[biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-05 Thread Curtis Sakima
Frankly, I think Bush himself did 9/11. Ok ... so he did not directly push the button. But IMHO ... he enabled it. and surgically enhanced it. IMHO he WANTED the WTC down (for reasons listed by Dave).So he arranged it to go down. He had DEMOLITION CHARGES set up in it so

Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-05 Thread rico suavae
The Cameo is indeed an art house movie theater.And as such its not too hard to break an attendence record in a venue that seats only 162 people. Rico MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fahrenheit 9/11, a left-sided documentary that bashes the Bush administration's war on terrorism, wouldn't find much

Re: [biofuel] Re: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-05 Thread rico suavae
If you were only right.Iwould like him to do a movie on the governments duplicity in Africa and the Sudan.Or the IRS and their unsupported tyranny against the American people.But he knows which side his bread is buttered on,what is safe and what is likely to be a real challenge to his

Re: [biofuel] Re: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-05 Thread rico suavae
Too true Rico Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, it was the world according to Doonesbury It's too bad that all the people who know how to run the country are too busy back packing. Circa 1984 Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Sam ddd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [biofuel] Re: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-05 Thread rico suavae
I humbly submit that you miss the point of the second half of my statment.To reitrate.He used to be good,he ain't good anymore.He forgot that truth is what made him good not inuendo. Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Chill dude..., You had your chance to complain about that move years ago.

Re: [biofuel] Re: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-05 Thread Colin Little
It's good to know that people like M. Moore still exist. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free!

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread Colin Little
As far as politics go, I think it's futile to debate them: America is too full of distractions like satelite TV, fast food, and things like that. A person is distracted far too often to seriously debate politics for an extended amount of time. People are like rugs: Hang them out a window and

[biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bioveging
Far beit for me to wizzle in your corn flakes, BUT, there is documented proof that the US government had contemplated the use of aircraft as bombs a long time ago. http://www.newsmakingnews.com/shockedcloak6,3,02.htm http://www.geraldplessner.com/articles/article.cgi?doc=20040422165204 4th

[biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bioveging
Also, it is true that NORAD had standing orders to intercept all wayward aircraft and that that had been Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) since the 70's rash of skyjackings; The FEMA Intercept Regs about scambling within minutes of an off course airliner:

[biofuel] Double Batching

2004-07-05 Thread bioveging
G'day; Having pretty much completed my processor and also having found a nice home for it, I have a question for those in the know. I am set up for a single batch lot or with a spare drum I can send tghe finished process to a settling tank and straight away fire up another one. The question

Re: [biofuel] Re: Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-05 Thread Appal Energy
Rico, And I humbly submit that there's more truth in F 9/11 than anything Moore's done before. As he stated in a public letter this week, the facts were vetted endlessly. The opinions and questions are his. And as he puts it 'rightfully so.' Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From:

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread RICHARD BOGRAD
We never miss an election, local or otherwise. Why? - Original Message - From: Benet P. Donnelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 12:31 Subject: RE: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE Seven min would have done what, made you feel better? HOW?I'm

Re: [biofuel] Re: Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-05 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Friends, Although I am responding to this mail of Curtis' it is a general mail to the list in general. Are we not beating a dead horse with this thread? It is obvious that there are strongly held beliefs on all sides about this but has sufficient thought been given to what the

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread Greg Harbican
- Original Message - From: Hakan Falk To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 04:11 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE Greg, You are right in general terms, but to claim that it would be possible that any of the planes could crash where they

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE; human fuel

2004-07-05 Thread Irwin Levinson
Halliluya The rage of those who hated and those who are outraged, about Fahrenheit 9/11 must awaken the the rage of those who called the Vietnam and Korean wars as projects of those administrations that fought and led them. Can it be that the US wars of the 20th Century were constructs of

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread Greg Harbican
You might be right in part: United Airlines flight 585 All it took was a Google search using Colorado Springs, airliner, and crash as the key words. http://www.airdisaster.com/special/special-ua585.shtml NTSB finally ruled it was a rudder problem, but, heart attack and rotor were other

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread Greg Harbican
I have spent the majority of the day at church then at the hospital, just getting home little while ago, and now I'm dealing with the family. Do you think I have nothing better to do, than to answer one subject on one of several list I'm on? I'll get around to giving the answers, as I have

Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-05 Thread MH
A British General's View of Fahrenheit 9/11 General Sir Michael Rose, Former Commander of the UN Protection Force in Bosnia DAILY MAIL (London) / July 1, 2004 http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/mikeinthenews/index.php?id=47 I suspect many soldiers serving in Iraq today will

Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-05 Thread MH
The [U.S.] Army and Air Force Exchange Service, which books films to be shown on military bases around the world, has contacted Fahrenheitâs distributor to book the film, TIME reports. http://www.time.com/time/press_releases/article/0,8599,660927,00.html Moore unfriendly fire bombs Bush

[biofuel] A quick question!

2004-07-05 Thread Colin Little
Hey guys, I'm new to this group and, as you might imagine, to the whole process of making Biodiesel! I'm planning on creating this fuel to benefit the educational facilities of our community and to promote alternative fuel usage in the community, thus creating a community that is more

[biofuel] Spilling Modular Piston Expansion Engine

2004-07-05 Thread tallex2002
interesting. Spilling engine http://www.spilling.de/uk/spillingwerk.htm Spilling Modular Piston Expansion Engine http://www.epcenergy.com/spilling.html regards Get your daily alternative energy news fix http://groups.yahoo.com/group/next_generation_grid/

Re: [biofuel] Westfalia Centrifuge for sale

2004-07-05 Thread pieter van eeten
Hi Pieter, Got in tough with Breustedt last friday they ave me the name of their local distributors near Eindhoven so now I can finally start my first batch! Thanks for the help. You factory is a BD factory? From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To:

[biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread canros_uk
Hello Greg Well, at least you have now read one report of the accident and that report makes no mention of heart attack. I can assure you that the NTSB report also makes no mention of a heart attack. The most important thing from my perspective is that you, when posting, give an impression

Re: [biofuel] Westfalia Centrifuge for sale - Pieter

2004-07-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Pieter Sorry for the delay. The centrifuge is a Westfalia marine oil centrifuge with 1-phase 230V and 415V 3-phase motors, stainless steel disc stack. What are you offering? ___ALL-NEW Yahoo!

[biofuel] generator/refrigerator

2004-07-05 Thread tallex2002
A GENERATOR THAT DOUBLES AS A REFRIGERATOR http://www.napa.ufl.edu/2001news/solar.htm UF professor generates new, cheaper solar energy system http://www.alligator.org/edit/issues/01-spring/010314/b09solar14.htm Optimization of a Novel Combined Power/Refrigeration Thermodynamic Cycle

[biofuel] Re: A quick question!

2004-07-05 Thread bioveging
Good day Colin, and welcome to the list. You will find all the information you need to make BD in small or large quantities at http://www.journeytoforever.org , the site attached to this list. There are numerous very competent people here that can help you with any further questions you will

Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread Hakan Falk
Greg, You are mixing IFR/VFR rules and controlled versus non controlled air space. The check point rules you are talking about are completing a flight to uncontrolled air field / air space and in Sweden the time limit is 30 minutes after landing or reporting point. In this situation you have

[biofuel] Washington DC area: July 11 homebrew class, July 12th get-together after NBB meeting?

2004-07-05 Thread girl mark
Just re-posting some info about the homebrew class four of us are doing next weekend near DC, and also an invite to meet the next day: There's still space in the class, so any of you who can make it 'at the last minute' are welcome to come- just drop me an email so I can keep track of how

[biofuel] Re: How's Come Berkely is the Hot Bed of Forward Thinking.

2004-07-05 Thread bioveging
Well Phil, don't feel too too left out, or too singled out either. When I went around getting contacts for my soon to be BD production and I asked if I could have some of their waste oil it was as though the concept was not just foreign but downright alien. They did authorise me to help myself

Fwd: Schofield - Re: [biofuel] Westfalia Centrifuge for sale - Pieter

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pieter Sorry for the delay. The centrifuge is a Westfalia marine oil centrifuge with 1-phase 230V and 415V 3-phase motors, stainless steel disc stack. What are you offering?

Fwd: Greg - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Incorrect, I reported, what was mentioned at the time of the crash. I never heard what the final report was, and that was probably because I was out of the area at the time it finally came out and I don't think that it

Fwd: Todd - Re: [biofuel] generator/refrigerator

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely superb! And to think that we're still fiddlin' with Crosley's Icyball around here http://www.ggw.org/~cac/IcyBall/crosley_icyball.html http://www.ggw.org/~cac/IcyBall/HomeBuilt/HomeBuilt.html - Original

Fwd: Greg - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lets, think it through. Up to 9/11 hijackers didn't hijack to get a hold of a airliner in order to actually take out a building ( at least in the U.S. ), so why should this be any different than those times other that the

Fwd: Brian - Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I would wait until I had the information before making claims. That way, if anyone questioned my sources, I would have them ready immediately, and not have to research what I claimed as absolute fact in the first place.

Fwd: Greg - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hakan, A question, are you looking at this through the eyes of someone from Europe, where hijackings and terrorism, have been more common place, or through the eyes of someone from the U.S. where they are rare in

Fwd: Greg - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree, that it was a break down from the bottom to the top, but, at least one of the aircraft turned off it's transponder, just before turning around. Air controllers thought it had blown up in mid-air because they were

Fwd: Brian - Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I've been anxiously awaiting this question. I vote in every election in which I can. Primaries, local and national. I have been able to vote in five presidential elections. In these, I have voted for Republican

Fwd: Hakan - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg, No one have ever said it was not a mess and many mistakes done. The only thing I am saying is that many knew that it was hijackings, about one minute after they left the route in the flight plan. This is the system and it

Fwd: Hoagy - Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Filled with probing questions and disturbing footage, Fahrenheit 9/11 covers territory and accusations that may be familiar to many but does a fascinating job of stitching them all together into a critical mass and exposing the

Fwd: Hoagy - Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fahrenheit 9/11 Moore vs Bush FILMS WORTH WATCHING by Robert Alstead They should make a film about Michael Moore's battle to get his latest documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 distributed in the States. What is it about the subject matter

[biofuel] PLEASE READ - MODERATOR'S MESSAGE

2004-07-05 Thread Keith Addison
The Fahrenheit 9/11 - THE HOT MOVIE - Michael Moore thread will now end. Enforcement is likely to be ruthless. Keith Addison List owner Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker.

Fwd: Todd - Enough already Mr. Harbican was Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg, Lets, think it through. How about you do that and everyone else not, because everyone but you already has. It's only you that wants to keep throwing distorted bents amid the facts while intentionally debasing group

Fwd: Hakan - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg, I am looking at this through my eyes (currently only one, LOL), who lived and worked in US and all major West European countries, since I moved out of Sweden 28 years ago. Also visited around 60 more countries, mostly for

Fwd: Phil Dodd - How's Come Berkely is the Hot Bed of Forward Thinking.

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Phil Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sitting here in my south-central pennsylvania funk lamenting the fact that when I talk biodiesel I am looked at like I have 2 heads. Though there is a couple of seminars coming to the Washington D.C. area next week and again in

Fwd: Hakan - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg, I am sorry, but I do not belive that they could turn off the transponder on an air-liner, but maybe they got lost for other reasons. It must have been the Pennsylvania one, who was not in controlled air space. Hakan At

Fwd: Greg - Re: Enough already Mr. Harbican was Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rewrite history? Talk about a fairytale. Yes, you sniped the whole thing, before you even read it or looked at the source ( not that I agree with all that the source had to say ). All I was talking about is possible

Fwd: Greg - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Hakan Falk To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 11:09 Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE Greg, I am sorry, but I do not belive that they could turn

Fwd: Hoagy - Re: [biofuel] Fahrenheit 9/11

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: VCS Gives Fahrenheit 9/11 a Five Star Rating Veterans for Common Sense http://www.michaelmoore.com Posted 6/25/2004 Veterans for Common Sense presents Michael Moore and his film crew and staff with a five star review for his

Fwd: Greg - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I agree with some parts, I think that part of the blame goes to Rumsfield, I have been finding out that he ( Rumsfield ) has been pushing to finish Iraq since the first gulf war, and seems to have been a driving force

Fwd: Greg - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree up to a point, but, that point is what the other planes would do after the first crash, it could have been a mistake by a stupid hijacker ( that thought he knew how to fly ), but, the second crash showed it was not.

Fwd: Todd - Re: Enough already Mr. Harbican was Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Harbican. You are quickly becoming a waste of occupied air space. And this is not the first time that you've exhausted the patience, consumed the energies and wasted the time of many people on this list. You have virtually

Fwd: Greg - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The co-pilot was in communication with the tower, right up to the end. - Original Message - From: canros_uk To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 03:43 Subject: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

Fwd: Greg - Re: Enough already Mr. Harbican was Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Only yours Todd, only yours. I said it once, I'll say it again because you probably sniped it before you read it. I made a mistake of the President getting the news of flight 93 ( which he got back at Air Force One ) and

Fwd: Gustl - Re[2]: Enough already Mr. Harbican was Re: [biofuel]

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Gustl Steiner-Zehender [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo Greg, Monday, 05 July, 2004, 14:46:05, you wrote: GH Only yours Todd, only yours. ...snip... GH Mr. Harbican. You are quickly becoming a waste of occupied air space. And GH this is not the first time

Fwd: Hakan - Re: [biofuel] Re: THE HOT MOVIE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greg, This is an other thing, changing id is normal and always possible. The system should alert on that. Hakan At 19:51 05/07/2004, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Hakan Falk To:

[biofuel] Re: PLEASE READ - MODERATOR'S MESSAGE

2004-07-05 Thread Brian
Keith, I apologize for my part in this. Although I address this directly to you, I do realize tht the apology is owed to the group. Brian --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - was Re: Fahrenheit 9/11 Long, but please read it anyway. -

Fwd: PLEASE READ - MODERATOR'S MESSAGE

2004-07-05 Thread bvjfrs
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - was Re: Fahrenheit 9/11 Long, but please read it anyway. - Thankyou Gustl!!! Happy Happy, hopefully Hallo Friends, Although I am responding to this mail of Curtis' it is a general mail to the list in

Re: [biofuel] generator/refrigerator

2004-07-05 Thread rico suavae
Thanks! I never saw one of these before.When I get time i'm going to try one Rico Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely superb! And to think that we're still fiddlin' with Crosley's Icyball around here http://www.ggw.org/~cac/IcyBall/crosley_icyball.html

Re: [biofuel] PLEASE READ - MODERATOR'S MESSAGE

2004-07-05 Thread Kim Garth Travis
Thank you Keith, for the first time on this list, I have been using the delete button constantly. Bright Blessings, Kim At 02:40 PM 7/5/2004, you wrote: - was Re: Fahrenheit 9/11 Long, but please read it anyway. I very much hope this generates some discussion at least here. I can tell you