] Red Devil Lye - Roebic-Heet

2005-10-03 Thread des
I spent an hour trying to beat the price of methanol that I bought last time, from a race car enthusiast, who sold it to me for $3.50 / gallon. I called the local fuel / oil distributor, who has quite a monopoly in this small town, and his prices reflect that fact. Their current pricing is

Re: [Biofuel] Red Devil Lye

2005-10-02 Thread des
OK, I'm curious... I've not bought methanol at a dollar store before, what quantity to you get for .69? doug swanson Mike Weaver wrote: Depending on how much you want to make you can buy dry gas (methanol) - I get it for .69 at a dollar store and Red Devil Lye at the hardware store.

Re: [Biofuel] There's no proof of global warming

2005-09-22 Thread des
I'm still trying to get to the sites listed in this post. is everyone else able to get to them? Just trying to go to http://images.jsc.nasa.gov/ times out. doug swanson Jerry Eyers wrote: What did the photos show? In the late 1960's, it was a beautiful blue sphere, clear atmoshpere,

Re: [Biofuel] Ch 7 10PM News out of Boise

2005-09-21 Thread des
And the magnetized exhaust keeps on sticking to the inside of your muffler... Arrrgh... Mike Weaver wrote: I have a device that costs 39.99 and will give you 400MPG! You hook it around your fuel line and it magnetizes the fuel as it goes by... Order Now!! Cash Only. Jeromie Reeves

Re: [Biofuel] Flat Panel Solar Hot Water Collector

2005-09-20 Thread des
A scientific approach to this would be to eliminate the variables that can be eliminated, and keep records of those that can't be eliminated. For example, measuring ambient temperatures and comparing those to the temperatures in the collector will let you know to some degree what your

Re: [Biofuel] Solar technique could lead to cleaner, cheaper hydrogen

2005-09-19 Thread des
I recall that chemistry experiment, (also works with potassium), both metals were kept under oil to prevent oxidation. They're very unstable metals, and not found on earth in their pure forms. Hence the question becomes: How much energy does it take to purify the metal, and once this is

Re: [Biofuel] Selling Biodiesel

2005-09-18 Thread des
The biggest determining factor in this, I suppose, is your location. US laws are going to be different from Mexico's, are different from Canada's... Your email address indicates you might be located in the US, but that's not conclusive either. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do I need any special

Re: [Biofuel] Can this man save the world? (Hydrogen injection)

2005-09-18 Thread des
So you're adding Hydrogen and Oxygen to the intake, ensuring cleaner burn... Guess I can see that, but if the engine is still burning gasoline or diesel, the carbon from these molecules has to go somewhere, but the statement: greatly increasing efficiency and reducing fuel consumption by 10

Re: [Biofuel] Filtering?

2005-09-18 Thread des
I tried pumping the fuel through an inline fuel filter, (mine's a clear plastic case, so I can see the fuel flow, and watch the filter catch stuff...) but the salesman at the auto parts store was unable to give me the micron number that this filter will screen. However, another system he

Re: [Biofuel] Morality test for you all

2005-09-17 Thread des
We did? Looks like my vote got ignored yet again. I'd choose the black and white, color film leaves nothing for the imagination... doug Fritz Friesinger wrote: Hey Malcolm, we have got this one alredy a while ago and we came to the consensus that we would save the Bastard if he would

[Biofuel] Wood cellulose breakdown, termites, and methane

2005-09-16 Thread des
from the site: http://www.uwsp.edu/geo/faculty/ritter/geog101/textbook/atmosphere/atmospheric_composition_p2.html Methane Methane (CH4) is a greenhouse gas contributing about 18% to global warming and has been on the rise over the last several decades. Methane is a product of the

Re: [Biofuel] Wood cellulose breakdown, termites, and methane

2005-09-16 Thread des
get from a given sized pile of wood filled with termites? On 9/16/05, Juan Boveda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Des. First, there is a need to separate the oxigen from the gases of the atmosphere before bottling their exhaust or it is a route for trouble with sparks. Regards. Juan

Re: [Biofuel] wind and current power

2005-09-14 Thread des
the URL is www.otherpower.com ashok vora wrote: Dear All, I suggest to visit website www.oterpowers.com for getting good basic knowledge of wind power and its application. Thanks A.P.VORA --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 12, 2005, at 11:07 AM, Leon

Re: [Biofuel] Giving up

2005-09-12 Thread des
Brent S wrote: well, I have found a batch of oil that won't sepparate. I have heated it to 220f to make sure there isn't any water in it. It has been at 220f for an hour or so with no boiling. I have titrated it several times with a result of 5. I have made test batches at 5, 7, 8, 9 and 10

Re: [Biofuel] Thanks to Keith, Mike is a Cretan

2005-09-08 Thread des
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am from Crete also. I go for a walk to knossos almost everyday, nice to hear about this... Stelios Terzakis The real Cretan... So I looked it up in the dictionary, and there _are_ 2 spellings for this. With completely different meanings and origins. I thought

Re: [Biofuel] MENTOR NEEDED IN ALABAMA

2005-09-07 Thread des
virgil sentel wrote: I'm a newbie here and I live in Ozark, Al. (near Dothan). I'm getting ready to make a test batc soon was wondering if there was anyone living in the L.A. (lower Alabama) area who could mentor (guide) me through this when I start to make the processors. Also I was told today

Re: [Biofuel] Is this fraud?

2005-09-07 Thread des
Busyditch wrote: I dont think this guy realizes how fraudulent his ad is. This is NOT biodiesel, just WVO and dino mixed. http://cgi.ebay.com/Bio-Diesel-Biodiesel-Kit-Fuel-for-15-cents-a-gallon_W0QQitemZ5997737337QQcategoryZ3240QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem For the asking price, he could include the

Re: [Biofuel] Deacidification

2005-09-07 Thread des
Ian Theresa Sims wrote: Hi Folks I have tried the deacidification method with good results in the test batch. However when I heat the oil to process it foams agressivly. I assume this is the water/lye reacting? It leaves a thick layer of fat/soap? which i skim off leaving good oil,

Re: [Biofuel] B100 and jet fuel

2005-09-04 Thread des
Thanks for the info. I've read it, downloaded the study reports, read them, and passed them and your email on to the individual that was looking for this information. Good solid data. I think that with modification of the biodiesel transesterification process the TAN might be reduced, and

[Biofuel] B100 and jet fuel

2005-09-01 Thread des
A neighbor who recently retired from the airline industry has been asking me lately if there's a biofuel that can be substituted for jet fuel, and although I didn't know at the time, I've done some research since, and see that jet fuel is a variant of diesel. Any one out there know what kind

Re: [Biofuel] Alternative batteries

2005-08-31 Thread des
Brian Rodgers wrote: A friend who coincidentally thinks I am a nut job, said he made a system back in the 'old days' in which a small water turbine powered by a small stream pumped water into a storage tank as well as generate electricity. Somehow this system was augmented with a small wind

Re: [Biofuel] Solar panals or wind

2005-08-30 Thread des
Garth Kim Travis wrote: Greetings, I am a fan of using solar collectors to fire a stirling engine that can also be fired with methane. Small solar panels for stuff that is used primarily in the daytime, wind power that can be home repaired. And the generator that is fire by the

[Biofuel] Religion, Politics Biofuels, and Thanks!

2005-08-27 Thread des
There's been a lot of discussion on this list regarding religions and politics lately; as well as the diversity in the biofuels subjects. (I signed up back when I did, not knowing about other fuels, just looking for more info on biodiesel...) And the expanse of knowledge displayed regarding

Re: [Biofuel] Robertson / Chavez story on CNN

2005-08-24 Thread des
Sir Woody Hackswell wrote: This is just sad. I can't believe he has the nerve to call himself a Christian. =shudder= Jesus would never advocate the assasination of anyone. He'd be more likely to have him over for dinner and tell parables. :) He's just as crazy as Al Qaida. =sigh= But hey...

[Biofuel] Robertson / Chavez story on CNN

2005-08-23 Thread des
http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/23/robertson.chavez/ -- All generalizations are false. Including this one. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This email is constructed entirely with OpenSource Software. No Microsoft databits have been incorporated herein. All

Re: [Biofuel] Photo in the News: Gas Thief Escapes on Tricycle

2005-08-23 Thread des
Michael Redler wrote: * Photo in the News: Gas Thief Escapes on Tricycle * *August 16, 2005*—Speeding from the scene of the crime, a Chinese boy tows a floating plastic bag of stolen natural gas last week. Flouting a government ban, farmers around the central Chinese town of Pucheng

Re: [Biofuel] (Biofuel) First real post, help w/ large scale production

2005-08-20 Thread des
Rumen Slavov wrote: Dear Friends, As an electrician I wold propose to use a HV transformer for neon lighting /you can see a lot of it over allmost any restorant entrance/ and a simple HV diodes to make HV into DC. The transformer supply 3000 to 5000 volts.To avoid

Re: [Biofuel] First real post, help w/ large scale production

2005-08-18 Thread des
Joe Street wrote: Ahh ok that makes sense. I thought it must be some exotic type of caustic used in this radical new process! I still think it would be less confusing to just say 'methanol' though ; I am thinking about how I could do a quick test to see what happens. I am guessing that the

[Biofuel] Sodium Methoxide MSDS (Sodium methylate)

2005-08-17 Thread des
http://www.jtbaker.com/msds/englishhtml/m2028.htm This is for Dry Sodium Methoxide. *Chemical Formula:* CH3NaO -- All generalizations are false. Including this one. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * This email is constructed entirely with OpenSource

Re: [Biofuel] Turkeys

2005-08-09 Thread des
Tom Irwin wrote: Hi Kim, Thanks for the info, I suppose there are not any bright breeds that will actually feed themselves. I´ve never had Muscovy ducks. Someone once told me they taste a little like veal. Any truth to this? Tom Irwin Hi! There are wild turkeys in my locale that are

[Biofuel] Distillation information

2005-08-09 Thread des
While researching online re: methanol recovery, and the current thread on ethanol, I found what seems to be a great site on everything one would want to know about the distillation process. It's at: http://lorien.ncl.ac.uk/ming/distil/distil0.htm I've only gotten part of the way through all

Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/Country

2005-08-01 Thread des
Thank you! That was the first message in this thread I found worth saving for future reference. Too much out there, (government, business and religion) has propagated the illusion of separation, competition and isolation... We could easily forget that we do all come from the same Source,

Re: [Biofuel] Phenolphthalein solution

2005-08-01 Thread des
Probst, Peter wrote: Greetings, I'm collecting the various tools to perform a titration of WVO and see there are several types of phenolphthalein solutions available. Is there a certain solution that works better than others? Should I get the most economical? Thanks in advance for your help,

Re: [Biofuel] The Tragic Abuse of Corn

2005-07-25 Thread des
Hakan Falk wrote: And all of it because a bad language interpretation at the end of WWII. When the Americans, after winning, asked the Germans what they most needed to avoid starvation, they answered Korn (Rye), which the Americans interpret to Corn (Maise) and started to send loads of it.

Re: [Biofuel] The Tragic Abuse of Corn

2005-07-25 Thread des
Phillip Wolfe wrote: Keith - I'm still an avid reader of biofuel.com. I planted corn in my backyard garden this year to better appreciate corn and mother corn. Is it GMO'd corn seed. Who knows. But I now understand that if my family existed on homegrown ag and fruit products we could stay

Re: [Biofuel] Cornell on ethanol, biodiesel, hydrogen energy efficiencies

2005-07-24 Thread des
In the article, Pimentel is shown pumping gas, most likely plain old regular unleaded gas... And it crossed my mind, How much energy was used to provide a gallon of plain old regular unleaded gas, considering all the energy consumed, not only in drilling and pumping crude, cleaning,

Re: [Biofuel] Freedom from oil?

2005-06-29 Thread des
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Happy day List! I just received that link www.freedomfromoil.com/ http://www.freedomfromoil.com/ and I support their effort. Pass it on! Declare your independance from oil! Felix I've looked around their site, and don't see a proposal on how this is to be

Re: [Biofuel] maximum MPG

2005-06-29 Thread des
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug, there are about 20,000 BTUs in a pound of gasoline, about 6 pounds to the U.S. gallon. A high school physics text and Marks' Handbook for Engineers (in the reference section of most larger libraries) will contain a lot of the information you might need. A text on

[Biofuel] maximum MPG

2005-06-28 Thread des
I've read of some really fantastic claims of MPG in vehicles that are either proposed or promised, and my curiosity has been piqued. The question I have in mind that is bothering me is this: Let's say for a minute that we're developing a vehicle that doesn't use any fuel when it's not

Re: [Biofuel] Corolla's Fuel Pump

2005-06-22 Thread des
Keith Addison wrote: Hello Filipe I doubt it very much. Okay, no, it's not true. By 1993 Japanese fuel pumps did not contain any rubber, especially not those exported to Europe - compatability issues with the European ULSD diesel fuel had already ensured that. Our Toyota diesel

[Biofuel] Datsun pump rebuild options

2005-06-22 Thread des
Thanks for all the replies! I guess, being the cautious type that I am, I will try upping the percentage of Bio to Dino ratio, and keep the spare filter and tools required to access it handy. As far as what might happen if the pump goes out, guess I'll coast to a stop and ride the thumb

Re: [Biofuel] Re: solar tracking devices

2005-06-18 Thread des
Michael Redler wrote: OK folks. For what its worth, here is another crack at it. 1 square meter panel = 1000W * .10 (split the difference between 8 and 12) = 100W 100W * $5.00/W = $500.00 per panel 100W * .30 = energy gained using tracker, based on previous reference = 30W Equivalent

Re: [Biofuel] Wash Water to Biodiesel Ratio?

2005-06-06 Thread des
Ken Provost wrote: A question for all you well-washed biodiesel homebrewers... Regardless of your particular washing methods, when all is said and done, how much total fresh water have you used for washing, per liter of fully washed biodiesel? FWIW, my ratio is about 1.3 water:biodiesel. Is

Re: [Biofuel] Bug Power

2005-06-06 Thread des
robert luis rabello wrote: Keith Addison wrote: snip There was an ammonia based refrigeration unit powered by an off axis solar tracker in Home Power magazine many years ago. It produced pressure in excess of 100 psi (I think. . . Oh, where ARE those brain cells???) during its

Re: [Biofuel] ocean current slows

2005-05-12 Thread des
This may have something to do with the article I saw on the discovery channel recently about the global change of the earths magnetic field north to south and vise versa. it seems that this has been going on for well since the beginning of time as we know it. I'd agree with that, we've been

[Biofuel] methanol recovery

2005-05-09 Thread des
test batches, (1 litre), and lurking on this fine list, absorbing information, and reading a lot on the biodiesel pages. I guess I've got a decent grip on the process and the chemistry involved, but I've had a question that I've not found the answer to yet. If I'm using 20% by volume of