Re: [Tagging] Canoe route

I'd like to suggest not creating a very specific tag like route=canoe, instead use something more general that would apply to more water crafts like kayaks, small boats, canoes, and rafts. route=marine_trail would be more fitting. Related tag could include motorized=(yes/no). Kayaking around my

Re: [Tagging] tagging religion-based access

Another alternative, without having to introduce a new value, would be access=designated. On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 11:44 AM Stephen Doerr wrote: > How about: > > amenity=place_of_worship > religion=muslim > access=adherents > > ? > > > On 29 June 2018, at 19:36, Mateusz Konieczny > wrote: > > >

Re: [Tagging] nautical channels

Have you checked out OpenSeaMap.org and their related wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenSeaMap? It might get you started. Clifford On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 11:19 AM Volker Schmidt wrote: > > How to map a nautical channel [1] ? > > > [1]

Re: [Tagging] Canoe route

Dave, When you add a ferry route, route=ferry to a way it renders. You might want to tag the water route as route=canoe then create a relation that covers the entire route including the water portion and the portaging sections in the overall route? That the strategy used to map highway routes

Re: [Tagging] iD presets

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:52 PM Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Tuesday 19 June 2018, Bryan Housel wrote: > <> > > > It’s fine for people to keep tagging these but I probably wouldn't > > add a preset for this in iD. > > While i think i kind of understand your motivation here, that you think >

Re: [Tagging] A new Tag for "helicopter services"?

office=air_charter should fit. The ones around here offer both fixed wing and helicopter services. With office=air_charter you could also add air_charter=helicopter Clifford On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 6:06 AM gorgonz wrote: > I'm looking for a tag, that describes an office, that offers

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Telecom local netwoks

On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 5:57 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Francois > > I'm a little bit confused over some of your definitions? > > You say man_made=telephone_exchange is to be replaced with > telecom=central_office, but then also say that a telecom=central_office "is > a small dedicated

Re: [Tagging] Flower fields as tourism attraction

In John Wills original post he talked about tulip farms. These are tourist attractions around me, but really it's about farming. Around me they plant tulips to harvest the bulbs with a side business of tourism. Farming is different than gardens. Both are valid. Clifford -- @osm_seattle

Re: [Tagging] no_u_turn restrictions for every entry/exit into a roundabout when the way is split because of physical separation?

I don't see any changeset comments in either of the two you referenced. I would suggest adding a changeset comment to get their attention. You can also look on their github page to see what they are working on. https://github.com/Microsoft/Open-Maps/issues Best, Clifford On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at

Re: [Tagging] Parking Fees

I just parked in the Triangle Parking for the UW Medical Center in Seattle, WA. The first 30 minutes are free. They also have a flat rate after 5pm of $5.00 although it's not listed on their website. https://www.uwmedicine.org/uw-medical-center/campus/directions There are a number of parking

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=cannabis

Russ - Looks good. We have Cannabis shops opening left and right in Washington State. I've only mapped the one I visit but need to get out and "map" the rest. Tough job. Clifford On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 3:27 PM, wrote: > Greetings tagging list, > > > > I got a little

Re: [Tagging] Park vs national park

I suspect its just a misunderstanding of how to tag national parks. I would leave a changeset note pointing them to the wiki on how to tag national parks. On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 4:40 PM, Daniel Koć wrote: > It looks like some people tag national parks and similar natural >

Re: [Tagging] Setting a preferred routing

The old hwy looks like it is being torn apart in a few area looking at the Digital Globe standard imagery. Track may be more appropriate. On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Hans De Kryger wrote: > DigitalGlobe Standard Imagery has the new road. Also we have a more up to

Re: [Tagging] Setting a preferred routing

On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Hi, > I came across an interesting routing problem the other day. A section of > the Richardson Highway in Alaska was relocated in 2015 by the Alaska DOT in > anticipation of erosion or flooding by the nearby Delta

Re: [Tagging] RFC: Defaults are paramount, abandoning Proposed_features/ is a HUGE mistake

I have been following this discussion on default maxspeed tagging. Searching the wiki hasn't been helpful. There is an inactive proposal [1], a wiki page on country default speeds [1] but nothing definitive on how to map. The default scheme seems to be a reasonable approach for jurisdictions that

Re: [Tagging] Simplify building:part areas

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Javier Sánchez Portero < javiers...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am thinking in ways to reduce the complexity that introduces the mapping > of parts of buildings. For example: > > * If one part is inscribed within a larger one, can I use simple ways > overlapped and

Re: [Tagging] Names containing abbreviations that are the official name

Saint Paul - but that certainly is an exception. I was using a garmin gps device to navigate about 4 years ago. As I entered Mount Vernon, WA the voice called it Mountain Vernon. Albert Pundt suggestion to use offical_name or name_official would help. But keeping with OSM ground truth, we could

Re: [Tagging] Unofficial name change of "Lake Calhoun" in Minneapolis, Minnesota

On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 7:04 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > However, I don't think you should use the name_1 tag. There has been > endless discussion on this list about the uses of tags having numerical > suffixes either with underscores or colons, and I believe that

Re: [Tagging] Unofficial name change of "Lake Calhoun" in Minneapolis, Minnesota

On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 4:50 PM, Tom Hardy wrote: > Huh. That one flew right by me. Noted. Now I have to learn to pronounce > it. Me too. Next time I'm in Minneapolis I don't want to see like a tourist and pronounce it incorrectly. FYI - We "renamed" our county because

Re: [Tagging] Unofficial name change of "Lake Calhoun" in Minneapolis, Minnesota

On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Tom Hardy wrote: > Lake Calhoun is the subject > of > local discussion due to racist associations of the word "Calhoun". I know > a > name change has been promoted, but I have no further details. >

Re: [Tagging] toilets:wheelchair or wheelchair_toilet (Both iD presets)

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 6:01 AM, Dave F wrote: > As Wheelmap only displays a subset of all establishments people adding > data are using iD. Would it big a big problem if 'toilets:wheelchair' & > wheelchair:description were added to the defaults. I agree - adding

Re: [Tagging] toilets:wheelchair or wheelchair_toilet (Both iD presets)

It looks like iD is pulling in data from taginfo when manually adding a tag. When searching for wheelchair, iD only offers a point object, which is correct. We don't tag wheelchairs, we tag objects that have wheelchair attributes. Clifford On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Dave F

Re: [Tagging] Evacuation Routes

On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 10:07 PM, Eric Christensen wrote: > The current tagging system is likely not being rendered by any > software out there and seems to be a one-off. To me this *should* be > a type of route which would show direction and, perhaps, the type of >

Re: [Tagging] Mapping Attenuation Ponds / Sustainable Drainage schemes

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Steve Brook wrote: > Many new UK housing estates are required to be built with Attenuation > Ponds / Sustainable Drainage schemes as part of their development. These > are to control rain water runoff during storms and consist of a pond >

Re: [Tagging] Why is this building not rendered?

I agree with Warin's recommended tagging, but W. Harry Davis Academy [1] renders and it's tagged the same way. I'd open a ticket or ask on IRC. [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/44.98127/-93.29903 On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 10:40 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Way: Peter Hobart

Re: [Tagging] Forestry/logging

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 8:50 PM, Vao Matua wrote: > This is an interesting discussion. As a tree farmer and professional > forester I am offended by the suggestion that a harvested area is different > landuse from areas that are in other stages of forest growth. > I

Re: [Tagging] Forestry/logging

On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 3:06 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I would also like to know when a harvest is planed, so I can avoid the > area when that is taking place (traffic, noise and dust). > > Where an area has been clear felled, replanted and is now thick.. they > usually do a

Re: [Tagging] Tagging cannabis growing facilities

Dave, I'd be concerned about tagging cannabis grow operation after the new attorney general's comments. I live in Washington state. Cannabis shops are well known, but not the grow operation. I assume because they are regulated by the state that the Feds could find them. But I'd rather not make it

Re: [Tagging] Roads with no speed limits

Hans, Is there a state law that applies? Clifford On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Hans De Kryger wrote: > Here in Phoenix Arizona more than half the freeway off ramps have no > listed speed limit. Does (maxspeed=none) work? I've worked hard here in the > valley

Re: [Tagging] Mapping pergolas/arbors

It makes sense to include type=pergola with the tags to help find them. Sent from my Android phone. On May 17, 2016 10:41 AM, "Martin Koppenhoefer" <dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > Il giorno 17 mag 2016, alle ore 16:40, Clifford Sn

Re: [Tagging] Tagging natural or historic regions

Fuzzy boundaries do have their place. Currently we use sharp boundaries for landuse, but often the boundary is really fuzzy. A wooded area would be a good example of a where a fuzzy boundary might be employed. But the fuzziness of a wooded area may only be a few meters. The fuzziness of

Re: [Tagging] Tagging natural or historic regions

On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > well, this didn't prevent 12% of mappers to add neighborhoods as areas > anyway: http://taginfo.osm.org/tags/place=neighbourhood > The discussion was around neighborhoods that did not have a clear boundary,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging natural or historic regions

On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I agree that a rough polygon seems better than a node because it allows to > estimate the size (a new relation datatype would even be better, like a > collection of (existing/already mapped) things inside

Re: [Tagging] building=yes for multiple building

I used to work in the telecom field. We often did lateral additions to the building. Many times different entrances would have different addresses. Because the buildings were different heights it is difficult to determine where one building ended and another started. For example the CenturyLink

Re: [Tagging] Tagging problem for a river running in a culvert below a track / wiki votes enforcement

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:14 AM, David Marchal wrote: > Indeed; here comes the picture: http://1drv.ms/1ZQJCxT Hendrikklaas told > me by a private message "Simple tagging is tunnel=culvert-bridge and add > layer=-1 to avoid crossing conflicts. Or leave it just >

Re: [Tagging] Tagging problem for a river running in a culvert below a track / wiki votes enforcement

On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > layer=-1 to me says this is below natural ground level. And here that is > not the case - the road is above natural ground level and that should be > tagged layer=1 .. to be absolutely technically correct. > > But many use

Re: [Tagging] Art galleries/museums

On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 2:44 PM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > The wiki defines the tag tourism=gallery as 'an area or typically a > building that displays a variety of visual art exhibitions' [1]. This > is an officially approved tag [2]. In addition, the wiki page on >

Re: [Tagging] landuse=farmland and highway=track

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Sometimes as I labor over doing these areas correctly I wonder if someday > it will all be made obsolete. I don't know when or if it will happen but I > have to think that some point in the future OSM will employ

Re: [Tagging] Elevation and height on vertical features

That could be someone converting from feet to meters. On Jan 8, 2016 10:32 AM, "Tom Pfeifer" wrote: > Colin Smale wrote on 2016/01/08 17:47: > >> How did all the elevation data get into OSM in the first place? >> > > GPS is notoriously bad at determining

Re: [Tagging] Proposed Feature Adoption

Can you save us all a lot of time and provide the link to the proposal? Thanks, clifford On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Dominic Coletti wrote: > Hi all, > > I have proposed a new tag for tagging adoption agencies: > office=adoption_agency. It is currently in "Draft"

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Philip Barnes wrote: > They are not matching reality, can cause long detours and poor routing > unless the mapper provides a lot of connections to the road. Remember > normal pedestrians can cross wherever they want. > That is true, but

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Tobias Knerr wrote: > Sure, but the sidewalk attribute is essential for other, much more basic > use cases that separate ways fail to serve. > Can you elaborate on why separate ways fail to serve? > > > I don't think relations are the

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

Thanks everyone for the input. As much as I like the concept of using the sidewalk attribute to the road, it doesn't seem like it is all that useful for adding kerb slope. It wasn't pointed out, but one additional problem with using the sidewalk attribute is that a new mapper will likely not look

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:24 AM, John Willis wrote: > Jaywalking will get you a bored policeman giving you a ticket in Tokyo. > > They pride themselves in people who follow the rules and wait for > crosswalks and such. > Seattle is one of the few cities in the US that actively

[Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

I'm working with a local non-profit to tag sidewalks for wheelchair [1] accessibility. Tagging sidewalks is usually done by either drawing in a new way and often parallel to roads or tagging the highway with sidewalk=left/right/both/none. Either of these produce acceptable results for normal

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Bryan Housel wrote: > I don’t really buy the “mapping sidewalks as part of the road makes > routing easier" argument, but I don’t work on routing software so maybe > there really is something complicated about routing that I am unaware of.

Re: [Tagging] Xxzme edit of wiki proposed features page voting

What page exactly? On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > With no discussion on the relevant talk page .. > > This page has been labelled for deletion. > > As I use this page to check for any new proposals up for voting it forms > an essential part of my voting

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk=none vs sidewalk=no

On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Andrew MacKinnon andrew...@gmail.com wrote: Which is better, sidewalk=none or sidewalk=no? It seems like none is more popular but no probably makes more sense because it is similar to the tagging schemes used for other things like foot=no and bicycle=no.

Re: [Tagging] Concrete kerbs in highway

: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 2:42 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-06-23 1:58 GMT+02:00 Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us: I have a question about how to tag concrete kerbs that prevent vehicles from crossing. Below are links to two different examples. Creating

Re: [Tagging] Concrete kerbs in highway

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: but this would only work on a road with no crossings (or all crossing on both roads at the same spot)... Marin, I must be a little slow this morning, please elaborate. -- @osm_seattle

Re: [Tagging] Concrete kerbs in highway

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: the issue, i think is that frequently there are highways that have raised concrete barriers, but with frequent gaps. you end up needing to model this one way or another. there is not really an easy way out. True.

Re: [Tagging] Concrete kerbs in highway

Try this link https://goo.gl/photos/3tyt92t4fdVVw3mN9 On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com wrote: On Mon, 2015-06-22 at 16:58 -0700, Clifford Snow wrote: https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipN7JZ5SUnvtE-lBS9isblsmQQ2NEbjKq9Wxldyo https

[Tagging] Concrete kerbs in highway

I have a question about how to tag concrete kerbs that prevent vehicles from crossing. Below are links to two different examples. Creating a dual carriageway doesn't seem correct. Turn restrictions would help vehicles routing, but that doesn't tell emergency vehicles that they can drive over the

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] README tag with editor support

On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: 1) formalize the README tag as a way to caution future mappers 2) request editor support, when someone goes to change a README tagged entity, it would be nice if editors would popup a dialog saying something along

Re: [Tagging] SHAPE_Leng, SHAPE_Area, GIS_ACRES

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Mike Thompson miketh...@gmail.com wrote: I am encountering the tags SHAPE_Leng, SHAPE_Area, GIS_ACRES on US National Forests. If I am making other edits to the OSM element in question, can these be deleted? Converted to some other tag? They don't seem

Re: [Tagging] Long Tail ( was Removal of amenity from OSM tagging)

On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: Let's use human power, not spam power. How about if first edits caused some sort of flag that experienced users see, and can welcome and thank the new user for registering and contributing. This is possible now, but

Re: [Tagging] Long Tail ( was Removal of amenity from OSM tagging)

On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 4:46 AM, Daniel Koć daniel@koć.pl wrote: My long tail intuition are now supported by a scientific study called Characterizing the Heterogeneity of the OpenStreetMap Data and Community, and we know even how much advanced users are there! The abstract says: All three

Re: [Tagging] Proposed tag shop=wholesale

On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Andrew MacKinnon andrew...@gmail.com wrote: A lot of Costco's customers are small businesses who buy wholesale from Costco and then resell at higher prices, but many individuals shop as well. So shop=wholesale is probably reasonable. Is the consensus that

Re: [Tagging] Proposed tag shop=wholesale

On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Andrew MacKinnon andrew...@gmail.com wrote: I propose to create the tag shop=wholesale for stores that sell large quantities of merchandise in bulk, such as Costco and Sam's Club. Many such stores require a membership to join. See

Re: [Tagging] Artist studio?

On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Am 25.04.2015 um 02:04 schrieb johnw jo...@mac.com: there is no documented craft=artist (as in canvas creator), but there is house painter. there is “sculptor and glaziery so it looks as if craft=artist

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Bryce that addr:unit could be an interesting candidate for all these similar situations. Wonder if we would repeat the complete address information on every single object then. Another issue with

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of pitches within a campsite

...@fitchdesign.com wrote: Some places have individual tent locations but no street address: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/34.80931/-119.17480layers=D On April 22, 2015 7:51:26 AM PDT, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 1:51 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer

Re: [Tagging] Defacto: man_made=storage_tank

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 10:20 PM, Mateusz Konieczny matkoni...@gmail.com wrote: I think that building=storage_tank would be even better. That ship has sailed. man_made=storage_tank is the standard. Maybe early on it should have been man_made=building, building=* but we have an accepted

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - trailhead

The trailhead proposal is long overdue. They are common around areas I've lived in the US. They usually have limited parking, signage, sometimes a place to pay, and some even have permanent or portable restrooms. Thanks for creating the proposal. A couple of comments on the proposal: A node for

Re: [Tagging] model airplane airfield

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Jo winfi...@gmail.com wrote: Yesterday the Easter eggs were dropping from model airplanes. Of course I want to map where this happened and were this club has their airfield. Check out sport=model_aerodrome.

Re: [Tagging] model airplane airfield

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 8:04 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: this looks like a bad tag, because aerodrome is a place and not a kind of sport/activity. Wouldn't this value fit better into leisure (aside pitch, track etc.)? For sport (if this can be considered a sport) I'd

Re: [Tagging] model airplane airfield

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: thing is, aerodrome or model aerodrome, is not a sport nor an activity, it is a physical place. It doesn't fit into the set of other values that can be found within sport. You might want to change the wiki

Re: [Tagging] [Imports] Mechanical Tagging Proposal - dump_station - conditional

Since one of the principles of OSM is not to tag for the renderer, then I say do it. The renderers can easily catch up. On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:21 AM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote: I additionally propose to fully deprecate *recycling:excrement=yes/no*, which is well covered by

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move smoking tag to active status

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Shawn K. Quinn skqu...@rushpost.com wrote: I don't object, but it would be nice if there was a way to say a city or county was non-smoking in certain types of establishments by default, in addition to tagging each one as smoking=no. I agree. Since OSM is a

Re: [Tagging] Accepted or rejected?

The reality is that a tag becomes approved once it is adopted by developers and is used extensively. Voting has its purpose, mainly to weed out proposals that need more work. As others have said 8 approvals and 7 declines indicate that more work needs to be done. Even if a proposal receives 8

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - shop=storage

On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 5:53 AM, jonat...@bigfatfrog67.me wrote: I disagree, it's perfectly possible to make a decision on a vote by reading other people’s comments/concerns and if not properly address then vote against. Likewise, you can vote for a proposal even without being party to the

Re: [Tagging] Blatant tagging for the renderer: bridges abandoned railways

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:18 AM, ael law_ence@ntlworld.com wrote: Your sort of comment to someone who has contributed years of solid work to OSM is enough to make me consider ceasing to contribute. Please ignore these types of comments. While we all generally agree that tagging for the

Re: [Tagging] recent change to ranger_station proposal

There is a pretty complete wiki [1] page for US NPS tagging. Looks like we could use some clarification of Ranger Station, but the visitor center is mapped as information https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:information= office https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:information%3Doffice

Re: [Tagging] high mobile masts on man_made=mast

On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Mihkel Rämmel r...@hot.ee wrote: Does anyone have objections to adding a second picture of mobile mast to man_made=mast on wiki and clarifying that masts can be higher than 'only a few meters'.

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 12:54 PM, John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com wrote: Once again, we are divided by a common language. In American usage, a cistern is a holding tank for captured rain water, used as an alternative to a well in areas where no city water supply is available. They often

Re: [Tagging] How to tag a cistern?

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: In Australia rain water collection is common, or more correctly essential, in country areas. They are usually placed on the ground, or on a platform. Less frequently they are on elevated platforms or underground. Frequently

Re: [Tagging] Basic philosophy of OSM tagging

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:34 PM, johnw jo...@mac.com wrote: As an easy (well, easier) fix - it might be a good idea for iD to show, color coded, what option is chosen for a road - white for paved, grey striped for gravel and friends, and brown for various ground / soil/ mud etc. it might

Re: [Tagging] AddrN

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Dmitry Kiselev dkise...@osm.me wrote: Here they are http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/78y If you read http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/addrN you will find photographs how such addresses looks like in real life. And it's not the case when you

Re: [Tagging] AddrN

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Dmitry Kiselev dkise...@osm.me wrote: Conscriptionnumbers is just an example, one of the examples. Can we have some other examples? -- @osm_seattle osm_seattle.snowandsnow.us OpenStreetMap: Maps with a human touch

Re: [Tagging] AddrN

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Dmitry Kiselev dkise...@osm.me wrote: What kind of examples do you need? Ideally a sample that would include other types of multiple addresses. For example in the US, of the top of my head, I can think of three types opf multiple addresses. 1) vanity addresses,

Re: [Tagging] AddrN

Dmitry, If these are conscription numbers, why not use the addr:conscriptionnumber tag? It is document in the wiki [1] and appears to be in use. It would also appear more accurate and less likely to lead to misuse. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Aaddr%3Aconscriptionnumber Clifford

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addrN:*

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:10 AM, Dan S danstowell+...@gmail.com wrote: I was thinking about this solution too. The addrN scheme is really quite awkward so it'd be nice to recommend something like simply having two nodes/multipolygons with exactly the same overlapping geometry. However, this

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addrN:*

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Friedrich Volkmann b...@volki.at wrote: This exact approach is new to me. We can discuss its pros and cons, but I think the main message is that multiple addresses are mapped differently all over the world. Every country has its local OSM community which

Re: [Tagging] Change of rendering: place of worship and terminal without building tag

On Fri, Jan 2, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: In the next version of the openstreetmap-carto style sheet (the default rendering used on openstreetmap.org) there will be some changes that might highlight current tagging errors. Is it possible to create a

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=fitness_centre

On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de wrote: That's fine for a stuation like that, but do want to join a rowing club when you just moved to a city and a looking for a fitness centre to work out? Because that's my issue when having leisure=sports_centre +

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=fitness_centre

On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 8:55 AM, Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de wrote: Because that's my issue when having leisure=sports_centre + sport=rowing as tag for your usual commercial gym. Oops. I mean sport=fitness (So a rowing club would be fine with leisure=sports_centre +

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=fitness_centre

On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de wrote: ess_centre:access=membership, fitness_centre:access=club? private? Or have something like fitness_centre=yes? (Not sure as we already have sport=*) Honestly didn't think that much about this, because I just wanted a tag

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=fitness_centre

On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 6:21 AM, Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de wrote: Just had the great idea to suggest tagging gyms/fintess centres for the German a weekly task (new year's resolutions incoming), when I realized we still don't have tagging schema for it. After I failed to address the

Re: [Tagging] Moveable objects tagged as building=*

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 4:59 PM, 715371 osmu715...@gmx.de wrote: I am wondering if the building-tag should be used for moveable objects. I guess that this is not in the sense of the meaning of building (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Building#Residential and check for houseboats). For

Re: [Tagging] Moveable objects tagged as building=*

On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: When is a 'houseboat' a floating home? Here houseboats are self propelled, floating homes are not .. don't know about elsewhere. That would be a fairly simple distinction. Not all houseboats are self propelled. Owners often

Re: [Tagging] Combining gas stations convenience stores

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Jack Burke burke...@gmail.com wrote: -1. I don't really agree. The parking/driving area is no more a part of the gas station than any other parking lot is part of the store/building they service. I usually do building=roof + layer=1 + amenity=fuel +

Re: [Tagging] custom road ref shields

I've been trying to understand the issues that keep us from having Pictural Route Shields. The issue is on github [1] but as best as I can understand, it gets down to how we (US) tag routes. From talking to Paul Norman we need to fix the tagging problems before we can get pictural route shields.

Re: [Tagging] boundary=aboriginal_lands versus boundary=protected_area

On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 7:00 PM, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: I've read over both proposals, and both are getting long in the tooth. I realize that the former is slightly more commonly used, but neither have much traction for use in strangely incongruous, overlapping areas that

Re: [Tagging] governmental / public_administrative landuse are not commercial

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 4:02 PM, johnw jo...@mac.com wrote: Civic is what I suggested a few months ago. but where the line is drawn is up for debate: what is included in this catch-all, and what isn’t. I’ve tried arguing that each class should have their own catch-all landuse - eg: we have

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: What people probably want to tag are waters that are interesting to scuba divers. Maybe we should make a tag like leisure=scuba_diving_attraction. I haven't followed this thread but Janko's comment reminded me that of

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=stationery, shop=office_supplies

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 5:01 PM, Matthijs Melissen i...@matthijsmelissen.nl wrote: We have currently two tags with a closely related, if not identical, meaning: shop=stationery (8038 instances) and shop=office_supplies (177 instances). Is there a difference between these two tags, or should

Re: [Tagging] Pre-RFC: shop=stationery, shop=office_supplies

On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: I know I have used office_supply for Staples. When I looked it up in the wiki, the stationery page did not include the examples of the office superstores and my impression was that it was intended for smaller shops,

Re: [Tagging] man_made=bridge

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com wrote: There is a reason why I have never started a vote for this proposal (and some others): in many cases voting simply doesn't work. In my opinion it is much better if the community simply votes by tagging - or not

Re: [Tagging] floating or pontoon bridges?

Here in Western Washington we call them pontoons. See http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/Projects/SR520/Pontoons.htm We've never properly tagged the bridge type but they are pontoons. These pontoons do not look like the wiki picture, but are big boxes which are anchored to the lake/ocean floor. BTW - these

Re: [Tagging] floating or pontoon bridges?

On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: While I generally agree with your agreement, this is not true, ships can be built out of concrete (think aircraft carriers for instance), and German universities even hold a regular competition who builds the

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