Re: [Tagging] WG: how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist?

2015-10-25 Thread GerdP
Hi Hans, Yes, I think I need help, not only from you: I've commented many of the changesets which introduced new highway=* tags on ways which are rarely used. I learned that many of them were typos, often highway=* should be historic=* or railway=* or waterway=*. I think I can manage to cleanup

Re: [Tagging] WG: how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist?

2015-10-25 Thread Hans De Kryger
Hey Gerd, Thanks for reaching out to me, i have to say I'm a little confused. The ways you mentioned were a mistake and were suppose to be tagged (historic,railway etc) i get. But like the example shown here (1) there seems to be no plausible reason for it? It seems to me that any examples which

[Tagging] tunnel=culvert

2015-10-25 Thread GerdP
Hi all, up to now I've used tunnel=culvert http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tunnel=culvert like this: 1) JOSM warns that a waterway and highway are crossing 2) I split the waterway into 3 parts and add tunnel=yes, layer=-1 to the short one in the middle (or split the road and add

Re: [Tagging] WG: how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist?

2015-10-25 Thread Hans De Kryger
​The example above i mentioned (​ http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/5987185/history) i'm guessing i shouldn't contact anyone since it was a tiger upload from 2007? *Regards,* *Hans* *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 * On Sun, Oct

Re: [Tagging] WG: how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist?

2015-10-25 Thread GerdP
Hi Hans, I think that is part of the problem, you always have to decide if the way is of any use for others, else we could just use a mass edit. Each case needs review and thinking, that's why I am asking for help ;-) As long as you contact the original mapper I see no problem. Gerd Hans De

Re: [Tagging] WG: how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist?

2015-10-25 Thread Hans De Kryger
Thanks for getting back to me, if you have a list of them shoot it my way. I'll start working on them. *Regards,* *Hans* *http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TheDutchMan13 * On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 1:55 AM, GerdP

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

2015-10-25 Thread Ineiev
Hello, On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 11:44:17PM -0700, GerdP wrote: > Now I noticed that the wiki also "allows" to use tunnel=culvert > on a node, On the other hand, the wiki "disallows" to use tunnel=* on a node. > but this is rarely used > (taginfo shows 945 tags on nodes and > 305.000 on ways) > I

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

2015-10-25 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 11:44:17PM -0700, GerdP wrote: > Hi all, > > up to now I've used tunnel=culvert > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tunnel=culvert > like this: > 1) JOSM warns that a waterway and highway are crossing > 2) I split the waterway into 3 parts and add > tunnel=yes,

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

2015-10-25 Thread johnw
> On Oct 25, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Ineiev wrote: > >> In my eyes it is the same case as with a >> railway=level_crossing. We map it as a node (and only as a node). >> Did I miss something? > > In this case, the highway and the railway share the same level. +1 the rail and road

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

2015-10-25 Thread Georg Feddern
Hello, Am 25.10.2015 um 11:44 schrieb Gerd Petermann: I do not fully agree here. In Germany, I often see a traffic sign "Vorsicht Düker" (~ "Attention! Culvert") next to these culverts. I am not sure why I should pay attention, but it seems that some people think that the traffic on the

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

2015-10-25 Thread Gerd Petermann
Hi Colin, good point, I agree that they don't share the node. So I guess the wiki should be changed ? Gerd Von: Colin Smale Gesendet: Sonntag, 25. Oktober 2015 10:49 An: tagging@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

2015-10-25 Thread Gerd Petermann
I don't think that this is a strong point. Thinking about my own edits I'd say that the length could be +/- 4m because typically I just try to place the nodes somewhere neer the road, if I find an existing node that looks good enough I use that. On the other hand, I think we make assumptions

Re: [Tagging] WG: how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist?

2015-10-25 Thread Andre Engels
I think the one to contact there is SimMoonXP - in the tiger upload these were highway=residential, he is the one who changed them to highway=unbuilt. André Engels On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Hans De Kryger wrote: > The example above i mentioned >

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

2015-10-25 Thread Richard
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 07:29:02PM +0900, johnw wrote: > > > On Oct 25, 2015, at 6:27 PM, Ineiev wrote: > > > >> In my eyes it is the same case as with a > >> railway=level_crossing. We map it as a node (and only as a node). > >> Did I miss something? > > > > In this case, the

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

2015-10-25 Thread Dave Swarthout
I must comment here as I believe those two tags describe a situation quite common in Alaska. Many many smaller waterways cross under a highway in a special large diameter pipe called a culvert. The water flows through the culvert, both are below the roadbed and consequently they do not share or

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

2015-10-25 Thread John Willis
Javbw > On Oct 25, 2015, at 9:33 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > two tags describe a situation quite common in Alaska. Quite common here too in Japan. The runoff is captured and fed into a feed/drain system to fill rice fields with water, as well as used as a mostly

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

2015-10-25 Thread Gerd Petermann
Hi, thanks for the feedback. I think tunnel=culvert is special, my understanding is that it implies that the water goes through some kind of pipe. So tunnel=culvert on a node simply implies that the waterway is below the road, no layer tag is needed. Gerd

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

2015-10-25 Thread Colin Smale
Does the pipe have to be below the road? There could be another tunnel below the culvert as well. In any case the pipe and the road are (in real life, and by design) not connected and if they share a node it will doubtless lead to all kinds of QA complaints. --colin On 2015-10-25 10:38,

Re: [Tagging] WG: how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist?

2015-10-25 Thread GerdP
The following overpass turbo query shows > 200 candidates http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/cf3 Gerd Hans De Kryger wrote > Thanks for getting back to me, if you have a list of them shoot it my way. > I'll start working on them. > > *Regards,* > > *Hans* > >

Re: [Tagging] WG: how to tag a "highway" that doesn't exist?

2015-10-25 Thread GerdP
I've never commented the large tiger imports, but sometimes asked for a review by one of the later editors, when they appeared to be locals. Gerd Hans De Kryger wrote > ​The example above i mentioned (​ > http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/5987185/history) i'm guessing i shouldn't > contact

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

2015-10-25 Thread Gerd Petermann
I do not fully agree here. In Germany, I often see a traffic sign "Vorsicht Düker" (~ "Attention! Culvert") next to these culverts. I am not sure why I should pay attention, but it seems that some people think that the traffic on the road should notify it. Maybe because it also often means

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

2015-10-25 Thread ajt1...@gmail.com
On 25/10/2015 10:55, Richard wrote: On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 07:29:02PM +0900, johnw wrote: the rail and road share an intersection. it is a level crossing. The whole point of a level crossing is to say “Hey!” the road and train meet here! that’s why they share the node. Which is exactly

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

2015-10-25 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 10:20:10AM +, Gerd Petermann wrote: > I don't think that this is a strong point. > Thinking about my own edits I'd say that the > length could be +/- 4m because typically I just try to place > the nodes somewhere neer the road, if I find an existing > node that looks

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a "Olive Oil Factory"?

2015-10-25 Thread Warin
On 26/10/2015 4:19 AM, david wrote: Hello, My name is David, and I'm a novel user. I find OpenStreetMap really interesting. My user in OpenStreetMap is dlv3. Welcome! I'm sourveying my little village. I'm trying to tag a "Olive Oil Factory"(I'm not a english speaker, ¿is

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a "Olive Oil Factory"?

2015-10-25 Thread John Willis
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 2:19 AM, david wrote: > > The factory > takes harvested olives, after a few process, olive oil is produced). The olive mill suggested was 5 years old, so adding that man_made tag would be on top of a few other tags. The big thing is if it is

[Tagging] How to tag a "Olive Oil Factory"?

2015-10-25 Thread david
Hello, My name is David, and I'm a novel user. I find OpenStreetMap really interesting. My user in OpenStreetMap is dlv3. I'm sourveying my little village. I'm trying to tag a "Olive Oil Factory"(I'm not a english speaker, ¿is this name corret? The factory takes harvested

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

2015-10-25 Thread Gerd Petermann
Hi, I want to thank all of you for the input. I think it is common sense (now) that tunnel=culvert should be used on ways only, so I'd be happy to see the wiki pages changed so that they don't suggest to use the tag on a node. Who can do that? Gerd Von:

Re: [Tagging] tunnel=culvert

2015-10-25 Thread Ian Sanders
Here are some examples of this, just to clarify. I don't see how these could possibly be mapped as nodes, so I really don't understand what the debate was in the first place: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/26.53270/-81.75712 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/26.53696/-81.77442

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a "Olive Oil Factory"?

2015-10-25 Thread Éric Gillet
Hi and welcome on OSM ! There is a proposed feature about olive oil mills on the wiki. Éric ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org