Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 2:34 PM, marc marc wrote: > you do so much slalom to avoid the categories access=private and fee=yes > that I persist in believing that it would be easy to add tags to these 2 > functions that already work to explain the conditions in which

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

you do so much slalom to avoid the categories access=private and fee=yes that I persist in believing that it would be easy to add tags to these 2 functions that already work to explain the conditions in which access is possible. this would allow to tag in the same way a road leading to a lake

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

Thanks to everyone for continued patience with trying to refine the definition. I think we've most likely reached a point where "with all the horse puckey about, there must be a pony in there somewhere!" Let me try to take another run at the hill. WHERE DOES ACCESS=PERMIT APPLY?

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

Folks, a permit is nothing more than a written form of permission. The OED defines permit as "an official document giving permission to do something". It doesn't imply anything other than that. In my original post, I said I needed a way to tag a fishing pond located within a military zone so that

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

2017-09-21 14:40 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale : > - access to a Low Emission Zone >> > > > IMHO this has nothing to do with "permit", you don't need a permit, you > (or better: your vehicle) must satisfy certain conditions. Those are more > similar to maxweight or maxheight IMHO

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

On 2017-09-21 14:27, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2017-09-21 12:10 GMT+02:00 joost schouppe : > >> I mentioned two different situations where access=permit would also be the >> most logical tag: >> >> - access to a Low Emission Zone > > IMHO this has nothing to do

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

On 2017-09-21 11:03, Marc Gemis wrote: > Is there a risk that people will start adding access=permit to > everything in a country for which you need to have a visa to enter the > country ? Not everyone needs a visa of course, so it cannot be a simple attribute of a country. > Or even worse, to

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

2017-09-21 12:10 GMT+02:00 joost schouppe : > I mentioned two different situations where access=permit would also be the > most logical tag: > > - access to a Low Emission Zone > IMHO this has nothing to do with "permit", you don't need a permit, you (or better: your

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

2017-09-21 11:05 GMT+02:00 Dave Swarthout : > >it depends what "permit" actually means: > > I don't see that as having any bearing on the present proposal. The tag > means only that a permit is required to access the object. > > Whether such an instrument is difficult to

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

I mentioned two different situations where access=permit would also be the most logical tag: - access to a Low Emission Zone - access to certain roads in cities (e.g. this road is accesible to certain motor_vehicle if they ask for a permit: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/25728312) It would be

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

>Is there a risk that people will start adding access=permit to >everything in a country for which you need to have a visa to enter the >country ? >Or even worse, to all streets with motor_vehicle=permit because you >need a driver license and a number plate for your car ? >This the proposal

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

>it depends what "permit" actually means: I don't see that as having any bearing on the present proposal. The tag means only that a permit is required to access the object. Whether such an instrument is difficult to get, must be paid for, must be adjudicated before some governing body, or

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

Is there a risk that people will start adding access=permit to everything in a country for which you need to have a visa to enter the country ? Or even worse, to all streets with motor_vehicle=permit because you need a driver license and a number plate for your car ? This the proposal excluding

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

@SwiftFast, >So far I just used "access=customers" and explained the permit required >in "description". Based on what the Wiki says, I don't think your usage is quite correct: This tag applies to objects which may be used or accessed only by *customers* of a specific store, bank, restaurant,

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

2017-09-18 17:29 GMT+02:00 Kevin Kenny : > I am told that access=permit is > the same thing as access=private (which, as far as I can determine, is > also no different from access=no). I accept that. > it depends what "permit" actually means: 1) can it be obtained

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

@warin wrote, >NO. The formal process is" ... ... >*OR* >You can simply use the tag. There are some 235 uses from taginfo now, so it has been used. >As there are few of these tags around then it should be documented - create a new wiki page. >235 is not large but it does establish a use.

[Tagging] Access by permit

So far I just used "access=customers" and explained the permit required in "description". ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Access by permit

Hi I agree with the permit system as it is discused here. I found it useful for National Parks, specially for World Heritage Biosphere Reservations, where a small amount of people has to book in advance. If it keeps getting a strong opposition, you could consider mapping as access=fee and adding