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Why not use a meat grinder? Not the home model, next size up or so, something that a local butchery would use to make mince meat. If there are still such things as local butcheries. that is. You might be able to adapt it without too much hassle. Maybe you could get one second-hand. There are some diagrams here of how a screw press works, quite clear, should help: http://www.folkecenter.dk/plant-oil/publications/efdcpos_html/index.html EQUIPMENT FOR DECENTRALISED COLD PRESSING OF OIL SEEDS 1st Edition Also as a PDF, 917k http://www.folkecenter.dk/plant-oil/efdcpos_ef.pdf 64-page report Best Keith Yeah! Let's see some pictures of that thing Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Martin Klingensmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information How exactly does it work? Does it just have grinding/pressing wheels that squeeze the hell out of the seed/whatever? --- Neoteric Biofuels Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Komet line has one that'll give you the exercise you seek. Hand operated. Does about 10 lbs. Of seed per hour. Cost is about $1700 US delivered to you. (quality never comes cheap). You can press oil out of darn near anything with it - some of them are pretty high value oils (nutraceutical/pharmaceutical). You could run that 1 litre car from VW for a week, for a little bit of a workout on the press. = -Martin Klingensmith http://archive.nnytech.net/ http://devzero.ath.cx/ http://www.nnytech.net/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Deo18C/zDLEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Keith writes: Why not use a meat grinder? Not the home model, next size up or so, something that a local butchery would use to make mince meat. If there are still such things as local butcheries. that is. You might be able to adapt it without too much hassle. I think the problem is that a meat grinder, like a nut grinder, is designed to chop up everything and push it out all together. There are traditional systems used in many places that are similar, but the oily mix after grinding is then wrapped up (in cloth, basket mat'l, etc) and pressed under rocks or with a car jack to separate the oil. Definitely a batch process that way. A continuous oil press needs two very separate outlets for oil and cake. Not saying the grinders couldn't be modified, but that's the nature of the modification you'd have to do. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Deo18C/zDLEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Hi Ken Keith writes: Why not use a meat grinder? Not the home model, next size up or so, something that a local butchery would use to make mince meat. If there are still such things as local butcheries. that is. You might be able to adapt it without too much hassle. I think the problem is that a meat grinder, like a nut grinder, is designed to chop up everything and push it out all together. There are traditional systems used in many places that are similar, but the oily mix after grinding is then wrapped up (in cloth, basket mat'l, etc) and pressed under rocks or with a car jack to separate the oil. They have some very cunning ways of doing that. Definitely a batch process that way. A continuous oil press needs two very separate outlets for oil and cake. Not saying the grinders couldn't be modified, but that's the nature of the modification you'd have to do. Yes, I agree. I was thinking the cake could come out the end, like the mince, and holes or slots or a screen or something or other could be provided in the body for the oil. It's not a regular screw, the pitch(?) shortens as it gets to the end to build up the pressure, so something like that might work. It would need some experimenting, by a cleverer person than me. Regards Keith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Deo18C/zDLEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I've got a wheatgrass juicer that would probably work better than a meat grinder. Mines a stainless steel manually cranked, about $80 or so. And it's got a much longer tapered screw than meat grinders -- but I'd always thought you needed much more pressure than that? But it's designed so the juice comes out a hole in the side and the bulk comes out the end. It has a bolt in the end that blocks the stuff, after it builds up you have to open that a bit to allow it to escape -- whereas a meat grinder has a large end opening with plates with various sized holes according to the grind desired, and normally you have to run it thru the big holes first, then the little ones, so maybe you could modify that end plate. Used to grind up a lot of moose and deer with ours, once upon a time. Northern pike too, grind 'em up, bones and all, makes great fish cakes or soup. But anyway, I think the wheatgrass juicer is more what you'd want, if the pressure is sufficient. Somehow I thought you'd need much, much more. On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 02:17:51AM +0900, Keith Addison wrote: Hi Ken Keith writes: Why not use a meat grinder? Not the home model, next size up or so, something that a local butchery would use to make mince meat. If there are still such things as local butcheries. that is. You might be able to adapt it without too much hassle. I think the problem is that a meat grinder, like a nut grinder, is designed to chop up everything and push it out all together. There are traditional systems used in many places that are similar, but the oily mix after grinding is then wrapped up (in cloth, basket mat'l, etc) and pressed under rocks or with a car jack to separate the oil. They have some very cunning ways of doing that. Definitely a batch process that way. A continuous oil press needs two very separate outlets for oil and cake. Not saying the grinders couldn't be modified, but that's the nature of the modification you'd have to do. Yes, I agree. I was thinking the cake could come out the end, like the mince, and holes or slots or a screen or something or other could be provided in the body for the oil. It's not a regular screw, the pitch(?) shortens as it gets to the end to build up the pressure, so something like that might work. It would need some experimenting, by a cleverer person than me. Regards Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Deo18C/zDLEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Did you think of a manual ram press? Carl Bielenberg in Vermont developed one (see address below). They are easy to build. And very cheap. Look into: http://www.jatropha.org/rampresses/biel-ram.htm Reinhard Henning Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Reinhard writes: You are right. But laboratory size expellers (Komet) are also very expensive, especially the repair parts. I'd prefer to think of the press I want as kitchen scale. There's no engineering reason I can see for a small oil press to cost any more than, say, an electric breadmaker, or the espresso machine on my counter. Clearly, it's a matter of supply and demand, but I bet the demand is higher than it was a few years ago. If I ran the zoo, I'd market it to health-food fans in the US and Europe, and I'd emphasize the nut butter aspect, while also providing accessories (or just a different setting) for seeds. I can imagine someone like Braun taking it on. In the meanwhile, I guess I have to build my own :-) Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- bagani GbR, Reinhard Henning, Rothkreuz 11, D-88138 Weissensberg, Germany Tel: ++49 8389 984129, Fax: 984128, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] internet: www.bagani.de Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Are there plan sets available for these presses? I can't find anything on the website other than the small drawing. On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 11:21:00AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you think of a manual ram press? Carl Bielenberg in Vermont developed one (see address below). They are easy to build. And very cheap. Look into: http://www.jatropha.org/rampresses/biel-ram.htm Reinhard Henning -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Great idea! Kim Harmon Seaver wrote: Anyway, what I was last thinking was building a combo log splitter/pellet press. Engine driven, of course, not just a handpump jack. I need the log splitter anyway, so maybe just build it so you put different ends on the ram, etc. One of those could be for oilseed. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Oh , actually what you call small, is actually minuscule. David At 06:59 PM 8/06/2002 +0900, you wrote: Hi David Me thinks you need to take the time to read what is written on the pages .. then you will find what you went there for.. I don't think so, there is a 125kg/hr expeller there, but no small presses and no prices. It's just a mirror of the Indian manufacturer's site, there's a lot more information at the Indian site, but still no prices. Might be cheaper from Argentina if you're in the US, or maybe not, or cheaper from India if you're in Oz, or maybe not. http://www.tinytechindia.com/oil.htm Tinytech Plants - Tiny Oil Mill - oil expeller, machinery from India Rajkot http://www.tinytechindia.com/index.htm TINYTECH PLANTS - India - Rajkot- tiny oil mills - oil expeller - machinery - exporter Best Keith David At 04:32 PM 7/06/2002 -0400, you wrote: I don't know what Carlos is talking about. He's seeing something that I'm not. I goto this URL and all that's there are three green industrial grinders. Not only are there no small presses, there are no prices, so what is he talking about when he states not expensive? Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information hello Keith: you can see a small and not expensive oil press at www.savoiapower.com/tiny.html Carlos Hello Carlos Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Oh , actually what you call small, is actually minuscule. David Uh-huh? Well, if you insist, but I said small, and that's what I meant. Ken's after a kitchen-size press and that might be miniscule, but I'd guess a lot of people would like one of those, as he says, including me. Not too useful for fuel production, but if you've got the seed anyway, nice to be able to crank out some fresh salad oil when you want it. The emphasis of this group is small-scale - for backyarders making their own fuel, small farms, local coops: from our point of view, Third World rural village coops. That's Reinhard Henning's emphasis too, with the Sundhara press that will produce 15 litres an hour, three gallons (60-70 kg/hr). I'd say that's about the maximum of the useful range: that size and smaller, down to about 5kg/hr (Ken's other choice, for fuel). Most drivers use about 10 gallons a week. A local coop might want to make 30-50 gallons a day. If they want more than that they'd run two processors rather than scale it up, same with presses - get another one rather than a bigger one. So, yes, small. If you think that's miniscule then you're the one who's out of step, you and probably Carlos - savoiapower's 125kg/hr Tiny Oil Mill is massive overkill for most of our purposes. The Sundhara weighs 40kg, the Tiny press 500kg, it probably costs 7-8 times as much and can't be rigged by a local workshop. Industrial, as Jesse said, not small, certainly not Tiny. Keith At 06:59 PM 8/06/2002 +0900, you wrote: Hi David Me thinks you need to take the time to read what is written on the pages .. then you will find what you went there for.. I don't think so, there is a 125kg/hr expeller there, but no small presses and no prices. It's just a mirror of the Indian manufacturer's site, there's a lot more information at the Indian site, but still no prices. Might be cheaper from Argentina if you're in the US, or maybe not, or cheaper from India if you're in Oz, or maybe not. http://www.tinytechindia.com/oil.htm Tinytech Plants - Tiny Oil Mill - oil expeller, machinery from India Rajkot http://www.tinytechindia.com/index.htm TINYTECH PLANTS - India - Rajkot- tiny oil mills - oil expeller - machinery - exporter Best Keith David At 04:32 PM 7/06/2002 -0400, you wrote: I don't know what Carlos is talking about. He's seeing something that I'm not. I goto this URL and all that's there are three green industrial grinders. Not only are there no small presses, there are no prices, so what is he talking about when he states not expensive? Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information hello Keith: you can see a small and not expensive oil press at www.savoiapower.com/tiny.html Carlos Hello Carlos Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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The Komet line has one that'll give you the exercise you seek. Hand operated. Does about 10 lbs. Of seed per hour. Cost is about $1700 US delivered to you. (quality never comes cheap). You can press oil out of darn near anything with it - some of them are pretty high value oils (nutraceutical/pharmaceutical). You could run that 1 litre car from VW for a week, for a little bit of a workout on the press. Happy cranking, think of the savings on gym memberships! You'll have forearms like Popeye in no time! Maybe we should offer it on TV, on the easy payment plan and do an infomercial with Chuck Norris and a few models, showing how you can work the abs, the thighs... ;-) Edward Beggs, BES, MSc http://www.biofuels.ca on 6/9/02 6:20 AM, Harmon Seaver at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 10:10:48PM +0930, David wrote: Perhaps you could use Grandma's old duck press to do the quantities that you want .. by normal press standards, these are minuscule and totally impractical. What is *normal*? I can't imagine that I would have any use for any more than 3 gal @ hr. Even [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be great. I'd absolutely love to have an oilpress that size. David At 05:14 PM 9/06/2002 +0900, you wrote: Oh , actually what you call small, is actually minuscule. David Uh-huh? Well, if you insist, but I said small, and that's what I meant. Ken's after a kitchen-size press and that might be miniscule, but I'd guess a lot of people would like one of those, as he says, including me. Not too useful for fuel production, but if you've got the seed anyway, nice to be able to crank out some fresh salad oil when you want it. Snip Yada yada yada End Snip So, yes, small. If you think that's miniscule then you're the one who's out of step, you and probably Carlos - savoiapower's 125kg/hr Tiny Oil Mill is massive overkill for most of our purposes. The Sundhara weighs 40kg, the Tiny press 500kg, it probably costs 7-8 times as much and can't be rigged by a local workshop. Industrial, as Jesse said, not small, certainly not Tiny. Keith Snip The rest of the surplus crap End snip Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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How exactly does it work? Does it just have grinding/pressing wheels that squeeze the hell out of the seed/whatever? --- Neoteric Biofuels Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Komet line has one that'll give you the exercise you seek. Hand operated. Does about 10 lbs. Of seed per hour. Cost is about $1700 US delivered to you. (quality never comes cheap). You can press oil out of darn near anything with it - some of them are pretty high value oils (nutraceutical/pharmaceutical). You could run that 1 litre car from VW for a week, for a little bit of a workout on the press. = -Martin Klingensmith http://archive.nnytech.net/ http://devzero.ath.cx/ http://www.nnytech.net/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Ed Beggs writes: The Komet line has one that'll give you the exercise you seek. Hand operated. Does about 10 lbs. Of seed per hour. Cost is about $1700 US delivered to you. (quality never comes cheap). You can press oil out of darn near anything with it - some of them are pretty high value oils (nutraceutical/pharmaceutical). You could run that 1 litre car from VW for a week, for a little bit of a workout on the press. Happy cranking.. No problem with the exercise, but the price is still pretty steep. I'm gonna try to build a piston, cage and pressure cone after the Bielenberg design (maybe even try to enlist his help...), and use a hydraulic jack to drive the piston. I bet a little kit with just those three tricky parts (you supply your own jack, lever, or whatever, and mounting brackets) could sell a couple a year to crazy experimenters :-) Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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We've never had anything other than sneers and rudeness from you, so it's hard to gauge what your normal press standards would be. I've said what the standards are for most people here, as they've said too, and why they're practical, in the surplus crap you've snipped. And this is your thoughtful and considered response. I guess it speaks for itself. Keith Perhaps you could use Grandma's old duck press to do the quantities that you want .. by normal press standards, these are minuscule and totally impractical. David At 05:14 PM 9/06/2002 +0900, you wrote: Oh , actually what you call small, is actually minuscule. David Uh-huh? Well, if you insist, but I said small, and that's what I meant. Ken's after a kitchen-size press and that might be miniscule, but I'd guess a lot of people would like one of those, as he says, including me. Not too useful for fuel production, but if you've got the seed anyway, nice to be able to crank out some fresh salad oil when you want it. Snip Yada yada yada End Snip So, yes, small. If you think that's miniscule then you're the one who's out of step, you and probably Carlos - savoiapower's 125kg/hr Tiny Oil Mill is massive overkill for most of our purposes. The Sundhara weighs 40kg, the Tiny press 500kg, it probably costs 7-8 times as much and can't be rigged by a local workshop. Industrial, as Jesse said, not small, certainly not Tiny. Keith Snip The rest of the surplus crap End snip surplus crap reinstated: Oh , actually what you call small, is actually minuscule. David Uh-huh? Well, if you insist, but I said small, and that's what I meant. Ken's after a kitchen-size press and that might be miniscule, but I'd guess a lot of people would like one of those, as he says, including me. Not too useful for fuel production, but if you've got the seed anyway, nice to be able to crank out some fresh salad oil when you want it. The emphasis of this group is small-scale - for backyarders making their own fuel, small farms, local coops: from our point of view, Third World rural village coops. That's Reinhard Henning's emphasis too, with the Sundhara press that will produce 15 litres an hour, three gallons (60-70 kg/hr). I'd say that's about the maximum of the useful range: that size and smaller, down to about 5kg/hr (Ken's other choice, for fuel). Most drivers use about 10 gallons a week. A local coop might want to make 30-50 gallons a day. If they want more than that they'd run two processors rather than scale it up, same with presses - get another one rather than a bigger one. So, yes, small. If you think that's miniscule then you're the one who's out of step, you and probably Carlos - savoiapower's 125kg/hr Tiny Oil Mill is massive overkill for most of our purposes. The Sundhara weighs 40kg, the Tiny press 500kg, it probably costs 7-8 times as much and can't be rigged by a local workshop. Industrial, as Jesse said, not small, certainly not Tiny. Keith At 06:59 PM 8/06/2002 +0900, you wrote: Hi David Me thinks you need to take the time to read what is written on the pages .. then you will find what you went there for.. I don't think so, there is a 125kg/hr expeller there, but no small presses and no prices. It's just a mirror of the Indian manufacturer's site, there's a lot more information at the Indian site, but still no prices. Might be cheaper from Argentina if you're in the US, or maybe not, or cheaper from India if you're in Oz, or maybe not. http://www.tinytechindia.com/oil.htm Tinytech Plants - Tiny Oil Mill - oil expeller, machinery from India Rajkot http://www.tinytechindia.com/index.htm TINYTECH PLANTS - India - Rajkot- tiny oil mills - oil expeller - machinery - exporter Best Keith David At 04:32 PM 7/06/2002 -0400, you wrote: I don't know what Carlos is talking about. He's seeing something that I'm not. I goto this URL and all that's there are three green industrial grinders. Not only are there no small presses, there are no prices, so what is he talking about when he states not expensive? Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information hello Keith: you can see a small and not expensive oil press at www.savoiapower.com/tiny.html Carlos Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Doesn't oil in the seed store much better? Wouldn't people want a kitchen expeller to avoid the rancid oil that I hear is a health issue? Less than $200 would probably find buyers. Quality juicers are in that price range. Kirk -Original Message- From: Ken Provost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 11:08 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information Ed Beggs writes: The Komet line has one that'll give you the exercise you seek. Hand operated. Does about 10 lbs. Of seed per hour. Cost is about $1700 US delivered to you. (quality never comes cheap). You can press oil out of darn near anything with it - some of them are pretty high value oils (nutraceutical/pharmaceutical). You could run that 1 litre car from VW for a week, for a little bit of a workout on the press. Happy cranking.. No problem with the exercise, but the price is still pretty steep. I'm gonna try to build a piston, cage and pressure cone after the Bielenberg design (maybe even try to enlist his help...), and use a hydraulic jack to drive the piston. I bet a little kit with just those three tricky parts (you supply your own jack, lever, or whatever, and mounting brackets) could sell a couple a year to crazy experimenters :-) Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/2002 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Been thinking the same thing. Somebody build it. Make it strong, cheap and effective. We'll maybe be interested in then marketing it. Regards, Edward Beggs, BES, MSc http://www.biofuels.ca on 6/9/02 10:24 AM, Harmon Seaver at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 10:08:00AM -0700, Ken Provost wrote: No problem with the exercise, but the price is still pretty steep. I'm gonna try to build a piston, cage and pressure cone after the Bielenberg design (maybe even try to enlist his help...), and use a hydraulic jack to drive the piston. I bet a little kit with just those three tricky parts (you supply your own jack, lever, or whatever, and mounting brackets) could sell a couple a year to crazy experimenters :-) It would really be nice to find some sort of screw mechanism tho, that you could get cheaply (maybe some mil-surplus gizmo?) and built a real screw press. I was going on the same track before trying to figure out a way to make pellets from biomass. The ram presses just don't make as good a pellet, don't know how they'd do for oil, maybe it wouldn't make any difference. Anyway, what I was last thinking was building a combo log splitter/pellet press. Engine driven, of course, not just a handpump jack. I need the log splitter anyway, so maybe just build it so you put different ends on the ram, etc. One of those could be for oilseed. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Yeah! Let's see some pictures of that thing Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Martin Klingensmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information How exactly does it work? Does it just have grinding/pressing wheels that squeeze the hell out of the seed/whatever? --- Neoteric Biofuels Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Komet line has one that'll give you the exercise you seek. Hand operated. Does about 10 lbs. Of seed per hour. Cost is about $1700 US delivered to you. (quality never comes cheap). You can press oil out of darn near anything with it - some of them are pretty high value oils (nutraceutical/pharmaceutical). You could run that 1 litre car from VW for a week, for a little bit of a workout on the press. = -Martin Klingensmith http://archive.nnytech.net/ http://devzero.ath.cx/ http://www.nnytech.net/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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You are not going to find one for $200, me thinks...that's highly machine (low tolerence) pieces of good quality metal that you're getting. I think maybe just under a $1000 would be interesting. Electric of course, no hand job. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 2:54 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Equipment Information Doesn't oil in the seed store much better? Wouldn't people want a kitchen expeller to avoid the rancid oil that I hear is a health issue? Less than $200 would probably find buyers. Quality juicers are in that price range. Kirk Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Me thinks you need to take the time to read what is written on the pages .. then you will find what you went there for.. David At 04:32 PM 7/06/2002 -0400, you wrote: I don't know what Carlos is talking about. He's seeing something that I'm not. I goto this URL and all that's there are three green industrial grinders. Not only are there no small presses, there are no prices, so what is he talking about when he states not expensive? Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information hello Keith: you can see a small and not expensive oil press at www.savoiapower.com/tiny.html Carlos Hello Carlos Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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The Tinytech oil expeller is not a very small one. I suggest that you regard the Sundhara expeller, which can be build even in small workshops. see: http://jatropha.org/expellers/sundhara-1.htm Regards Reinhard Henning Brawner [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: hello Keith: you can see a small and not expensive oil press at www.savoiapower.com/tiny.html Carlos - Original Message - From: Keith Addison To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information I am knew in thsi list. I would like to produce sunflower oil and I don't know what kind of equipment i should use. Could you help me? And, do you usually burn it with glicerin or take it out? What about motor problems after 200 hours for waste acumulation inside motor? regards, See: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html Straight vegetable oil as diesel fuel http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_supply.html#Oilpress Biofuels supplies and suppliers: Oilseed presses regards Keith Addison Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- bagani GbR, Reinhard Henning, Rothkreuz 11, D-88138 Weissensberg, Germany Tel: ++49 8389 984129, Fax: 984128, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] internet: www.bagani.de Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Hi David Me thinks you need to take the time to read what is written on the pages .. then you will find what you went there for.. I don't think so, there is a 125kg/hr expeller there, but no small presses and no prices. It's just a mirror of the Indian manufacturer's site, there's a lot more information at the Indian site, but still no prices. Might be cheaper from Argentina if you're in the US, or maybe not, or cheaper from India if you're in Oz, or maybe not. http://www.tinytechindia.com/oil.htm Tinytech Plants - Tiny Oil Mill - oil expeller, machinery from India Rajkot http://www.tinytechindia.com/index.htm TINYTECH PLANTS - India - Rajkot- tiny oil mills - oil expeller - machinery - exporter Best Keith David At 04:32 PM 7/06/2002 -0400, you wrote: I don't know what Carlos is talking about. He's seeing something that I'm not. I goto this URL and all that's there are three green industrial grinders. Not only are there no small presses, there are no prices, so what is he talking about when he states not expensive? Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information hello Keith: you can see a small and not expensive oil press at www.savoiapower.com/tiny.html Carlos Hello Carlos Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Hi, You are right. But laboratory size expellers (Komet) are also very expensive, especially the repair parts. Regard the Sundhara press. It has a capacity of about 60 - 70 kg seed per hour (15 l of oil) and costs about 2.000 US $. It is produced in Nepal, Tanzania and Mali. visit the Sundhara website at: http://www.jatropha.org/expellers/sundhara-1.htm Regards Reinhard Henning Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Carlos writes: you can see a small and not expensive oil press at www.savoiapower.com/tiny.html All I can see on that site is an expeller press that weighs 500 kg and processes 125 kg of seed per hour. My guess at the price is in the range of $15,000 USD. (I didn't see a price on the website). Maybe I'm not on the right page -- this is hardly tiny. How about one that weighs 20 kg, processes 5 kg of seed per hour, and costs $300 USD? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- bagani GbR, Reinhard Henning, Rothkreuz 11, D-88138 Weissensberg, Germany Tel: ++49 8389 984129, Fax: 984128, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] internet: www.bagani.de Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Reinhard writes: You are right. But laboratory size expellers (Komet) are also very expensive, especially the repair parts. I'd prefer to think of the press I want as kitchen scale. There's no engineering reason I can see for a small oil press to cost any more than, say, an electric breadmaker, or the espresso machine on my counter. Clearly, it's a matter of supply and demand, but I bet the demand is higher than it was a few years ago. If I ran the zoo, I'd market it to health-food fans in the US and Europe, and I'd emphasize the nut butter aspect, while also providing accessories (or just a different setting) for seeds. I can imagine someone like Braun taking it on. In the meanwhile, I guess I have to build my own :-) Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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hello Keith: you can see a small and not expensive oil press at www.savoiapower.com/tiny.html Carlos - Original Message - From: Keith Addison To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information I am knew in thsi list. I would like to produce sunflower oil and I don't know what kind of equipment i should use. Could you help me? And, do you usually burn it with glicerin or take it out? What about motor problems after 200 hours for waste acumulation inside motor? regards, See: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html Straight vegetable oil as diesel fuel http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_supply.html#Oilpress Biofuels supplies and suppliers: Oilseed presses regards Keith Addison Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Carlos writes: you can see a small and not expensive oil press at www.savoiapower.com/tiny.html All I can see on that site is an expeller press that weighs 500 kg and processes 125 kg of seed per hour. My guess at the price is in the range of $15,000 USD. (I didn't see a price on the website). Maybe I'm not on the right page -- this is hardly tiny. How about one that weighs 20 kg, processes 5 kg of seed per hour, and costs $300 USD? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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hello Keith: you can see a small and not expensive oil press at www.savoiapower.com/tiny.html Carlos Hello Carlos I believe that press is already on the page I referred to below: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_supply.html#Oilpress Biofuels supplies and suppliers: Oilseed presses Best wishes Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Osaka, Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:24 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information I am knew in thsi list. I would like to produce sunflower oil and I don't know what kind of equipment i should use. Could you help me? And, do you usually burn it with glicerin or take it out? What about motor problems after 200 hours for waste acumulation inside motor? regards, See: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html Straight vegetable oil as diesel fuel http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_supply.html#Oilpress Biofuels supplies and suppliers: Oilseed presses regards Keith Addison Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Kwick Pick opens locked car doors, front doors, drawers, briefcases, padlocks, and more. On sale now! http://us.click.yahoo.com/ehaLqB/Fg5DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Carlos writes: you can see a small and not expensive oil press at www.savoiapower.com/tiny.html All I can see on that site is an expeller press that weighs 500 kg and processes 125 kg of seed per hour. My guess at the price is in the range of $15,000 USD. (I didn't see a price on the website). Maybe I'm not on the right page -- this is hardly tiny. How about one that weighs 20 kg, processes 5 kg of seed per hour, and costs $300 USD? Hi Ken Komet, Taby, Dong Kwang all do something like that, dunno about the prices though. Details here - Oilseed presses http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_supply.html#Oilpress Keith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Kwick Pick opens locked car doors, front doors, drawers, briefcases, padlocks, and more. On sale now! http://us.click.yahoo.com/ehaLqB/Fg5DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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hello Ken: The Tiny oil mill for sunflower, rapeseed, soya, costs U$S 5000 FOB Small ones can be found at www.oilpress.com Carlos - Original Message - From: Ken Provost To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information Carlos writes: you can see a small and not expensive oil press at www.savoiapower.com/tiny.html All I can see on that site is an expeller press that weighs 500 kg and processes 125 kg of seed per hour. My guess at the price is in the range of $15,000 USD. (I didn't see a price on the website). Maybe I'm not on the right page -- this is hardly tiny. How about one that weighs 20 kg, processes 5 kg of seed per hour, and costs $300 USD? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Kwick Pick opens locked car doors, front doors, drawers, briefcases, padlocks, and more. On sale now! http://us.click.yahoo.com/ehaLqB/Fg5DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I don't know what Carlos is talking about. He's seeing something that I'm not. I goto this URL and all that's there are three green industrial grinders. Not only are there no small presses, there are no prices, so what is he talking about when he states not expensive? Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information hello Keith: you can see a small and not expensive oil press at www.savoiapower.com/tiny.html Carlos Hello Carlos Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Thanks Keith. My point exactly. Does anyone know where to buy a small oilpress THAT HAS THE PRICES on the same page? I went out to that swedish oilpress site, you know the one with the tractor and Volvo and what a mess that was. Farmers and HTML do not mix. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information Carlos writes: you can see a small and not expensive oil press at www.savoiapower.com/tiny.html All I can see on that site is an expeller press that weighs 500 kg and processes 125 kg of seed per hour. My guess at the price is in the range of $15,000 USD. (I didn't see a price on the website). Maybe I'm not on the right page -- this is hardly tiny. How about one that weighs 20 kg, processes 5 kg of seed per hour, and costs $300 USD? Hi Ken Komet, Taby, Dong Kwang all do something like that, dunno about the prices though. Details here - Oilseed presses http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_supply.html#Oilpress Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Kwick Pick opens locked car doors, front doors, drawers, briefcases, padlocks, and more. On sale now! http://us.click.yahoo.com/ehaLqB/Fg5DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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YEAH! Ken's got the right idea. Does anyone within earshot of this email know about any American makers of oil presses? Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information Carlos writes: you can see a small and not expensive oil press at www.savoiapower.com/tiny.html All I can see on that site is an expeller press that weighs 500 kg and processes 125 kg of seed per hour. My guess at the price is in the range of $15,000 USD. (I didn't see a price on the website). Maybe I'm not on the right page -- this is hardly tiny. How about one that weighs 20 kg, processes 5 kg of seed per hour, and costs $300 USD? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Questions concerning the conversion of car engines to run with plant oil you will find under http://www.jatropha.org/p-o-engines/conversion-cars.htm To extract sunflower oil you can use manual presses or mechanical expellers. Examples of both you find at: http://www.jatropha.org/expellers/index.html and http://www.jatropha.org/extract.htm and http://www.jatropha.org/rampresses/biel-ram.htm Best regards Reinhard Henning marcohgcardoso [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I am knew in thsi list. I would like to produce sunflower oil and I don't know what kind of equipment i should use. Could you help me? And, do you usually burn it with glicerin or take it out? What about motor problems after 200 hours for waste acumulation inside motor? regards, Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- bagani GbR, Reinhard Henning, Rothkreuz 11, D-88138 Weissensberg, Germany Tel: ++49 8389 984129, Fax: 984128, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] internet: www.bagani.de [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Kwick Pick opens locked car doors, front doors, drawers, briefcases, padlocks, and more. On sale now! http://us.click.yahoo.com/ehaLqB/Fg5DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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How much seed do you want to press per hour? Where are you located? Regards, Edward Beggs, BES, MSc http://www.biofuels.ca on 6/6/02 10:08 AM, marcohgcardoso at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am knew in thsi list. I would like to produce sunflower oil and I don't know what kind of equipment i should use. Could you help me? And, do you usually burn it with glicerin or take it out? What about motor problems after 200 hours for waste acumulation inside motor? regards, Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Kwick Pick opens locked car doors, front doors, drawers, briefcases, padlocks, and more. On sale now! http://us.click.yahoo.com/ehaLqB/Fg5DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I am knew in thsi list. I would like to produce sunflower oil and I don't know what kind of equipment i should use. Could you help me? And, do you usually burn it with glicerin or take it out? What about motor problems after 200 hours for waste acumulation inside motor? regards, See: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html Straight vegetable oil as diesel fuel http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_supply.html#Oilpress Biofuels supplies and suppliers: Oilseed presses regards Keith Addison Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
