[Biofuel] lye supply

2005-10-27 Thread Evergreen Solutions
Our cooperative here just made arrangements for continuing, large scale NaOH delivery from a large chemical supply company. As an effort to share this with the community, we're prepared to offer it to homebrewers for $2 a pound plus shipping (and shipping is apparently about $6 most of the

Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor

2005-10-27 Thread Kurt Nolte
Totally Enclosed Fan Cooled - TEFC.If you follow link on my originalpost, the pump displayed has a motor attached to looks generally like a TEFC motor.I don't know that it is though. Ah. I figured it was something Fan-Cooled but I figured TE stood for something technical and electrical in

[Biofuel] Measuring tools...

2005-10-27 Thread Michael Luich
I'd rather not get beaker etc on line. I'm thinking craft stores but it hasn't worked out so well so far. Mike Luich ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org

Re: [Biofuel] Starting at Square One

2005-10-27 Thread Ed Hall
Food for thought. I have a '79 Rabbit. I recently put in an ammeter mostly out of curiosity and because I had one lay'n around. The bolts that hold the alternator bracket to the block broke off one night (non-spec bolts + cyclic fatigue over time). The alternator is the belt tensioner for

Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor

2005-10-27 Thread Doug Foskey
Generally pump motors are 2 pole: meaning they spin twice as fast as 4 pole motors, hence half the torque. Washing machine motors are usually 4 pole. regards Doug On Thursday 27 October 2005 3:49, Ken Dunn wrote: On 10/26/05, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Totally Enclosed Fan

Re: [Biofuel] A new website

2005-10-27 Thread Doug Foskey
But you must agree that it is moving from a boat that leaks like a sieve to a boat that needs an occasional bale?? I find now I get extremely frustrated at work where I must use the M$ systems: because I cannot multi task as easily as on my home system. (And I have occasionally had over 60

Re: [Biofuel] A new website

2005-10-27 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Unfortunately, there are too many specialized engineering software packages that I use every day that can only operate under windows (often they are even picky about the version of windows) for me to consider Linux. If it was just web browsing, spreadsheets, word processing, and the like, I'd

Re: [Biofuel] A new website

2005-10-27 Thread Jeromie Reeves
My win2k box runs Firefox with 100+ at times with little issue aside Firefox's memory leak. Windows (any ver) used by someone who has little to no clue how to secure it and make it purr along will result in what we have: Massive network issues from worms, Fraud, and Theft. I personally welcome

Re: [Biofuel] A new website

2005-10-27 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Have you tried Wine? What about VMWare and windows? Ive found that VMware helps a bunch when the client OS likes to crash alot. The base system will remain stable. I assume you never found a OSS verison of the software your needing, or that it doesnt interoperate with what others are using?

Re: [Biofuel] Scientific method- Easy Keith!

2005-10-27 Thread Michael Redler
"It seems you are intent on grouping all Americans as one." Yes, It looks that way, doesn't it? So, I will explain. Usually, I try not to generalize because it leaves out a lot of information and can be manipulated to align itself with a particularagenda. However, on those occasions when I say

Re: [Biofuel] A new website

2005-10-27 Thread Rafal Szczesniak
On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 03:08:26PM -0600, Zeke Yewdall wrote: Unfortunately, there are too many specialized engineering software packages that I use every day that can only operate under windows (often they are even picky about the version of windows) for me to consider Linux. Yes, I'm in

Re: [Biofuel] Scientific method- Easy Keith!

2005-10-27 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Sometimes I wonder if the rest of the world understands that all americans don't support GW and his policies though... After all, we claim to be a democracy, so therefore, shouldn't the government by nature reflect the will of it's people. In reality, only my congressional representative

Re: [Biofuel] Grass for fuel

2005-10-27 Thread Jason and Katie
having read this article, i seem to be missing some of the math... this miscanthus is a rhizome, correct? and like other rhizomes (i.e. strawberries) there is a good sized chunk of sugars and other carbon based items stored in the root/stem system, also correct? so that would imply that it STORES

Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor

2005-10-27 Thread Derick Giorchino
There is a router speed controller in harbor freight when it on sale that is most of the time it is inexpensive and works quite well I have used it with a small high speed motor from a 110v wench that I luvjoyed to a week hydraulic pump. I found that the motor was so fast it wanted to spit out

Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor

2005-10-27 Thread Derick Giorchino
There is a router speed controller in harbor freight when it on sale that is most of the time it is inexpensive and works quite well I have used it with a small high speed motor from a 110v wench that I luvjoyed to a week hydraulic pump. I found that the motor was so fast it wanted to spit out

Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor

2005-10-27 Thread bob allen
Derick Giorchino wrote: snip from a 110v wench whoopee, she sounds like fun. -- Bob Allen http://ozarker.org/bob Science is what we have learned about how to keep from fooling ourselves - Richard Feynman ___ Biofuel mailing list

Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor

2005-10-27 Thread Ken Dunn
On 10/26/05, Derick Giorchino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a router speed controller in harbor freight when it on sale that is most of the time it is inexpensive and works quite well It doesn't look like Harbor Freight is offer that item right now. I see that some other sites are

Re: [Biofuel] A new website

2005-10-27 Thread Jeromie Reeves
snip If it was just web browsing, spreadsheets, word processing, and the like, I'd get rid of windows in a heartbeat. I've already dumped IE and outlook. Indeed. You can already switch to safer and open replacements of web browser and mail reader as well as office suite (especially with

Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor

2005-10-27 Thread Keith Addison
On 10/26/05, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Totally Enclosed Fan Cooled - TEFC. If you follow link on my original post, the pump displayed has a motor attached to looks generally like a TEFC motor. I don't know that it is though. Yes it is. More info here:

Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor

2005-10-27 Thread Derick Giorchino
Sorry I mean winch. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob allen Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 5:54 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor Derick Giorchino wrote: snip from a

Re: [Biofuel] Measuring tools..XX.

2005-10-27 Thread Buck Williams
search vwr supply, buck From: Michael Luich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Measuring tools... Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 14:33:28 -0400 Any one have any idea's where i can go to look for measuring devices in new england.

Re: [Biofuel] Measuring tools..XX.

2005-10-27 Thread Buck Williams
From: Buck Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Measuring tools..XX. Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:30:51 -0700 you cann do coleparmer, or vanwater and rogersss, catalongs are easy,, or search vwr supply, buck

Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor

2005-10-27 Thread Ken Dunn
Keith said: Frankly, Ken, I'm not that interested in whether it could or not. Improvise, sure, go ahead, best of good luck and all, but motors are common enough aren't they? Why not just use a motor? Well, while motors are common enough buying the motor off the shelf instead of the pump will

[Biofuel] Testing for Purity of KOH

2005-10-27 Thread Rob Rogers
This weekend I will be attempting to use KOH instead of Lye. I got a deal on a 50 lb bag of KOH but I don't know what the purity is. I'm not sure how to titrate to determine the purity so here is what I am going to try. I'll make 3 batches, Batch 1 I will assume 99% pure and use 4.9 grams, batch

Re: [Biofuel] Starting at Square One

2005-10-27 Thread Evergreen Solutions
exactly picture what you're looking at, since I replaced the waterpump and all related belts. I personally retrofitted my own bracket mount anyway, because the one that was there was WAY bigger than necessary. Also, when I bought a new belt (mine fell off sometime and no, no indicator light

Re: [Biofuel] Testing for Purity of KOH

2005-10-27 Thread Appal Energy
Rob, Is this a good way to determine the purity? It's a good way to determine a baseline for your 50# bag. For all practical intents and purposes, that's what you want. See http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#stockmeth and See

Re: [Biofuel] lye supply

2005-10-27 Thread Jason and Katie
my name is now officially "people" Hi all, I cleared this with Keith, so please be advised it is NOT an ad.Our cooperative here just made arrangements for continuing, large scale NaOH delivery from a large chemical supply company. As an effort to share this with the community, we're

Re: [Biofuel] A new website

2005-10-27 Thread Doug Foskey
Rafal, congratulations on being part of the Samba team! I am constantly amazed how many Biodiesel list members are involved with Open Source software. A comment to others on Linux: there is now a move by the major Linux developers to standardise the way that Linux is seen by programs, so the

Re: [Biofuel] lye supply

2005-10-27 Thread Doug Foskey
This sounds like an outright lye!! regards Doug On Thursday 27 October 2005 3:17, Jason and Katie wrote: my name is now officially people Hi all, I cleared this with Keith, so please be advised it is NOT an ad. ___ Biofuel mailing list

Re: [Biofuel] Grass for fuel

2005-10-27 Thread MH
Jason and Katie wrote: having read this article, i seem to be missing some of the math... this miscanthus is a rhizome, correct? and like other rhizomes (i.e. strawberries) there is a good sized chunk of sugars and other carbon based items stored in the root/stem system, also correct? so

[Biofuel] Electric eraser was: Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor

2005-10-27 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, Thank you so much for this idea. I do have an electric eraser and it certainly is much quieter that the drill for small test batches. I will inform Garth he needs a new rod that is the right size for his stirrer, then I can stand being home while he plays. Last night Garth

Re: [Biofuel] lye supply

2005-10-27 Thread Evergreen Solutions
As for:On 10/27/05, Doug Foskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This sounds like an outright lye!! regards Doug I did email keith separately several days ago to get his permission. We're not making money on this proposition, I'm just trying to share, if you're got your own supply or are afraid of

Re: [Biofuel] Scientific method- Easy Keith!

2005-10-27 Thread Joe Street
Amen Mike, Amen. And please don't appologise to Canadians when you use the term American because we ARE american in both senses of that word for all intents and purposes. I was shocked and amazed when Jean Cretien (our former prime minister) decided to go with the voice of sanity and not back

Re: [Biofuel] A new website

2005-10-27 Thread Mike Weaver
Keep asking for Linux version when you talk to your rep. I do with my clients on Camworks and so on. LSB is a step in the right direction. Now, who wants to leap into the Debian Geetoo Progeny roll your own question! Doug Foskey wrote: Rafal, congratulations on being part of the Samba

[Biofuel] People of the lye

2005-10-27 Thread Mike Weaver
Dear People, where are you? I am always looking for new lyes; I am tired of the old ones. Mike W Jason and Katie wrote: my name is now officially people Hi all, I cleared this with Keith, so please be advised it is NOT an ad. Our cooperative here just made arrangements for

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread Joe Street
Well time for a new thread I guess cause we are a long way off topic. I think you are right Zeke it's hard not to draw certain conclusions about the people who put these monsters in office. The problem is it's like going shopping. You think you have choice but then you find out your money goes

Re: [Biofuel] Starting at Square One

2005-10-27 Thread Mike Weaver
Twicky Wabbit As I recall, those things bear a good cooling system flush frequently aw well... Ed Hall wrote: Food for thought. I have a '79 Rabbit. I recently put in an ammeter mostly out of curiosity and because I had one lay'n around. The bolts that hold the alternator bracket to

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread Zeke Yewdall
What if we had a voting sytem like American Idol, where people can text message their votes every night Sort of scary. But is it scarier to think of a democracy where the average person could vote on each issue, or one where as many people follow TV shows as care about their actual

Re: [Biofuel] Starting at Square One

2005-10-27 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Ah.. My '91 rabbit isn't even running yet. Currently the car's in the driveway, and the rebuilt engine's on the garage floor... But with luck, it'll be up and running on waste veggie oil in a few more weeks, or months (3 months and counting so far) On 10/27/05, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Biofuel] Democracy

2005-10-27 Thread Mike Weaver
viz straight represetative democracy - be careful what you wish for. If Saudi Arabia had a pure representational system they'd wind up with a far more radical Wahab state. Look at California's referendum system - it's out of control. It's created an ungovernable state. Looks at Arizona's

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread Paul S Cantrell
It would still favor the richer people, unless the poor were well organized and voted in blocks. The minority has protections in the Constitution. The representative Republic we have in the US was setup by rich landowners for rich landowners and it hasn't changed that terribly much since then.

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread Joe Street
Zeke; A democratic system modelled after a TV show. That is just perfect. Why not? (shakes head sadly) TV is the basis for everything almost it seems. Well as long as a large percentage of people vote it might be good. (I invite criticizm here please) The larger the voting population the

Re: [Biofuel] Democracy

2005-10-27 Thread Joe Street
Mike Weaver wrote: viz straight represetative democracy - be careful what you wish for. If Saudi Arabia had a pure representational system they'd wind up with a far more radical Wahab state. Look at California's referendum system - it's out of control. It's created an ungovernable state.

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread Joe Street
Paul S Cantrell wrote: It'd be the best reality TV show yet! American Idol: The West Wing...Yes, Very Scary! It would still favor the richer people, unless the poor were well organized and voted in blocks. The minority has protections in the Constitution. The representative

Re: [Biofuel] Democracy

2005-10-27 Thread Zeke Yewdall
An interesting case in point is the small town that I'm moving to. Back in the 70's they set up their own participatory democracy (not a representative democracy), and basically succeeded from county control. They have their own building department, water board, etc. Only 60 some people live

Re: [Biofuel] Democracy

2005-10-27 Thread Zeke Yewdall
viz straight represetative democracy - be careful what you wish for. If Saudi Arabia had a pure representational system they'd wind up with a far more radical Wahab state. Well, that would not be so good for the US I agree. But are you saying that a dictatorship is better than a

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread Chip Mefford
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul S Cantrell wrote: The last 2 elections would have probably gone the other way if it were simple majority. I think the concerns over time zones and the like could be worked out and we might have more than 2 twin parties. Personally, I think

Re: [Biofuel] lye supply

2005-10-27 Thread Bobby Clark
Include me in the interested group. Bobby Clark From: Evergreen Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] lye supply Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 13:53:27 -0400 Hi all, I cleared this with Keith, so please be advised it is

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread Paul S Cantrell
Personally, I think some simple changes would fix a lot of whatis currently borked in the US political system. Debates forinstance, pretty much all public debating (meaning televised)is done of, by and for the Twin Partys. This should cease immediately. This much of the system process would

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread Mike Weaver
What debates? No one debates. The moderator pitches one question, which is ignored, and the candidates answers another in general platitudes. There is no debate. Paul S Cantrell wrote: Chip, On 10/27/05, *Chip Mefford* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor

2005-10-27 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Ken Keith said: Frankly, Ken, I'm not that interested in whether it could or not. Improvise, sure, go ahead, best of good luck and all, but motors are common enough aren't they? Why not just use a motor? Well, while motors are common enough buying the motor off the shelf instead of

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread Keith Addison
What if we had a voting sytem like American Idol, where people can text message their votes every night Sort of scary. But is it scarier to think of a democracy where the average person could vote on each issue, Lots of arguments about that in the past. Typical American answer: There is

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread robert luis rabello
Mike Weaver wrote: What debates? No one debates. The moderator pitches one question, which is ignored, and the candidates answers another in general platitudes. There is no debate. I agree. Compare the quality of the debate between Nixon and Kennedy with the most recent

Re: [Biofuel] Still looking for a cheap TEFC motor

2005-10-27 Thread Ken Dunn
Keith said: I think free motors should be common enough too, lots of things you can salvage a motor from, some might be TEFC. What gets junked that uses TEFC motors but it's not usually the motor failing that gets it junked? I've been considering the exact same question. I haven't come up

[Biofuel] Biediesel shelf life.

2005-10-27 Thread Rob Rogers
What is the shelf life of BD? Can I make 6 months of fuel at a time? ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

Re: [Biofuel] Oil and democracy -was-Scientific method

2005-10-27 Thread Joe Street
Or compared to the political debates of a hundred years ago when people would come out and sit for hours to listen to debates. Neil Postman talks about this in his book Amusing ourselves to death. Joe robert luis rabello wrote: Mike Weaver wrote: What debates? No one debates.

[Biofuel] Liquid-liquid separator

2005-10-27 Thread Rumen Slavov
Hi,all, It seems I can get a new toy-a navy fuel purificator,which is a kind of centrifuge,used to separate water from the fuel. Has anyone have an idea how to use the separator in the BD processing?Is it suitable for filtering the WVO?Can I use it to avoid settling periods or even