Title: Re-fuelling stations and engine modifications
Can anyone tell me definitely if petrol stations are required to do any modifications to be able to store and supply biodiesel?
And if diesel injectors need any modifications because of atomisation of fuel when using biodiesel?
thanks
hmmm, perhaps you could somehow arrange to have the u.s. embassy or consulate
as your official address of residence. :)
-chris b.
:-)
Not that mere rules seem to count for too much. I'm sure Saddam
Hussein could be US president if the powers-that-be wanted him to be.
I don't think he'd want
ROFLMAO!
keith strikes again.
i rather expect sadam would love the job. he could install himself as chief
justice and open the doors of all the prisons; pardon the rest of the '52 most
wanted'; bomb israel; invade saudi arabia and re-occupy kuwait; etc. not to
mention there'd no longer be
Derick:
Fear not! Just add it drop-by-drop with stirrig in between
if at all possible.
Ray
On Tue, 02 Aug 2005 23:36:17 -0400, DERICK GIORCHINO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
No my battery man told me not to add water to the acid but to add the
acid
to the water yet he also explained that
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Message: 3Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 18:45:33 +0200From: Hakan FalkSubject: Re: [Biofuel] The New Blue States/CountryTo: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgMessage-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowedDale,It is difficult and 2% is a very
I have pump-washed a 15L
batch of biodiesel 7 times and the wash water is still milky. Does this indicate
an incomplete reaction?
Prior to washing I did
a"shake test" and got clear separation with only a thin layer between the water
and the biodiesel.
Tom
Hello Tom
Sorry you didn't get an answer last time.
I have pump-washed a 15L batch of biodiesel 7 times and the
wash water is still milky. Does this indicate an incomplete reaction?
Prior to washing I did ashake test and got clear separation
with only a thin layer between the water
if you add a small amount of water to a concentrated acid, the heat of
solution will heat that small amount of water to boiling causing
splattering of the water acid mixture.
if you add a small amount of acid to water, the heat of solution will be
distributed over a large amount of water,
Hi All and John I,
I am in agreement with you in principal. Throwing money, especially government controlled money, at a problemgenerally wides up with a significant skim off with the rest going to a few well connected folks in the receiving country. You're lucky if a few drops makes its way
Thanks Bob -the procedure you outlined is what I recall. The only mixing
that I ever have done regularly is to mix 25 gallons of acetic acid to 840
gallons of brine. Where the actual introduction took place in the bottom of
a tank, I was far removed from any reaction that occurred.
Doug, N0LKK
Hi All,
Any real details about this "free trade" bill that Bush II just signed today?Tell meif you can which companies will benefit from it so I can vote with my money and not purchase their products. Those of you in the effected coutries, how are you going to be hurt or benefitted?
Tom
making pickles?
Doug Younker wrote:
Thanks Bob -the procedure you outlined is what I recall. The only mixing
that I ever have done regularly is to mix 25 gallons of acetic acid to 840
gallons of brine. Where the actual introduction took place in the bottom of
a tank, I was far removed from
I talked with a few folks last night about the home brewing of ethanol
from sawdust. I am happy to announce that these guys are working on a
found Oyster Mushroom mycelium that they are hopeful will break down
the cellulose in order to separate the lignin. If this experiment works
they may
Hi Tom
Hi All and John I,
I am in agreement with you in principal. Throwing money, especially
government controlled money, at a problem generally wides up with a
significant skim off with the rest going to a few well connected
folks in the receiving country. You're lucky if a few drops
John,
If you by anti US mean that I do not like the foreign policies by US
government and behavior of many US corporations, then I am as anti US as I
am anti OC (Other Country) with similar policies and behavior. This is
something I share with many Americans. If you mean that I am anti US
Greetings!
We are hosting another Elsbett SVO conversion workshop scheduled for
the week of September 19-24th
in Pittsboro, North Carolina, U.S.
We will be converting at least 10 and maybe more vehicles during this
workshop.
If you are interested in having your vehicle converted or
Through shareholder prodding via proxies on the inside of the
corporation and consumer exerting their purchasing power on the outside
of it, we can steer in the right direction those dumb giants that
corporations are.
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John,
If you by anti US mean that I do not
Greetings,
Garth and I spent a wonderful weekend with Paul and Bonnie, the owners of
www.oneseedling.com
It was a wonderful weekend of information sharing, aquaponics, the simple
life and methane production. They have a methane digester that runs
straight off their toilet! Too cool. No
I think this is related:
I had a conversation with a manager in my company. He's two levels up from my boss, so I needed to tread lightly on some issues that I wanted to bring up.
Anyway, I mentioned my belief that Enron was involved in the California energy crisis and he politely shut the door
I hope your friend isn't too adventurous. You might find him with more than his shoes off, skipping around and talking to the trees.
:-)
MikeBrian Rodgers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I talked with a few folks last night about the home brewing of ethanol from sawdust. I am happy to announce that
Mike, there are audio tapes of the enron power mangagers screwing the
public out there but I cant find them right now. They have been
broadcast on all the networks.
see for example
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/jul2005/2005-07-18-09.asp
Enron Faces $1.52 Billion Fine for California
please bear with me. I'm learning the lingo , but que dice ROFLMAO?
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ROFLMAO!
keith strikes again.
i rather
Mike--is this what you were looking for?
-Kirk
Ne'er-do-wells and the blackout of August 14, 2003
Welcome To The Dark Ages Greg Palast is author of the New York Times bestseller, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy (Penguin USA) and the worstseller, Democracy and Regulation, a guide to
The Blackout of August 14, 2003
It all started as a normal humid and hot summer day. Before it was over, the entire Northeast including a large portion of Canada was without power. Ironically, In fact, most of the East and Midwest was operating only at about 75 percent of capacity and in past
Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off
For future reference, here is a good place to start.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_slang#Common_Internet_slang
jh
William Adams wrote:
please bear with me. I'm learning the lingo , but que dice ROFLMAO?
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I agree. Let's give the president a taste of his own medicine.
Rich
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Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off
For future reference, here is a good place to start.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_slang#Common_Internet_slang
jh
William Adams wrote:
please
Hi All;
I am employed in the nanotechnology program at the university of
waterloo and have also been involved with semiconductor manufacturing
and microtechnology since the '80s. I would just like to add some info
and corrections on a previous post that I finally got a chance to read.
Keith
Hi All,
Just thought I would mention this. All of you composters out there have seen one of the molds that break apart lignin. It's the white rot fungus. It produces a peroxidase that just tears up lignin. I think the scientific name is Phanerochaete Chrysosporus. I worked with it when making
The power grid is so vulnerable I am amazed it hasn't been hit by
terrorists already. Back in January 1998 we had four days of freezing
rain in eastern Ontario and upstate NY. Only 4 days of freezing rain
and the weight of the ice began to topple the big high tension line
towers. We often get
I'm thinking of starting a small ethanol project and did some research. I came across a distilling head (https://www1.fishersci.com/Coupon?cid=1328gid=89796details=Y).
I like the idea ofglass hardware (even if it is more expensive than copper)because you can see whats going on. However, I have
Thank you!
Thank you everyone!
MikeJohn Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Redler wrote: I think this is related: I had a conversation with a manager in my company. He's two levels up from my boss, so I needed to tread lightly on some issues that I wanted to bring up. Anyway, I mentioned
Mushrooms like the same sugars that yeasts like. So a lot of what you
are trying to get from the wood is what the fungi consumes.
I have cultured both yeasts and fungi and had to have completely
seperate laminar stations because there was cross contamination going
out of control.
If you can
Hello to my fellow brewers from Ontario, Canada:
I just tried pricing MeOH and NaOH from Fisher Scientific (via
Good Health and Safety in Mississauga). MeOH @ $79CAD for 20L
and NaOH @ $267CAD for 5kg both before tax and shipping. That
won't do! There must be cheaper sources. I'm near Ottawa.
Does anybody have any views on the relative quality
/ useability of biodiesel produced from these 2 methods? Would you put biodiesel
produced from the single stage process (thats passed the quality test) in your
tank?
Thanks,
J
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Hehe
I hope your friend isn't too adventurous. You might find him
with
more than his shoes off, skipping around and talking to the trees.
:-)
Mike
Yep no
doubt about
it, but it might be a good idea for more of us to try a little "talking
to the
trees". Let's see if Mother Nature
Hey Mike,
Check out the new documentary ENRON: The Smartest
Guys in the Room by Alex Gibney.
It does a super job of encapsulating the sordid
details of ENRON's seedy rise and fall, including the
specifics about the megalomaniacal highwaymen who
engineered it.
More details at
jesus didnot exist at all period; look what happened anyway
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Thanks , John. I like that one. Bob A.
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Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off
For future
Hey Joe
First thing I thought
of after reading your story about the power grid being hit by bad guys
is dont
give them any ideas. Then I had another nave thought (maybe inane
would be a
better word), what do these terrorists want from us? Lets find out and
give it
to them! But then I came to
NaOH or KOH from supply houses, inclusive of internet, that serve home
soapmakers.
NaOH in pound lots at the neighborhood grocery or hardware store.
CH3OH in 55 gallon lots from bulk fuel plants and/or distributors.
Larger bulk propane distributorships use methanol as a solvent for water
mike,
try:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/01/eveningnews/main620626.shtml
http://www.users.cloud9.net/~bradmcc/EnronCalifCrisis.html
http://www.users.cloud9.net/~bradmcc/EnronCalifCrisis.html
jodi.tamu.edu/Articles/v05/i04/Ekbia/
www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=2530
roflmao = rolling on floor laughing my @$$ off
-chris b.
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Hi Brian;
Hey Joe
First thing I thought
of after reading your story about the power grid being hit by bad guys
is dont
give them any ideas.
Yeah I went through those thoughts myself in October 2001 when all the
radio stations were asking callers to chime in on how we should protect
Thanks Todd
You are in Montreal, are you not? Ottawa is a government town as
I am sure you know. There are no manufacturing, bulk fuel plants
or race tracks here or even near. Where do you get yours?
Ray
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 15:10:37 -0400, Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
NaOH or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(big snip)
further evidenced by your portrayal of the john bolton nomination.
'filibuster' is a blatant misrepresentation of what actually occured. there was no
filibuster at all. there were a majority of voices which wanted to proceed very
deliberately,
You are in Montreal, are you not?
Nope. Appalachian foothills of Southeast Ohio. Haven't been north of the
49th parallel in quite sometime. Rather miss BC and the Yukon.
You won't need to find a manufacturing plant. Look for bulk fuel
distributors, propane or petroleum, either or. They'll
that's really depressing. but now that you mention it, i thought i'd heard
somewhere that a recess appointment meant a pres got their nominee for
something like 18 months. six months seemed a little short.
so then, the sitting congress doesn't get to pick up the review process again
once the
All i have heard, they have said it many times.. that they want us to
leave them alone to get out of their lands Our way of life
offends them...
is that so hard??
Ray J
what do these terrorists want from us? Let’s find out and give it to
them! But then I came to my senses and
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that's really depressing. but now that you mention it, i thought i'd heard
somewhere that a recess appointment meant a pres got their nominee for
something like 18 months. six months seemed a little short.
so then, the sitting congress doesn't get to pick up the
Possibly. It could also indicate that your churning pump impeller is
manufacturing butter.
Washes don't need the vigorous mixing that pumps generate. Compound a
churning pump with long wash periods and an incomplete or even vaguely
incomplete reaction and you have a problem looking for
ROFLMAO!
keith strikes again.
And so does Chris, LOL!
i rather expect sadam would love the job.
You could be right.
he could install himself as chief
justice and open the doors of all the prisons; pardon the rest of the '52 most
wanted'; bomb israel; invade saudi arabia and re-occupy
very hard when they have something we want.
Ray J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All i have heard, they have said it many times.. that they want us to leave them alone to get out of their lands Our way of life offends them...is that so hard??Ray J what do these terrorists want from us? Lets
Oops that was unintentional Keith. Sorry and I can understand your
frustration. The price we pay for automation..
Joe
Keith Addison wrote:
Hello Joe
Hi All;
I am employed in the nanotechnology program at the university of
waterloo and have also been involved with semiconductor
Hello Justin
Does anybody have any views on the relative quality / useability of
biodiesel produced from these 2 methods? Would you put biodiesel
produced from the single stage process (thats passed the quality
test) in your tank?
Of course! And very often have done, and many other tanks as
john, you're the one exhibiting the bias here.
hakan makes pretty straight, oranges to oranges comparisons. you attempt to
sidestep this by raising the red herring of higher taxes. taxes are
so-o-o-o-o un-american. you've already associated 'un-americanism' with the
list
member you're
Hello Fred
thanks for the input, even if it does pop another bubble, dammit.
Mushrooms like the same sugars that yeasts like. So a lot of what you
are trying to get from the wood is what the fungi consumes.
I have cultured both yeasts and fungi and had to have completely
seperate laminar
Hello Joe
Hi All;
I am employed in the nanotechnology program at the university of
waterloo and have also been involved with semiconductor
manufacturing and microtechnology since the '80s. I would just like
to add some info and corrections on a previous post that I finally
got a chance to
very hard when they have something we want.
Not if you can get rid of the want. That's what a real energy policy
would accomplish.
None of this is a result of an addiction. It's a matter of choice -
politically and economically expedient choice. Just that it's turned out
to also be
The thing about waging war is that the civilians who die, have families who don't forget. It will take at least a generation of healing before a terrorist campaign of our doing is able to subside.
When I say "of our doing", I mean the things our government did and didn't do, to both extend a
Hi all,
I should have given more details about the processing. You have to grow the fungus separately and limit one of the nutrients. It produces good quantities of the peroxidase but it probably is not for those without a lab. I never got to the point of separating the peroxidase as I was
Hi everyone,
Earlier this week, I receivedsome obnoxious chain mail. I became so incensed by it, that I felt a need to respond - especially since ithad a cc list and a way to counter the hate that was being spread. One of the people on the list, a woman who I never met,took exception to my
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Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 6:01 AM
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Re:[Biofuel]The New Blue States/Country
jesus did not exist at all period; look
The people of other countries i.e. non-Western, have a much longer
memory than we do in the West. Think about the Bible, transmitted
through oral tradition from generation to generation for thousands of
years. Here in (civilized) countries, advertisers, bombarding us with
conflicting messages,
Bush may be leading us over the cliff, but there is where the buck
stops, I am certainly not a lemming. I'm getting off the train before
the crash.
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very hard when they have something we want.
Not if you can get rid of the want. That's what a real energy policy
i don't know, mike. i think she's kind of already there. the chain letter guy plays the instigator. she plays the apologist.
-chris-Original Message-From: Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 17:01:48 -0700 (PDT)Subject: [Biofuel] The
Michael Redler wrote:
Hi everyone,
Earlier this week snip
and again
On Aug 2, 2005, at 12:03 PM, Michael Redler wrote:
Joe, you xenophobic moron.
snip
Michael,
I didn't read an aweful lot of the exchange but, I can't imagine that
this approach is going to be met with anything but
Wow, I said to myself I was not going to tell the group so I could corner the
market, but the owner
of the Bar I am building just decided to double the size. So my unit is on the
trailer in the backyard and
will not get set up any time soon. I work as the local carpenter, cabinet
maker,
...depends on the audience.
Granted, if I gave myself a few minutes to gather my thoughts, I could have done a better job. In any event, I wasn't about to let it go without responding.
Mike"Ken Dunn - CountyEarth.com" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Redler wrote: Hi everyone, Earlier this
on 8/3/05 7:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So here it is, A mole sieve compressed air dryer will take water out of
ethanol if the dessicant is a type 3A some are some are not but the dessicant
can easily be replaced. This means it is possiable to produce a small
I agree.
The problem is, anyone with two or more
brain cells, and is willing to do some serious thinking can cause
problems.
Greg H.
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14:32
Subject: Re:
Alrighty Joe
Very good response.
In
the back of my mind I had the notion that
by researching biofuels and perhaps implementing some sort of
alternative fuel
strategy I would be putting my family into a group of people that do
not want
to invade countries for their energy and thus making me
I only know of a few states ( less than a dozen ) with reg's about
transporting WVO, perhaps you can supply a full list.
Greg H.
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Hello,
For the last 2 weeks i have been trying to make biodiesel from WVO with 60%
linoleic acid. I did many many test batches but never i had a good quality
test as discribed here
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#quality
It never separates within 30 minutes but after a
ouch! methinks ten million be a pathetically low estimate.
-chris b.
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Let's see, How many Muslim extremists killed ten million native north
and south americans in the name of freedom of religion ?- Original Message
Todd
Thank you for responding to my question re: pump washing.
Your answer has raised more questions.
I wanted to know if a milky wash after 7 washings indicated an
incomplete reaction. You replied:
Possibly. It could also indicate that your churning pump impeller is
I didn't think of it in those terms but, I think you're right on.
Mike[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i don't know, mike. i think she's kind of already there. the chain letter guy plays the instigator. she plays the apologist.
-chris-Original Message-From: Michael Redler [EMAIL
Thank you Keith for your thoughts.
I will try stir washing with hot water.
I have concerns re: stir washing. Can I expect good results if I rig a
paint stirrer and drill up to a tall, narrow 35 gallon wash tank? Will it
provide sufficient agitation throughout?
Andrew,
I know you said it in jest, but the unfortunate effect of your sarcasm
regarding David Pimentel, one of the nations' outstanding scientists, is to
support the ignorant critics of good science who argue that, if I believe
in a proposition, then anyone who presents evidence that
Let's see, How many Muslim extremists killed
ten million native north and south americans in the name of freedom of
religion ?- Original Message -
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Hello Bob, Andrew
Normally I'd agree with you Bob, but not in Pimentel's case, that
time was long ago, and now Andrew's response is not inappropriate.
Pimentel merits little better than scorn and derision
Andrew,
I know you said it in jest, but the unfortunate effect of your
sarcasm
Michael- I know that I'm not the first to say it, but I have to agree with
those who point out the following; Some demonize another so they can excuse
their own wrong doings in their own minds. Generally I find it a waste of
time to respond, because they aren't interested in hearing what others
LOL, it would sound like it Bob, but no. The brine was from oil production.
The brew was put down the annulus of an oil well bore as a cleaning agent
prior to treatment with biocide, corrosion inhibitor, scale inhibitor or a
combination of those.
Doug, N0LKK
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