Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Revealed: Why Germans Oppose War in Iraq - French Fries - OT

2002-11-11 Thread David Preskett
Keith, I've just got to pick you over this: #There's an apparent misclassification of water pollution standards in Germany, where the risk from rapeseed oil is not even classified, whereas biodiesel is a class 1 hazard, and fossil diesel is in class 2 (worse). It only refers to water pollution

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Revealed: Why Germans Oppose War in Iraq - French Fries - OT

2002-11-11 Thread Keith Addison
Hello David Keith, I've just got to pick you over this: #There's an apparent misclassification of water pollution standards in Germany, where the risk from rapeseed oil is not even classified, whereas biodiesel is a class 1 hazard, and fossil diesel is in class 2 (worse). It only refers to

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Revealed: Why Germans Oppose War in Iraq -French Fries - OT

2002-11-11 Thread David Preskett
Keith, Do you ever manage to sleep? :-) Dave Keith Addison wrote: Hello David Keith, I've just got to pick you over this: #There's an apparent misclassification of water pollution standards in Germany, where the risk from rapeseed oil is not even classified, whereas biodiesel is a

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Revealed: Why Germans Oppose War in Iraq -French Fries - OT

2002-11-11 Thread Keith Addison
Keith, Do you ever manage to sleep? :-) Oh yes, lovely stuff, sleep. :-) I've certainly spent more time at this keyboard in the last 24 hours than I'd wanted to - enough, other things to do now, have to finish an AT project and start another, and take some photographs of how to make Dubbin

[biofuels-biz] Senator Kerry Speaks about Alternative Fuels and Presidential Candidacy plans on ABC

2002-11-11 Thread Andrew Hoppin
In case you missed it, on Sunday Nov. 10th Senator Kerry (D-Mass.) was on ABC's This Week (with George Stephanopoulos), and squeezed in a nice mention about how alternative fuels can help the environment, reduce our national security risks in the Middle East, and create more jobs for Americans.

[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] Senator Kerry Speaks about Alternative Fuels and Presidential Candidacy plans on ABC

2002-11-11 Thread Keith Addison
Interesting. I'd heard some rumblings that he was going to try it on again with diesel. Last time he mentioned diesel he rapidly bit his tongue off when it brought him instant attack by the diesel-bashing lobby. We thought at the time that what was missing from his thinking was biodiesel. If

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Revealed: Why Germans Oppose War in Iraq - French Fries - OT

2002-11-11 Thread James Slayden
I believe that CytoCulture out here in CA is using BD for remediation: http://www.cytoculture.com/process.html James On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, David Preskett wrote: Keith, I've just got to pick you over this: #There's an apparent misclassification of water pollution standards in Germany,

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Revealed: Why Germans Oppose War in Iraq - French Fries - OT

2002-11-11 Thread Keith Addison
I believe that CytoCulture out here in CA is using BD for remediation: http://www.cytoculture.com/process.html James Thankyou James. I often think I should pay more attention to CytoCulture, there seem to be some good folks there. Mark was just saying something about them on the other list.

[biofuel] Re: Our Constitution Was: Politics

2002-11-11 Thread Keith Addison
Harmon Seaver wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harmon, I sympathise, but stop it now, this thread is OVER. Ahh, sorry -- I'm reading down the list, just saw your post, and I've apparantly been responding to other messages long after your finis. Yes

Re: [biofuel] What's your 20

2002-11-11 Thread Keith Addison
Hey, you lucky guy, I've always wanted to go there too!! If ever you email JPEG's of Japan (like to your friends or relatives etc) ... CC: some of those to me (off-list) will ya??!! Sure, if that ever happens - I guess it will. BTW, I'm assuming Midori must be your wife/girlfriend/etc. Your

Re: [biofuel] What's your 20

2002-11-11 Thread Keith Addison
Right, thanks. Keith Your 20 short for 10-20 (most have heard of Roger, 10-4) term used by one radio operator asking another where on the map are you??, since a radio mounted in an automobile could be anywhere. I thought it appropriate ... since with the 'net, it's not always

2 stage method - was Re: END THIS THREAD NOW. - WAS Re: [biofuel] Politics

2002-11-11 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Doug snip On another note: I am about to embark on the new 2 stage method. The acid-base method? How do people mix monitor the temp in test batches? What are you making them in? (It seems al;most easier to do a 50L batch so I can use our manufactured tank (will send photos

Re: END THIS THREAD NOW. - WAS Re: [biofuel] Politics

2002-11-11 Thread Doug Foskey
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:01, you wrote: That is more than enough of this thread thankyou. I've hinted, asked, others have complained, people are taking no notice. Any further posts on this thread will get the poster suspended. Keith Addison Moderator Well said: I have been hitting the

Re: [biofuel] Project Help

2002-11-11 Thread Keith Addison
Wow, you want quite a lot of help. Alright, I have a few questions about a project I'm doing. 1)Are there any politicians (Past and present) who have fervently supported biofuels, and is there any way I can contact them? The Governors of all the corn states all fervently support ethanol, for

Re: 2 stage method - was Re: END THIS THREAD NOW. - WAS Re: [biofuel] Politics

2002-11-11 Thread Doug Foskey
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:47, you wrote: Hello Doug snip On another note: I am about to embark on the new 2 stage method. The acid-base method? How do people mix monitor the temp in test batches? What are you making them in? (It seems al;most easier to do a 50L batch so I can

Re: 2 stage method - was Re: END THIS THREAD NOW. - WAS Re: [biofuel] Politics

2002-11-11 Thread rpg
- Original Message - From: Doug Foskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip I was thinking of using a large glass jar, but now I think about it I have an old electric frypan to heat the mix, control the temp, just need to work out a stirrer (maybe a small motor driving a pair of magnets, another

Re: 2 stage method - was Re: END THIS THREAD NOW. - WAS Re: [biofuel] Politics

2002-11-11 Thread Doug Foskey
If thats an aluminium electric frypan be careful, the caustic/methoxide will eat the aluminium. Stirrer idea sounds good but if its the shallow type of frypan I'm thinking of there is a high bottom area to volume ratio and posibility of unagitated spots at edges. regards, Paul Gobert. I

Re: [biofuel] Re: The impression you are making Was:WHOA!! - Politics

2002-11-11 Thread Kim Garth Travis
Hey, don't paint all of us with Chris's brush. Why do you think we need the literacy programs so bad? I happen to know Texas history much better than the average Texan, I was not born here. The standing joke in Texas is: What does a Texan call a Yankee? answer: Boss Chris is doing a good

[biofuel] I'm sorry

2002-11-11 Thread Kim Garth Travis
I normally look at the messages in the morning and I responded after the order to desist, but I hadn't read it yet. BTW, I was just trying to point out, that some good can come out of evil, which is why I mentioned the Bush family legacy for Literacy, which is nationwide, not just Texas. Am

[biofuel] Mid sized Diesel pickups?

2002-11-11 Thread Martha Olson
Well, my little ole Mazda pickup came to an untimely end last week (unfortunately with me in it) and I'm contemplating buying a diesel truck so I'd have the option of going with biofuel. I'd be looking for a 10 yr old ( + or - ) truck. What models are readily available in the US? What kind of

RE: [biofuel] Common roots Was: Politics

2002-11-11 Thread kirk
Ishmael was the son of Sarah's handmaiden. He is the father of non-Jewish Semites. Isaac is the father of Jewish Semites or Hebrews. 80% of modern Jewry is non-Semitic thus the inheritance of Palestine is somewhat a weak claim. The Christians are of any tribe. It is a spiritual birth. There is no

Re: [biofuel] I'm sorry

2002-11-11 Thread Keith Addison
I normally look at the messages in the morning and I responded after the order to desist, but I hadn't read it yet. BTW, I was just trying to point out, that some good can come out of evil, which is why I mentioned the Bush family legacy for Literacy, which is nationwide, not just Texas. Am I

Re: [biofuel] Mid sized Diesel pickups?

2002-11-11 Thread Keith Addison
Well, my little ole Mazda pickup came to an untimely end last week (unfortunately with me in it) and I'm contemplating buying a diesel truck so I'd have the option of going with biofuel. I'd be looking for a 10 yr old ( + or - ) truck. What models are readily available in the US?

[biofuel] Re: Common roots Was: Politics

2002-11-11 Thread Harmon Seaver
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ishmael was the son of Sarah's handmaiden. He is the father of non-Jewish Semites. Isaac is the father of Jewish Semites or Hebrews. 80% of modern Jewry is non-Semitic thus the inheritance of Palestine is somewhat a weak claim.

Re: [biofuel] Mid sized Diesel pickups?

2002-11-11 Thread studio53
Well, The pickin's are slim. I have an 86 Isuzu Trooper Turbo Diesel and it took quite a while to find it. Ebay, $1500, and it needed a fair amount of work. I do have the twin tank system installed and it works wonderfully. The US made choices; Dodge and Ford seem to have a lot of mechanical

[biofuel] Jetta TDI

2002-11-11 Thread yoslater1
Hi, MY old car is dying a slow painful death and I was thinking about getting the Jetta TDI. Does anyone have any experience with putting biodiesel in Jetta's ?? All ideas welcomed! Thanks Slater Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Sell a Home with

[biofuel] wvo moisture content

2002-11-11 Thread herbalist2k
Hello, I am currently designing a veg oil fired dehydrator to dry my wvo. Does anyone have any data or know where data can be found concerning the moisture content of wvo? Thanks, James Higgs Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Home Selling? Try Us!

Re: [biofuel] Mid sized Diesel pickups? MPG

2002-11-11 Thread MH
Martha Olson wrote: Well, my little ole Mazda pickup came to an untimely end last week (unfortunately with me in it) and I'm contemplating buying a diesel truck so I'd have the option of going with biofuel. I'd be looking for a 10 yr old ( + or - ) truck. What models are readily

[biofuel] Senator Kerry Speaks about Alternative Fuels and Presidential Candidacy plans on ABC

2002-11-11 Thread Andrew Hoppin
In case you missed it, on Sunday Nov. 10th Senator Kerry (D-Mass.) was on ABC's This Week (with George Stephanopoulos), and squeezed in a nice mention about how alternative fuels can help the environment, reduce our national security risks in the Middle East, and create more jobs for Americans.

RE: [biofuel] Common roots

2002-11-11 Thread Hakan Falk
Kirk, Thank you for your answer and it is very interesting to get explanations on the development of the different religions with the same God. Within each religion you can then find further development into other groups, that also are fighting each others. The part of the claim to Israel was

Israel - was [biofuel] Re: Common roots Was: Politics

2002-11-11 Thread Keith Addison
Harmon wrote: snip I don't know what the answer is for peace in that area, unless we could start spraying the whole area with LSD once a week. As much as we dislike the methods, I think we also have to recognize that the Jews are pretty much fighting for their lives - while many Palestians may

Re: [biofuel] Senator Kerry Speaks about Alternative Fuels and Presidential Candidacy plans on ABC

2002-11-11 Thread Keith Addison
Interesting. I'd heard some rumblings that he was going to try it on again with diesel. Last time he mentioned diesel he rapidly bit his tongue off when it brought him instant attack by the diesel-bashing lobby. We thought at the time that what was missing from his thinking was biodiesel. If

Re: [biofuel] Senator Kerry Speaks about Alternative Fuels and Presidential Candidacy plans on ABC

2002-11-11 Thread Olivia Trusdale
Looks like we will have to look to Senators Kerry and Lieberman to save the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge as well. Check it out: http://www.gristmagazine.com/daily/daily110802.asp?source=stealth olivia __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH -

RE: [biofuel] Common roots

2002-11-11 Thread Keith Addison
Kirk, Thank you for your answer and it is very interesting to get explanations on the development of the different religions with the same God. Within each religion you can then find further development into other groups, that also are fighting each others. The part of the claim to Israel was

Re: [biofuel] Nuremberg Inventor's Fair 3

2002-11-11 Thread Robby Davenport
also don't forget new cars they ( at least afew years back would put a film on the inside of the windows ) wonder how good that was for us . and have you ever been in a carpet or clothing store and the fumes from the material would irritate your eyes? Robert Cletus Obrian wrote: My higher

[biofuel] fuel additives

2002-11-11 Thread Mccall Tom WP US
How much Bio D can be added to a gasoline engine before it starts to cause problems? I have heard that some will add a gallon or two of diesel to gasoline engine's fuel tank if the engine has a slight knock. I guess that the slower burn speed of the diesel helps to reduce eliminate the knock?

Re: [biofuel] Common roots

2002-11-11 Thread Kim Garth Travis
Although Buddhism is not the same religion, they do teach the teachings of Jesus Christ, as one of the younger reincarnations of Buddha. Perhaps a blending is the only way to peace? Bright Blessings, Kim Hakan Falk wrote: Kirk, Thank you for your answer and it is very interesting to

Re: [biofuel] Common roots

2002-11-11 Thread Kim Garth Travis
And the Dalai Lama is exceptionally literate, his books are great. Bright Blessings, Kim Keith Addison wrote: Kirk, Thank you for your answer and it is very interesting to get explanations on the development of the different religions with the same God. Within each religion you can

Re: [biofuel] wvo moisture content

2002-11-11 Thread Keith Addison
Hello, I am currently designing a veg oil fired dehydrator to dry my wvo. Does anyone have any data or know where data can be found concerning the moisture content of wvo? Thanks, James Higgs I think it varies a lot James. You need a maximum? A maximum of water might correlate roughly with high

Re: [biofuel] Biofuel in Ontario

2002-11-11 Thread mark manchester
Thanks Steve! for this link which may turn up so useful. Congratulations to Keith for making it through a wacky weekend, boy, you biofuelers can get a bit steamy around the collar! Mostly I love to read anything that Mark writes. She's my hero. My daughter Emma attended a Deep Ecology course

[biofuel] Re: Jetta TDI

2002-11-11 Thread creeble
Don't really have anything substantive here, but the Jetta TDI is the same engine as in the Beetle: http://www.pipeline.to/biodiesel/BBPR.html So it's clearly been done. I've been thinking about trading in my '98 NewBeetle in on a TDI one and running it on B100... Eric (new member). --- In

Re: [biofuel] Jetta TDI

2002-11-11 Thread Keith Addison
Hi, MY old car is dying a slow painful death and I was thinking about getting the Jetta TDI. Does anyone have any experience with putting biodiesel in Jetta's ?? All ideas welcomed! Thanks Slater Put it in and go. If it's new-ish it'll be biodiesel-proof, probably all Jetta TDIs are. The

[biofuel] 'CrockPots'? was 2 stage method

2002-11-11 Thread girl_mark_fire
I've been thinking about this question too- I can do 10 liter batches as my 'test batch' but would also like to do smaller ones, like the equivalent of a single-stage blender batch. You talking about kitchen equipment makes me think the following could work: try a CrockPot if you're in the

[biofuel] PVO [was: '86 Nissan Pickup]

2002-11-11 Thread elijah smith
PVO is pure veggie oil (SVO = straight v.o., WVO = waste v.o.)... - Original Message - From: studio53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:56 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] '86 Nissan Pickup Did someone slip a new term by me? What's PVO? Jesse

[biofuel] correction on Re: 'CrockPots'? was 2 stage method

2002-11-11 Thread girl_mark_fire
I just realized I got temperatures all confused writing that last post. For those not currently doing two-stage acid-base, the process needs both 35 C for the first stage (therefore the fish tank heater should work for a liter batch) and 55 C for the second stage (which maybe is outside the

Re: [biofuel] Jetta TDI

2002-11-11 Thread Richard J Laue
Hi, MY old car is dying a slow painful death and I was thinking about getting the Jetta TDI. Does anyone have any experience with putting biodiesel in Jetta's ?? All ideas welcomed! Thanks Slater Hi, Slater - Go to http://www.tdiclub.com/ This is a VERY ACTIVE website for TDI owners.

[biofuel] HCB story

2002-11-11 Thread Rick
You guys would have been better off taking the side step I handed you, you lost about twenty points on this end Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list

[biofuel] World Peace

2002-11-11 Thread Harmon Seaver
Ah, World Peace -- Peace Now - in your lifetime! All we need is love -- all we need is to get the UN to promote psilocybic mushrooms and cannabis use with all it's might. And have all the worlds bombers converted into spray planes to dose combatants with a little omniscient LSD/DMSO combo.

Re: [biofuel] World Peace

2002-11-11 Thread rpg
- Original Message - From: Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] All we need is love -- all we need is to get the UN to promote psilocybic mushrooms and cannabis use with all it's might. And have all the worlds bombers converted into spray planes to dose combatants with a little

Re: [biofuel] Biofuel in Ontario

2002-11-11 Thread Stanley Baer
Hi My name is Stan, I have just recently started following this newsgroup. I also live in Ontario, Kitchener actually. I am quite interested in making a biofuel processor but I have to make sure I can get the waste oil easily and I have to finish building my sawmill before I can start a

Re: [biofuel] World Peace

2002-11-11 Thread Ken Provost
Paul Gobert writes: Hope you are joking Harmon. Thats escapism, lets work on making reality worthwhile. I gotta chime in on this one. Firstly, human reality has ALWAYS included mind-altering herbs, fungi, drinks, etc. It's as much a part of being human to enjoy them as it is to enjoy, say,

Re: [biofuel] Jetta TDI

2002-11-11 Thread slater crosby
Keith, Thanks for the reply, what percentage of bio-diesel to regular diesel do you run, I have heard only 10-20%. What is the real number ? Thanks Slater From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Jetta

[biofuel] Percentage of diesel to bio-diesel

2002-11-11 Thread yoslater1
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Re: [biofuel] Jetta TDI

2002-11-11 Thread Steve Spence
Both biodiesel and svo/wvo. '98 TDI. Have fun! Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: yoslater1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com

[biofuel] Re: World Peace

2002-11-11 Thread Harmon Seaver
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], rpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] All we need is love -- all we need is to get the UN to promote psilocybic mushrooms and cannabis use with all it's might. And have all the worlds bombers

[biofuel] Nuremberg Inventor's Fair 3

2002-11-11 Thread Cletus Obrian
My higher point was, is, and will continue to be, that I think it would be a good idea to give consumers a better idea of all the gasses in their rooms, their houses, their cars, their offices, their outdoors. How is this exclusive to the information I've provided you? I offered you

Re: [biofuel] Jetta TDI

2002-11-11 Thread Steve Spence
b100, 100% biodiesel. no dino diesel. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: slater crosby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent:

Re: [biofuel] Percentage of diesel to bio-diesel

2002-11-11 Thread Steve Spence
go 100%. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: yoslater1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:15

RE: [biofuel] Re: Common roots Was: Politics

2002-11-11 Thread kirk
Harmon, my source on the 80% of modern Jewry is not Hebrew is -- The Jewish Encyclopaedia They ought to know. Kirk -Original Message- From: Harmon Seaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 7:58 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Re: Common roots

[biofuel] Re: Common roots Was: Politics

2002-11-11 Thread Harmon Seaver
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harmon, my source on the 80% of modern Jewry is not Hebrew is -- The Jewish Encyclopaedia They ought to know. Really? In the information reference world, any encyclopedia is considered -- at best -- a tertiary souce of information.

[biofuel] Re: World Peace

2002-11-11 Thread Harmon Seaver
Anyone interested in hearing some great indig music, check out http://www.airos.org From traditional and country to native american hip-hop, reggae, and moderne shamanic spirituality, it's all Earth based music. Love Mother Earth? Dance to her voice! Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

[biofuel] Re: World Peace

2002-11-11 Thread Harmon Seaver
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], rpg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hope you are joking Harmon. Thats escapism, lets work on making reality worthwhile. True reality is always worthwhile. Have you ever experienced it? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels

Re: [biofuel] What's your 20

2002-11-11 Thread James Slayden
hrmm, being in the service at one time in comm, for us it was copy you 5-by. More in the light of can you here and understand me?. ;-) James On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, csakima wrote: Your 20 short for 10-20 (most have heard of Roger, 10-4) term used by one radio operator asking

Re: [biofuel] Project Help

2002-11-11 Thread James Slayden
hrmm, methinks that Melissa should contact Southern States Power Company who are making comerce BD out of the LA area. Don't know what process they are using or what feedstock, cause it's been a while since I talked to them (bad vibe when I called last). James On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Keith

Re: [biofuel] HCB story

2002-11-11 Thread Keith Addison
Richard Morgan wrote: You guys would have been better off taking the side step I handed you, you lost about twenty points on this end You mean this? http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=18068list=BIOFUEL Not very relevant, IMO, nor very interesting. Bit of an overworked theme, not a very

Re: [biofuel] Mid sized Diesel pickups?

2002-11-11 Thread James Slayden
I was just talking about this with a member of the Biodiesel class over the weekend and he was thinking of an Isuzu Pup, both for the pratical reasons of having a truck, and the milage benefit of having a small engine. Dunno, it depends on what features your looking for. James On Mon, 11 Nov

[biofuel] Re: Mid sized Diesel pickups?

2002-11-11 Thread creeble
Slim pickin's is right -- I've been searching for a low-priced ($3000) diesel pickup of any size or condition in the general SF Bay area, and I'm coming up pretty short. I'd like to experience using biodiesel (available at exactly ONE pump in the Bay area) with a low-risk investment that I

RE: [biofuel] Re: Common roots Was: Politics

2002-11-11 Thread kirk
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