[biofuels-biz] Joshua Tickell in Kaniva, Vic.

2002-12-23 Thread Steven Helen Hobbs
Appologies for cross posting! It seems we will be fortunate to have Joshua Tickell visit and speak before returning to the States. Renowned international speaker author of the book, ãFrom the Fryer to the Fuel Tankä, Joshua Tickell will be speaking in Kaniva on ãUsing Vegetable Oil as an

Fwd: Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Japan: Environment Ministry High on Alcohol-Fueled Vehicles

2002-12-23 Thread Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com, Sam Jai-In [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi KeithHakan, The resistance came from all sides, both the automakers in Japan and the legs and arms here in Thailand as well as those that have business interest or cross holding in petroleum,MTBE or tetraethyllead! Those

Fwd: Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Japan: Environment Ministry High on Alcohol-Fueled Vehicles

2002-12-23 Thread Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com, Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Samai, I agree with you, Keith is doing a marvel with the web site Journey to forever, dealing with maybe the most important problems for developing countries. I think that he is getting it all together in a very

[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Special Alert -- Don't Delay! Register Now for the Biodiesel Research and Brainstorming Workshop

2002-12-23 Thread James Slayden
Would be nice if they had the sessions online for a marginal price package . Anyone from the NBB lurking?? ;-) James Slayden On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, murdoch wrote: If you’re interested in learning about the latest biodiesel research and technical data from North America’s leading

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Time Magazine features Direct Liquid Ethanol Fuel Cells

2002-12-23 Thread James Slayden
Just was perusing the Medis webpage, they seem to have some smaller eth battery technology they are going into. I am interested in the rotay engine they have as it could be useful for a hybrid application. MM, Biodiesel hybrid .. Guess Capstone is also a competing technology, might get

[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] toxins in this season U.S. corn

2002-12-23 Thread James Slayden
Of Course, if someone out there in the growing belt gets a clue . ;-O lemme see make oil, turn into biodiesel, take cake, make into ethanol, use dried mash as heat source for ethanol process, use some of ethanol for biodiesel process, use sun for heating corn SVO Dunno, seems doable.

Re: [biofuels-biz] Burning sunflowers

2002-12-23 Thread James Slayden
Now this sounds really interesting!! Do you have a link to the Company?? James Slayden On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, David Teal wrote: Quote from the Leeds University alumni magazine www.leeds.ac.uk/alumni : Fuel and energy researchers are hoping to use sunflower oil to produce hydrogen, a

Re: [biofuels-biz] Burning sunflowers

2002-12-23 Thread James Slayden
Ah, thanks. On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, David Teal wrote: Sorry, direct ref should be: http://reporter.leeds.ac.uk/483/s3.htm Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages

Re: [biofuels-biz] Burning sunflowers

2002-12-23 Thread James Slayden
It kinda sounds like they are also using some type of supercritical CO method for oil extraction, thus leaving a somewhat clean process. Todd, you have links to any white papers on CO to Methanol conversion? I haven't had much success before. Thanks, James Slayden On Sat, 21 Dec 2002,

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Burning sunflowers

2002-12-23 Thread James Slayden
BYW, they might want to pick a seed with higher oil content. http://www.journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html James Slayden On Sat, 21 Dec 2002, hcr_ii [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Todd, when I was a student in this department there was quite a bit of work being done on the pyrolysis of

[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] SUV, truck owners get a big tax break

2002-12-23 Thread James Slayden
Now, it certainly doesn't say gas or diesel ;-) looking at the list, the Dodge Ram 2500 seems like a nice little pickup (hehehehehe). Time to start that business Yummie: http://www.dodge.com/ram_hd/model_overview/index.html James Slayden On Sun, 22 Dec 2002, Keith Addison wrote:

(response to Keith) Re: [biofuels-biz] Biofuel Business Plan Group Kicking Off Projects NOW

2002-12-23 Thread Andrew Hoppin
Keith, Thanks for your candid feedback and good ideas. Before I address your specific points and questions, let me try to clarify that the basic motivation for forming this group as I see it, through a hypothetical: On the consumer side, if I am in New York and I'm interested in questions

RE: [biofuels-biz] City of Oakland holding a meeting aimed supporting local commercial biodiesel production

2002-12-23 Thread Stephen L. Barbose
Please let us know when the meeting is scheduled. -Original Message- From: Kenneth Kron [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 6:13 PM To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com; girl_mark_fire; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[biofuels-biz] City

[biofuels-biz] Bruning Feed and Grain

2002-12-23 Thread James Slayden
Hola Everyone, http://www.bruninggrainco.com/pdf%27s/electric.pdf Note the more environmental extraction process. Also note the concern for Mad Cow and Hoof Mouth from (I suppose) rendering?! I can only guess when the article talks about non-natural meal products it means animal renderings

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] Australia puts off imposing cap on ethanol in fuel

2002-12-23 Thread James Slayden
When I lived in Illinois in the late 70's, they had just started selling Gassahol (10%eth, 90%gas), and I started using it. Within 2 months the fuel filter clogged due to the tank clearing. Just replaced the fuel filter and all was well. Didn't seem to be any effect on the rubber parts at all.

Methane to Methanol was Re: [biofuels-biz] Burning sunflowers

2002-12-23 Thread Appal Energy
Personally, no white papers in hand. But a Google search for 'Methane conversion Methanol' will give you weeks of bedtime reading material. Even a few methods on how to produce acetic acid, but unfortunately too much methanol is derived at the same time...Go figger! Conversion process using

Re: (response to Keith) Re: [biofuels-biz] Biofuel Business Plan Group Kicking Off Projects NOW

2002-12-23 Thread Hakan Falk
Dear Andrew, I have been an entrepreneur for the most part of my active live and started quite a few businesses and if you adapt your ambitions, goals and methods as you go along, it could be a valuable contribution. I have been actively involved in businesses in more than 14 countries and have

Re: Methane to Methanol was Re: [biofuels-biz] Burning sunflowers

2002-12-23 Thread James Slayden
Thanks Todd. Yep, I have looked at a search stream before, and have read a significant amount, but have not found exactly what I was looking for. But the link you sent on landfill gas is!! :) James Slayden On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, Appal Energy wrote: Personally, no white papers in hand. But

[biofuels-biz] Fwd: Ethanol and Fuel Filters

2002-12-23 Thread Keith Addison
Randy sent me this, which I didn't know about: Hi Keith a long time ago. When leaded gasoline was still sold under the label 'Regular', the gasoline would leave a varnish inside of the gas tank and fuel lines. High octane gasoline was called Ethyl, because of the additive tetra ethyl

[biofuels-biz] Fwd: ETHANOL IN CALIFORNIA

2002-12-23 Thread Keith Addison
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 16:38:46 EST Subject: ETHANOL IN CALIFORNIA To: (a helluva lot of people, including me) The American Coalition for Ethanol and The Clean Fuels Development Coalition are pleased to announce a workshop to be held in Sacramento California on February

Re: (response to Keith) Re: [biofuels-biz] Biofuel Business Plan Group Kicking Off Projects NOW

2002-12-23 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Andrew Keith, Thanks for your candid feedback and good ideas. Before I address your specific points and questions, let me try to clarify that the basic motivation for forming this group as I see it, through a hypothetical: On the consumer side, if I am in New York and I'm interested in

[biofuels-biz] Re: (response to Keith) Re: Biofuel Business Plan Group Kicking Off Projects NOW

2002-12-23 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Hakan Pardon the snip: snip It is very few large companies that can live with entrepreneurs, the only one I have close work experiences from, was ITT, when Harold Geneen was still in charge. By the way, I was shocked by his language the only time I participated in a meeting with him,

Fwd: [biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] Australia puts off imposing cap on ethanol in fuel

2002-12-23 Thread Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, motie_d [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, motie_d [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can give a personal anecdote. I still drive a 1989 Chevy pickup I bought brand new. It has used almost exclusively 10%

Fwd: Re: OT - Nation's SUV Critics Are Gaining Traction

2002-12-23 Thread Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, coachgeo3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well said Hakan. Has anyone done a study of biodiesel and or Veg oil fuels and its affect say in marine boating use? Does either creat simular health hazards to aquatic life as does dino fuels? --- In

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT - Nation's SUV Critics Are Gaining Traction

2002-12-23 Thread Greg and April
I'm going to put my $.02 in. I'm in the process of buying a '85 Toyota Land Cruiser BJ60. Why? 1) Because it will be getting better milage than the little Subarue SW I now have. 2) I have a growing family, that just fits in to the Subarue (2 adults + 2 children + 2 child safty seats makes for

Re: [biofuel] WVO for SVO in BC

2002-12-23 Thread James Slayden
Hey Edward, Are you folks selling the Elsbit conversion now? Visited Craig one day as he was doing his first in Berkley. It was interesting. James Slayden On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, Neoteric Biofuels Inc wrote: 59 cents per liter--certainly competitive with fossil diesel fuel, but offers NO

Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Special Alert -- Don't Delay! Register Now for the Biodiesel Research and Brainstorming Workshop

2002-12-23 Thread James Slayden
Would be nice if they had the sessions online for a marginal price package . Anyone from the NBB lurking?? ;-) James Slayden On Fri, 20 Dec 2002, murdoch wrote: If you’re interested in learning about the latest biodiesel research and technical data from North America’s leading

Re: [biofuel] Methanol - 5-gal containers

2002-12-23 Thread Greg and April
Keith, You have aroused my curosity, and I have to ask why you say don't try for the free samples ? Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 03:47 Subject:

Re: bouncing mail - was Re: co-ops was Re: [biofuel] BD at $1.50/gallon?!

2002-12-23 Thread James Slayden
actually, I am using Pine, so the graphics thing doesn't bother me. I think that it was just another Yahoo Groups pucky. It seems to happen about once every several months. Knowing some of the Yahoo folks (very cluefull people) my guess it is a server side issue just getting blown out. James

Re: [biofuel] Methanol - 5-gal containers

2002-12-23 Thread Keith Addison
Keith, You have aroused my curosity, and I have to ask why you say don't try for the free samples ? Greg H. Apologies Greg, pure laziness. I should have written something instead saying they're now suppling meth, but Jess's letter was right there saying it all so I sent that instead -

Re: [biofuel] toxins in this season U.S. corn

2002-12-23 Thread James Slayden
Of Course, if someone out there in the growing belt gets a clue . ;-O lemme see make oil, turn into biodiesel, take cake, make into ethanol, use dried mash as heat source for ethanol process, use some of ethanol for biodiesel process, use sun for heating corn SVO Dunno, seems doable.

Re: [biofuel] SUV, truck owners get a big tax break

2002-12-23 Thread James Slayden
Now, it certainly doesn't say gas or diesel ;-) looking at the list, the Dodge Ram 2500 seems like a nice little pickup (hehehehehe). Time to start that business Yummie: http://www.dodge.com/ram_hd/model_overview/index.html James Slayden On Sun, 22 Dec 2002, Keith Addison wrote:

Re: [biofuel] Methanol - 5-gal containers

2002-12-23 Thread James Slayden
how about giving me your free sample . ;-) On Tue, 24 Dec 2002, Keith Addison wrote: Keith, You have aroused my curosity, and I have to ask why you say don't try for the free samples ? Greg H. Apologies Greg, pure laziness. I should have written something instead saying

Re: [biofuel] Re: OT - Nation's SUV Critics Are Gaining Traction

2002-12-23 Thread girl mark
CytoCulture in Richmond California has a paper available I think (online also I think) about this subject. Mark At 04:55 AM 12/23/2002 +, you wrote: Well said Hakan. Has anyone done a study of biodiesel and or Veg oil fuels and its affect say in marine boating use? Does either creat

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] Australia puts off imposing cap on ethanol in fuel

2002-12-23 Thread James Slayden
When I lived in Illinois in the late 70's, they had just started selling Gassahol (10%eth, 90%gas), and I started using it. Within 2 months the fuel filter clogged due to the tank clearing. Just replaced the fuel filter and all was well. Didn't seem to be any effect on the rubber parts at all.

[biofuel] Re: Level Playing Fields

2002-12-23 Thread csakima
I think you hit upon something CONSISTENCY. And not just because a certain special interest group happens to be involved. I think that would go a long way to a level playing field. I'm not quite sure what you are referring to me doing something deliberately vs some oversight

[biofuel] Re: Level Playing Fields

2002-12-23 Thread csakima
Whoa Keith!! Now THAT'S another story (but true though). Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] How often does one hear people talking about level playing fields except when it's

Re: [biofuel] A DPV - Dog Powered Vehicle, (Fer Real)

2002-12-23 Thread Steve Spence
I have to share this one with you: http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/oxcart.jpg Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [biofuel] Re: Level Playing Fields

2002-12-23 Thread murdoch
I'm not quite sure what you are referring to me doing something deliberately vs some oversight (). I was just asking a question relating to your perception of how you access this group computer-wise. You see, at some point I posted one of my notes in this thread not only to the

[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] toxins in this season U.S. corn

2002-12-23 Thread Keith Addison
Hi James, MM Of Course, if someone out there in the growing belt gets a clue . ;-O Whisper in their ear James! lemme see make oil, turn into biodiesel, take cake, make into ethanol, use dried mash as heat source for ethanol process, use some of ethanol for biodiesel process, use sun

[biofuel] Fwd: Ethanol and Fuel Filters

2002-12-23 Thread Keith Addison
Randy sent me this, which I didn't know about: Hi Keith a long time ago. When leaded gasoline was still sold under the label 'Regular', the gasoline would leave a varnish inside of the gas tank and fuel lines. High octane gasoline was called Ethyl, because of the additive tetra ethyl

industrial livestock husbandry was: Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] toxins in this season U.S. corn

2002-12-23 Thread girl mark
I;m starting to really get the picture that the jerks (some of them no doubt well-intentioned) who developed America's current model of industrial agriculture had just a little bit of 'playing god' going on. 'Carnivorous' cows? (ie cannibalistic practices in feed) Cows that are fed their own

Re: industrial livestock husbandry was: Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] toxins in this season U.S. corn

2002-12-23 Thread Keith Addison
I;m starting to really get the picture that the jerks (some of them no doubt well-intentioned) who developed America's current model of industrial agriculture had just a little bit of 'playing god' going on. Yes, and they still do (GMOs, eg). As for their intentions, how about this? From the