hi fermin
it depends on your AGB what the user is allowed to do and what not.
i think that banning dynamic ip pool ranges (lets say via RBL dynablocker,
etc.) is a temporarely solution to keep spam away.
i know a lot of customers that use exchange servers and use isdn routers
that connects each
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Behalf Of Zalaba, Mike
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 5:52 PM
English (translatet by http://babelfish.altavista.com)
i will answer to the german text, because the babelfish translation is more
than a joke. don't
hi kurt again :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Kurt A. Schumacher
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 8:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt
because of Spam blocks
Feel
hi kurt
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Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2003 7:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt
because of Spam blocks
Don't know
hi andre
My position is this:
If you run any kind of free-dial service where you don't have any
direct identification or signed contract with your customer, then
you almost must run some kind of SPAM-block.
If you don't do free-dial service and you have identification of
your customer and
Hya!
Has anyone c7200 portadapter blank panels, which are not used anymore?
Please contact me off-list!
thanks,
michel
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On Thursday 30 October 2003 09:16, Steven Glogger wrote:
I agree fully with your position. this is also the same position i
have. maybe we should consider, that if you provder free-dial services
(without identification of customer) to block SMTP completely.
Why not ? There could be another
hi erich
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Erich Hohermuth
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 9:49 AM
Full ack. We all know since Swinog 7, that Free could mean Free Beer or
Freedom...
this leads me to the question if the internet is GPL
Hi everybody,
we are searching for
- 2x 24-Port SDSL Cards for a DSLMAX
or
- 2x MAX2000
- 3x 16-Port SDSL Cards für MAX2000
does anyone knows where to get this stuff? maybe someone have some used
devices and wants to sell them...
Regards,
Tobias
Tobias Glasow
* on the Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 09:56:46AM +0100, Steven Glogger wrote:
this leads me to the question if the internet is GPL or public domain?
or is it unter M$ license (aarghs)
Its under a BSD-License. So feel free to put up an alternate commercial
internet ;)
Seegras
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While talking a little bit annoyed about taxes:
...at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 30.10 9:13
Sorry, this is NO REASON to run a mail server behind a dial-up IP
line.
That's a children's solution for
wantobecracksorselfdesignatedexperts -
roughly how my children (2nd Kindergarten and 2nd class) are playing
with
SMTP/POP/IMAP servers these days.
companies
I can arrange cards and chassis out of the bankruptcy of kpnqwest
Pls send me your offer off list
Regards
Peter preuss
Am 30.10.2003 9:57 Uhr schrieb Tobias Glasow unter [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi everybody,
we are searching for
- 2x 24-Port SDSL Cards for a DSLMAX
or
- 2x MAX2000
-
sorry, should be off list..argh...my fault
-steven
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Steven Glogger
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 10:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [swinog] Looking for Ascend/Lucent DSL Equipment
hi peter
Steven,
Meine grossmutter haette gesagt: wie die alt fasnacht.
Noe, das zeug ist seit mehr als 9 monaten wech.
Hat noch nortel (ATMSDH), oni/ciena, ascend/lucent, ein gps clocking teil
und ein grosser haufen patchpanels
kontakt: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cu
Pap
Am 30.10.2003 10:29 Uhr schrieb Steven
For those who don't read the LINX mailinglist:
snip
TIX Zurich, Switzerland
IP Address - 194.42.48.58
NO LONGER PEERING HERE!
/snip
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Hi Steven
Thanks for your answer and sorry about TOFU - OWA is a pain ;-).
Re: AGB - sure, but: If the service is *free*, the user shouldn't really complain
about SMTP not being available.
Re: Paying dial-up customers: I'm sure they appreciate the situation with SPAM and
will not object
Starting when?
194.42.48.584 15169 349769 365434 3481731100 3w6d2
Still up'n'running... ;-)
Cheers,
Viktor
On Thursday 30 October 2003 10:39, Erich Hohermuth wrote:
For those who don't read the LINX mailinglist:
snip
TIX Zurich, Switzerland
IP Address -
this is google
well, they dont have their AS number (registered @arin) anymore..
the peerin's still up (getting 2 prefixes)
i wait until it goes down :) thx for info :)
-steven
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Sent:
heya boys and girls
it's time for our fantastic and fabulous beer event :)
stony has chosen date and location ;-) so, let's have fun at the Johanniter
;-)
please register really fast... gonna make ASAP reservation
Next Event:
Date: 3th of November (Monday)
Time: starting around 18.30
Peter Keel wrote:
and every SMTP port 25 traffic (or whatever required in the future) can
perfectly be forwarded to a designated server WITHOUT a possibility for
an intervention on the so called customer side.
Look, I wouldn't want my ISP to do that kind of bollocks, like
auto-proxying me.
Same here, up with 2 prefixes. Wait and see...
Still concerning the TIX, anybody have news from AS15398
aut-num: AS15398
as-name: CYBERCORE-AS
descr:LocalBone CyberCore Autonomous System
descr:LocalBone CyberCore Services
descr:Ideen Werft22 GmbH
descr:
???
they certainly still have their ASN in ARIN and RADB:
Search results for: 15169
OrgName:Google Inc.
OrgID: GOGL
Address:2400 E. Bayshore Parkway
City: Mountain View
StateProv: CA
PostalCode: 94043
Country:US
ASNumber: 15169
ASName: GOOGLE
ASHandle: AS15169
Hello
We do have with one of our Routers this problems
Does anyone has an idea what that could be?
...after 'debug all'... :)
*
Router1 MLP: Lost fragment 1a 219494
MLP: Packet discarded (unable to coalesce)
Se0/0 MLP-FS: I seq C0219801 size 58
0xFF 0x3 0x0 0x3D
Hey Boys and Girls
What about a BE in Geneva? - I'm waiting for proposals.
On ne pourrait pas copyer cet ide et organiser un apro Genve? J'attends des
propositions.
Wie waers mit einem Beer Event in Genf? Vorschlaege vorhanden?
Greetings / salutations / Gruss
Manfred
On ne pourrait pas copyer cet ide et organiser un apro Genve?
J'attends des propositions.
entre Geneve et Lausanne :-) y a pas mal de monde qui vient de Lausanne.
D'habitude on se fait une bouffe en fin d'annee aux allentours de Nyon.
a+
Pascal
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Hi guys
Zurich has a BE, Geneva is planning a BE... why not a BE also in Berne?
Feedback is very welcome :o)
regards,
mike
From: Guentensperger, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 12:00 PM
To: '[EMAIL
[EMAIL PROTECTED](~) whois -h whois.arin.net AS15169
No match found for AS 15169.
# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-10-29 19:15
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
its not your client. you cant query AS1234 on whois.arin.net, you need to
query 1234
Good idea !
Nyon is a good deal between Geneva and Lausanne.
Why don't call it SwiNOG-WVE (white-vine event) ? :))
Cheers,
Jerome
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part de Pascal Gloor
Envoy : jeudi, 30. octobre 2003 11:58
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
solved
my client changed for arin queries.
before i could give over: ASx , now i have to remove the 'AS' from the
number...
-steven
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Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 11:53 AM
To: [EMAIL
Title: RE: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE8 - Beer Event 8 - 3h of November @ Restaurant Johanniter @ Central
Heya,
BE sounds so great.
But i propose not only to change the location but also the weekday.
I hate it to be out on Monday. (Maybe i'm only too old for that ;-))
What do you think?
Cheers,
Peter Keel wrote:
You're mixing up two issues:
* Free or Unregistered dialup
* Situations where you know your customer.
Anybody using free dialups must cope with certain restrictions,
But you said 'Free' or 'Unregistered' dialup. Someone earlier
mentioned DSL/cable connections. Are
Hi
Ever heard about PGP? As long as my mail is PGP encrypted, I'd invite about any agency
to take their best shot at it. For customers who don't want to send encrypted mail (or
are not capable of), there's still the possibility to get an xDSL-Connection with a
static IP address. imo Providers
* on the Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 01:43:08PM +0100, Fermin Sanchez wrote:
Ever heard about PGP?
Ever heard of profiling communication-patterns? You'd need an anonymizer
to completely get rid of this possibility, but if you run your own
mailserver, chances are much lower. And besides you can't use
Title: Re: [swinog] Mailempfang wegen SPAM blockiert / Mail receipt because of Spam blocks
hi
fermin
what
the hell has PGP with SMTP to do? it uses the same
communication channel ;-)
And
more: what the hell has PGP with SPAM to do??
greetzs
steven
PGP:
Hallo,
Fermin Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Ever heard about PGP?
PGP/GPG don't help, because they encrypt the content, and the providers
save the randdaten like IP,From,To,Time usw. but not the conntent,
they don't have to save the conntent but they can.
Anonymous mailing is
Hello Steven
Hm - probably got carried away a bit at that ;-). Just imagine, Mr. Fürst downloading
my PGP public key and sending me a personalized, encrypted commercial mail offering me
a - gosh! - pair of black socks ;-). Would probably make it through my first two
anti-spam layers :-|
* on the Thu, Oct 30, 2003 at 01:53:32PM +0100, Fermin Sanchez wrote:
It's not as if I'd have anything to hide about my communications partners.
Yeah, the usual killer-argument. Sadly enough, it doesn't matter whether
you've got something illegal to hide or not, because those who spy aren't
Hi,
On Thursday 30 October 2003 13:53, Fermin Sanchez wrote:
[PGP in mailing lists]
Without wanting to start some kind of jihad of emailing here:
Information on mailing lists is seldom quite that sensitive.
Well, assume there are 1000 subscribers in a mailing list... would you
really want to
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Hash: SHA1
hi guys
does somebody have a hint how to get vrrp to work between a 7500 and
an m40 ?
the juniper stays always in master state :( even when changing the
priority
thanks
alain
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Version: PGP 8.0.2
Hi,
I'm for Nyon too. But I know only a good pizzeria there, and a good
chocolatier/tearoom.
What about pubs/bars?
Cheers,
Stan
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Don't know if this helps, but I have VRRP on my foundrys configured as
follows:
ip vrrp-extended vrid 2
backup priority 50
non-preempt-mode
advertise backup
ip-address 217.8.193.1
enable
and on the other router
ip vrrp-extended vrid 2
backup
non-preempt-mode
ip-address
we could plan the beer event at the same time in switzerland :)
and make a live broadcasting from ZH - GVA - BE ;-)
-steven
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Behalf Of Stanislav Sinyagin
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 2:29 PM
To: [EMAIL
here it come a great interesting things...;-))
For my part Nyon will be very nice.
rgrds
Le jeudi, 30 oct 2003, à 14:33 Europe/Zurich, Steven Glogger a écrit :
we could plan the beer event at the same time in switzerland :)
and make a live broadcasting from ZH - GVA - BE ;-)
-steven
Right. I'll do that by summing up my point of view:
1. Providers should by default block port 25 outgoing for their 'free internet'
dial-up customers.
2. Paying customers, either dial-up or xDSL from dynamic IP ranges should be forced to
use the provider's SMTP smart host. Some rules on that
Hello Matthias
You must have misunderstood my mail, or else I wasn't very clear: I did not suggest
encrypting the content of mailing lists.
Regards
Fermin
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Matthias Blaser
Sent: Thu 10/30/03 14:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello
I know, I know - nobody watches them. imo life is much better withoug worrying all
the time what Migros etc. might do with the data they gather from my kumulus card
etc. Wondering about such things just isn't worth my time. I'm subscribed to siug,
too, though - probably means a small
Hi,
Geneva or Nyon is perfect for me too
Fred
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From: Manfred Flck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 3:25 PM
Subject: [swinog] SwiNOG-BEG1 - Beer Event 1 in GVA
Following the huge response, everybody would like to meet in
Title: RE: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE1 - Beer Event 1 in GVA ??
Anybody up for coding an ip beer encapsulation, so we could do some real-time beer exchange ?
Christian
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From: Steven Glogger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 2:34 PM
To: [EMAIL
Maybe you'll find it here : http://www.nyon.ch/html/tourisme/txloisir.html#bars
The only home-brewed beer place i know is Bar des Brasseurs.
Bye,
Jerome
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part de Stanislav Sinyagin
Envoye : jeudi, 30. octobre
Title: RE: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE1 - Beer Event 1 in GVA ??
hahahahahaha...
Maybe we need some sort of BWT (Beer-Wine-translation) based on..hmm..promilles maybe ?
Ohh, wait, we could extend the functionality of NAT for a more generic solution..
NAT = Network - Alcohol - Translation
Christian
Beer DDos' are usually predictable - they happen usually on events such as
bachelor partys (Polterabend) and military social events (e.g.
Kompanieabend).
But still if a DDos can be predicted, there's not always a way to stop
it... :-)
Viktor
On Thursday 30 October 2003 16:15, Steven Glogger
Zurich has a BE, Geneva is planning a BE... why not a BE also in Berne?
Feedback is very welcome :o)
BE^2 sounds good ;-)
Locations ... Dramdepot? Federal? (Egger bier!), Glaskasten auf grosser
Schanze? Gut Gelaunt @Loebeggä? ...
greetings nik
--- Jerome Tissieres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe you'll find it here : http://www.nyon.ch/html/tourisme/txloisir.html#bars
The only home-brewed beer place i know is Bar des Brasseurs.
That's actually it!
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* Free or Unregistered dialup
* Situations where you know your customer.
Anybody using free dialups must cope with certain restrictions,
But you said 'Free' or 'Unregistered' dialup. Someone earlier
mentioned DSL/cable connections. Are those what you'd consider
'unregistered'? I'd agree with
but what about a DDos? ;-)
can you explain me how to use a riverhead box for that situation? :)
-steven
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Andre Oppermann
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 4:12 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:
Common Carrier in the sense that someone is obliged to offer
certain types of connectivity: No, not for Internet (some issues
with Swisscom and Voice [Grundversorgungsauftrag] do not concern
Data traffic, although this may change with the upcoming revision
of telecommunication law
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