Hi Ryan
Keith wrote:
And there are people who demand to know: What's all this off-topic
political crap got to do with BIOFUELS???, which usually turns out
to be another way of saying they disagree with it and want it
censored.
Keith, I for one will put in my 2 cents and say quite honestly
Hi Chris
hi, keith.
i have my own 'issues' with the big enviro groups.
http://www.sacbee.com/news/projects/environment/index02.html
Environment, Inc.
http://counterpunch.org/donnelly05242005.html
Michael Donnelly:
May 24, 2005
Behind the Green(back) Curtain
Hallo Keith, Friends,
Thursday, 07 July, 2005, 17:19:26, you wrote:
...snip...
You will notice that Keith, for instance, seems to offer solutions.
KA ... thanks for saying so! Though not always, I can be negative too
KA where necessary, but I do try to point to alternatives. More than
KA that
You're welcome.
Richard
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Hi Ryan
Keith wrote:
And there are people who demand to know: What's all this off-topic
political crap got to do with BIOFUELS???, which usually turns out
to be another way of saying they disagree with it and want it censored.
Keith, I
.
Best
Keith
_Chris N
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Hi Hakan;
100
Hello Richard
Nitrogen-fixing trees. Nitrogen, is that part of soil nutrients?
Yes, the main one. Allegedly. There's a better case for calcium
though. Soil nutrients aren't quite the same as plant nutrients,
though they should be - feed the soil, not the plant. The gospel of
chemical
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Hi Hakan;
100% in agreement with all of that. Clearcutting IS bad, I thought I
made
uphold.Or ignore.BestKeith_Chris N- Original Message -From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Joe StreetTo: <mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org>Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 11:55 AMSubject: Re: [Biofuel] How
many trees were killed to build your home ?Hi Hakan;100%
ANSWER:
None! My house is over one hundred years old. The orginal trees, if left
would have been all killed by bark beetle or worse fire. The land they came
from is still forest and has probably been cut several times since the house
was built.. The paved road in front of the house has killed a
trees were killed to build your home ?
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:08:14 -0700 (PDT)
Well done. Thanks Wes.
I am often discouraged to the point of being overwhelmed by the struggle.
I'm sure everyone in this forum has felt a wide range of emotions including
outrage, guilt, sadness, inadequacy
john broderick wrote:
Hi:
I don't know where Keith got his information about trees depleting
soil nutrients after 4 or 5 generations of trees.
Aarghhh!!!
Do you mind? That was NOT my information, Chris N posted that and I
strongly disagreed and countered it.
Please be more careful who
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Hi:I don't know where Keith got his information about
trees depleting soil nutrients after 4 or 5 generations of trees.I
suggest that if
Keith wrote:
And there are people who demand to
know: "What's all this off-topic political crap got to do with BIOFUELS???",
which usually turns out to be another way of saying they disagree with it and
want it censored.
Keith, I for one will put in my 2 cents and say quite honestly that I
hi, keith.
i have my own 'issues' with the big enviro groups. but i have been quite
impressed with one group as i learn more about them. that would be 'the nature
conservancy'. (although, i should point out there was some sort of unsavory
business a few years back wherein certain members of
Hi Chris;
<>Granted a mature forest supports a
<>different ecology than a second growth but
for instance studies have
<>shown that there is more food for bears in
a clearcut zone than there is
in a mature forest.
i don't see the relevance of
Joe,
Only a couple of complementary things,
The Elk an Moose also like clear cut, but they are very bad for
forest management. They eat the top of the newly planted trees.
Clear cuts are also bad, since it often result in that the top soil
is washed down the streams and over fertilize them.
Hi Hakan
Joe,
Only a couple of complementary things,
The Elk an Moose also like clear cut, but they are very bad for
forest management. They eat the top of the newly planted trees.
Clear cuts are also bad, since it often result in that the top soil
is washed down the streams and over
Hello Joe, Chris
Hi Chris;
Granted a mature forest supports a
different ecology than a second growth but for instance studies have
shown that there is more food for bears in a clearcut zone than there is
in a mature forest.
i don't see the relevance of this. you could make the same
Hi Hakan;
100% in agreement with all of that. Clearcutting IS bad, I thought I
made that distinction. It is also true that clearcutting does not hurt
bears or elk. Selective cutting and even the use of helicopters to
remove the odd massive tree are being used which is normally cost
: Appal Energy
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We do not live in the US.
Would like to know what is this panasteel or recycled steel?
Something that requires
: [Biofuel] How many trees
were killed to build your home ?
Hi Hakan;100% in agreement with all of that.
Clearcutting IS bad, I thought I made that distinction. It is also
true that clearcutting does not hurt bears or elk. Selective cutting
and even the use of helicopters to remove the odd
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How many trees were killed to build your home ?
Hi Hakan;
100% in agreement with all of that. Clearcutting IS bad, I thought I
made that distinction. It is also true that clearcutting does not hurt
bears or elk. Selective cutting and even the use of helicopters to
remove
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Hi Hakan;
100% in agreement with all of that. Clearcutting
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What about cast earth, and how would it compare to flyash concrete construction?
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We do not live in the US.
Would like to know what is this panasteel or recycled steel
in a sustainable way, it would be all good.
Chris K
Cayce, SC
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We do not live in the US.
Would
: [Biofuel] How many trees were killed to build your home ?
We do not live in the US.
Would like to know what is this panasteel or recycled steel?
Something that requires a boatload of fossil fuels to smelt, sheet
and press.
Nice thing about renewables. They're renewable.
And to a very large
: Sunday, July 03, 2005 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] How many trees were killed to build your home ?
We do not live in the US.
Would like to know what is this panasteel or recycled steel?
Something that requires a boatload of fossil fuels to smelt, sheet and
press.
Nice thing about
.
Chris K
Cayce, SC
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We do not live in the US.
Would like to know what is this panasteel
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We do not live in the US.
Would like to know what is this panasteel or recycled steel?
Something that requires a boatload of fossil fuels to smelt, sheet and
press.
Nice thing about
hi, joe. a few counterpoints to some of your observations.
Currently more forest area is lost to natural
causes than logging.
well, truly this is how it should be, so long as the 'natural' causes are not
anomalously numerous due to 'unnatural' i.e. human-made environmental
imbalances.
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:
Josephine Wee
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Ms. Nancy Canning
We are interested in how one builds a house
with recycled tires, dirt and stucco. where canI find
, 2005 11:51
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were killed to build your home ?
what about recycled tires. filled with
dirt,then covered with stucco. Makes a mighty good building and
is being used all over the southwest.
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what about recycled tires. filled with dirt, then covered with
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Ms. Nancy Canning
We are interested in how one builds a house
with recycled tires, dirt and stucco. where canI find a website
showing this? \
thanks
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go to Google, type in recycled tire earth home and you
have many of web pages, even designs for homes made
from recycled tires filled with earth and then stucco
over. It's a great energy efficient way to build.
Ahhh, if only
What about cast earth, and how would it compare to flyash
concrete construction?
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I just built a utility building using the recycled steel structure by
Panasteel, and I didn't have to join a get-rich-quick scheme to do it.
Chris
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were killed to build your home ?
what about recycled tires. filled with
dirt,then covered with stucco. Makes a mighty good building and is
being used all over the southwest.
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Have you ever wondered how many trees were killed to build your home ? Go to this link an see how many and what you can do to change that whether it be a garage or a stadium ?http://customsuperhomes.com/mykI would like to make that change for America, after viewing the information
The link does not come up, something must be wrong with the address?
Deborah Howard (new on the list)
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Have you ever wondered
how many trees were killed to build your home ? Go to this link
an see
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Have you ever wondered how many trees were killed to build your home
? Go to this link an see how many and what you can do to change that
whether it be a garage or a stadium ?
Having finished construction of my own house less than three years
ago, and
: [Biofuel] How many trees
were killed to build your home ?
I just built a utility building using the recycled steel structure by
Panasteel, and I didn't have to join a get-rich-quick scheme to do it.
Chris KCayce, SC
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