Re: [Biofuel] Adding SVO to petro diesel (lubricity issue)

2005-12-05 Thread jhundert
Dana, On the following link, there's a paper published by the Sask. Canola Devleopment Commission about veggie-additives. The researcher is noticeably conservative with his percentages, however, it's a good read nonetheless. http://www.scdc.sk.ca/html/rese_fs.html No matter where you

Re: [Biofuel] jatropha curcas

2005-12-05 Thread doug
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Isabel I heard today that castor beans are an excellent source of biodiesel. Does anyone know if this is true? Marilyn I can't say what the transesterification might affect in castor oil, but on another list I subscribe to, (clocks) the gentlemen who have cleaned

Re: [Biofuel] jatropha curcas

2005-12-05 Thread lres1
Maybe some one there can help here as well. There are or seem to be two thoughts on the growing of Physic nut/Jatropha Curcas. One is that the Asian variety has a Carcinogenic property producing cells in skin tissue from contact with the plant or some parts thereof. The second is that the

Re: [Biofuel] Your Tax dollars at work

2005-12-05 Thread Mike Weaver
Sorry about that - if I want to go over to dark side I think I'd be good at it, no? Oh well. NO fear of that! JJJN wrote: Sheesh, Ok jokes on me, (giggle) goodness sakes if it didn't just sound so much like what Rush or Rove or one of those Preachers for hire would say though. Should have

Re: [Biofuel] jatropha curcas

2005-12-05 Thread Mike Weaver
Iresearched it - it was feasible from a theoretical point of view - has anyone tried it? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Isabel I heard today that castor beans are an excellent source of biodiesel. Does anyone know if this is true? Marilyn Biofuel@sustainablelists.org wrote: Note: Forwarded

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-05 Thread Mike Weaver
We would be an adjuct to what already exists. I will say that one thing I would put on a BD advocacy website would be a guide to laws, federal and local, as well as a How-to on setting up a BD co-op. Any attorneys on this list? Kenji James Fuse wrote: The NBB does do some of this advocacy,

Re: [Biofuel] Soybean based biodiesel

2005-12-05 Thread Mike Weaver
I had wreckers gumming up w/ algae 20 years ago on pure dino diesel. Keith Addison wrote: The aspen Times is carrying a story about problems with buses running on 5% bio diesel mixture. Is it normal to have your fuel tank etc. clogged up with a green algae substance, or has it to do with the

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-05 Thread Mike Weaver
Arggh. I have no illusions that I would be getting anything out of this, much less a full time paycheck out of this. I already have a job. I own a business. I do IT consulting for mostly broke non-profits whose causes I happen to believe in. I could make triple what I make now working for

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-05 Thread Mike Weaver
mandatory So don't join. Garth Kim Travis wrote: Greetings, So does JTF, I have given money to them. There is a difference between a voluntary donation and a manditory charge to be a member. I do support many of the organizations that I work with but when I choose to. Bright Blessings,

Re: [Biofuel] BD Advocacy Group in US

2005-12-05 Thread Mike Weaver
I know. I guess I'm just wondering what I might be getting myself into. I already have a pet renewable energy group that takes up a huge amount of time and it seems like all they do is complain I don't do more! I've lived around DC for years and I know how things work here. If it was money

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-05 Thread Joe Street
I think I lit the fuse on this thread but I'm just glad it is still burning! :-) I would also volunteer to run a similar thing here in Canada. Originally my idea was just a kind of registry on my website which is sponsored by the university I work for. My idea was that cars registered on my

[Biofuel] Renewables in India

2005-12-05 Thread balajit
Hello Keith, Pan and all, Apologies for my long silence and less than quick responses to some earlier posts, particularly on abiogenic petroleum, which need further research. I hope to soon make amends. It has been pouring whole lakeful(l)s on Chennai this season and the past week has been one

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-05 Thread Darryl McMahon
Joe, I think there is some merit to this. Certainly a description of the rules that do exist (and proposed as we become aware of them) for each jurisdiction with Canada would be useful. It's something I had in mind for the Ottawa co-op when I lent the greendiesel.com URL to them. Perhaps we

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-05 Thread Michael Redler
"stick it to the man"Yes!If people won't participate in government and it results in only half of the electorate picking one of the most powerful political offices in the world,it requires a revolution by those who see the imbalance of power, the epidemic of corruption and nationalist

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-05 Thread Thomas Kelly
Joe, Thanks for the offer.Would the car registration be limited to Canadian residents? Tom - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2006 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate

Re: [Biofuel] jatropha curcas

2005-12-05 Thread martin roozenburg
Jatropha is big in India, even Mercedes has a 9000 hectares plot with cultivated Jatropha, in Senegal is D1 from England with 20.000 hectares and in Tanzania there is Tanlapia with 18.000 hectares.Regards, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iresearched it - it was feasible from a

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-05 Thread Joe Street
Excellent Darryl; Thanks for the post. I'll talk to the alt fuels group here at UW and see what I can find out about what the research title affords them. I know the solar car for example does not even require a license to be driven on the road. I welcome your input from your experience with

Re: [Biofuel] jatropha curcas

2005-12-05 Thread martin roozenburg
No myth, there is a non-edible specie, growing in the tropics in the wild and a edible specie coming from S-America, both are used a lot, the advantage for the non toxic is that the cake can be used to feed the animals, while the toxic one is used for fertilising, and fuel in the form of brickets,

Re: [Biofuel] jatropha curcas

2005-12-05 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Isabel Hi Keith It seems as if you don't think it is a good idea to use Jatropha as a source to produce bio diesel from? I think whether it's a good idea or not depends entirely on the immediate context of where you're planning to grow it. One of the replies you got warned you against the

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-12-05 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Dermot That's all?? Umph. Hardly worth the effort. Hi Keith, Thanks for the reply. I'm puzzled by: My point is that IF we can tolerate this diet that we should because it is unethical to kill sentient creatures for no good reason. ANIMALS HAVE RIGHTS. Just because they are dumb doesn't

Re: [Biofuel] jatropha curcas

2005-12-05 Thread Keith Addison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Isabel I heard today that castor beans are an excellent source of biodiesel. Does anyone know if this is true? Marilyn I can't say what the transesterification might affect in castor oil, but on another list I subscribe to, (clocks) the gentlemen who have

Re: [Biofuel] jatropha curcas

2005-12-05 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Isabel I heard today that castor beans are an excellent source of biodiesel. Does anyone know if this is true? Marilyn Er... http://snipurl.com/kia1 biofuel - Search results for 'castor' 255 matches Eg: Brasil is going ahead with great biodiesel project in large scale production such

Re: [Biofuel] Cat question was Re: Lay low in the high grass

2005-12-05 Thread Zeke Yewdall
I assume your talking about the actual fish meat, not some processed catfood called tuna which may or may actually include real fish. I'm not sure where a tuna would get ash, living out in the ocean. Now, tuna does have alot of mercury, due to being high up on the food chain -- look at the FDA

Re: [Biofuel] Cat question was Re: Lay low in the high grass

2005-12-05 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
Hi Kim I do give my cats tuna but I give them such a variety of foods and it's rarely ever just straight. Right now, at least 2 of my clients are avid hunters, and I have a freezer full of venison .. just about all the stew meat and ground meat that has come from at least 4 deer .. I'm not a

Re: [Biofuel] Cat question was Re: Lay low in the high grass

2005-12-05 Thread bob allen
robert luis rabello wrote: Garth Kim Travis wrote: The question I have is about the theory of tuna and cats. The theory is that there is an excess amount of ash in tuna and that it can cause renal failure in middle aged cats. It is not suppose to make any difference if it was canned

Re: [Biofuel] Cat question was Re: Lay low in the high grass

2005-12-05 Thread robert luis rabello
bob allen wrote: at no small cost I might add. But is the extra cost (science diet) justified? I've never known a cat to live as long as she did (I got her when she was a little over a year old, and she lived with me for 16 years). A 9 kilo bag of Science Diet lasts about a month

[Biofuel] Seperating glycerine

2005-12-05 Thread john owens
Message: 2Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 03:26:52 +0100From: Bioclaire Nederland [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Biofuel] seperating Glycerine mistake ! To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Thanks Pieter for the explanationit explains

Re: [Biofuel] Cat question was Re: Lay low in the high grass

2005-12-05 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
Ok, now I'm having to really dig back into my memory here. There is something like 5 companies that basically control the distribution of food world wide .. each and every single one of those 5 companies have pet food subsidiaries. These companies have contracts to purchase produce directly

Re: [Biofuel] Cat question was Re: Lay low in the high grass

2005-12-05 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Uuugh. Gotta love rendering plants There's one about 50 miles NE of where I live. Usually the wind blows the other way, but when it turns around, it stinks... When we raised rabbits, we would leave the extra parts up on the hillside after butchering them, and they'd be gone by the next

Re: [Biofuel] Cat question was Re: Lay low in the high grass

2005-12-05 Thread robert luis rabello
Marylynn Schmidt wrote: big snip of relevant background content Rendering places whole animals and animal parts into a big grinding machine that actually grinds until it's liquid .. a big pile of brown stinking liquid that smells for miles and miles around a rendering plant. Companies

Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley farming

2005-12-05 Thread Ken Dunn
On 11/30/05, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings Ken That was a real pleasure to read, thankyou. You're quite welcome. Your food shed, that's great! Footprints and food sheds. I wish I had coined the term but, my best buddy uses the phrase regularly and I'm pretty sure that he

[Biofuel] PLEASE READ - was Re: US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-05 Thread Keith Addison
The branch of this thread concerning Mike Weaver's proposal to start a paid-membership advocacy group is now closed, see my previous message. No further discussion on this please. Thankyou. Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ Biofuel list owner

[Biofuel] Biofuels lobbying efforts - re: Guvmint meddling

2005-12-05 Thread Jim Worthy
Hello everyone, I am a novice BD maker and have been lurking on the list for a few months now. Thanks to you all for lively discussions of useful topics and actionable information. On the topic of lobbying efforts and government relations in general, Keith's cautionary post struck a chord with

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-05 Thread Keith Addison
Mike snip Frankly, I'm amazed at the amount of flak that has shown up from *this* side of the aisle. There's no aisle here. I haven't noticed you contributing anything other than negative comments. Seems you didn't catch him on a bad day Kim. What are you trying to say Mike? Kim has

Re: [Biofuel] US Guvmint to tax alternate fuel vehicles?

2005-12-05 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Mike Sorry I haven't managed to reply to this before now, I really hope you didn't take my silence as concurrence, because it was anything but concurrence. We had another biodiesel seminar here yesterday, two days' hard work as usual with setting it all up, we've had more people here

Re: [Biofuel] Cat question was Re: Lay low in the high grass

2005-12-05 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, I am speaking of the actual fish meat, but when questions the girl who lost her cat was using a tuna cat food, although she swears it looked and tasted just like a can of fish. My cat also eats raw rabbit, chicken and emu, but he does prefer fish. Now I am able to get sardines, in

Re: [Biofuel] Cat question was Re: Lay low in the high grass

2005-12-05 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Thanks Mary Lyn, I too feed a variety, but mine comes from whatever we are butchering on the farm. Sir Kitty Kitty is a picky eater. He will not eat pork, goat, or catfish. No offal, no matter what animal it came from. Eggs only with cottage cheese, etc. However, I have found that if I

Re: [Biofuel] jatropha curcas

2005-12-05 Thread balajit
Hello Doug, Isabel, Edible provenances of Jatropha curcas from Veracruz and Quintana Roo States of Mexico were investigated by Makkar, Becker and Schmook of the University of Hohenheim and found to be non toxic to humans after roasting. Phorbol esters, the major toxic constituents of

[Biofuel] Cuts to the Environment

2005-12-05 Thread Michael Redler
Does anyone see anything positive on the right?Mike __ Cuts to Clean Water State Revolving Fund (amount the state will lose after taking inflation into account)Source: http://www.nationalpriorities.org/ Alabama -$3,277,000

Re: [Biofuel] Cat question was Re: Lay low in the high grass

2005-12-05 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 10:57:35 -0800 Marylynn Schmidt wrote: So, to play devil's advocate (or maybe God's advocate, depending on your point of view) for a moment: What would be the problem with a

Re: [Biofuel] Cat question was Re: Lay low in the high grass

2005-12-05 Thread Garth Kim Travis
Greetings, Actually 20 to 25 is closer to normal for a cat to live except in case of accident. I have a friend whose old cat is now 28, but he is old. Animals that live in the wild and dine on the sick and diseased prey, do sometimes die from what made their prey sick. One of my dogs is half

Re: [Biofuel] Cat question was Re: Lay low in the high grass

2005-12-05 Thread robert luis rabello
Marylynn Schmidt wrote: A PREY ANIMAL THAT IS KILLED BY A PREDATOR WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE A SICK ANIMAL .. IT COULD BE YOUNG .. IT COULD BE OLD .. IT COULD BE INJURED. IF, ON OCCASION EATING A SICK ANIMAL, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE WOULD HAVE A GREAT LASTING EFFECT IF

Re: [Biofuel] Cat question was Re: Lay low in the high grass

2005-12-05 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
First I need to explain something very important to me. I read a variety of publications from a variety of different lists covering a variety of different fields .. these fields, naturally are the fields that are of interest to me. My own personal opinion is that when I see and hear different

Re: [Biofuel] Preheating heat source - BriteLyt?

2005-12-05 Thread Mike Weaver
Just got a Britelyt today. Haven't been able to get it to light on BD but I think it may be due to the fuel being too cold. Will report back if I get it going. Ken Dunn wrote: What is everyone using as a heat source for preheating? I'm thinking about buying the BriteLyt mentioned on JtF.

Re: [Biofuel] Cat question was Re: Lay low in the high grass

2005-12-05 Thread Greg and April
- Original Message - From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 18:56 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Cat question was Re: Lay low in the high grass Marylynn Schmidt wrote: HOW MANY MACDONALDS HAMBURGERS HAS THE AVERAGE