Hello Duncan
Hi Mike,
On the whole I agree with Mr Monbiot. About 160 years ago the Irish potato
famine was in part caused by the English being able to pay more for wheat than
the Irish were able to pay for potato hence wheat was planted. The famine
was, in effect, caused by a wealth gap. In
Hi Mike,
On the whole I agree with Mr Monbiot. About 160 years ago the Irish potato
famine was in part caused by the English being able to pay more for wheat than
the Irish were able to pay for potato hence wheat was planted. The famine
was, in effect, caused by a wealth gap. In the last
I agree that biodiesel is not in of itself a good technology.
However, it has the potential to be good. I am not sure that
petroleum has the potential to be good -- even without the
exploitation, greed, subjegation, etc, that the first world's demand
for oil causes (and which could easily be
28, 2006 5:42 AM
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] What?s up with George Monbiot?!
Well, the bright lad obviously hadn't or hasn't heard of algae derived
biofuels.
His arguments are dinosaurs and no doubt he's aware of it. Enjoying the
attention, but also aware of his flaws
You really should just ignore George Mombiot. He's just a silly little
man full of his own importance and always has been.
He likes to provide an opinion on everything from the environment,
biofuels, class structure, etc and I am yet to find anyone that agrees
with his opinions.
What
Thanks Julian,You wrote: "What surprises me is that there are Editors out there willing to publish his drivel."Yes. I'm surprised too. Iwas surprised to see that kind of op-ed appearing inThe Guardian. Then, I found it amazing to see him appearing over and over again in sources that I've
Re Big Ag and biofuels, I have this figure that one ton of nitrogen
fertiliser takes 10 tons of crude oil to manufacture. Can anyone
confirm that?
Thanks!
Keith
Hello Julian, Mike and all
You really should just ignore George Mombiot. He's just a silly little
man full of his own importance
Hello Julian, Mike and all
You really should just ignore George Mombiot. He's just a silly little
man full of his own importance and always has been.
Well, not really.
He likes to provide an opinion on everything from the environment,
biofuels, class structure, etc and I am yet to find anyone
energy being fungible, how about this:
The entire fertilizer industry uses less than 2% of world energy
consumption, and this is overwhelmingly concentrated in the production
of ammonia. The ammonia industry used about 5% of natural gas
consumption in the mid-1990s.
Thanks Keith.You wrote: "We've had these stories before from him, since end-2004..."That seems to coincide with what I've been finding.MikeKeith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello Julian, Mike and allYou really should just ignore George Mombiot. He's just a silly littleman full
Well so long as some people look at biofuels with the mindset of making
money and perhaps a lot of money then that prospect is where we are
inevitably headed. Obviously some land is needed for growing oil seed
crops but the point is that a paradigm shift is in order for this
world. Less is
I just received a new piece from I-SIS, The Institute of Science in
Society, by the director, Dr. Mae-Wan Ho, ISIS Press Release
28/02/06, titled Biofuels for Oil Addicts - Cure Worse than The
Addiction, saying much the same thing as Monbiot et al.
Bioethanol and biodiesel from energy crops
I find it incredible that people with the knowledge and experience to know otherwise, don't simplylook atthe philosophy behind hybrid vehicles, which are provingeconomical in transportation (despite limited innovation in their development) and see themas scalable and a microcosm offuture,
I've never even heard of monbiot but I'm never surprised when Editors
champion a so-called 'liberal' or 'environmentalist' who turns out to be
an apologist for status quo and the media's sponsors. That's 'balance'
these days...
kf
On Tue, 28 Feb 2006, Julian Voelcker wrote:
You really should
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Well, the bright lad obviously hadn't or hasn't heard
Whats up with George Monbiot?!He calls himself an environmentalist? Put lightly, this guy's a little annoying.In December, 2004 George Monbiot wrote an article titled Feeding Cars, Not People.http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2004/11/23/feeding-cars-not-people/In December, 2006
Mike,Have you shared your thoughts withe Guardian? Or, on Mr. Monbiot's website?Apparently, showing him the error of his ways doesn't stop him but emboldens him:
The last time I drew
attention to the hazards of making diesel fuel from vegetable oils, I
received as much abuse as I have ever been
Hi Paul,You wrote: "Have you shared your thoughts withe Guardian?"No. Actually, I haven't given it much thought. This was meant for our forum. If I did, I'd have to clean it up a bit. I cranked this out this morning and noticed that I have December 2006 instead of 2005 for the second
Hi Mike,
As I posted a few months ago, the environmental 'elite' are not the only
ones crying wolf about biodiesel. The anarchist (and mostly excellent)
indymedia.org [?] ran an article titled something like Biodiesel will
kill Thousands!
It made no mention of the fact that biodiesel is the
Here are two links for non
food production sources for biodiesel. Forgive me if these have been
posted previously.
http://www.d1plc.com
Jatropha Curcas
http://www.eere.energy.gov/biomass/pdfs/biodiesel_from_algae.pdf
Does anyone know a place
where I can buy Mexican
Well, the bright lad obviously hadn't or hasn't heard of algae derived
biofuels.
His arguments are dinosaurs and no doubt he's aware of it. Enjoying the
attention, but also aware of his flaws/omissions in logic.
Todd Swearingen
Michael Redler wrote:
*What’s up with George Monbiot?!*
He
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