BGP is the routing protocol of choice in the international world.
If your route is on xDSL and flaps, it has an effect to the whole
world who uses full routing tables, That's a gazillon of routers out
there and in that scenario it doesnt matter if you use a full or
partial routing table. thi
Hey you're all implying BGP = full routing table.
BGP with just a single default route on a cheap link may be a good idea.
A proven L3 link failure detection mechanism implemented on a wide
range of boxes (standardized!)
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> Talking about a small local ISP we helped put together, we used some
> relatively low-end pc's running OpenBSD+OpenBGPd on flashdist (openbsd
> read-only on DiskOnModule flash disk). This was about 3 years ago. The
> machine has a Celeron 2.4Ghz and 512Mb of RAM, and today, getting full
> r
Andreas Fink a écrit :
>
> Thats probably the reason why on a NPE-300 processor you can not stick
> more than 512MB of RAM because it would not be fast enough to handle
> it anyway. So then you go and buy a NPE-G1 or now a NPE-G2 and you end
> up with a few thousand CHF bill.
>
> Now multiply th
well i wonder really, whats so bad about dsl ? xdsl is not enough specific,
ghdsl, sdsl, hdsl ..
that are all leased line version of dsl. if that troubles even the SC modem
will trouble.
i brought my link up .. and it stayed up for years, except as in front of TIX-1
the cables where
under wat
Lukas Beeler wrote:
> Now, even expensive FB-DIMM memory by vendors like HP and IBM only
> costs around 360 CHF for 4 GB. And even small two way x86 boxes max
> out at around 32 - 48 GB. Even if Cisco and Juniper charge 10x as
> much, that'd still be only 3600 CHF.
>
> I understand that routers us
On 05.03.2009, at 19:28, Lukas Beeler wrote:
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 19:08, Fredy Kuenzler
wrote:
Remember http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog7/BGP_filtering-swinog.ppt
- in
I just skimmed through that, and i wonder if it's still current.
There's some talk about requiring about 128MB of
On Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:08:08 +0100
Fredy Kuenzler wrote:
> Everybody: please don't offer BGP over DSL polluting the BGP table for CHF
> 20 or 40 net revenue. There are other redundancy options and backup
> solutions using xDSL.
BGP over SDSL works fine. But you shouldn't run BGP over a BBCS
conn
Lukas Beeler schrieb:
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 19:08, Fredy Kuenzler wrote:
>> Remember http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog7/BGP_filtering-swinog.ppt
>> - in
>
> I just skimmed through that, and i wonder if it's still current.
Yes it is. Of course BOGONs are outdated, but the concept is still v
Lukas Beeler wrote:
[..]
> I understand that routers use ASICs and probably faster memory than
> servers, but i can't really imagine it to be a problem to pop 4GB
> memory into a router that's connected directly to the internet.
>
> Now, where am i mistaken?
The fact that you then also have to ha
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Behalf Of Fredy Kuenzler
Sent: Donnerstag, 5. März 2009 19:08
To: swi...@swinog.ch
Subject: Re: [swinog] BGP over xDSL ... is evil? says who?
Reza Kordi schrieb:
> Thank you all for the cool ideas and even better quotes that I received
> today.
>
> Of course I understand that som
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 19:08, Fredy Kuenzler wrote:
> Remember http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog7/BGP_filtering-swinog.ppt - in
I just skimmed through that, and i wonder if it's still current.
There's some talk about requiring about 128MB of memory, and budget
concerns of smaller ISPs.
Now,
Reza Kordi schrieb:
> Thank you all for the cool ideas and even better quotes that I received
> today.
>
> Of course I understand that some comments were coming from those who are
> making their profits specially on BGP interconnects.
>
> "If you need BGP buy my expensive LL is the wrong idea p
Stanislav Sinyagin schrieb:
> Fredy, if I remember it right, about a year ago you mentioned that Init7
> is deploying the ULL presence?
We considered it after doing the ULL pilot, but due to business opportunity
considerations we cancelled ULL (copper) deployments.
F.
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Behalf Of Fredy Kuenzler
Sent: Donnerstag, 5. März 2009 17:50
To: swi...@swinog.ch
Subject: Re: [swinog] BGP over xDSL ... is evil
Reza Kordi schrieb:
> Do you know if anybody offers a VDSL upstream wit
mation provide.
-Original Message-
From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch on behalf of Fredy Kuenzler
Sent: Thu 05.03.2009 17:50
To: swi...@swinog.ch
Subject: Re: [swinog] BGP over xDSL ... is evil
Reza Kordi schrieb:
> Do you know if anybody offers a VDSL upstream with BGP dynamic routing?
, but rather a leased line with low SLA :)
- Original Message
> From: Fredy Kuenzler
> To: swi...@swinog.ch
> Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 5:50:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [swinog] BGP over xDSL ... is evil
>
> Reza Kordi schrieb:
> > Do you know if anybody of
Reza Kordi schrieb:
> Do you know if anybody offers a VDSL upstream with BGP dynamic routing?
>
> Customer is in ZUG city.
how evil ... serious: BGP over L2TP dial up infrastructure (yes, xDSL over
BBCS _is_ dialup) should not be implemented. We got several inquiries in the
past years and refused
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