Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
Freddie Bingham wrote: The "hi-res" version if Zak that you have is the FM Towns (Japanese PC "Console") 256 color version that is playable on the SCUMM emulator. I do No, it is not. What I have is clearly a 320x200 @ 16 color version, not FM Towns 256-color version. Here is a screenshot of the low-res one most people have: http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/p,2/gameId,305/gameShotId,8122/ ..and here is the same shot from the high-res one: http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/p,2/gameId,305/gameShotId,3579/ And to further bake your noodle, here is a low-res original Maniac Mansion: http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/p,2/gameId,714/gameShotId,8520/ ..and here is the high-res 16-color version: http://www.mobygames.com/game/shots/p,2/gameId,714/gameShotId,30499/ Before you start tearing your hair out, I have verified that the high-res MM was a UK release (go to MobyGames.com and look at the DOS UK release back box, it has the high-res shots on it), and the high-res Zak was a KIXX Australian release. The remaining question: Are the euro high-res versions worth more than the original ones? CURIOUS! -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
In a message dated 02/25/2004 11:39:11 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh I don't really consider those budget re-releases where they throw different games together. Ah, had not read earlier posts, just the last few. This is a strange one though. Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
RE: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
The "hi-res" version if Zak that you have is the FM Towns (Japanese PC "Console") 256 color version that is playable on the SCUMM emulator. I do own a shrinkwrapped copy of this one. I do believe the "enhanced" maniac mansion is the one from DOTT as it was not released on the FM Towns. Freddie > -Original Message- > From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:45 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI > - info and questions > > Freddie Bingham wrote: > > > ** I am almost 100% certain there is no other versions of Zak > > I have (pirated) copies of both a Zak McKracken using the > low-res SCUMM (160x200 graphics) and also redrawn high-res > (320x200) graphics. Based on the file dates and times I am > sure these are different releases. Anyone know more? > > I also have the same type of variation (also pirated) for > Maniac Mansion, although I suspect that the high-res Maniac > Mansion was what was "embedded" in Day of the Tentacle. > Again, anyone have more info? > -- > Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > http://www.oldskool.org/ > Want to help an ambitious games project? > http://www.mobygames.com/ > Or check out some trippy MindCandy at > http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ > > -- > This message was sent to you because you are currently > subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, > send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of > 'unsubscribe swcollect' > Archives are available at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > > -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
Oh I don't really consider those budget re-releases where they throw different games together. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:49 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions In a message dated 02/25/2004 10:45:58 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also have an Australian Zak package with a "frame" border around the front and back. I suppose that could be a further package variation?How about this, "SelectWare" Classic Collection on CD Rom. Includes Zak, Ultima Savage Empire, Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure and "special bonus" Maniac Mansion :)TomVisit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
RE: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
No, THAT would be silly. The CURIOUS Guide will cover ALL games...that are action/strategy games made between 1981 and 1983 for the VIC-20. :-) That was a joke...it will cover any game from 77 - 93 plus any game deemed collectible or interesting after that timeframe. I'm going to send out all of the details to those who are on the committee directly so we don't clutter up this list. If the other people on the committee would please do the same. Once we're done with the first draft, we'll let everyone on SWCollect know the deal. Thanks, Hugh -Original Message- From: Jim Leonard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 8:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions Jukka Eronen wrote: > Is the list going to be only adventures/RPGs or other type of games too? God, I hope not! I would hope it would be pretty much any genre of game. Hugh? -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
> I haven't followed the current gaming for some time; > is either Full Throttle 2 and Sam & Max 2 anymore on production? Yes to the latter, hope they dont mess it up! http://www.lucasarts.com/products/freelancepolice/ -- Howard Feldman, Author of The Search for Freedom A Computer Fantasy Role-Playing Game Visit its Homepage at http://home.golden.net/~feldman/SearchForFreedom/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
In a message dated 02/25/2004 10:45:58 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I also have an Australian Zak package with a "frame" border around the front and back. I suppose that could be a further package variation? How about this, "SelectWare" Classic Collection on CD Rom. Includes Zak, Ultima Savage Empire, Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure and "special bonus" Maniac Mansion :) Tom Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
Jukka Eronen wrote: Is the list going to be only adventures/RPGs or other type of games too? God, I hope not! I would hope it would be pretty much any genre of game. Hugh? -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
Jukka Eronen wrote: But I don't know if you disregarded that there are these 2 one-piece boxes that have different background screenshots (1988 and 1989): I also have an Australian Zak package with a "frame" border around the front and back. I suppose that could be a further package variation? -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
Freddie Bingham wrote: ** I am almost 100% certain there is no other versions of Zak I have (pirated) copies of both a Zak McKracken using the low-res SCUMM (160x200 graphics) and also redrawn high-res (320x200) graphics. Based on the file dates and times I am sure these are different releases. Anyone know more? I also have the same type of variation (also pirated) for Maniac Mansion, although I suspect that the high-res Maniac Mansion was what was "embedded" in Day of the Tentacle. Again, anyone have more info? -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious games project? http://www.mobygames.com/ Or check out some trippy MindCandy at http://www.mindcandydvd.com/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
> Reminds me of when Mindscape used to be here in town (used to be in > Northbrook, IL). I rode there on my bicycle in 1987 when I was stuck in The > Mist and needed hints. The receptionist was surprised when she learned I just > got on my bike and rode about 7 miles to ask questions. It was my turn to be > surprised when she told me that hints to The Mist were $5. I paid, and got > two xerox'd sheets of paper with questions and answers. I still have this > somewhere and could probably dig it up if there is massive demand for it, but > I highly doubt it :) Anyway, that was the "official clue book" for The Mist, > and I know because I got it directly, hand to hand, from Mindscape. I got something like this from ICOM. May have a Mindscape one too, I can't remember. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
> BTW, I noticed you had a pic of the LOTR limited edition Nazgul hologram > - any idea how rare this is? Did you pick it up somewhere or are you > the original owner? These things were expensive so I cant imagine they > sold many?? Is that the one offerred in the Melbourne House game? Can you send me the link, Jukka? I don't believe I've seen it yet. If they didn't sell many they may have had a bunch leftover. I keep hoping to find someone who may have kept a bunch. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
> Do you have both of these? Do you think it is possible that these two > copies are for two different systems, i.e. Amiga or IBM or C64. Yep, as said the ones at this page are from my collection (click on mini pics to enlarge covers): http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/_eng_games_lucasarts.html My C64 versions has that 1988 box and PC has 1989 box. Don't know if Amiga, PC, Atari or other platforms were released in 1988 box too... (Had another Amiga-version earlier and it was 1989 too). I don't want to rip my C64 platform-tape off the Zak cover :) as under that would read some other platform. Yeah, collecting is quite insane :) The previous reminds this; taken from a game forum: 'Rainbow Islands: "The game is sometimes called "Bubble Bobble 2". However, two other games --"Bubble Symphony: The Story of Bubble Bobble 2" and "Bubble Bobble 2"-- claim the same name. Rainbow Islands happens after Bubble Bobble. Bubble Symphony happens after Bubble Memories, which is called Bubble Bobble 3, so Bubble Symphony is really Bubble Bobble 4 or 5. Bubble Bobble 2 also happens after Bubble Memories, so it is either Bubble Bobble 4 or 5. Bubble Symphony's song titles, which refer to Bub and Bob as "Grandfather", are true, then Bubble Symphony is Bubble Bobble 5 and Bubble Bobble 2, which features Robby, the "son", is Bubble Bobble 4. But then again, the intro of Bubble Symphony refers to Bubby and Bobby as the children of Bub and Bob, so Bubble Symphony is Bubble Bobble 4".' (And apparently it doesn't end even there...) - J -- http://koti.mbnet.fi/~psychic/ - Synchronic Web -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
RE: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
I'll include that. Since I only have my sealed copy of Zak, I only have one of them. Do you have both of these? Do you think it is possible that these two copies are for two different systems, i.e. Amiga or IBM or C64. Freddie > -Original Message- > From: Jukka Eronen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 3:25 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI > - info and questions > > [LucasFilm/LucasArts] > >>** I am almost 100% certain there is no other versions of Zak > >Yeah, it's probably time to take that out from my list :) > (Though there > >is that KiXX XL two-piece box, but it doesn't count to me.) > > But I don't know if you disregarded that there are these > 2 one-piece boxes that have different background screenshots > (1988 and 1989): > > http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/pics/gamecollection/big/zak_back.jpg > http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/pics/gamecollection/big/zak_pc_back.jpg > > - J > > -- > http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/eng_index.html - Synchronic Web > > > -- > This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to > the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' > Archives are available at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > > -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
[LucasFilm/LucasArts] >>** I am almost 100% certain there is no other versions of Zak >Yeah, it's probably time to take that out from my list :) >(Though there is that KiXX XL two-piece box, >but it doesn't count to me.) But I don't know if you disregarded that there are these 2 one-piece boxes that have different background screenshots (1988 and 1989): http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/pics/gamecollection/big/zak_back.jpg http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/pics/gamecollection/big/zak_pc_back.jpg - J -- http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/eng_index.html - Synchronic Web -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
Hi!
Is the list going to be only adventures/RPGs or other type of games too?
There are also german and israeli-versions of Lucas games
that I haven't listed (that we discussed last year a bit too)
just because at the moment I don't think to collect them;
I'm collecting way too much at the moment anyways ;)
On the other hand when you collect a lot, there's
rarely more than a brief stop in finding
something you're looking for.
I don't know them all and to include them
would require quite some detective work/time,
so I don't necessarily want to do that right now.
>From top of my head a few:
- Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis (German, with poster of the cover
art)
- Monkey Island (German, disk)
- Loom (Israeli)
- Day of the Tentacle (German)
- Vollgas / Full Throttle (German)
etc...
And I'd surely include The Dig from 1995 as I for one regard it
one of the best adventure games ever made.
The atmosphere and ambient music are brilliant.
The CD soundtrack for it is from 1996.
I'd regard it highly collectible too.
German or some other version of this had a normal bigger
manual, as all the other versions I've seen only have the
CD-sized manual.
BTW they really should make sequal for the game;
though I don't know if it's such a good idea after all
at the current video game market (the lack of inspiriation/brain
and current stage of 3D doesn't attract me at all).
And surely it should be 2D.
I haven't followed the current gaming for some time;
is either Full Throttle 2 and Sam & Max 2 anymore on production?
And I think you're choice for not going for variants after
the newer Lucas-games; they seem like a mess.
F.ex. I have Scandinavian box version of Grim Fandango
and Curse of Monkey Island.
So what I'm saying there might be all kinds Timbuktu-variants or sorts :)
(Not saying that in a negative way or anything.)
(Updating Tolkien-collecting to all the modern platforms would be horrible
too;
PS2, Gameboy, X-Box, Gameboy Advande, Gamecube...
"The horror, the horror...")
> Full Throttle (the attached image) (I need more info on this one)
That's the most common version I'm aware of
("large two-piece high box"); could you inform me too what you mean?-)
Here are my Lucas scans; click to see bigger (if you haven't noticed :):
http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/_fin_games_lucasarts.html
I only know the regular portioned box (more height than width)
and the wide box for it.
>** I am almost 100% certain there is no other versions of Zak
Yeah, it's probably time to take that out from my list :)
(Though there is that KiXX XL two-piece box,
but it doesn't count to me.)
- Jukka
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RE: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
Hi Jukka, I'm the one who is going to manage the Lucasfilm section of the CURIOUS ratings. I do think I have almost everything you have listed on your webpage. I am going to be putting up a webpage that details Lucasfilm/Lucasarts games, focusing on the adventure games with each game receiving its own page with a breakdown of the versions I am aware of. I'll need your help on some of this. When I have it semi-complete I will give you the URL so you can add any information to it. Here is a semi-complete list of what I have: Labyrinth CIB Labyrinth Cassette (CIB) Maniac Mansion (Sealed) First Release, straight letters Maniac Mansion (CIB) First Release, Letters with Meteors Maniac Mansion (Re-Release) Maniac Mansion (CIB) Famicom Maniac Mansion (CIB) NES Maniac Mansion (CIB) NEW Hint Book Zak McKracken (Sealed) Zak McKracken (Sealed) FM Towns Indiana Jones & The Last Crusade (CIB) Indiana Jones & The Last Crusade (CIB) Fm Towns Indiana Jones & the Last Crusade (CIB) Action Game Loom (CIB) Loom (CIB) CD Version Loom (CIB) FM Towns Monkey Island (CIB) Monkey Island (CIB) CD Version Indiana Jones & the Fate of Atlantis (CIB) Monkey Island 2 (CIB) Day of the Tentacle (CIB) Day of the Tentacle (CIB) Triangular Boxed Version (this one --> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3079582111 ) Full Throttle (CIB) Full Throttle (CIB w/ Bandana) Hint Books for all of the games (except the MM Famicom, that is hard one to get) . And so on (Sam & Max, Grim Fandango, etc).. Some things I still need: Labyrinth (Famicom) Indiana Jones & The Fate of Atlantis (FM Towns) Monkey Island (FM Towns) Monkey Island 2 (FM Towns) Full Throttle (the attached image) (I need more info on this one) Monkey Island Sega CD ** I am almost 100% certain there is no other versions of Zak I can get the FM Towns games at any time really, but only if I wish to pay $200+ each for them. The FM Towns monkey island games are the rarest where Loom is the most common. Thanks Freddie <>
RE: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
In this case I'd define a lurker as someone who's never posted to the list
at all...
Any grues lurking? : )
Stuart
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Lurkers? Where? :)
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> Jim Leonard schrieb:
>
> > > BTW, how many people are on this list approximately?
> >
> > Over 40.
>
> Is that so? Then we must have many lurkers.
>
> Marco
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Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
Lurkers? Where? :) - Original Message - From: "Marco Thorek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions > Jim Leonard schrieb: > > > > BTW, how many people are on this list approximately? > > > > Over 40. > > Is that so? Then we must have many lurkers. > > Marco > > -- > This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to > the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' > Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
Marco Thorek wrote: Hehe, how old were you Jim, can't beleive they charged you $5 after you rode all that way and being a kid and all. Yup, they should have rewarded his determination. In retrospect, they should have. I was playing the DOS version, which had a typo in the damn dictionary and was therefore unwinnable unless you typed something like "push hadnle" (instead of "handle"). I don't remember the exact typo, but it was near the very end. Because of this I still never won the game until a hacker friend of mine told me he found the typo when he also got stuck and loaded the game into a debugger to cheat :) This was almost a decade later. -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > > In a message dated 02/25/2004 12:51:19 AM Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > The receptionist was surprised when she learned I just > > got on my bike and rode about 7 miles to ask questions. It was my > > turn to be > > surprised when she told me that hints to The Mist were $5. > > Hehe, how old were you Jim, can't beleive they charged you $5 after > you rode all that way and being a kid and all. Yup, they should have rewarded his determination. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
Jim Leonard schrieb: > > BTW, how many people are on this list approximately? > > Over 40. Is that so? Then we must have many lurkers. Marco -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hehe, how old were you Jim, can't beleive they charged you $5 after you I was 16 actually. Didn't get my license until 17 ;-) Phantasie I and II. Plus found letters answering specific questions from Sir Tech and Sierra. I also have handwritten/signed letter from Richard Garriott regarding some suggestions I made for Ultima VII and upcoming games. Guess it's time to move this stuff to collection eh? Am I a pack rat or what? :) Personal (or professional) correspondence from gamers is always cool. You should scan them and put them online in a gallery or something. -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
Jukka Eronen wrote: Thanks for all the answers and welcomes! (I would have joined sooner, but as Feldman said, one had to find here :) BTW, how many people are on this list approximately? Over 40. -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
In a message dated 02/25/2004 12:51:19 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The receptionist was surprised when she learned I just got on my bike and rode about 7 miles to ask questions. It was my turn to be surprised when she told me that hints to The Mist were $5. Hehe, how old were you Jim, can't beleive they charged you $5 after you rode all that way and being a kid and all. I do remember using Sierra's hint line a few times for KQ IV. Ran up almost $20 bill, NEVER did that again. By the way found two of my SSI "hint sheets". Both one page, Phantasie I and II. Plus found letters answering specific questions from Sir Tech and Sierra. I also have handwritten/signed letter from Richard Garriott regarding some suggestions I made for Ultima VII and upcoming games. Guess it's time to move this stuff to collection eh? Am I a pack rat or what? :) Tom Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
Re: [SWCollect] Sierra/Lucas/Tolkien/Ultima/AD&D/SSI - info and questions
Thanks for all the answers and welcomes!
(I would have joined sooner, but as Feldman said, one had to find here :)
BTW, how many people are on this list approximately?
Stefan Lindblom wrote:
>I have most of the SSI catalogues, but not
>the ones from 1981, let me know if you want me to take pics or so.
I'd appreciate that very much; I have pics of these 22
catalogs at the moment:
http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/_fin_collecting_ssifantasy.html
Josh Lulewicz wrote:
>I believe I have all of the Sierra catalogs, I just haven't put them up on
my site yet.
>- And which games include those early catalogs?
>>Most of the early On-Line Systems games included catalogs.
What about 1983-86 ?
None of my games have catalogs from that period
but that could be bad luck
(King's Quest III gray is sealed so don't know about that).
Some registration cards do have lists of games.
Josh Lulewicz wrote:
>The 1992 catalog has King Graham near a bridge
>to Dr. Brain's castle and a plane flying overhead.
>It says "Big $avings Inside" in the lower right hand corner.
>It came with just about every game released toward
>the end of 1991 and most of 1992.
I've thought that as of 1991 catalog; that explains a lot.
So they used it for that long.
I think I have two variations of it;
one is wider (probably US) than the other (Europe).
Will have to check.
So it's probably 1990 I'm after; I know these,
any other from that year because the first is not
a regular catalog and the other is a small tri-fold:
- New Creations from Sierra: A Sierra News Magazine Reprint (Fall 1990)
- Sierra - Amiga only
Howard Feldman wrote:
> I have (pics of) the 86 and 87 ones but dont have a Spring 88 or 89 -
> these probably dont exist (sinc eI have gone through a LOT of SSI games
> from this era and never had one).
I'll have to find the source again but at least
they were mentioned somewhere; I wouldn't have
put them on my list otherwise.
Howard Feldman wrote:
> > 2. Did these SSI AD&D-games have clue books:
> > * Neverwinter Nights (1991)
> > * War of the Lance (1989)
> > * DragonStrike (1990)
>
> Nope. These games are not amenable to clue books really since they are
> action/strategy games (the last two anyways)
Dragons of Flame and Heroes of the Lance have clue books
and their action, so one couldn't be sure.
Though the latter is only couple of pages long/short.
Howard Feldman wrote:
> I have SSI catalogs from 1984 onwards - I'm not sure how many catalogs
> exist prior to this, but probably only conatining their war games (which
> I dont collect
I don't collect the war games either, but I try to collect
those early catalogs too (and prototype box shots of them too to my page).
There's something fascinating about catalogs :).
The alternative/unreleased covers they sometimes include
are surely the most interesting.
And f.ex. this is great work of art was used only as a cover for
a catalog (to best of my knowledge); that shows class from SSI:
http://koti.mbnet.fi/psychic/pics/gamecollection/catalogs/ssi_spring1986_big
jpg
Could the art be derived from some SSI fantasy game
(or just something they didn't find other use for) ?
The figure on the left is probably the only indicator
if it's on some game too.
BTW off-topic; anyone having old Walt Disney Home Video catalogs?
Mainly looking for rental catalogs, if such exist (I'd sure think they
would).
Web links are welcome too.
Josh Lulewicz wrote:
[Blue & white Softporn]
>I don't know of anyone that has this.
>I have spoken to a few ex-Sierra people and none of them remember it.
>All they know of is the Roberta/Hot-tub version.
>It is quite possible that it was just a mock up made
>for that picture of games (featured in the 10th Anniversary catalog).
That's an interesting point.
Though even as a mock-up, it sure would be interesting to see
as whole and surely doesn't diminish it's collecting value :)
Well, actually I'd give half of my game collection for
Lord of the Rings: Journey to Rivendell -protoype box ("mock-up").
(A bit exaggarated.)
>BTW, I noticed you had a pic of the LOTR limited edition Nazgul hologram
>- any idea how rare this is? Did you pick it up somewhere or are you
>the original owner? These things were expensive so I cant imagine they
>sold many??
I bought it couple of monts ago from UK.
It was only available for purchasers of LOTR: Game One
in Great Britain, Channel Island and the Isle of Mann
(that last place always amuses me; if you've seen
The Fast Show you know what I mean :).
I don't know anyone else who owns one.
This is the regular version; the price mentioned
in for a deluxe-one is outrageous.
My PC-version of LOTR: Game One -manual (was it 1987?)
doesn't include the offer anymore.
Though the product itself isn't as classy as one would expect.
The wooden frame is poorly/uneavenly cut
and it bothers a bit that Nazgul is handwritten
just like that as it should be Nazgûl.
At least Tolkien doesn't write it any other way.
I have LOTR as a text file where I jus
Re: [SWCollect] Presenting the reincarnated Computer/Book RPG/Adventure Museum
Hi! Excellent update on your site! Seems faster too. It's just great to browse the many old cool game and fantasy covers not to be found anywhere else on the net. And all those item pics are honorable. Though there is this one thing still; I sometimes like to open the page in a new window that you don't have to load the whole game page every time you go back and forth, but it throws you back to the main page and you have to go back to where you were from scratch. Is this intentional or due to the progamming language? BTW the last update says 2003. 2 gigs... I have to do with a 50 meg limit and it's a pain :) (high compression etc.) PS. I'm glad you put Tolkien under its own branch :) Lucas could use one too (I'd include Labyrinth [which is the coolest Lucas-cover ever] under that). - Jukka -- http://koti.mbnet.fi/~psychic/ - Synchronic Web - Original Message - From: Howard Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 5:24 AM Subject: [SWCollect] Presenting the reincarnated Computer/Book RPG/Adventure Museum > After several months, I finally found a host for my 2 GB+ museum > website. I ended up sticking it on a buddy's computer, go figure. It > should be fine as long as I don't end up sucking too much of his > bandwidth since he has a limit. Anyhow, please update your links, for > those of you who were linked to me before, and please check it out and > let you know what you think. It is now entirely PHP/MySQL driven, and > pretty fast and bug free I think. Its new home is here: > > http://vgmuseum.chaoticmonkey.com/ > > (for reference, the old link was > http://bioinfo.mshri.on.ca/people/feldman/vgmuseum/, which can still be > reached for now at http://deep.mshri.on.ca/people/feldman/vgmuseum/) > > -- > -- > Howard Feldman, Author of The Search for Freedom > A Computer Fantasy Role-Playing Game > Visit its Homepage at http://home.golden.net/~feldman/SearchForFreedom/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
