On Saturday 26 March 2005 17:06, Robin Berjon wrote:
And in case you hadn't noticed, SVG has gained and continues to gain
significant traction.
It's the darling of the mobile world.
I thank my lucky stars daily that 3GPP specified svg as one the formats for
MMS. Suddenly, SVG became relevant
Christian++
On Saturday 26 March 2005 21:02, chwenz wrote:
his usual liar
FUD
hasn't done any homework, checked a single fact
statements that can be easily proven wrong
repeating false statement upon false statement
and
we've been once again more than polite enough
To get my own
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm still not sure what Yoshi was really trying to do, either.
We want our application to work with Macromedia handset via SVG-T.
Where can I get Macromedia SVG-T Flash Lie 1.1 to test our application?
Why
Hi, JD-
I guess I was barking up the wrong tree. Sorry, I assumed that since you
hang out on svg-dev, that you were the interface for Macromedia on SVG.
If you can't answer these questions, can you tell me who can? Is Troy Evans
the person to contact about non-technical SVG issues in
Dean Jackson wrote:
We're talking about SVG Tiny and Flash Lite on constrained devices
(such as mobile phones). This doesn't include Adobe
Any thoughts on Adobe Reader LE + SVG Tiny down the road?
michael bolger
NTT DoCoMo Adopts Adobe Reader LE for Its 3G Mobile Platform
Doug Schepers wrote:
But I wonder why people aren't going for the SVG libs? John, can
you tell us if you charge more for SVG capability? How about the
size of the libs compared to the overall size of the viewer?
Sorry, I don't have that information. Particularly on the pricing angle,
Hi, JD-
I know you're busy, and SVG is clearly not one of your high priorities, but
forgive me for my persistence, since it is one of mine.
Thanks for your reply; I look forward to your updates on the subject when
you can find out more information. But you didn't address my other
question,
Dean Jackson wrote:
You're effectively implementing a virtual machine for SVG on a device
with limited processing power while your competitors are doing it
natively.
Well, I can't necessarily agree, given than neither Adobe nor Microsoft
has delivered anything new and native in quite some
Rick Bullotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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And those are the competitors, not boutique SVG
providers, IMO. Perhaps the boutique guys apply more in the mobile
space, but I'm looking for some mainstream momentum on full SVG front.
A lot of the TinySVG stuff
On 28 Mar 2005, at 03:59, Rick Bullotta wrote:
Dean Jackson wrote:
You're effectively implementing a virtual machine for SVG on a device
with limited processing power while your competitors are doing it
natively.
Well, I can't necessarily agree, given than neither Adobe nor Microsoft
After this type of divisiveness, must we wonder why SVG is having
trouble gaining significant traction...?
ANYTHING that gets SVG used is a net gain at this point, irregardless
of whose viewer, whose drawing tools, or on what platform.
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Hi, Rick-
I agree with your sentiment, but given what has been said of the deployment
of SVG-Tiny on the FlashLite viewer, I'm not sure you could say that it *is*
getting SVG used.
Naturally, Macromedia needs to make money, and I don't fault them for that.
And keeping their viewer small may be
Rick Bullotta wrote:
After this type of divisiveness, must we wonder why SVG is having
trouble gaining significant traction...?
What divisiveness? John Dowdell is being his usual liar and spreading
FUD like in Europe, SVG was forced because of 3GPP and as usual hasn't
done any homework,
his usual liar
FUD
hasn't done any homework, checked a single fact
statements that can be easily proven wrong
repeating false statement upon false statement
and
we've been once again more than polite enough
To get my own opinion out of the way, I forwarded the whole thread to
three people
I second that motion! How will we ever get Microsoft on board with all
this squabbling? g
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From: chwenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 3:03 PM
To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [svg-developers] Re: Macromedia SVGT in Flash Lie 1.1
chwenz wrote:
his usual liar
FUD
hasn't done any homework, checked a single fact
statements that can be easily proven wrong
repeating false statement upon false statement
and
we've been once again more than polite enough
I stand by every single one of these statements. Several of us have
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, I'm not sure yet which Flash-enabled phones in Japan are also
SVG-enabled.
OK.
Mr. Troy Evans says:
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/devices/articles/msvg_t.html
The core Flash Lite 1.1 with SVG-T
Dean Jackson wrote:
On 25 Mar 2005, at 10:09, John Dowdell wrote:
Antoine Quint wrote:
[snip]
Dean, Yoshi is trying to view SVG-Tiny content on mobiles in Japan. Do
you have any info which can help him? (I think he's focusing on the
FlashLite rendering of SVG-T files just because Flash
JD, here is some information on SVG Tiny in Japan.
Sharp Corporation has released 5 devices on the Vodafone K.K.
Network in Japan that have the BitFlash SVG Tiny player that suports
SVG Tiny 1.1.
V601SH, V602SH, V603SH, V802SH, V902SH.
The NEC 802 also has SVG support.
The Sony Ericsson
On 24 mars 2005, at 08:24, Yoshihiko Matsumoto wrote:
Please, say where to buy Macromedia SVGTiny telephone in Japan,
own model? I am very sorry for the pressuer! Just because customer
deadline of development trial. My group having the pressuer with
resolved stage by end to month March
Antoine Quint wrote:
John, take it from me, there is not a single phone in this world that
ships with Flash Lite with SVGT parts.
Hmm, so are you actually saying that, with all these companies licensing
and bundling the Macromedia Flash Lite libraries in north Asia, that
*none* of them
On 25 mars 2005, at 00:09, John Dowdell wrote:
... hmm, but hold it, you didn't cite source info, just a take it from
me assurance, so I guess I'm unable to meaningfully evaluate the
veracity of that claim.
My source is the same as yours, Troy Evans from Macromedia. Forgive me
for being up
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Please can somebody this list tell how can I find out the elements
and attribute that support by Macromedia Flash Lie 1.1
implementation SVGT?
It's the SVG-Tiny 1.1 test suite frame:
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Test/20030813/htmlframe/tiny-index.html
This
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Here's the list of which devices ship with which engines:
http://www.macromedia.com/mobile/supported_devices/
No it's not! I have two of the phones on that list, neither of them ship
with Flash Lite, a Flash Lite viewer
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is compatibility and the limitation with SVGT
implementations
on telephones, especially for NTT Docomo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm not sure about DoCoMo... I know SWF content is
Jim Ley wrote:
John Dowdell wrote:
Here's the list of which devices ship with which engines:
http://www.macromedia.com/mobile/supported_devices/
No it's not! I have two of the phones on that list, neither of
them ship with Flash Lite, a Flash Lite viewer could be
installed on
John Dowdell wrote:
Jim Ley wrote:
John Dowdell wrote:
Here's the list of which devices ship with which engines:
No it's not! I have two of the phones on that list, neither of
them ship with Flash Lite, a Flash Lite viewer could be
installed on those phones, but they do not
Robin Berjon wrote:
There's no need for truncation to explain the exchange. You point to a
list of phones that according to you supposedly ship with Flash Lite,
and some of them don't. Are you saying Flash Lite was meant to be there
but somehow got trunctated?
Sorry, although I read it
John Dowdell wrote:
For Can there exist phones on that Flash Lite list which don't include
Flash Lite? then there certainly can -- I don't think all those phones
started their shipping *after* Flash Lite 1.1 was purchased for them,
for instance. But this is the list of those who have paid
On 23 mars 2005, at 21:42, John Dowdell wrote:
Jim Ley wrote:
John Dowdell wrote:
Here's the list of which devices ship with which engines:
http://www.macromedia.com/mobile/supported_devices/
No it's not! I have two of the phones on that list, neither of
them ship with Flash Lite, a
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