t-and-f: Re: empirical evidence

2001-04-29 Thread Jon Entine
et alone a scientist, would dispute. On 4/29/01 12:59 PM, "t-and-f-digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:18:03 -0700 > From: Richard McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: t-and-f: Empirical evidence > >> Date: Thu, 26 A

Re: t-and-f: Re: empirical evidence

2001-04-30 Thread Jon Entine
my book, send a check to the address below. Regards, -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

t-and-f: Flat earth Creationism

2001-04-30 Thread Jon Entine
that they would be champion runners, then god bless youyou have the makings of a flat-earth Creationist!! > > Richard McCann -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

ARGH!! Re: t-and-f: Flat earth Creationism

2001-04-30 Thread Jon Entine
; is likely, to say that it is impossible is ignorant. Fact is Mr. Entine, > there were Europeans and Americans 20-30 years ago who would still be very > competitive in today's running world. Mark Nenow's 10k time would still put > him in the top 10 each year. > > Alan -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

t-and-f: Follow the money?

2001-04-30 Thread Jon Entine
or the Americans what they've allocated for the Kenyans, and vise > versa, would the Kenyan genes "fade" and American "genes" reappear. YUP. > YU-BETCHA. > > Don't see any Kenyan corporations supporting American runners do you? In > fact, I don't beli

t-and-f: Population differences in Europe

2001-05-01 Thread Jon Entine
nners, US would dominate distance running like they do basketball. > > Oleg "yet another 'flat-earth creationist'?" > > - -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Derderian > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 8:04 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: t-and-f: Follow the money was- Flat earth Creationism -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

Re: t-and-f: Follow the money?....one last post...I promise..:)

2001-05-01 Thread Jon Entine
gt; the 800m. So, as I said before even some Kenyans have a high concentration > of fast-twitch fibers. > > Alan > __ -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

Re: t-and-f: Follow the money?....one last post...I promise..:)

2001-05-01 Thread Jon Entine
and fast twitch fibers. Could it be 'gasp' > that the Kenyans vary just as much as everyone else? I believe our best 800m > runners are running the 400m right now, but have no desire to run 800s > because they would tarnish their appeal. If MJ developed any sort of aerobic > b

t-and-f: Soccer??

2001-05-01 Thread Jon Entine
> how can we still argue that Kenyans cannot be competitive in soccer because > of their body types? > > What great Western African soccer teams are we talking about? > Cameroon and Nigeria had a few good moments, but on the world scale...? > > Oleg. -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

Re: t-and-f: Follow the money was- Flat earth Creationism

2001-05-01 Thread Jon Entine
rmance of home grown stars and rise in > performance of little African fellows. Would more people run Chicago if they > knew there was a good chance of a record being set? How much of a draw is it > to run in a race in which someone sets a record? Seems to me like the > fastest marathons

t-and-f: Re: t-and-f-digest V1 #3595

2001-05-02 Thread Jon Entine
pete in track and field than Americans who have not only > athletic endeavors but run of the mill jobs that earn more with greater > stability of income. > > > Richard McCann > > -- -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

Re: t-and-f: Follow the money?....one last post...I promise..:)

2001-05-02 Thread Jon Entine
rofile. Period." > > -- > Jon Entine > > > Which profile would you pigeonhole Alberto Juantorena? Question mark. Or > exclamation point? > > > > > -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

t-and-f: Re: t-and-f-digest V1 #3597

2001-05-02 Thread Jon Entine
On 5/2/01 5:04 PM, "t-and-f-digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 09:51:51 -0700 > From: Richard McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: t-and-f: Follow the money?one last post...well I guess not > >> From: Jon Entine <

t-and-f: Individuals vs. groups

2001-05-03 Thread Jon Entine
On 5/3/01 8:01 AM, "t-and-f-digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 09:46:58 +0100 > From: Randall Northam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: t-and-f: Jon Entine > > Two statements by Jon Entine written in different postings recently &g

t-and-f: Healthy skepticism

2001-05-03 Thread Jon Entine
ominant factor how they are born. Š I don¹t see this as a racist issue.² On 5/3/01 10:34 AM, "t-and-f-digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I do not disagree with Jon Entine outright on any issue as such. Nor am I > ignorant about statistics. I remain open-mind

Re: t-and-f: Follow the money?....one last post...well I guess not

2001-05-03 Thread Jon Entine
On 5/3/01 11:58 AM, "Richard McCann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 09:01 PM 5/2/2001 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote.. >> Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 18:02:17 -0700 >> From: Jon Entine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Try to grasp the difference between INDIVI

t-and-f: Never??

2001-05-04 Thread Jon Entine
> Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 15:55:56 > From: "alan tobin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: t-and-f: Jon Entine, can we get over this discussion? > > Even I am growing tired of this...:) Doesn't matter how many examples we put > out it will always be responded

t-and-f: Re: New thread regarding the Entine book

2001-05-05 Thread Jon Entine
THINK in spite of political incorrectness, in > order to get truth out in the open? WhereEVER the truth > turns out to be... > Jon's approach sometimes seems to be in-the-face > confrontation...or maybe I'm confusing his discussion > technique with the responses he often stimulates... > ... is that the best way to get the dialogue on a 'taboo' > topic out in the open? I'm not sure I know the answer. > It seems to have succeeded in stimulating a lot of > discussion on this list, but how well does that approach > work elsewhere? > > RT -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

t-and-f: Re: Fast twitch/slow twitch question?

2001-05-05 Thread Jon Entine
d T & F education I can't say that I agree 100 > percent to their theory. > > Since I am not an expert, I am looking for those in > the "know" to just clarify things for me. I'm not > trying to prove anyone wrong, but I just want to be > 100 percent positive on my facts when I present my > case. :) > > Paul Nisius > Bigfork, MN -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

t-and-f: FW: A final reply-but private

2001-05-07 Thread Jon Entine
I thought the list might like to see some of the silly responses I get off line (thankfully, most responders aren't quite this insecure). Note that the poster offers not one iota of evidence to support his innuendos--not one. Pretty sad. -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hill

t-and-f: McCann's latest jihad

2001-05-07 Thread Jon Entine
HROPSHIRE, Professor of Legal Studies, University of Pennsylvania ADELE WESTON, School of Sport Science, University of Sydney Faculty of Health Sciences, AUSTRALIA -- Forwarded Message From: Richard McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 10:36:39 -0700 To: Jon Entine <

Re: t-and-f: FW: A final reply-but private

2001-05-07 Thread Jon Entine
re there is no greater good in what you have done. I hope that you will > be reprimanded by the current list supervisor. What you have done is > typical of how people treat this medium. AND it is wrong. I respectfully > request that you apologize to Mr. McCann and the list for this breech

t-and-f: Nature vs. nature

2001-05-08 Thread Jon Entine
the danger of skin cancer. In northern latitudes, a lower level of melanin maximizes the production of vitamin D. Hope this clarifies some of the points of debate and makes it clear that behavior ( and athletic performance) is a bio-social phenomenon. -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills

t-and-f: Tim Noake's speech

2001-05-08 Thread Jon Entine
This is the link to Tim Noakes' speech before the World Congress on Medicine and Health July/August 2000. I think it will help clarify many of these important issues. http://www.jonentine.com/reviews/world_congress_MM.htm -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818

t-and-f: Bengt Saltin (and others) on muscle fiber type

2001-05-21 Thread Jon Entine
urce: Andersen, Jesper L., Peter Schjerling, and Bengt Saltin. 2000. Muscle, Genes and Athletic Performance. Scientific American 283: 49-55. -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

Re: t-and-f: Bengt Saltin (and others) on muscle fiber type

2001-05-25 Thread Jon Entine
ics, training, and luck. > > Don't remember what the point of this post was. I guess I agree with Jon to > an extent. > > Alan > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

t-and-f: Re: How much talent/genetics do you need?

2001-05-26 Thread Jon Entine
ool but got > more talented as time went on. > > Alan > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

t-and-f: Re: How much talent/genetics do you need?

2001-05-26 Thread Jon Entine
it an > entire career before they reach the same level. Same level, different > timespan in reaching it. Just food for thought. > > Interesting conversations Jon. Hey, I love discussing this stuff. I'm working on a book now on male/female differences!! > > Alan > > _

t-and-f: Young phenom's

2001-05-29 Thread Jon Entine
on in '87 (I believe) through the first half? I never heard anything about any of them since. Does anyone know if they all burned out, or whether some competed in college or beyond? -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

t-and-f: New genetics report on ethnic differences

2001-07-14 Thread Jon Entine
...<< ...and so on (from Reuters)... -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

2001-08-09 Thread Jon Entine
Running Record By Jon Entine When the gun goes off for the men¹s 1500 metre final at Sunday¹s World Championships in Edmonton, it might just as well signal the end of an era. The age of great British middle distance runners is gone forever. Once the world¹s dominant power, with a bloodline of Sebastian

Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

2001-08-09 Thread Jon Entine
utrage. If anyone wants >> to print this unpublished article, or reproduce it on a >> website, please send me a note. I will be most obliging. >> >> ** >> >> 9 August 2001 >> >> The End of the British Empire: Why a Brit (Black or White) >>

Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

2001-08-09 Thread Jon Entine
> And jon-boy, for every 10 black kids that sprint, probably 1 white kid > sprints... because of a$$'s like yourself who discourage them. > > My question is this though... why does it have to be an issue with race with > you? Do you have anything else to offer to this sport o

Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

2001-08-09 Thread Jon Entine
h, with the Africans, Americans, and other Europeans mixing it up a > bit. > > M > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

Re: t-and-f: The End of the British Rule in Running

2001-08-13 Thread Jon Entine
You have consistently failed to acknowledge why athletes from the US, UK and > and Northern European stock are running more slowly than they did in the > past. If they were running at the level of Cram, Coe, etc., perhaps they > would be more competitive. > > Rich Harrington > > -

t-and-f: Tom Derderian on Taboo's and noses

2000-10-30 Thread Jon Entine
9/23/race/index.html -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 :: [fax] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

t-and-f: Genes and sports again

2000-11-28 Thread Jon Entine
hletes of West African ancestry hold the top 219 and 494 of the top 500 times. -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 :: [fax] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

t-and-f: NATIONAL POST ONLINE | Search Results | Story

2000-11-28 Thread Jon Entine
This is the article. It's actually another documentary: http://www.nationalpost.com/search/story.html?f=/stories/20001127/384654.html -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 :: [fax] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

Re: t-and-f: Genes and sports again

2000-11-30 Thread Jon Entine
call these performances of notoriously poor sprinters? > I'm aware of the fact that east africans do not win medal after medal in > the sprints but surely their performances are worthy of more than your > description. > > Cheers, > > Martyn > > > > > >

t-and-f: German women

2000-12-16 Thread Jon Entine
in perspective. Jon Entine http://www.jonentine.com Sport as Religion The truth of the unloved and now unmourned German Democratic Republic can be found in the rubble of the rebuilding effort in East Berlin, Jena, and other formerly dingy cities where Paleozoic construction sites swarm with

t-and-f: Borzov and misunderstanding population genetics

2000-12-20 Thread Jon Entine
asse Viren, Rod > Milburn and Viktor Saneyev were also doo-doo because they don't rate highly > on today's all-time lists. > > gh -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

Re: t-and-f: Borzov and misunderstanding population genetics

2000-12-20 Thread Jon Entine
wever that often the > references to track and field as mentioned with this argument that I have > seen do fall short on accuracy and tend to be somewhat scewed to support the > point .. If we are going to have a genetic discussion on track and field on > this list at least lets be accurate about it .. > > Conway Hill > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

Re: t-and-f: Borzov and misunderstanding population genetics

2000-12-20 Thread Jon Entine
a level > performances at Munich on its relatively soft track equate quite well in > conversion to today's times .. And even on face value he would have won this > years Olympic 200 with his hands still raised in the air !!! And as for your > statement about one pretty good sovi

Re: t-and-f: Borzov and misunderstanding population genetics

2000-12-20 Thread Jon Entine
estry represent about 2-3 percent of the competing population, virtually all from Western countries since West African women are by and large not permitted to participate in elite sports. > > Conway Hill > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

t-and-f: Re: t-and-f-digest V1 #3361

2000-12-20 Thread Jon Entine
M, "t-and-f-digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:57:35 -0600 > From: "Wayne T. Armbrust" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: t-and-f: Borzov and misunderstanding population genetics > > Jon Entine wrote: > >> &g

t-and-f: Why Kalenjins Win the Boston Marathon

2001-04-12 Thread Jon Entine
of milk mixed with cow¹s blood. One of the largest of the native groups came to be known as the Chemwal, the Kalenjin word meaning ³raid cattle,² or those who steal. It is the forerunner of the Nandi, who have been a distinct tribe for almost three centuries. -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock R

t-and-f: Clarifying the post on Boston Marathon

2001-04-12 Thread Jon Entine
e Kikuyu, which includes the Kamba, I believe. Cosmas Ndeti is a Kamba tribesman. Lameck Aguta belongs to the Kisii tribe. The stats I posted on probabilities extend to these tribes as well. -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

Re: t-and-f: Why Kalenjins Win the Boston Marathon

2001-04-12 Thread Jon Entine
, etc. are much more > popular. > > Why are we "afraid to talk" about THAT? Just an idea for your next book. > > Oleg. > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jon Entine > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2

Re: t-and-f: Why Kalenjins Win the Boston Marathon

2001-04-12 Thread Jon Entine
__________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

t-and-f: Sticking to what I know

2001-04-12 Thread Jon Entine
ists and without much support from the empirical evidence. Sorry Randall.. On 4/12/01 4:10 PM, "Randall Northam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 12/4/01 6:15 PM, Jon Entine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> (which they are not very competitive at >> compared to a

t-and-f: Re: t-and-f-digest V1 #3543

2001-04-12 Thread Jon Entine
rk is renowned in this area, focus on such a late teenage or early twenties groups. On 4/12/01 7:23 PM, "t-and-f-digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:19:24 -0700 > From: Ed & Dana Parrot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: t-and-f: lung ca

Re: t-and-f: Why Kalenjins Win the Boston Marathon

2001-04-12 Thread Jon Entine
rk is renowned in this area, focus on such a late teenage or early twenties groups. On 4/12/01 7:23 PM, "t-and-f-digest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:19:24 -0700 > From: Ed & Dana Parrot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: t-and-f: lung ca

Re: t-and-f: Why Kalenjins Win the Boston Marathon

2001-04-13 Thread Jon Entine
t; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 13/4/01 1:17 AM, Jon Entine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> BOTH THE Nigerians and Cameroonians won the world cup. > As I said - stick to what you know. > Both the Nigerians and Cameroons reached the world cup finals, No African >

Re: t-and-f: Why Kalenjins Win the Boston Marathon

2001-04-13 Thread Jon Entine
;ll revise the book and eat humble pie. That's what discourse is all about, not questioning that WHICH YOU HAVE NOT READ. On 4/13/01 8:48 AM, "Randall Northam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 13/4/01 3:26 PM, Jon Entine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Randall--i

Re: t-and-f: Why Kalenjins Win the Boston Marathon

2001-04-13 Thread Jon Entine
;ll revise the book and eat humble pie. That's what discourse is all about, not questioning that WHICH YOU HAVE NOT READ. On 4/13/01 8:48 AM, "Randall Northam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 13/4/01 3:26 PM, Jon Entine at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Randall--i

t-and-f: About the genetics of lung capacity

2001-04-13 Thread Jon Entine
children sit around, watch TV and get fat. That is why we have the highest child obesity rate in the worldwe are lazy as a whole. That was not true 50 years ago. Alan -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

t-and-f: Re: t-and-f-digest V1 #3545

2001-04-13 Thread Jon Entine
ou'd think they >> could have won something. >> >> Bruce Meyer >> KUKIMBIA >> Chicago > That's because they are all trying to become football players but they don't > realise they have the wrong body shape! > Randall Northam -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

t-and-f: Re: London Marathon...Kenyan Marathon Dominance?

2001-04-23 Thread Jon Entine
n" It's based on the article below: Cheers, -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com *** Why a Brit, Aussie or an American (Black or White) May Never Win Another Major Marathon By Jon Entine Wha

t-and-f: Re: London Marathon...Kenyan Marathon Dominance?

2001-04-23 Thread Jon Entine
marathoners of the 80s would most likely run > 2:08 or better today simply because that is what it would take to win, so > that is how they would train. > > Alan > > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

Re: t-and-f: Re: London Marathon...Kenyan Marathon Dominance?

2001-04-23 Thread Jon Entine
possibilities > would be. > > The countries of the British Isles can do the same. > > The problem is probably less a genetic issue than an interest as a competitive > event issue at least in the US and the Celtic states. > > Steve S. > > -- Jon Entine RuffRun

Re: t-and-f: ...Kenyan Marathon Dominance, etc.

2001-04-24 Thread Jon Entine
e difference in the > amount/type of work done, and the mindsets involved, is probably greater > than the differences in physiology. Think a little more outside of the box. > > Rich > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of

t-and-f: Tom Derderian's comments

2001-04-25 Thread Jon Entine
rican. > >Those are the numbers. That difference IS cultural. The interesting >question is why. -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

Re: t-and-f: Tom Derderian's comments

2001-04-25 Thread Jon Entine
> 6. Terry Baker Wash. DC 32:58 > 7. Randy Thomas GBTC 33:03 > 8. Kyle Heffner Boulder, CO 33:07 > 9. Benji Durden Georgia 33:09 > 10. Stan Vernon Oklahoma 33:19 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jon Entine >

Re: t-and-f: ...Kenyan Marathon Dominance, etc.

2001-04-25 Thread Jon Entine
Except he's wrong. On 4/25/01 8:02 AM, "Kurt Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jon Entine said: > >> Salazar and Kennedy frankly DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. They >> are just engaging in a little self-loathing for not being able to keep up &

t-and-f: Re: t-and-f-digest V1 #3585

2001-04-25 Thread Jon Entine
ciate the marvelous performances I see and hear about each season > even more by buying into your thesis. As long as in the end we are still > talking about human beings, homo sapiens, doing all this great running why > should I care about the genetics! I have never understood the passion

Re: t-and-f: ...Kenyan Marathon Dominance, etc.

2001-04-25 Thread Jon Entine
st marathoners, there are many North Americans and Europeans who would be on top of their world. They're not. On 4/25/01 4:43 PM, "Kurt Bray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Talking about Bob Kennedy, Jon Entine wrote: > >> Except he's wrong. > > >

Re: t-and-f: Tom Derderian's comments

2001-04-26 Thread Jon Entine
t;> 2. Herb Lindsay Michigan 32:27 >>> 3. Bill Rodgers GBTC 32:29 >>> 4. Jon Sinclair Colorado 32:36 >>> 5. Frank Shorter Colorado 32:42 >>> 6. Rick Rojas Colorado 32:44 >>> 7. John Flora Northeastern TC 32:45 >>> 8. Mike Roche New Jersey

t-and-f: biodversity, "race" and discrimination

2000-07-30 Thread Jon Entine
quot;race"). It can feed the worst kind of discrimination and racism, particularly against those of African ancestry. -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 :: [fax] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com Author of TABOO: Why Black Athletes Dominate Sports

t-and-f: biodversity, "race" and discrimination

2000-07-31 Thread Jon Entine
gh I don't like the word because of the historical associations -- will lead to LESS discrimination. That applies to the military, as well as to understanding what continues to unfold in the world track scene. Jon Entine Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 15:35:34 -0700 From: "R.T." <[EMAIL

t-and-f: coaching and performance

2000-08-08 Thread Jon Entine
Steve-- The flaw in Steve's belief coaches are the primary reason why one runner excels over another is possible but certainly conjectural. There are other factors, most prominently genetics, that might reduce the coaching factor to insignificance. Jon Entine Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 13:

t-and-f: Why Kenyans are lousy at their national sport, soccer...

2000-08-29 Thread Jon Entine
0 all time 100 meter times are held by athletes of West African ancestry, yet there are no top distance runners of primarily West African ancestry. These are all intriguing questions that deepen our understanding of what we will see unfold in Sydney! Jon Entine (818) 991-9803 :: [fax] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

RE: t-and-f: flo-jo

2000-09-04 Thread Jon Entine
uot; but she never raced again. Her career 100 m 200m 1982 11.12[8] 22.39[10] 1983 11.06[6] 22.23[5] 1984 10.99[3] 22.04[5] 1985 11.00[6] 22.46[7] 1986 unranked unranked 1987 10.96[6] 21.96[2] 1988 10.49[1] 21.34[1] Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura

t-and-f: minimum qualifying times?

2000-09-07 Thread Jon Entine
Does anyone know the minimum qualifying times for the 100 meters and 200 meters? Also, does anyone know where on the Net one could find a list of qualifiers for the Olympics for various track events? -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 :: [fax] 991

Re: t-and-f: we have a winner!

2002-01-11 Thread Jon Entine
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t-and-f: Re: T&F athletes in winter Olympics?

2002-02-23 Thread Jon Entine
The following article in The Black World Today (and another in Africana.com) addresses an aspect of T&F athletes in the winter Olympics... -- Jon Entine http://www.tbwt.com/views/specialrpt/specialrpt_0249.asp Flowers Is No Fluke: Black Success In Bobsledding Part Of A Growing Wi

Re: t-and-f: Re: T&F athletes in winter Olympics?

2002-02-23 Thread Jon Entine
ow few there are in the sports, should dominate the > above events. Genetics is important, but not as much as you think it is. > > > Alan > http://www.geocities.com/runningart2004 > > > _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > -- Jon Entine RuffRun 6178 Grey Rock Rd. Agoura Hills, CA 91301 (818) 991-9803 [FAX] 991-9804 http://www.jonentine.com

t-and-f: Essay by medical geneticist with Academy of Arts and Sciences on'human differences' -- and why different 'races' do better in differentsports

2002-03-09 Thread Jon Entine
forming a chromosome. The DNA in a human chromosome, if stretched out, would be an inch or more in length. How this is compacted into a microscopic blob some 1/1000 inch long without getting hopelessly tangled is an engineering marvel that is still a puzzle. ...8 more pages... -- Jon Entine RuffR

t-and-f: Re: Dropped Men's Programs-Updated List

2003-01-09 Thread Jon Entine
15,553 1997-8625 19,355 649 15,979 1998-9637 20,405 671 18,216 1999-2000 635 20,123 662 17,788 2000-1638 20,271 673 18,339 --

t-and-f: Dropped Men's Programs-Updated List

2003-01-09 Thread Jon Entine
You can add Georgia Southern University to that list. It dropped men's cross country in 1999 (and never had track on the men's side, I've been told). -- Jon Entine 8650 Pipewell Lane Cincinnati, Ohio 45243 (513) 985-0372 [FAX] 985-0373 http://www.jonentine.com > Date: Tue, 7

t-and-f: FW: Title IX: school's dropping men's track...

2003-01-09 Thread Jon Entine
This was posted on a sports sociology list vis a vis the debate over Title IX and the cutting of men's programs. Comments welcomed... -- Jon Entine -- Forwarded Message From: Welch Suggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Organization: The Chronicle of Higher Education Reply-To: [EMAIL PROT