[Biofuel] Keith Olberman lays it on the Dems & our misguided Decider.

[Kirk McLoren]

  

Keith Olberman lays it on the Dems & our misguided Decider. (video, 
approx 7 minutes)
  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18831132/


   
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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation

[Dawie Coetzee]

The threat to finish Eastern Boulevard crops up from time to time. One of the 
guys I work for is involved with a group that stopped that the last time. Can't 
get them to demolish the incomplete ends of the flyover, though - nor the 
viaduct over the foreshore: you know, under which the Modulor Men have picnics 
in architectural renderings.

I don't know if you've heard of the Gallows Hill debacle. A big developer 
bought a block of mainly industrial buildings in Green Point, near my office, 
hoping to knock them down and build a block of luxury apartments in their 
place. In the course of demolitions and excavations, unmarked graves were 
discovered. The city called archaeologists in, the developer sat and fumed for 
a year, the skeletons were dated to the late 17th century, believed to be those 
of executed criminals, runaway slaves, and the extremely poor. So, in keeping 
with our new-found decency, an ossuary is now being built opposite St Andrews 
in Buitengracht to their memory. In the course of that exercise, part of the 
old Somerset Road tram-line was exposed. I walk past there every day, and it 
almost looks like the rails are going to be incorporated as part of the museum. 
I'd rather have them incorporated as part of a tram-line.

But the ossuary site is right plumb spang in the middle of the strip of land 
that was cleared for the motorway link over Kloofnek to Camps Bay: another nail 
in that coffin, and about time. -D


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Do they still think Solly Morris was such a great guy for building 
all those motorways in the 60s?

Keith

>I think we need to rethink not so much the car as our pattern of 
>transport needs and facilities. Granted, it isn't something that one 
>person can implement unless they've got some practical authority: 
>but if we live in places that claim to be democratic, the people who 
>have got some practical authority are susceptible to public 
>pressure, at least in theory. It doesn't preclude rethinking the 
>car, but it's another important process. And it's no use putting it 
>off because I can't build a city on my own. If the process doesn't 
>begin somewhere it just won't begin at all.
>
>So, one of these days I'm going to have a battle on my hands to get 
>the City of Cape Town to allow me to build a house suitable for a 
>pedestrian way of living (or at least if a few of my neighbours see 
>the point and do the same) in a neighbourhood and a city designed to 
>be barely accessible except by car. It's another way.
>
>But greasy-fingered EVs are cool.
>
>-D
>
>- Original Message 
>From: Darryl McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>Sent: Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 5:36:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time 
>Historical Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation
>
>Ah, yes.  Wildman Rod rides again!  The Ford coupe is a beauty, if a tad
>impractical for most applications.
>
>I think we need to rethink the car before we try to open source it.  My
>idea for a plug-in electric hybrid (biodiesel) has been picked up by
>someone else with more resources and I hope to see the initial results
>on Saturday.  Rumour has it a book will also come from the exercise (not
>by me).  
>
>However, we do need to revisit what we really need from a car today,
>because I don't think the Ford Excursion fits the bill.  How about
>quadricycles that can travel at urban speeds (up to 50 km/h), utilizing
>a combination of human and electric power?  Or the Twike?  Lot's of
>other light-weighting options.  Less resources to construct and operate,
>no toxic emissions in operation (well almost; there will be some CO2
>GHGs from the breathing of the operators).
>
>By comparison, the Smart is a fuel-guzzling pig boasting excessive
>performance.
>
>I have my vintage motorcycle operational again, thanks to my son's
>efforts.  A 1973 Aurenthetic Charger.
>(http://www.econogics.com/e 
>v/auranthe.htm)
>Factory original electric mini-motorcycle.  Gets almost 50 km to the
>kWh.  
>
>Much better than the road-racer 1973 electric Porsche 914 that pigs out
>at 5 km to the kWh.  (If I did the math right, that's about 185 mpg, so
>the motorcycle is getting well over 1500 mpg.  According to this article
>in Grist 
><http://evco.ca/electrathon/ind 
>ex.html>, walking gets about 75
>mpg equivalent.  An electric-assist bicycle would get about 3000 mpg
>equivalent.)  Tilled the garden on the weekend with an electric tractor.
>Just bought a small, cordless electric rototiller for my mother - she
>loves it.
>
>Gasoline is only expensive if you use it.  Go electric and green your
>electricity.  Buy locally.  We know the answers, the rest i

Re: [Biofuel] Weed seeds and manure piles

[Keith Addison]

Hi Tom

Ten days later, sorry. :-(

>Keith,
>Glad to hear from you on this one.

:-) How could I not?

> > I think composting in typical manure piles is a bit of a
> > contradiction in terms.
>
> Maybe so.

With some exceptions, and you can usually find one or two, but it 
seems to be the general rule. Despite all attempts at reform over the 
last 70 years or so.

We've used cowdung here that we've brought in, from a small 
operation, compared with most, 40 beef cattle, but it's a lot of 
dung. It's handled quite well though. The beef is for a quality food 
outlet, local, and it's run by one old farmer from the villages here. 
I don't see much to criticise there, the beasts are healthy, 
well-housed, fed on hay with some grazing every day, the bedding is 
wood shavings and it's cleared out every day with a small loader, and 
stacked under a roof. It gets a bit hot and steams away but it's not 
exactly composting. It doesn't kill worms. He dumps half a ton of the 
stuff with his loader into the bed of our K-truck, it takes a couple 
of minutes, then it takes us an hour or two to shovel it all off 
again into a bin when we get back home.

When we first moved from Osaka (city) to Ichijima (village) we 
visited I think eight cattle farms that were producing high-quality 
milk and dairy (not flash-pasteurised, not homogenised), but in all 
cases the manure was disgusting. The stuff we finally did get wasn't 
fresh, but it killed worms anyway. VOAs and VFAs, hydrogen sulphide, 
phosgene and so on, the inimical stuff you're checking for when you 
test allegedly finished compost with cress seeds - if they don't 
germinate it's not ready. Quicker to see if it kills worms or not 
(can be a bit tough on the worms though). Still, we could make quite 
good compost with that cowdung, once it was cured it didn't kill 
worms.

That's been the case about everywhere I've been. Usually the manure 
is in bad condition.

> When I first put in the garden many years ago, my neighbor, a dairy
>farmer told me to help myself to mounds of rotted cow manure. He spread
>manure on hay fields and corn fields during the winter and spring, but made
>the mounds all summer and fall. He also told me of an old (possibly before
>the age of plastics) horse barn that was small, but had quite a bit of
>manure in it.
> Both sources were hardly well-managed, but the rotted manure was
>beautiful. The tops of the mounds apparently drained well. It was only as I
>got to the lower, soggy level did it become offensive.

I've used stuff like that, not bad if you can find it. If it's done 
just the same way but on good, fertile soil it can be fine all the 
way through. But usually it's on mud packed solid by heavy tractor 
wheels. Did your neighbour spread the offensive stuff at the bottom 
anyway?

>The horse manure had
>years to rot and protected from the elements had dried to a massive brick.
>It was about two feet thick and I had to break through it with a pick axe.
> I have half a dozen "compost" piles scattered about. They are not
>managed at all and consist of brush, sod, dirt, old plants and vines and
>sometimes grass clippings all piled up. I don't think their temps get much
>above air temp, but eventually they rot and when I stumble upon one 2, 3 or
>more years later they are great finds.
> I think of such piles as examples of cold composting.

It might get a bit mesophylic. It's a useful technique you can use 
where such material accumulates, as it does, rather than the extra 
work of moving it to a new site and layering/mixing with other 
material to make a thermophylic pile. But I think it should be 
complementary to managed piles rather than the main method. The 
product is nice, if it's had enough time, but I don't think it's as 
dynamic as thermophylic compost (if you think of it as a sort of 
inoculant).

>Re: Using glycerin to help heat up a manure pile:
> > If you don't build the pile properly in the
> > first place, would the glycerine help? Or even work to raise the temp
> > in a badly built pile?
>
> I suspect you're right. .
>As I build my compost piles, the leaves are my "dries". Adding diluted
>glycerine simply replaces the water I would otherwise have to add. The last
>thing fresh manure needs is more liquid.

Indeed not, especially when it's been left to accumulate long enough 
to be mixed with urine and the bedding and trampled on by heavy 
cattle.

I don't think there's a quick fix for this problem short of improved 
management.

> > This is a classic Tom, relevant to what you're asking and I think
> > you'd like it:
> >
> > Fertility Farming by Newman Turner
> > http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library.html#turner1
>
> I promise to read it.
>
> > The man who put composting on a scientific basis was Albert Howard.
> > He did it much the same way as you, very similar, I'm sure it would
> > have been Howard who inspired your grandfather, directly or
> > indirectly. Back in Britain after he ret

[Biofuel] Stop the Clash of Civilizations - video

[Kirk McLoren]

  

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Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations

[Zeke Yewdall]

Yeah, unfortunatly the selection of diesel vehicals in the US is terrible --
elsewhere pretty much any vehical any manufacturer is available in diesel.
Here, it's just odd old cars, or 3/4 ton trucks and larger  Canada is a
little better, but I am not sure of the details of exactly what is available
there though.  I know they got more of the turbodiesel VW's while the US
just the non-turbo ones for the most part -- which is odd considering one of
the biggest problems selling diesels in the US was the perception of them
being slow... because they only sold the slow ones here.  I think they might
have gotten the diesel VW Eurovans in Canada, which we never got here in the
US -- might be about the size you are looking for.





Zeke, I'm in Columbus, Ohio. Thanks for the thoughts. Bummer, if I were
outside the US I could find a better van?
What about Canada? Should I look there for a van, since they're a days
drive from me, might be better pickings up North?

Thanks again everyone for responding.

Luke


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*614-764-8010*

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[Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations

[Luke Kareklas]

NOTE TO WEBMASTER: No need to print this part. Is this how I respond to a topic 
on the List? Use the subject line to respond to the last comment? I couldn't 
find a "reply" button on the list. Thanks for forwarding this one on!

Luke

***

Hey all, 

Thanks for a good jumping off point. 

Zeke, I'm in Columbus, Ohio. Thanks for the thoughts. Bummer, if I were outside 
the US I could find a better van? 
What about Canada? Should I look there for a van, since they're a days drive 
from me, might be better pickings up North? 

Thanks again everyone for responding.

Luke
 
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Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations

[raymond greeley]

I would like to see this van, what did you send it in. I have not been able to 
open
ray


Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 15:48:02 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations
Look for a mitsubishi delica.  A buddy of mine just imported one with low miles 
from Japan.  He loves it.JoeLuke Kareklas wrote:




Hello All, I am a Kid's Birthday Party Entertainer, as well as a Juggler, 
Magician, and "Balloon Guy."I live in the Midwest, and have all 4 seasons 
during the year, if this is a helpful bit of information. 
 
Lately my entertainment business has gotten really busy and it's come time for 
me to buy a larger vehicle. I have been a fan of alternative fuels for years, 
but never pursued a diesel vehicle. 
I would like recommendations on what type of deisel van would you recommend 
that would most easily transfer over to a SVO, WVO, or biodiesel system for me 
to drive? I am looking for a 1/2 or 3/4 ton van, not really a "minivan" type of 
vehicle. Again, I am naive and new to all this and hope your thoughts will help 
ground me and get me pointed in the right direction. I guess I have to go buy a 
diesel vehicle before I can get moving on SVO, WVO, or Biodiesel fueling, 
right? Thank you very much. Luke
 

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Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations

[Mike Weaver]

A Toyo would be a much better deal than a big huge Ford but I don't 
think you'l be able to find one
in the US.  I've looked with no success.  You *may* be able to bring one 
in from Canada or
some people buy a diesel engine from Japan and swap.  I gave it a pretty 
good shot myself, then decided to keep the old gasser Highlux and got a 
VW Golf.

Good luck.

Keith Addison wrote:

>Hello Luke, welcome
>
>I don't think you're after a US-made behemoth. Some months ago 
>someone in the US asked me this question. I recommended that they try 
>to find a Toyota TownAce, which is what we have here in Japan. 
>Second-hand TownAces are exported from Japan worldwide, including to 
>the US (via Canada). He managed to find one and was very happy with 
>it. The TownAce is one of the few older cars that are commonly seen 
>on Japan's roads, and they don't look out of place. A classic. Ours 
>is a 1990 TownAce 4WD 1.97-litre 4-cyl turbo diesel van. We've had it 
>for four years and have never put any petro-diesel in it, biodiesel 
>and SVO only. The 4-wheel drive is really good, by the way. Actually 
>it's one of the nicest cars I've had. This site might help:
>http://www.toyotavanpeople.com/index.html
>ToyotaVanPeople.com
>
>Best
>
>Keith
>
>
>
>  
>
>>Yeah, for that size, a Ford or Chevy is probably the best bet.  I am 
>>not a fan of these engines -- complicated because they are V-8's 
>>instead of inline designs, and impossible to work on because of the 
>>van body.  But the only other thing to suggest is is a Isuzu NPR or 
>>Mitsubishi Fuso -- much easier to work on, but quite a bit bigger -- 
>>more like a 1 ton or 2 ton size.  I love ours, but we can use a 
>>16,000 lb vehicle with a 16 foot box.   We get 10 to 11mpg on B100. 
>>If you are looking to buy new, the dodge sprinter diesel is a very 
>>nice option -- probably won't find a used one of those though.
>>
>>On 5/23/07, Mike Weaver 
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>I think your best bet is a Ford or Chevy.  They are hard to find but
>>worth the look.
>>
>>Joe Street wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Look for a mitsubishi delica.  A buddy of mine just imported one with
>>>low miles from Japan.  He loves it.
>>>
>>>Joe
>>>
>>>Luke Kareklas wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
Hello All,

I am a Kid's Birthday Party Entertainer, as well as a Juggler,
Magician, and "Balloon Guy."

I live in the Midwest, and have all 4 seasons during the year, if
this is a helpful bit of information.

Lately my entertainment business has gotten really busy and it's come
time for me to buy a larger vehicle. I have been a fan of alternative
fuels for years, but never pursued a diesel vehicle.

I would like recommendations on what type of deisel van would you
recommend that would most easily transfer over to a SVO, WVO, or
biodiesel system for me to drive? I am looking for a 1/2 or 3/4 ton
van, not really a "minivan" type of vehicle.

Again, I am naive and new to all this and hope your thoughts will
help ground me and get me pointed in the right direction. I guess I
have to go buy a diesel vehicle before I can get moving on SVO, WVO,
or Biodiesel fueling, right?
Thank you very much.

Luke


Luke Kareklas
*Luke the Juggler*
*614-764-8010*

www.LuketheJuggler.com 


>><http://www.lukethejuggler.com/>
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[Biofuel] if you use potting soil

[Kirk McLoren]

potting soil is sterilized. be sure to see links at bottom of page

  http://www.fungi.com/mycogrow/index.html

innoculates your potting soil with good guys

I also use super thrive. Walmart has it.
It will greatly increase germination rate of older seed as well as more 
abundant growth.
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[Biofuel] Where's Osama?

[M&K DuPree]

I received this item from Dow Jones News Service this morning. MD

DJ MARKET TALK: Where's Osama?
Thu May 24 12:48:52 2007 EDT

  1648 GMT [Dow Jones] So why is Osama bin Laden still at large five-and-a-half 
years after 9/11? It's pretty simple: "Because we haven't got him yet, Jim. 
That's why," President Bush told a reporter Thursday. The good news is that "We
brought a lot of his buddies to justice." And even though Osama is still alive 
and kicking in a cave somewhere, "He's not leading many parades." (HJP)

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Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations

[Keith Addison]

Hello Luke, welcome

I don't think you're after a US-made behemoth. Some months ago 
someone in the US asked me this question. I recommended that they try 
to find a Toyota TownAce, which is what we have here in Japan. 
Second-hand TownAces are exported from Japan worldwide, including to 
the US (via Canada). He managed to find one and was very happy with 
it. The TownAce is one of the few older cars that are commonly seen 
on Japan's roads, and they don't look out of place. A classic. Ours 
is a 1990 TownAce 4WD 1.97-litre 4-cyl turbo diesel van. We've had it 
for four years and have never put any petro-diesel in it, biodiesel 
and SVO only. The 4-wheel drive is really good, by the way. Actually 
it's one of the nicest cars I've had. This site might help:
http://www.toyotavanpeople.com/index.html
ToyotaVanPeople.com

Best

Keith



>Yeah, for that size, a Ford or Chevy is probably the best bet.  I am 
>not a fan of these engines -- complicated because they are V-8's 
>instead of inline designs, and impossible to work on because of the 
>van body.  But the only other thing to suggest is is a Isuzu NPR or 
>Mitsubishi Fuso -- much easier to work on, but quite a bit bigger -- 
>more like a 1 ton or 2 ton size.  I love ours, but we can use a 
>16,000 lb vehicle with a 16 foot box.   We get 10 to 11mpg on B100. 
>If you are looking to buy new, the dodge sprinter diesel is a very 
>nice option -- probably won't find a used one of those though.
>
>On 5/23/07, Mike Weaver 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I think your best bet is a Ford or Chevy.  They are hard to find but
>worth the look.
>
>Joe Street wrote:
>
> > Look for a mitsubishi delica.  A buddy of mine just imported one with
> > low miles from Japan.  He loves it.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > Luke Kareklas wrote:
> >
> >> Hello All,
> >>
> >> I am a Kid's Birthday Party Entertainer, as well as a Juggler,
> >> Magician, and "Balloon Guy."
> >>
> >> I live in the Midwest, and have all 4 seasons during the year, if
> >> this is a helpful bit of information.
> >>
> >> Lately my entertainment business has gotten really busy and it's come
> >> time for me to buy a larger vehicle. I have been a fan of alternative
> >> fuels for years, but never pursued a diesel vehicle.
> >>
> >> I would like recommendations on what type of deisel van would you
> >> recommend that would most easily transfer over to a SVO, WVO, or
> >> biodiesel system for me to drive? I am looking for a 1/2 or 3/4 ton
> >> van, not really a "minivan" type of vehicle.
> >>
> >> Again, I am naive and new to all this and hope your thoughts will
> >> help ground me and get me pointed in the right direction. I guess I
> >> have to go buy a diesel vehicle before I can get moving on SVO, WVO,
> >> or Biodiesel fueling, right?
> >> Thank you very much.
> >>
> >> Luke
> >>
> >>
> >> Luke Kareklas
> >> *Luke the Juggler*
> >> *614-764-8010*
> >>
> >> www.LuketheJuggler.com 
><http://www.lukethejuggler.com/>


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Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation

[Keith Addison]

Do they still think Solly Morris was such a great guy for building 
all those motorways in the 60s?

Keith

>I think we need to rethink not so much the car as our pattern of 
>transport needs and facilities. Granted, it isn't something that one 
>person can implement unless they've got some practical authority: 
>but if we live in places that claim to be democratic, the people who 
>have got some practical authority are susceptible to public 
>pressure, at least in theory. It doesn't preclude rethinking the 
>car, but it's another important process. And it's no use putting it 
>off because I can't build a city on my own. If the process doesn't 
>begin somewhere it just won't begin at all.
>
>So, one of these days I'm going to have a battle on my hands to get 
>the City of Cape Town to allow me to build a house suitable for a 
>pedestrian way of living (or at least if a few of my neighbours see 
>the point and do the same) in a neighbourhood and a city designed to 
>be barely accessible except by car. It's another way.
>
>But greasy-fingered EVs are cool.
>
>-D
>
>- Original Message 
>From: Darryl McMahon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>Sent: Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 5:36:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time 
>Historical Highest Level - Adjusted For Inflation
>
>Ah, yes.  Wildman Rod rides again!  The Ford coupe is a beauty, if a tad
>impractical for most applications.
>
>I think we need to rethink the car before we try to open source it.  My
>idea for a plug-in electric hybrid (biodiesel) has been picked up by
>someone else with more resources and I hope to see the initial results
>on Saturday.  Rumour has it a book will also come from the exercise (not
>by me).  
>
>However, we do need to revisit what we really need from a car today,
>because I don't think the Ford Excursion fits the bill.  How about
>quadricycles that can travel at urban speeds (up to 50 km/h), utilizing
>a combination of human and electric power?  Or the Twike?  Lot's of
>other light-weighting options.  Less resources to construct and operate,
>no toxic emissions in operation (well almost; there will be some CO2
>GHGs from the breathing of the operators).
>
>By comparison, the Smart is a fuel-guzzling pig boasting excessive
>performance.
>
>I have my vintage motorcycle operational again, thanks to my son's
>efforts.  A 1973 Aurenthetic Charger.
>(http://www.econogics.com/e 
>v/auranthe.htm)
>Factory original electric mini-motorcycle.  Gets almost 50 km to the
>kWh.  
>
>Much better than the road-racer 1973 electric Porsche 914 that pigs out
>at 5 km to the kWh.  (If I did the math right, that's about 185 mpg, so
>the motorcycle is getting well over 1500 mpg.  According to this article
>in Grist 
><http://evco.ca/electrathon/ind 
>ex.html>, walking gets about 75
>mpg equivalent.  An electric-assist bicycle would get about 3000 mpg
>equivalent.)  Tilled the garden on the weekend with an electric tractor.
>Just bought a small, cordless electric rototiller for my mother - she
>loves it.
>
>Gasoline is only expensive if you use it.  Go electric and green your
>electricity.  Buy locally.  We know the answers, the rest is
>rationalizations and convenience.  Yes, it does take some effort to put
>it all into practice, and I'm still on the path and far from the goal.
>My advice, make the shift to sustainable practices while fossil energy
>is still cheap.
>
>Darryl
>
>Dawie Coetzee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hey Zeke, are you familiar with this one?
> > 
>http://www. 
>angelfire.com/ca4/renewables/wilde/sterfo1.htm -D
> >
> >
> > - Original Message 
> > From: Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, 23 May, 2007 4:42:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: US Gasoline Prices Hit All Time Historical
>Highest
> > Level - Adjusted For Inflation
> >
> > Wha??  I did have to replace the radio in my '91 VW because after
>I
> > replaced the battery, it went into security mode and wouldn't turn on
>again.
> > And I refused to go to the dealership to have them fix that.  I
>suppose I was
> > supposed to take it there to get the battery replaced to begin with...
>
> >
> > This is why I am building my own electric cars.  One from a 1974
>pickup, and
> > one from a recumbent bicycle (if I lived on the flatland, the regular
>bicycle
> > itself would be fine but pedling up 4,000 feet in elevation gets
>tiring at
> > times and I'd like electric assist -- solar recharged, of course)
> >
> > Z
> >
> >
> > On 5/22/07, Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Maybe an open source car?
> > The problem with new cars is that they can't be fixed.  I knew someone
> > who got a new BMW 540 and it was replaced by insurance after the radio
>was
> > stolen.  Wiring and electronics too messed up to fix.  

Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations

[Zeke Yewdall]

No, I was asking where Luke is located.

Here in the US, Kia only sell really cheap gasoline cars.  You are lucky to
get their good diesel stuff.

On 5/24/07, Andres Secco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Far from that in Chile

- Original Message -
*From:* Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org
*Sent:* Thursday, May 24, 2007 11:21 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations

Where are you located?  I was assuming the US.  If you are outside of the
US, it'll be easy to find something.

On 5/24/07, Andres Secco < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Think KIA besta is the best choice if there is a dealer in your town.
> I have been using a KIA with Biodiesel for three years and still works
> as
> new.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations
>
>
> >I think your best bet is a Ford or Chevy.  They are hard to find but
> > worth the look.
> >
> > Joe Street wrote:
> >
> >> Look for a mitsubishi delica.  A buddy of mine just imported one with
> >> low miles from Japan.  He loves it.
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >> Luke Kareklas wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello All,
> >>>
> >>> I am a Kid's Birthday Party Entertainer, as well as a Juggler,
> >>> Magician, and "Balloon Guy."
> >>>
> >>> I live in the Midwest, and have all 4 seasons during the year, if
> >>> this is a helpful bit of information.
> >>>
> >>> Lately my entertainment business has gotten really busy and it's
> come
> >>> time for me to buy a larger vehicle. I have been a fan of
> alternative
> >>> fuels for years, but never pursued a diesel vehicle.
> >>>
> >>> I would like recommendations on what type of deisel van would you
> >>> recommend that would most easily transfer over to a SVO, WVO, or
> >>> biodiesel system for me to drive? I am looking for a 1/2 or 3/4 ton
> >>> van, not really a "minivan" type of vehicle.
> >>>
> >>> Again, I am naive and new to all this and hope your thoughts will
> >>> help ground me and get me pointed in the right direction. I guess I
> >>> have to go buy a diesel vehicle before I can get moving on SVO, WVO,
>
> >>> or Biodiesel fueling, right?
> >>> Thank you very much.
> >>>
> >>> Luke
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Luke Kareklas
> >>> *Luke the Juggler*
> >>> *614-764-8010*
> >>>
> >>> www.LuketheJuggler.com 
> >>>
> >>>
>
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Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations

[Andres Secco]

Far from that in Chile
  - Original Message - 
  From: Zeke Yewdall 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 11:21 AM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations


  Where are you located?  I was assuming the US.  If you are outside of the US, 
it'll be easy to find something.  


  On 5/24/07, Andres Secco < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Think KIA besta is the best choice if there is a dealer in your town. 
I have been using a KIA with Biodiesel for three years and still works as
new.

- Original Message -
From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations


>I think your best bet is a Ford or Chevy.  They are hard to find but 
> worth the look.
>
> Joe Street wrote:
>
>> Look for a mitsubishi delica.  A buddy of mine just imported one with
>> low miles from Japan.  He loves it.
>>
>> Joe 
>>
>> Luke Kareklas wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I am a Kid's Birthday Party Entertainer, as well as a Juggler,
>>> Magician, and "Balloon Guy." 
>>>
>>> I live in the Midwest, and have all 4 seasons during the year, if
>>> this is a helpful bit of information.
>>>
>>> Lately my entertainment business has gotten really busy and it's come 
>>> time for me to buy a larger vehicle. I have been a fan of alternative
>>> fuels for years, but never pursued a diesel vehicle.
>>>
>>> I would like recommendations on what type of deisel van would you 
>>> recommend that would most easily transfer over to a SVO, WVO, or
>>> biodiesel system for me to drive? I am looking for a 1/2 or 3/4 ton
>>> van, not really a "minivan" type of vehicle. 
>>>
>>> Again, I am naive and new to all this and hope your thoughts will
>>> help ground me and get me pointed in the right direction. I guess I
>>> have to go buy a diesel vehicle before I can get moving on SVO, WVO, 
>>> or Biodiesel fueling, right?
>>> Thank you very much.
>>>
>>> Luke
>>>
>>>
>>> Luke Kareklas
>>> *Luke the Juggler*
>>> *614-764-8010* 
>>>
>>> www.LuketheJuggler.com 
>>>
>>> 
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Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations

[Zeke Yewdall]

Where are you located?  I was assuming the US.  If you are outside of the
US, it'll be easy to find something.

On 5/24/07, Andres Secco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Think KIA besta is the best choice if there is a dealer in your town.
I have been using a KIA with Biodiesel for three years and still works as
new.

- Original Message -
From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations


>I think your best bet is a Ford or Chevy.  They are hard to find but
> worth the look.
>
> Joe Street wrote:
>
>> Look for a mitsubishi delica.  A buddy of mine just imported one with
>> low miles from Japan.  He loves it.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> Luke Kareklas wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I am a Kid's Birthday Party Entertainer, as well as a Juggler,
>>> Magician, and "Balloon Guy."
>>>
>>> I live in the Midwest, and have all 4 seasons during the year, if
>>> this is a helpful bit of information.
>>>
>>> Lately my entertainment business has gotten really busy and it's come
>>> time for me to buy a larger vehicle. I have been a fan of alternative
>>> fuels for years, but never pursued a diesel vehicle.
>>>
>>> I would like recommendations on what type of deisel van would you
>>> recommend that would most easily transfer over to a SVO, WVO, or
>>> biodiesel system for me to drive? I am looking for a 1/2 or 3/4 ton
>>> van, not really a "minivan" type of vehicle.
>>>
>>> Again, I am naive and new to all this and hope your thoughts will
>>> help ground me and get me pointed in the right direction. I guess I
>>> have to go buy a diesel vehicle before I can get moving on SVO, WVO,
>>> or Biodiesel fueling, right?
>>> Thank you very much.
>>>
>>> Luke
>>>
>>>
>>> Luke Kareklas
>>> *Luke the Juggler*
>>> *614-764-8010*
>>>
>>> www.LuketheJuggler.com 
>>>

>>>
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Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations

[Andres Secco]

Think KIA besta is the best choice if there is a dealer in your town.
I have been using a KIA with Biodiesel for three years and still works as 
new.

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations


>I think your best bet is a Ford or Chevy.  They are hard to find but
> worth the look.
>
> Joe Street wrote:
>
>> Look for a mitsubishi delica.  A buddy of mine just imported one with
>> low miles from Japan.  He loves it.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> Luke Kareklas wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> I am a Kid's Birthday Party Entertainer, as well as a Juggler,
>>> Magician, and "Balloon Guy."
>>>
>>> I live in the Midwest, and have all 4 seasons during the year, if
>>> this is a helpful bit of information.
>>>
>>> Lately my entertainment business has gotten really busy and it's come
>>> time for me to buy a larger vehicle. I have been a fan of alternative
>>> fuels for years, but never pursued a diesel vehicle.
>>>
>>> I would like recommendations on what type of deisel van would you
>>> recommend that would most easily transfer over to a SVO, WVO, or
>>> biodiesel system for me to drive? I am looking for a 1/2 or 3/4 ton
>>> van, not really a "minivan" type of vehicle.
>>>
>>> Again, I am naive and new to all this and hope your thoughts will
>>> help ground me and get me pointed in the right direction. I guess I
>>> have to go buy a diesel vehicle before I can get moving on SVO, WVO,
>>> or Biodiesel fueling, right?
>>> Thank you very much.
>>>
>>> Luke
>>>
>>>
>>> Luke Kareklas
>>> *Luke the Juggler*
>>> *614-764-8010*
>>>
>>> www.LuketheJuggler.com 
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations

[Zeke Yewdall]

Yeah, for that size, a Ford or Chevy is probably the best bet.  I am not a
fan of these engines -- complicated because they are V-8's instead of inline
designs, and impossible to work on because of the van body.  But the only
other thing to suggest is is a Isuzu NPR or Mitsubishi Fuso -- much easier
to work on, but quite a bit bigger -- more like a 1 ton or 2 ton size.  I
love ours, but we can use a 16,000 lb vehicle with a 16 foot box.   We get
10 to 11mpg on B100.   If you are looking to buy new, the dodge sprinter
diesel is a very nice option -- probably won't find a used one of those
though.

On 5/23/07, Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I think your best bet is a Ford or Chevy.  They are hard to find but
worth the look.

Joe Street wrote:

> Look for a mitsubishi delica.  A buddy of mine just imported one with
> low miles from Japan.  He loves it.
>
> Joe
>
> Luke Kareklas wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> I am a Kid's Birthday Party Entertainer, as well as a Juggler,
>> Magician, and "Balloon Guy."
>>
>> I live in the Midwest, and have all 4 seasons during the year, if
>> this is a helpful bit of information.
>>
>> Lately my entertainment business has gotten really busy and it's come
>> time for me to buy a larger vehicle. I have been a fan of alternative
>> fuels for years, but never pursued a diesel vehicle.
>>
>> I would like recommendations on what type of deisel van would you
>> recommend that would most easily transfer over to a SVO, WVO, or
>> biodiesel system for me to drive? I am looking for a 1/2 or 3/4 ton
>> van, not really a "minivan" type of vehicle.
>>
>> Again, I am naive and new to all this and hope your thoughts will
>> help ground me and get me pointed in the right direction. I guess I
>> have to go buy a diesel vehicle before I can get moving on SVO, WVO,
>> or Biodiesel fueling, right?
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>> Luke
>>
>>
>> Luke Kareklas
>> *Luke the Juggler*
>> *614-764-8010*
>>
>> www.LuketheJuggler.com 
>>
>>
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[Biofuel] Windows Automatic Update Service turned on?

[D. Mindock]

Here is one terrific reason to install the latest patches 
and new security fixes onto your Windows computer -- 
automatically with Windows Automatic Update Service 
turned on.

The latest version of the Gozi Trojan is unbelievable.
This trojan can come from everyday normal and safe 
websites -- those that have javascript security flaws.  
That means ANY WEBSITE, even highly reputable, safe, 
and secure public websites, can be infected with the 
Gozi trojan, if the underlying vulnerability conditions 
are there by chance and happen to be amenable.

The Gozi trojan once automatically installed on your 
computer kicks on (auto-activates) only when you enter 
an SSL Internet session (SSL = Secure Sockets Layer, 
encrypted session), which you invoke for all bank and 
financial transactions.

Gozi then logs (key-logger) all your keystrokes until 
you leave your SSL session.

Then Gozi periodically uploads to a rogue blackhat server 
all its captured data of your financial transactions 
(during SSL sessions), relaying your websites visited, 
your account data, you passwords, your private personal 
ID data, and so forth.

Can you detect Gozi on your PC?  Nope.  The latest variant
of Gozi is reportedly undetectable.  It leaves no traces, 
no tracks, no characteristic signature.  New undetectable 
Gozi variants are surfacing now.

http://www.pcworld.com/printable/article/id,132048/printable.html

http://www.secureworks.com/research/threats/gozi/?threat=gozi

Blackhat fuzzers are special tools that rogue hackers can 
use to crawl the internet in search of websites with 
the correct vulnerable security flaws.  Then Gozi can be 
installed to create a new infected webpage. 

Google attempts to use similar crawlers looking for 
flaws (that it knows about), and then tries to exclude 
them from its Google search database. 

The trojan can get onto your computer automatically
with your doing NOTHING at all to get it (if you have
an unpatched vulnerable computer) -- because a flawed 
javascript with Gozi overlay runs on the webpage for 
every user who visits that webpage.

This happens AUTOMATICALLY and ALWAYS, when you have 
javascript turned on by default in your web browser.

-- not questionable websites.  ANY normal, regular,
safe and ordinary webpage with flawed javascript can 
be tinkered so that the Gozi overlay activates when
you visit that webpage.

Make sure to install the latest patches and security 
fixes with Windows Automatic Update Service turned on 
by default for your PC.  Install updates immediately.
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Re: [Biofuel] Newbie Seeking Diesel Van Recommendations

[Mike Weaver]

I think your best bet is a Ford or Chevy.  They are hard to find but 
worth the look.

Joe Street wrote:

> Look for a mitsubishi delica.  A buddy of mine just imported one with 
> low miles from Japan.  He loves it.
>
> Joe
>
> Luke Kareklas wrote:
>
>> Hello All, 
>>
>> I am a Kid's Birthday Party Entertainer, as well as a Juggler, 
>> Magician, and "Balloon Guy."
>>
>> I live in the Midwest, and have all 4 seasons during the year, if 
>> this is a helpful bit of information. 
>>  
>> Lately my entertainment business has gotten really busy and it's come 
>> time for me to buy a larger vehicle. I have been a fan of alternative 
>> fuels for years, but never pursued a diesel vehicle.
>>
>> I would like recommendations on what type of deisel van would you 
>> recommend that would most easily transfer over to a SVO, WVO, or 
>> biodiesel system for me to drive? I am looking for a 1/2 or 3/4 ton 
>> van, not really a "minivan" type of vehicle.
>>
>> Again, I am naive and new to all this and hope your thoughts will 
>> help ground me and get me pointed in the right direction. I guess I 
>> have to go buy a diesel vehicle before I can get moving on SVO, WVO, 
>> or Biodiesel fueling, right?
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>> Luke
>>  
>>
>> Luke Kareklas
>> *Luke the Juggler*
>> *614-764-8010*
>>
>> www.LuketheJuggler.com 
>>
>>
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