Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel Processor Liquid Seperation
Hello Siddharth Dear All, I am silent member of the group. I have been reading all the messages and frankly speaking I must thank all members to share their knowledge on biofuels. I am looking to build my processor for Biodiesel manufacturing. I have gone through the website and the internet to find a detailed design for the processor. I would be thankfull if someone could send me the detailed processor designs for the two-stage process. What size processor do you need? You don't need a special design for either of the two-stage processes. One, more thing. I learnt that one can use a centrifuge to sperate glycerine and biodiesel and biodiesel and water. Please let me know whether one can do the same or not. Settling seperation takes a lot of time we need to find alternative for the same. It will cost you extra money. You see it as saving time, but in fact what you want is more production, right? So build a bigger processor or run two processors in parallel with multiple settling and washing tanks. Best Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ Regards, Siddharth Chopra ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel Processor Liquid Seperation
Dear Mr chopra.We are expermenting for Bio-diesel in 40 gallon batch. After methoxide treatment and 12 hours settling, we are decanting bio- diesel up to 90%. we are getting 99.9% pure bio-diesel. Remaing portion, we mix with new oil and start process all over. I like to know what raw material you are using. We got good amount of rancid palm oil. Thank you Navnit Dhana. [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: SIDDHARTH CHOPRA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Biodiesel Processor Liquid Seperation Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2006 14:47:24 +0530 Dear All, I am silent member of the group. I have been reading all the messages and frankly speaking I must thank all members to share their knowledge on biofuels. I am looking to build my processor for Biodiesel manufacturing. I have gone through the website and the internet to find a detailed design for the processor. I would be thankfull if someone could send me the detailed processor designs for the two-stage process. One, more thing. I learnt that one can use a centrifuge to sperate glycerine and biodiesel and biodiesel and water. Please let me know whether one can do the same or not. Settling seperation takes a lot of time we need to find alternative for the same. Regards, Siddharth Chopra ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel Processor - Plastic Processors
I've got a 55l polyprop (PP) processor - bad choice. Nothing sticks to it - silicon peels off, epoxy flakes away. Works best to have mechanical seals to stop leaking. There is specialized equipment for bonding PP to PP - I was quoted 4500ZAR (715USD). If you're mass manufacturing processors and you've specified the mixing pump and heating element, with ports and orifices the correct size then I guess a plastic of sorts would be cheaper. I'm busy making a steel processor - silicon stops leaking and epoxy sticks. Regards, Duncan Mills 082 853 8356 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Weaver Sent: 02 September 2005 10:01 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel Processor FuelMeister - Voldemort lives... Keith, Thank you, Yes I received that email after I sent mine. Juan G. From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel Processor Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 04:01:39 +0900 Hello Juan I would appreciate some help. I am new to the list and I read a few days ago on one of the threads that metal tanks should be used to make a biodiesel processor. There are 2 processors I saw on the web 1 at Freedom Fuel America the other at BioDiesel gear. Both are polyethylene ( i am sure most on the list have seen them) are these any good? Also is there any other place web or otherwise where I could find biodiesel processors in kits or assembled. This E-mail message and its attachments are subject to the disclaimers published at http://www.barloworld-equipment.com/mail_disclaimer.htm Barloworld Equipment - 7 Values: Integrity + Uncompromising Customer Service + Long Term Customer Relationships + Passion For Our Brands + Professionalism + Effective Communication + Winning Through Team Work. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel Processor
On Anglais, steal of money! Frantz DESPREZ wrote: Mike Weaver a écrit : FuelMeister - Voldemort lives... In french, voldemort can mean death flight or steal of dead frantz ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel Processor - Plastic Processors
Been there done that. Stainless best, then plain old steel. Will probably use a 55 gal drum or a Appleseed-based when I scale up my current stainless rig. Plastic ok to learn on. -Mike Mills, Duncan wrote: I've got a 55l polyprop (PP) processor - bad choice. Nothing sticks to it - silicon peels off, epoxy flakes away. Works best to have mechanical seals to stop leaking. There is specialized equipment for bonding PP to PP - I was quoted 4500ZAR (715USD). If you're mass manufacturing processors and you've specified the mixing pump and heating element, with ports and orifices the correct size then I guess a plastic of sorts would be cheaper. I'm busy making a steel processor - silicon stops leaking and epoxy sticks. Regards, Duncan Mills 082 853 8356 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Weaver Sent: 02 September 2005 10:01 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel Processor FuelMeister - Voldemort lives... Keith, Thank you, Yes I received that email after I sent mine. Juan G. From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel Processor Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 04:01:39 +0900 Hello Juan I would appreciate some help. I am new to the list and I read a few days ago on one of the threads that metal tanks should be used to make a biodiesel processor. There are 2 processors I saw on the web 1 at Freedom Fuel America the other at BioDiesel gear. Both are polyethylene ( i am sure most on the list have seen them) are these any good? Also is there any other place web or otherwise where I could find biodiesel processors in kits or assembled. This E-mail message and its attachments are subject to the disclaimers published at http://www.barloworld-equipment.com/mail_disclaimer.htm Barloworld Equipment - 7 Values: Integrity + Uncompromising Customer Service + Long Term Customer Relationships + Passion For Our Brands + Professionalism + Effective Communication + Winning Through Team Work. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel Processor
Mike Weaver wrote: FuelMeister - Voldemort lives... And we haven't found all of his horcruxes yet. Obviously. AP Keith, Thank you, Yes I received that email after I sent mine. Juan G. From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel Processor Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 04:01:39 +0900 Hello Juan I would appreciate some help. I am new to the list and I read a few days ago on one of the threads that metal tanks should be used to make a biodiesel processor. There are 2 processors I saw on the web 1 at Freedom Fuel America the other at BioDiesel gear. Both are polyethylene ( i am sure most on the list have seen them) are these any good? Also is there any other place web or otherwise where I could find biodiesel processors in kits or assembled. Thank you for help. Juan G. Huh, second time in 10 minutes... Re Freedom Fuel America - the odious FuelMeister rears its ugly head once again! http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg35652.html Or: http://snipurl.com/h9ou Re: [biofuel] Best Processer You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallons of high-quality biodiesel for that price. The FuelMeister is overpriced junk that is not capable of making quality biodiesel. The instructions that come with it are just as useless. BiodieselGear? Does anybody buy those things? They got some derisive comments when they launched. What's the point anyway? Build your own, a lot cheaper and a lot better, and anybody can do it: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html Biodiesel processors Best wishes Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel Processor
How many gallons does it hold? Mika Feldmann wrote: I made my processor out of an abandoned Guiness keg (stainless) with a few threaded stainless pipe couplings welded in place for an immersion heater, a temperature probe for heat control, and fittings for a circulation pump. Here in Canada, it isn't worthwhile sending the old kegs back to Ireland. Mika */Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: FuelMeister - Voldemort lives... Keith, Thank you, Yes I received that email after I sent mine. Juan G. From: Keith Addison Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel Processor Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 04:01:39 +0900 Hello Juan I would appreciate some help. I am new to the list and I read a few days ago on one of the threads that metal tanks should be used to make a biodiesel processor. There are 2 processors I saw on the web 1 at Freedom Fuel America the other at BioDiesel gear. Both are polyethylene ( i am sure most on the list have seen them) are these any good? Also is there any other place web or otherwise where I could find biodiesel processors in kits or assembled. Thank you for help. Juan G. Huh, second time in 10 minutes... Re Freedom Fuel America - the odious FuelMeister rears its ugly head once again! http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg35652.html Or: http://snipurl.com/h9ou Re: [biofuel] Best Processer You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallons of high-quality biodiesel for that price. The FuelMeister is overpriced junk that is not capable of making quality biodiesel. The instructions that come with it are just as useless. BiodieselGear? Does anybody buy those things? They got some derisive comments when they launched. What's the point anyway? Build your own, a lot cheaper and a lot better, and anybody can do it: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html Biodiesel processors Best wishes Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel Processor
Not sure in gallons, but my processor could hold about 50 liters of oil mix, which should make enough to fill up an average Volkswagen tank. It takes me two deep fryers to fill. MikaMike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many gallons does it hold?Mika Feldmann wrote: I made my processor out of an abandoned Guiness keg (stainless) with a few threaded stainless pipe couplings welded in place for an immersion heater, a temperature probe for heat control, and fittings for a circulation pump. Here in Canada, it isn't worthwhile sending the old kegs back to Ireland. Mika */Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: FuelMeister - Voldemort lives... Keith, Thank you, Yes I received that email after I sent mine. Juan G. From: Keith Addison Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel Processor Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 04:01:39 +0900 Hello Juan I would appreciate some help. I am new to the list and I read a few days ago on one of the threads that metal tanks should be used to make a biodiesel processor. There are 2 processors I saw on the web 1 at Freedom Fuel America the other at BioDiesel gear. Both are polyethylene ( i am sure most on the list have seen them) are these any good? Also is there any other place web or otherwise where I could find biodiesel processors in kits or assembled.Thank you for help. Juan G. Huh, second time in 10 minutes... Re Freedom Fuel America - the odious FuelMeister rears its ugly head once again! http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg35652.html Or: http://snipurl.com/h9ou Re: [biofuel] Best Processer "You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallons of high-quality biodiesel for that price." The FuelMeister is overpriced junk that is not capable of making quality biodiesel. The instructions that come with it are just as useless. BiodieselGear? Does anybody buy those things? They got some derisive comments when they launched. What's the point anyway? Build your own, a lot cheaper and a lot better, and anybody can do it: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html Biodiesel processors Best wishes Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/_ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000
Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel Processor
Keith, Thank you, Yes I received that email after I sent mine. Juan G. From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel Processor Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 04:01:39 +0900 Hello Juan I would appreciate some help. I am new to the list and I read a few days ago on one of the threads that metal tanks should be used to make a biodiesel processor. There are 2 processors I saw on the web 1 at Freedom Fuel America the other at BioDiesel gear. Both are polyethylene ( i am sure most on the list have seen them) are these any good? Also is there any other place web or otherwise where I could find biodiesel processors in kits or assembled. Thank you for help. Juan G. Huh, second time in 10 minutes... Re Freedom Fuel America - the odious FuelMeister rears its ugly head once again! http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg35652.html Or: http://snipurl.com/h9ou Re: [biofuel] Best Processer You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallons of high-quality biodiesel for that price. The FuelMeister is overpriced junk that is not capable of making quality biodiesel. The instructions that come with it are just as useless. BiodieselGear? Does anybody buy those things? They got some derisive comments when they launched. What's the point anyway? Build your own, a lot cheaper and a lot better, and anybody can do it: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html Biodiesel processors Best wishes Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel Processor
FuelMeister - Voldemort lives... Keith, Thank you, Yes I received that email after I sent mine. Juan G. From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel Processor Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 04:01:39 +0900 Hello Juan I would appreciate some help. I am new to the list and I read a few days ago on one of the threads that metal tanks should be used to make a biodiesel processor. There are 2 processors I saw on the web 1 at Freedom Fuel America the other at BioDiesel gear. Both are polyethylene ( i am sure most on the list have seen them) are these any good? Also is there any other place web or otherwise where I could find biodiesel processors in kits or assembled. Thank you for help. Juan G. Huh, second time in 10 minutes... Re Freedom Fuel America - the odious FuelMeister rears its ugly head once again! http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg35652.html Or: http://snipurl.com/h9ou Re: [biofuel] Best Processer You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallons of high-quality biodiesel for that price. The FuelMeister is overpriced junk that is not capable of making quality biodiesel. The instructions that come with it are just as useless. BiodieselGear? Does anybody buy those things? They got some derisive comments when they launched. What's the point anyway? Build your own, a lot cheaper and a lot better, and anybody can do it: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html Biodiesel processors Best wishes Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel Processor
I made my processor out of an abandoned Guiness keg (stainless) with a few threaded stainless pipe couplings welded in place for an immersion heater, a temperature probe for heat control, and fittings for a circulation pump. Here in Canada, it isn't worthwhile sending the old kegs back to Ireland. MikaMike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FuelMeister - Voldemort lives... Keith, Thank you, Yes I received that email after I sent mine. Juan G.From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgTo: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel ProcessorDate: Fri, 2 Sep 2005 04:01:39 +0900Hello Juan I would appreciate some help. I am new to the list and I read a few daysago on one of the threads that metal tanks should be used to make a biodiesel processor. There are 2 processors I saw on the web 1 at Freedom FuelAmerica the other at BioDiesel gear. Both are polyethylene ( i am sure most onthe list have seen them) are these any good? Also is there any other placeweb or otherwise where I could find biodiesel processors in kits orassembled. Thank you for help. Juan G.Huh, second time in 10 minutes...Re Freedom Fuel America - the odious FuelMeister rears its ugly headonce again!http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg35652.htmlOr:http://snipurl.com/h9ouRe: [biofuel] Best Processer"You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallonsof high-quality biodiesel for that price."The FuelMeister is overpriced junk that is not capable of makingquality biodiesel. The instructions that come with it are just asuseless.BiodieselGear? Does anybody buy those things? They got some derisivecomments when they launched.What's the point anyway? Build your own, a lot cheaper and a lotbetter, and anybody can do it:http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.htmlBiodiesel processorsBest wishesKeith___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BioDiesel Processor
Hello Juan I would appreciate some help. I am new to the list and I read a few days ago on one of the threads that metal tanks should be used to make a biodiesel processor. There are 2 processors I saw on the web 1 at Freedom Fuel America the other at BioDiesel gear. Both are polyethylene ( i am sure most on the list have seen them) are these any good? Also is there any other place web or otherwise where I could find biodiesel processors in kits or assembled. Thank you for help. Juan G. Huh, second time in 10 minutes... Re Freedom Fuel America - the odious FuelMeister rears its ugly head once again! http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg35652.html Or: http://snipurl.com/h9ou Re: [biofuel] Best Processer You could make an excellent processor plus more than 8,000 gallons of high-quality biodiesel for that price. The FuelMeister is overpriced junk that is not capable of making quality biodiesel. The instructions that come with it are just as useless. BiodieselGear? Does anybody buy those things? They got some derisive comments when they launched. What's the point anyway? Build your own, a lot cheaper and a lot better, and anybody can do it: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html Biodiesel processors Best wishes Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel processor
Is this legal to do, build and sell a processor on ebay or are there copyrights to it, i was just wondering [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Original Message -- From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 02:28:27 +0900 Hello Busyditch, Craig and all Someone posted a link a few months back to a person building just such a trailer and selling it on ebay.I believe he was in Pennsylvania. He hasnt had any up for a while, as I have been looking , but he may be coerced into building another. Maybe someone else has this link? I did not save it. This one, I think: http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20041227/004293.html [Biofuel] Anyone know anything about this on ebay? Anyway, just put a processor set-up on a trailer, what's the problem? Mike Pelly's first processor was on a trailer, and so is his latest version, or it can be, or I think so anyway: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor11.html Pelly Model A processor - Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_mike.html Biodiesel recipe from Mike Pelly: Journey to Forever (Hey, Mike, great to see you here again, by the way! And thanks for the nice words.) Luc's processor's in a cabinet, but I guess it could just as easily be on a trailer. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor12.html Luc's processor-in-a-cabinet Keith - Original Message - From: Craig Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:42 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Biodiesel processor I am looking for a processor that I can pull around the Denver area on a trailer promoting biodiesel! Craig Harris ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Sent via the WebMail system at unity.unity.edu ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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Hello Keith, Well this project is for demonstration purposes only; maybe 5-20 gallons! However it must be pretty and state of the art or I will not get my target audience. The media! coupled with schools and parks! The idea is get consumers interested! Yes I could strap an Apple seed to a trailer; but that's not what I want. - Original Message - From: Keith Addisonmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel processor Hello Busyditch, Craig and all Someone posted a link a few months back to a person building just such a trailer and selling it on ebay.I believe he was in Pennsylvania. He hasnt had any up for a while, as I have been looking , but he may be coerced into building another. Maybe someone else has this link? I did not save it. This one, I think: http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20041227/004293.htmlhttp://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20041227/004293.html [Biofuel] Anyone know anything about this on ebay? Anyway, just put a processor set-up on a trailer, what's the problem? Mike Pelly's first processor was on a trailer, and so is his latest version, or it can be, or I think so anyway: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor11.htmlhttp://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor11.html Pelly Model A processor - Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_mike.htmlhttp://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_mike.html Biodiesel recipe from Mike Pelly: Journey to Forever (Hey, Mike, great to see you here again, by the way! And thanks for the nice words.) Luc's processor's in a cabinet, but I guess it could just as easily be on a trailer. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor12.htmlhttp://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor12.html Luc's processor-in-a-cabinet Keith - Original Message - From: Craig Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:42 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Biodiesel processor I am looking for a processor that I can pull around the Denver area on a trailer promoting biodiesel! Craig Harris ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuelhttp://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlhttp://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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Someone posted a link a few months back to a person building just such a trailer and selling it on ebay.I believe he was in Pennsylvania. He hasnt had any up for a while, as I have been looking , but he may be coerced into building another. Maybe someone else has this link? I did not save it. - Original Message - From: Craig Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:42 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Biodiesel processor I am looking for a processor that I can pull around the Denver area on a trailer promoting biodiesel! Craig Harris ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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Yes, his name is Bob Kinney and I have contacted him! I am also trying to get Blue Sun to contribute a mobile processor so I can pull around Denver and promote biodiesel to the schools and in the parks! Beyond the amazing process I will be handing out literature. Hopefully this will all work out. - Original Message - From: Busyditchmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 4:24 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel processor Someone posted a link a few months back to a person building just such a trailer and selling it on ebay.I believe he was in Pennsylvania. He hasnt had any up for a while, as I have been looking , but he may be coerced into building another. Maybe someone else has this link? I did not save it. - Original Message - From: Craig Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:42 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Biodiesel processor I am looking for a processor that I can pull around the Denver area on a trailer promoting biodiesel! Craig Harris ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuelhttp://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlhttp://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuelhttp://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlhttp://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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Someone posted a link a few months back to a person building just such a trailer and selling it on ebay.I believe he was in Pennsylvania. He hasnt had any up for a while, as I have been looking , but he may be coerced into building another. Maybe someone else has this link? I did not save it. This one, I think: http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20041227/004293.html [Biofuel] Anyone know anything about this on ebay? Anyway, just put a processor set-up on a trailer, what's the problem? Mike Pelly's first processor was on a trailer, and so is his latest version, or it can be, or I think so anyway: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor11.html Pelly Model A processor - Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_mike.html Biodiesel recipe from Mike Pelly: Journey to Forever (Hey, Mike, great to see you here again, by the way! And thanks for the nice words.) Luc's processor's in a cabinet, but I guess it could just as easily be on a trailer. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor12.html Luc's processor-in-a-cabinet Keith - Original Message - From: Craig Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 4:42 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Biodiesel processor I am looking for a processor that I can pull around the Denver area on a trailer promoting biodiesel! Craig Harris ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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I just joined the group, and I must say this is a very interesting group from the little that I read. A little about what I'm doing... I've been in welding, construction, researching alternate fuels/ energy, millrighting, etc.etc... for about 30 odd years. As the saying goes I've done so much with so little for so long I can now do anything with nothing lol. Work, family and a host of other diversions has garnered my attention away from what my passion is.. that is alternate energy. We have recently formed a company, Energy7 and have on staff, amongst other professional, a chemical engineer/mathematician. Right now our research, amongst other thing is biomass to methanol Being in Central Alberta that's like trying to sell snowballs to Eskimos..lol..Being busy as always I don't have much time to write but I will try to be on board most of the time. Till later, cheers, Henri - Original Message - From: Craig Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March, 2005 2:42 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Biodiesel processor I am looking for a processor that I can pull around the Denver area on a trailer promoting biodiesel! Craig Harris ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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Phillip; I am curious as to what you are referring to as an orphan gas station? Under ground tanks where what and laws concerning them are, what shut down many service stations in the USA. I would think to re-open those stations to retail biofuels the storage will have to be brought up to standards as well as any pollution found cleaned up as well. Thanks Doug, N0LKK [EMAIL PROTECTED] E Pluribus Unum Motto of the USA since 1776 - Original Message - From: Phillip Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel processor : Dave - : : What size would you recommend for a typical gas : station/C-store in the United States? : : There are orphan gas stations that can be potentially : converted into a biodiesel/clean fuel gas : stationmaybe a neighborhood gas station of the : future will have a WVO biorefiner in back of the : station and pumps in front...like a neighborhood : dairy. : : Most refernces state that the average medium sized gas : station sells about 40,000 to 80,000 gallons per month : of traditional fuels to remain profitable viable and : pay the bills. : : Interested in gathering more research. : : Phillip Wolfe : ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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Doug, Good points. There are some gas stations that are up to standard in which the owner-operators want to sell or spin off - in ones and two...or in bunches. I was thinking of a neighborhood gas station in which the owner is retiring and or closed and up to par...just looking for another owner. Yes, you are correct that the UST (underground storage tanks) were quite an issue with leakage, not up to environmental guidelines, etc. But there are many good stations. On a much larger scale, a major petroleum company just spun off over 1,000 gas stations to another company or groups of medium companies. Thanks for pointing out your correct observations. --- Doug Younker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phillip; I am curious as to what you are referring to as an orphan gas station? Under ground tanks where what and laws concerning them are, what shut down many service stations in the USA. I would think to re-open those stations to retail biofuels the storage will have to be brought up to standards as well as any pollution found cleaned up as well. Thanks Doug, N0LKK [EMAIL PROTECTED] E Pluribus Unum Motto of the USA since 1776 - Original Message - From: Phillip Wolfe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel processor : Dave - : : What size would you recommend for a typical gas : station/C-store in the United States? : : There are orphan gas stations that can be potentially : converted into a biodiesel/clean fuel gas : stationmaybe a neighborhood gas station of the : future will have a WVO biorefiner in back of the : station and pumps in front...like a neighborhood : dairy. : : Most refernces state that the average medium sized gas : station sells about 40,000 to 80,000 gallons per month : of traditional fuels to remain profitable viable and : pay the bills. : : Interested in gathering more research. : : Phillip Wolfe : ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
RE: [Biofuel] biodiesel processor
content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 there is a company here in Austin that sells above ground tanks with pumps and everything that can be dropped in place just about anywhere to add a biofueling station. All you have to do is get elctricity to the pumps i'll try and dig up a link and send it to the list. they were at the Texas Energy Congress a few months ago and I talked to the guy. mel -Original Message- From: Phillip Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 1/5/2005 5:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel processor Dave - What size would you recommend for a typical gas station/C-store in the United States? There are orphan gas stations that can be potentially converted into a biodiesel/clean fuel gas stationmaybe a neighborhood gas station of the future will have a WVO biorefiner in back of the station and pumps in front...like a neighborhood dairy. Most refernces state that the average medium sized gas station sells about 40,000 to 80,000 gallons per month of traditional fuels to remain profitable viable and pay the bills. Interested in gathering more research. Phillip Wolfe --- David Frykeras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I sell biodieselprocessors ready for production from 400 litres/day to 4 litres/day. Please have a look at www.carryon.se Best regards David - Original Message - From: Gabriel Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:58 AM Subject: [Biofuel] biodiesel processor Is there someone here who sell biodiesel processor? Where can I buy a biodiesel processor? _ Profitez des puissants filtres de courriels indésirables articulé sur la technologie brevetée Microsoft SmartScreen.s http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=fr-capage=features/popup Commencez dès maintenant à profiter de tous les avantages de MSN Premium et obtenez les deux premiers mois GRATUITS*. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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permits for you to make biodiesel in a retail environment. Of course new processor technology and new approaches to energy may change that but I don't see this as viable in the near term. Phillip Wolfe wrote: Dave - What size would you recommend for a typical gas station/C-store in the United States? There are orphan gas stations that can be potentially converted into a biodiesel/clean fuel gas stationmaybe a neighborhood gas station of the future will have a WVO biorefiner in back of the station and pumps in front...like a neighborhood dairy. Most refernces state that the average medium sized gas station sells about 40,000 to 80,000 gallons per month of traditional fuels to remain profitable viable and pay the bills. Interested in gathering more research. Phillip Wolfe -- Kenneth Kron President Bay Area Biofuel http://www.bayareabiofuel.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 415-867-8067 What you can do, or dream you can do, begin it! Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faust. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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Mel Very good information and thanks. I worked in the C-Store/Gas Station business for a petroleum company (a very big one!). Anyway, gas station owners are typically an independent group of guys (and gals). For example, a C-store owner in California is installing solar panels on his gas stations. They are always seeking new markets and opportunities and many are greener than people think. I know because I met the actual owners at giant C-Store Trade Shows in Orlando, FL, and Las Vegas, NV. As I told the group, there is a small orpan gas station in my neighborhood and I am trying to contact the owner. It opens and closes every other year. But in a neighborhood with many progressives. See you soon, Phillip Wolfe Put a Wolfe in your Tank...the Call of the Wild. --- Mel Riser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there is a company here in Austin that sells above ground tanks with pumps and everything that can be dropped in place just about anywhere to add a biofueling station. All you have to do is get elctricity to the pumps i'll try and dig up a link and send it to the list. they were at the Texas Energy Congress a few months ago and I talked to the guy. mel -Original Message- From: Phillip Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 1/5/2005 5:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel processor Dave - What size would you recommend for a typical gas station/C-store in the United States? There are orphan gas stations that can be potentially converted into a biodiesel/clean fuel gas stationmaybe a neighborhood gas station of the future will have a WVO biorefiner in back of the station and pumps in front...like a neighborhood dairy. Most refernces state that the average medium sized gas station sells about 40,000 to 80,000 gallons per month of traditional fuels to remain profitable viable and pay the bills. Interested in gathering more research. Phillip Wolfe --- David Frykeras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I sell biodieselprocessors ready for production from 400 litres/day to 4 litres/day. Please have a look at www.carryon.se Best regards David - Original Message - From: Gabriel Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:58 AM Subject: [Biofuel] biodiesel processor Is there someone here who sell biodiesel processor? Where can I buy a biodiesel processor? _ Profitez des puissants filtres de courriels indésirables articulé sur la technologie brevetée Microsoft SmartScreen.s http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=fr-capage=features/popup Commencez dès maintenant à profiter de tous les avantages de MSN Premium et obtenez les deux premiers mois GRATUITS*. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel
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Mel, Getting electricity to the equipment is not that hard. Typically a person will work with an electrical contractor and the local utility company. I know this too because I also worked at an electrical utility company as a power engineer. Anway, all it takes is the estimated amps, operating hours, future estimated loads. The electrical contractor will come up with an estimated load draw, the switchgear needed, and then work with local utility. I think the bigger challenge is the actual physical tank, its size and what the thing looks like. You/we/readers will need to be aware of local city zoning ordinances to determine if structures are needed to hide the tank, any hazmat ordinances, etc. In California, the Weights Measures Dept looks at biodiesel in an interesting way...and scrutinized closely. Maybe the reader from Bay Area Fuels can add in his comments. I look forward to Mel's information, and costs..to develop a budget. Phillip Wolfe ..Call of the Wild :) --- Mel Riser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there is a company here in Austin that sells above ground tanks with pumps and everything that can be dropped in place just about anywhere to add a biofueling station. All you have to do is get elctricity to the pumps i'll try and dig up a link and send it to the list. they were at the Texas Energy Congress a few months ago and I talked to the guy. mel -Original Message- From: Phillip Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 1/5/2005 5:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [Biofuel] biodiesel processor Dave - What size would you recommend for a typical gas station/C-store in the United States? There are orphan gas stations that can be potentially converted into a biodiesel/clean fuel gas stationmaybe a neighborhood gas station of the future will have a WVO biorefiner in back of the station and pumps in front...like a neighborhood dairy. Most refernces state that the average medium sized gas station sells about 40,000 to 80,000 gallons per month of traditional fuels to remain profitable viable and pay the bills. Interested in gathering more research. Phillip Wolfe --- David Frykeras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I sell biodieselprocessors ready for production from 400 litres/day to 4 litres/day. Please have a look at www.carryon.se Best regards David - Original Message - From: Gabriel Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:58 AM Subject: [Biofuel] biodiesel processor Is there someone here who sell biodiesel processor? Where can I buy a biodiesel processor? _ Profitez des puissants filtres de courriels indésirables articulé sur la technologie brevetée Microsoft SmartScreen.s http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=fr-capage=features/popup Commencez dès maintenant à profiter de tous les avantages de MSN Premium et obtenez les deux premiers mois GRATUITS*. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http
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Dear Ken, Thank you for the information and clarification regarding permits and zoning ordinances in the California area. Yes, I agree for Bay Area. Regarding San Joaquin Valley, because the air problems are so severe in area, I also plan to ask my fellow Urban Regional City Planners in outlying counties as we have a small a email group for all City Permit and Zoning Ordinance Planners for San Joaquin Valley = we are former classmates in Urban and Regional Planning Certificate Program. Maybe some exception can be made. Not sure. Thanks again. --- Kenneth Kron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the near termm there are not that many jurisdictions that will issue permits for you to make biodiesel in a retail environment. Of course new processor technology and new approaches to energy may change that but I don't see this as viable in the near term. Phillip Wolfe wrote: Dave - What size would you recommend for a typical gas station/C-store in the United States? There are orphan gas stations that can be potentially converted into a biodiesel/clean fuel gas stationmaybe a neighborhood gas station of the future will have a WVO biorefiner in back of the station and pumps in front...like a neighborhood dairy. Most refernces state that the average medium sized gas station sells about 40,000 to 80,000 gallons per month of traditional fuels to remain profitable viable and pay the bills. Interested in gathering more research. Phillip Wolfe -- Kenneth Kron President Bay Area Biofuel http://www.bayareabiofuel.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 415-867-8067 What you can do, or dream you can do, begin it! Boldness has genius, power and magic in it. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faust. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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I sell biodieselprocessors ready for production from 400 litres/day to 4 litres/day. Please have a look at www.carryon.se Best regards David - Original Message - From: Gabriel Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:58 AM Subject: [Biofuel] biodiesel processor Is there someone here who sell biodiesel processor? Where can I buy a biodiesel processor? _ Profitez des puissants filtres de courriels indsirables articul sur la technologie brevete Microsoft SmartScreen.s http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=fr-capage=features/popup Commencez ds maintenant profiter de tous les avantages de MSN Premium et obtenez les deux premiers mois GRATUITS*. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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Dave - What size would you recommend for a typical gas station/C-store in the United States? There are orphan gas stations that can be potentially converted into a biodiesel/clean fuel gas stationmaybe a neighborhood gas station of the future will have a WVO biorefiner in back of the station and pumps in front...like a neighborhood dairy. Most refernces state that the average medium sized gas station sells about 40,000 to 80,000 gallons per month of traditional fuels to remain profitable viable and pay the bills. Interested in gathering more research. Phillip Wolfe --- David Frykeras [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello I sell biodieselprocessors ready for production from 400 litres/day to 4 litres/day. Please have a look at www.carryon.se Best regards David - Original Message - From: Gabriel Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 1:58 AM Subject: [Biofuel] biodiesel processor Is there someone here who sell biodiesel processor? Where can I buy a biodiesel processor? _ Profitez des puissants filtres de courriels indésirables articulé sur la technologie brevetée Microsoft SmartScreen.s http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=fr-capage=features/popup Commencez dès maintenant à profiter de tous les avantages de MSN Premium et obtenez les deux premiers mois GRATUITS*. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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available ones. Why not just build your own? take all the time you need. Paris wasn't built in a day and neither will your reactor. Luc - Original Message - From: Gabriel Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 7:58 PM Subject: [Biofuel] biodiesel processor Is there someone here who sell biodiesel processor? Where can I buy a biodiesel processor? _ Profitez des puissants filtres de courriels indsirables articul sur la technologie brevete Microsoft SmartScreen.s http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=fr-capage=features/popup Commencez ds maintenant profiter de tous les avantages de MSN Premium et obtenez les deux premiers mois GRATUITS*. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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Dear sir, I have just read with interest that you can supply a Biofuel production unit. I would be most interested to receive more information. Regards, chris watson. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Kwick Pick opens locked car doors, front doors, drawers, briefcases, padlocks, and more. On sale now! http://us.click.yahoo.com/ehaLqB/Fg5DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] biodiesel processor manufactures?
Dear sir, I have just read with interest that you can supply a Biofuel production unit. I would be most interested to receive more information. Regards, chris watson. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not sure who you're addressing this to, but why don't you just make one? No problem. Keith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Kwick Pick opens locked car doors, front doors, drawers, briefcases, padlocks, and more. On sale now! http://us.click.yahoo.com/ehaLqB/Fg5DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] biodiesel processor manufactures?
- Original Message - DEAR SIR Processing Plants for Bio-diesel are available in Africa through myself.I need to know how many liters you want to produce per day.The plants start at nine thousand litrs per day(9000Lt) Please contact me with your requierment. Regards Chris Malan. From: jape31 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 5:26 AM Subject: [biofuel] biodiesel processor manufactures? does anybody know of a source for the processor already made? tia, japedtdi Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Take the Yahoo! Groups survey for a chance to win $1,000. Your opinion is very important to us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/NOFBfD/uAJEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] biodiesel processor manufactures?
does anybody know of a source for the processor already made? tia, japedtdi Not for small ones, but if that's what you want drop me a line offlist, I may know someone who can help. There are some designs here: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_simon.html Building a biodiesel mixer Suppliers of larger-scale systems here: Biodiesel technology http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_supply.html#tech Also this one (not yet added): SUPERIOR PROCESS TECHNOLOGIES -- Offering the latest in multi-feedstock biodiesel processing technology, and turn-key engineering and design services. Superior's biodiesel technology offers the highest efficiency and is scalable from the largest continuous processing facilities in the world to small-scale alternative feedstock facilities. Contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.SuperiorProcessTech.com Best Keith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/