[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2003-01-06 Thread Andrew Hoppin
/Biofuel-Business-Plan/ Dedicated to Making An Immediate Impact On the Long-Range Future of Humanity Message: 2 Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 13:23:46 -0800 From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?! On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:45:06 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Hey Keith

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2003-01-06 Thread James Slayden
On the Long-Range Future of Humanity Message: 2 Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 13:23:46 -0800 From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?! On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:45:06 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Hey Keith, On that note, it would be great to pull together

[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2003-01-05 Thread murdoch
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:45:06 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Hey Keith, On that note, it would be great to pull together a table to get prices around the US/World for BD. Prices need to be verified by a scanned reciept or picture of the pump though. It would help people to decide if they want to buy

Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2003-01-05 Thread murdoch
On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 09:45:06 -0800 (PST), you wrote: Hey Keith, On that note, it would be great to pull together a table to get prices around the US/World for BD. Prices need to be verified by a scanned reciept or picture of the pump though. It would help people to decide if they want to buy

Re: bouncing mail - was Re: co-ops was Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2002-12-23 Thread James Slayden
actually, I am using Pine, so the graphics thing doesn't bother me. I think that it was just another Yahoo Groups pucky. It seems to happen about once every several months. Knowing some of the Yahoo folks (very cluefull people) my guess it is a server side issue just getting blown out. James

bouncing mail - was Re: co-ops was Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2002-12-20 Thread Keith Addison
Hi James Sorry you had probs with bouncing messages. You're not the only one. I hope it's working okay now. Maybe it had something to do with this, which has had me grinding my teeth (from a big list moderators' group, where Yahell isn't exactly as popular as hot dinners): This darn

Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2002-12-19 Thread James Slayden
Depends on where you get it The folks from San Luis Obispo indicated that they were paying $2.85gal from a local distributor. People who are members of the Berkley BD Co-op pay $1, non-members pay $2. I have heard pump prices ranging from ~$2.35 to $2.65. I suppose it depends on

Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2002-12-19 Thread James Slayden
Hey Keith, On that note, it would be great to pull together a table to get prices around the US/World for BD. Prices need to be verified by a scanned reciept or picture of the pump though. It would help people to decide if they want to buy or produce themselves based just on pump cost. James

Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2002-12-19 Thread Keith Addison
Hey Keith, On that note, it would be great to pull together a table to get prices around the US/World for BD. Prices need to be verified by a scanned reciept or picture of the pump though. It would help people to decide if they want to buy or produce themselves based just on pump cost. James

Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2002-12-19 Thread James Slayden
NP, just an idea. :) I see your point tho. Adminstration is the biggest time sink there is. On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Keith Addison wrote: Hey Keith, On that note, it would be great to pull together a table to get prices around the US/World for BD. Prices need to be verified by a scanned

Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2002-12-19 Thread girl mark
The local pump price for World Energy new soy oil -derived biodiesel fuel at Olympian in San Francisco is about $3.35 a gallon or something like that. It just went up from a slightly lower price after the soy subsidies were cut (?or some such reason).Olympian is a cardlock pump- they are a

Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2002-12-19 Thread James Slayden
I stand corrected, I think I was mixing up the tier system. And yes you have to be a member of the co-op to get fuel. Selling is a bad term on my part, suggested donation or re-imbursment cost is better terminology. Although I recently saw an article that even non-profits can sell things as

Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2002-12-19 Thread James Slayden
In the work I do (wireless Internet) we are finding that Tiered cost structures are also becoming a nightmare to administrate. It might be just better if the Co-op just charges everyone $2 and continue to keep the $25/qrtr $100/yr membership. Considering that Diesel #2 down the street is ~$1.80

Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2002-12-19 Thread girl mark
I don't know the name of the place, the 1.86 was Yokayo's price per 1000 gallon a few weeks ago (Last I checked) and the other price is what the Ecology Center truck fleet pays for it in 1000 gallon lots, that price they told me (they also posted it in some press article or another recently)

co-ops was Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2002-12-19 Thread girl mark
At 11:58 AM 12/19/2002 -0800, you wrote: In the work I do (wireless Internet) we are finding that Tiered cost structures are also becoming a nightmare to administrate. It might be just better if the Co-op just charges everyone $2 and continue to keep the $25/qrtr $100/yr membership.

Re: co-ops was Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2002-12-19 Thread James Slayden
Understood. There is a great sustainable community farm model in Virginia or Vermont that has susbscriptions for people who are want the produce, but don't want to participate in the actual labor. I don't know if they have a tiered system, but it seems to work well for them. The article was in

Re: co-ops was Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2002-12-19 Thread James Slayden
Keith, Looks like some of my email to biofuel@yahoogroups.com is bouncing, although some are getting through. Just wanted to let ya know. James On Thu, 19 Dec 2002, James Slayden wrote: Understood. There is a great sustainable community farm model in Virginia or Vermont that has

[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2002-12-18 Thread murdoch
WOW!! That's news to me. Where does BD cost around $1.50? I pay $2.65/gallon (and believe me, that hurts). I know you're going to tell me to start brewing my own--and you're right. But I am curious if you have info on regional pricing for biodiesel. Even if one brews one's own, one should

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2002-12-18 Thread Appal Energy
] BD at $1.50/gallon?! WOW!! That's news to me. Where does BD cost around $1.50? I pay $2.65/gallon (and believe me, that hurts). I know you're going to tell me to start brewing my own--and you're right. But I am curious if you have info on regional pricing for biodiesel. Even if one

Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2002-12-18 Thread murdoch
WOW!! That's news to me. Where does BD cost around $1.50? I pay $2.65/gallon (and believe me, that hurts). I know you're going to tell me to start brewing my own--and you're right. But I am curious if you have info on regional pricing for biodiesel. Even if one brews one's own, one should

Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2002-12-18 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Thor and MM WOW!! That's news to me. Where does BD cost around $1.50? I pay $2.65/gallon (and believe me, that hurts). Sorry Thor, I see that was an industry figure I checked, not a pump figure. But I think somebody has said they're buying commercial brew for $2. Somebody else quoted

Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2002-12-18 Thread girl mark
Prices I know of are in 1,000 gallon tanks- 1.86 per gallon that way for offroad, and 2.35/gallon with the road taxes on the same fuel. Unless the 1.86 price is outdated (prices on new soy biodiesel went up recently around here) this is coming from the WVO-derived biodiesel from the plant in