Re: [Tagging] tags for tutor or coaching out of school

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 at 08:28, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Pretty sure someone was working on a proposal for exactly that last year, > & it made a lot of sense > Here you go: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Education_Reform_Alternative May have stalled

Re: [Tagging] tags for tutor or coaching out of school

On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 at 08:17, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I think it would be good to have a tag eduction=tutoring. > That could then have sub tags for max:age/min:age etc. > > That then leads into thinking on using an education key for > schools/colleges/kindergartens etc... which

Re: [Tagging] discouraging shop=fashion

On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 18:36, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > On 3/10/19 9:11 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Mar 9, 2019, 11:16 PM by selfishseaho...@gmail.com: > > I'm in favour of deprecating shop=fashion because of its unclear > meaning > > Based on discussion(s) it seems that there is no

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - police=*

On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 14:59, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > There are various 'prisons'. The OSM one is one kind. Police can have > small ones they hold people in e.g. while drunk, or before sending on to > court, courts can have their own too. > > In American English, that’s a jail. Usually these

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - police=*

On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 06:51, Jan S wrote: > I have written up a draft of a police scheme. > Good start Jan. A first few thoughts. police=naval_base sounds very dramatic & possibly a bit over the top? Having said that, none of the other common options seem quite right either eg mooring / dock

Re: [Tagging] Healthcare=counselling and healthcare=psychotherapist?

On Sat, 9 Mar 2019 at 13:28, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > The healthcare wiki page has a number of subtags listed, but not all > are well defined. In particular, the tags for behavioral health and > psychology services are not very well organized. > > There is currently a list of options for more

Re: [Tagging] amenity=police

On Sat, 9 Mar 2019 at 09:47, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > it is literally a safe-keeping ground, but what it actually means is an > area to store seized/confiscated objects (e.g. vehicles). > Ah, thanks, makes perfect sense now! - we know them as a holding-yard. fun fact: there’s an official

Re: [Tagging] Baby-sitting

On Sat, 9 Mar 2019 at 05:56, Jmapb wrote: > I'd be inclined towards childcare=yes, Yes, that seems a better option than baby_sitting Define ages as well? age=0-14 min_age= max_age= Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] amenity=police

On Sat, 9 Mar 2019 at 04:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > E.g. (I guess these aren't police stations, > Yeah, places like this one :-) https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/380771 (Or is it?) > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/23462697 > & what's a "Sicherstellungsgelände der Polizei" ?

Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

Thanks Andy On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 20:22, Andy Townsend wrote: > There are ways that are genuinely highway=raceway: > Just looking at it, would I be right in saying that that stretch, & the straight / pits over to the East are pure racetrack & nothing else, but the rest of the circuit is public

Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 17:43, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Is route marked on the ground > Stays partially marked - the "boxes" for the starting grid & the start / finish line stay year round, but are redone for the race itself. The rest of the race lane markings get painted over after the race

Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

ing part of it, but certainly don't remember doing so?) Thanks Graeme On Fri, 8 Mar 2019 at 14:12, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 08/03/19 11:47, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > I've seen the same tracks marked for once-a-year car races on > > otherwise normal streets - they

Re: [Tagging] Tagging professional cycling competitions as route=bicycle?

I've seen the same tracks marked for once-a-year car races on otherwise normal streets - they should also be deleted? Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Possibility to draw parking properties as an area

Thanks Jason On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 at 12:18, Jmapb wrote: > Yo passepor wants to "draw exactly what space is occuping" so in that case > putting the area to the side of the road probably makes more sense, > Just thinking about it, you'd only map strips of marked individual parking bays, wouldn't

Re: [Tagging] Possibility to draw parking properties as an area

On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 at 05:29, Jmapb wrote: > > On the other hand, if drawing amenity=parking areas alongside the street > is what you want to do, certainly I've seen situations (such as the ones > Paul linked to) where that seems to work well. > I'd also agree that amenity=parking on the road

Re: [Tagging] Possibility to draw parking properties as an area

On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 02:56, yo paseopor wrote: > Moment has arrived. > I need the use of the tagging scheme into a separated items (not only the > highway itself) to make possible the draw of specific parking areas (or > spaces if it is specified) in the streets with their properties exactly >

Re: [Tagging] amenity=police

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 22:01, Jan S wrote: > As amenity=police is currently being used indiscriminately for almost all > police-related facilities, we would have to review all police buildings > manually anyways to differentiate police stations and other units. In the > long run, I would

Re: [Tagging] leisure=common replacement for public areas with some trees

On Tue, 5 Mar 2019 at 21:36, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Sounds like landuse=recreation_ground or leisure=park to me. > Yep, I'd also suggest =recreation_ground. I've just tried & it renders over the top of residential area, so it will appear as a lighter patch of green in between your

Re: [Tagging] What is a conscription number (addr:conscriptionnumber)?

Yes, nice & clear thanks Mateusz - when I'd seen the name listed previously, I'd always assumed it was something to do with allocating areas for conscription for military service! Just clarifying for my own interests sake - so the village / suburb only has a number, rather than a name? So your

Re: [Tagging] New Tag "Departures" voting results.

On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 at 00:21, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 at 08:14, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> So a documented way of including GTFS link in routes? >> > > Yep. We could just use url=* > When I've been adding bus stops, I've been using timetable= linked to the GTFS

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 at 07:02, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > And emergency vehicle are exempt from traffic laws. > > Being picky, but (at least out here) they're not exempt, they're just allowed to break them :-) eg in an emergency, an ambulance can go through a red light, but if they cause an

Re: [Tagging] amenity=police

On Thu, 28 Feb 2019 at 21:44, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > I wonder what we call "police" in OSM. > > The wiki does not offer a lot of guidance (France aside): "A police > station is a building where police officers and other staff work and are > dispatched from, and where suspects and evidence

Re: [Tagging] How to map Hostile Architecture? e.g. benches you can't lie/sleep on?

Seem to remember we talked about this a while back in regard to really skinny / sloped benches in bus stops or similar, that you can only perch on, rather than sitting down properly, & that are intended to stop people sleeping on them? Can't see anything under =bench for a tagging solution

Re: [Tagging] Clarification unclassified vs residential

On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 at 00:27, djakk djakk wrote: > Hello ! > > I think we should decorrelate the attributes of a road : its > administrative class, its importance in the road network (at least 5 > levels), its physical characteristics (motorway-like, two large lanes, > link=yes ...), possibly

Re: [Tagging] Sharps / syringe disposal

On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 at 02:28, Markus wrote: > Do you or someone else happen to know what is allowed to throw into a bin > labelled 'syringes'? I would have guessed needles and ampoules, but no > other sharp waste such as scalpels. > Bins in public areas (parks, public toilets etc) are intended

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 at 20:48, Eugene Podshivalov wrote: > The primary concern of mine about the current definitios of drain and > ditch is that some people are differentiating them by size. > > or stay close to dictionary definitions which assumes some overlapping > between the meanings. Here is

Re: [Tagging] units and notations for maxstay

On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 22:31, Paul Allen wrote: > On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 12:08, marc marc wrote: > >> Le 20.02.19 à 12:39, Colin Smale a écrit : >> > "T2H" could be enough. What's the minimum IQ required to understand >> > "T2H", "T30M" or "5D"? >> >> ask other mapper how to tag "2 hours" in

Re: [Tagging] units and notations for maxstay

On Thu, 21 Feb 2019 at 04:35, OSMDoudou < 19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96-288ea1238...@gmx.com> wrote: > > I think any discussion of dates and times should start by asking if we > could apply ISO8601 to the problem at hand. For example the other thread > about start date variants. > > By the way, ISO

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: [tagging] Canoe route / nautical channels

On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 at 01:30, Fernando Trebien wrote: > > I've applied the two fairway tags to a major fairway on a lake [1][2], > please let me know if you think anything should be mapped differently. > At first glance, it seems to work, thanks Fernando. Dave / Kenny - would it also work for

Re: [Tagging] units and notations for maxstay

On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 13:48, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Units. > > On tag info there are values with no units... they could be hours, > minute or days. > > I would suggest the default unit of hours. > > Abbreviations? > > h for hours > > m for minutes > > mos for months > d for days

Re: [Tagging] units and notations for depth

On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 12:45, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > The wiki has no units for depth, I would suggest these be the same as > height. > Makes sense - default as m's, but can be marked as ft depending on local standards > There are also problems with estimation and variability. >

Re: [Tagging] Rivers intermittently navigable

On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 12:32, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Only navigability is intermittent. > > I think Graeme is suggesting > > boat=intermittent > > motorboat=intermittent > > These values are not documented but make sense. > Sorry, yes, that is what I was suggesting, rather

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 09:23, Paul Allen wrote: > > According to a sketch in a comedy show from so long ago I can barely > remember it, the source > of the River Thames was traced to a dripping tap. Which was fixed and the > river dried up. > > I don't think it was Monty Python, though it might

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 at 06:11, Paul Allen wrote: > On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 at 19:50, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> >> >> Am Mo., 18. Feb. 2019 um 19:41 Uhr schrieb Eugene Podshivalov < >> yauge...@gmail.com>: >> >>> There are a lot of straightened rivers and streams all over the world. >>> Would

[Tagging] Sharps / syringe disposal

Carrying on from where it was raised under Medicine Disposal On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 18:56, Markus wrote: > On Sat, 16 Feb 2019, 00:59 Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > >> >> Would =drugs also apply to sharps bins for needle disposal? >> >> I would think

Re: [Tagging] Medicine Disposal

On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 at 05:18, Paul Allen wrote: > > In the UK returned drugs cannot be recycled even if they have not > expired. There are safety > issues to do with tampering. > Same thing applies in Australia, even if the original seals haven't yet been broken. Thanks Graeme

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "test preperation" / cram school / Juku (eg: Komon)

On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 at 03:51, Erkin Alp Güney wrote: > This is correct: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Education_Reform_Alternative Any further progress with your proposal Erkin? There's at least one comment supporting the idea, & I would also like to see it

Re: [Tagging] Medicine Disposal

On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 05:00, Markus wrote: > > According to our wiki it's waste=drugs (only 21 uses, but still more than > any waste=medic*). > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:waste > Would =drugs also apply to sharps bins for needle disposal? I would think they should have their

Re: [Tagging] Waterway length

On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 01:38, Eugene Podshivalov wrote: > André, that's correct but do you happen to know why "distance" was > selected for route and waterway length then? > No idea why, but rivers should certainly be shown with a length. EG The Nile rises in Lake Victoria & travels to the

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: [tagging] Canoe route / nautical channels

On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 00:12, Fernando Trebien wrote: > > For well-known partially unmarked shipping routes, I think there would > be no problem lifting the requirement of navigation marks. But I'm not > sure if this applies to canoe routes, which are usually not marked. > I'm neither a sailor

Re: [Tagging] Problems with Open Street Browser

Hi Stephan On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 19:16, Stephan Bösch-Plepelits wrote: > > Hi, tagging is really the wrong place, as this is for discussion how to > tag > items. > Yep, definitely, but couldn't find any contact method for OSB? > > Create an issue there:

[Tagging] Problems with Open Street Browser

First saw Open Street Browser in the last couple of days, after it was mentioned in one of the threads here. Having a play in my area & noticed some problems with the way data is shown. Does anybody know how to report stuff like that? To clarify, info is mapped correctly in OSM, but when you

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: [tagging] Canoe route / nautical channels

On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 04:05, Fernando Trebien wrote: > On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 10:49 AM Dave Swarthout > wrote: > > > > The seamark definition in the supplied link is very general. I cannot > see how anyone could misinterpret this use of either waterway=fairway or > seamark:type=fairway unless

Re: [Tagging] tree rows vs individual trees

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 07:28, Paul Allen wrote: > Or very tall grass. > All we need is Warin's lawn mower ^ - that'll fix 'em! :-) Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] tree rows vs individual trees

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 at 00:26, Ture Pålsson wrote: > However, I believe tree rows sometimes appear on their own. For example, > the tree row in this > picture (which was in the side bar of the Wiki for natural=tree_row) looks > like it is not lining anything in particular: > Yep, you see similar

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - building:soft_storey

Typo in link! Correct link is: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/building:soft_storey Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] tree rows vs individual trees

On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 10:26, Paul Allen wrote: > > > On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 00:07, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> barrier=hedge >> I would not tag these as tree rows. >> > > Check the shadows. Some of those are hedges. Some of those are hedges > with occasional > trees. And some are

Re: [Tagging] man_made=storage_tank for open containers?

On Mon, 11 Feb 2019 at 08:48, marc marc wrote: > if you are in front of a tank, man_made=tank > I'd suggest possibly man_made=storage "type"=tank / silo / bin then > after, you can add (sub)tags describing : > - if a cover/roof exist or not > - if its use is storage or an industrial process

Re: [Tagging] Micronations

On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 at 05:42, Simon Poole wrote: > The user in question has already been blocked and at least their initial > changesets were reverted 2 months ago. Naturally any remaining fictional > edits should be reverted too and the user reported again to tho DWG. > Thanks Simon The whole

[Tagging] "Map features" page language

Just looking at the Map Features page & noticed that under Highway - Special Road Types https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features#Special_road_types the description for "Escape" has been changed to apparently Russian? I can't see how it's been changed? Could some knowledgeable person :-)

Re: [Tagging] man_made=storage_tank for open containers?

On Sat, 9 Feb 2019 at 05:07, Markus wrote: > If man_made=storage_tank has been used for closed containers, it might be > better to find another > tag to not loose that tag's meaning. > Are you storing solids or liquids? For solids, bunker_silo (which I have never before heard them referred to

Re: [Tagging] Mountain Ranges

The thing that would worry me about tagging it as a way is the length. As you know, the Great Dividing Range is 3500k long, which would well & truly stretch things! Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

[Tagging] Micronations

Does OSM recognise, & allow the mapping of, micronations as defined areas? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micronation Was looking for something completely different :-) & just found this https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/653287455#map=15/38.0034/-87.6183 showing the "nation" of Pitchfork Union

Re: [Tagging] motorcycle:scale

On Thu, 7 Feb 2019 at 23:59, Paul Allen wrote: > > There's a hierarchy of tag acceptability based upon how much forethought > has gone into it. > Proposed and approved. Proposed and rejected. Proposed and lapsed. > Widely used. > Used once or twice. Used once by somebody who didn't know there

Re: [Tagging] motorcycle:scale

On Wed, 6 Feb 2019 at 06:50, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > This is a scenario in which, as far as I can tell, Mary and Mike have > done everything right, but the community has failed them. Which of > these likely outcomes is the 'least worst'? > Thanks Kevin, unfortunately you've summed up fairly well

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 08:12, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Both my sons went through the Australian Air Force Cadets > http://www.aafc.org.au/ > > It was emphasised that "The Australian Air Force Cadets (AAFC) is a youth > oriented organisation that is administered an

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 12:07, marc marc wrote: > I think it would be better to continue the current club=scout system and > add precision with > scouts=Scouts|Guiding|Patro|Chiro or any other tag to describe the > "upstream" organisation/variant. > That's a nice neat solution +1 Naturally

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

On Sat, 2 Feb 2019 at 22:57, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > A club, being an association between people, is not a geographical entity. > > Thus I prefer tagging the physical entity, which is the club home, with > amenity=community_centre > Not disagreeing Tom, but at least in our area, community

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 at 11:51, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > It appears in the descriptions that a 'ditch' can be used as a 'drain'. So > why have a tag 'drain'? > Really only to differentiate between lined & unlined, which I *think* may be important / needed? Thanks Graeme

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 at 13:57, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 31/01/19 13:02, John Willis via Tagging wrote: > > On Jan 31, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > There are, or were 'cubs' for the younger people, 'rovers' for the older > people, guides for the girls

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 04:45, Markus wrote: > I tried to improve the differentiation and the illustration. > Looks good Markus! A thought. After "Note that 'cape' sometimes refers to a coastal extreme point, i.e. natural =cape

Re: [Tagging] crossing=cycleway as a node

On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 at 21:30, Marc Gemis wrote: > But often, the cycleway crossing the road is not mapped. How would you > map a bicycle only crossing if the parallel cycleway is mapped as > cycleway=lane on the highway=x ? Such as this:

Re: [Tagging] Classification ( and symbols ) according to context ( relative importance, size, or other 'context' )

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 15:49, Michael Patrick wrote: > Fundamentally, you are attempting to make a categorization of the > rankings in the distribution of counts ( population ) of some subset > of a domain. > Thanks Michael - fairly deep, but if I interpreted it correctly, it backs up what I

Re: [Tagging] Forest parcel with other landcover (scrub, scree…): how to map?

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 23:16, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > This is based on relative importance rather than on built-up area or > administrative size or population. > Replied in "size in osm (tag <> size of the polygone)" thread Thanks Graeme ___

Re: [Tagging] size in osm (tag <> size of the polygone) (was: Forest parcel with other landcover (scrub, scree…): how to map?)

Replying to other thread here On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 23:16, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > place=hamlet, place=village, place=town, place=city. > > This is based on relative importance rather than on built-up area or > administrative size or population. > Which agrees with my argument - even if

Re: [Tagging] Forest parcel with other landcover (scrub, scree…): how to map?

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 16:52, Marc Gemis wrote: > I wonder how puzzled someone would be when they look at the original > question "how to map scrub in forests" and then, without going through > the whole thread, sees e.g the following mail in that thread: > Yes, way back up there ^ somewhere,

Re: [Tagging] Forest parcel with other landcover (scrub, scree…): how to map?

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 12:09, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 24/01/19 12:50, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > It’s not possible to have “town” level services with less than 1000 > people. A town has a major market (retail area) serving the surrounding > area, as well as basic educational,

Re: [Tagging] Forest parcel with other landcover (scrub, scree…): how to map?

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 10:19, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 23. Jan 2019, at 22:35, Paul Allen wrote: > > > > According to the wiki, they're not > > based on services either. > > > if the wiki says it explicitly like this we should fix it. > Just looking & it's a mixture, & also a bit of

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Re: Forest parcel with other landcover (scrub, scree…): how to map?

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 08:33, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 24/01/19 09:19, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > Was mapping yesterday, put in an area, then when I started searching for > the description, iD brought up one of it's totally inappropriate > suggestions

Re: [Tagging] Forest parcel with other landcover (scrub, scree…): how to map?

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 09:03, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > It would be usefull to know that a scrub area is so dense that it cannot > be walked through, > yet another scrub area is so sparse that a fire cannot propagate without > wind. > > I agree! Those definitions are a pretty good start. > >

Re: [Tagging] Fwd: Re: Forest parcel with other landcover (scrub, scree…): how to map?

On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 07:46, Paul Allen wrote: > If we ever decide on an appropriate tagging scheme (landuse=logging or > landuse=forestry > + forestry=logging or whatever) and it gets rendered in some way that is > distinct from > natural= wood (say an axe icon at the centre) then it will be

Re: [Tagging] Forest parcel with other landcover (scrub, scree…): how to map?

On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 at 07:10, Tod Fitch wrote: > > Perhaps the way forward would be to change the wiki to indicate that > landuse=forest is deprecated due to its confused usage. Add some text to > the page directing mappers to either landcover=trees if they are simply > mapping the presence of

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

When I look at the area, it turns out that Pointe des Espagnols is the extreme tip of the Roscanvel Peninsula, which itself comes off the Crozon Peninsula eg https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/65/Iroise_sea_map-en.svg If we add say Pointe des Capucins & Point de Cornouaille, it

Re: [Tagging] The actual use of the level tag

I've seen a similar issue with a shop in our area https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/351561908#map=19/-28.08993/153.45070 The street address is 15 Park Avenue, but the only thing there is the car park, with staff entry, goods lift & customer stairs & lift, but that should (?) be level=0 as that

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 at 07:57, Markus wrote: > On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 at 00:23, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > > > OK, how about "A natural=cape can be part of a natural=peninsula, a > natural=peninsula can be part of a larger natural=peninsula, but a > nat

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

On Sun, 20 Jan 2019 at 06:47, Markus wrote: > > The Southport Spit isn't an isthmus. Of course it isn't! I knew that so I'll blame temporary brain-fade! > By the way, natural=isthmus already exists [3]; it > just lacks a proposal. Yes, I meant that the page doesn't exist Thanks Graeme

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 at 13:06, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > There are 'point's and 'necks' that are completely inland too. So cape and > peninsula do not fit these. > No, because capes & peninsulas are places going out into the sea / lakes :-) Inland ones (if I'm thinking of the right

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 at 10:43, Kevin Kenny wrote: > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 7:21 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick > > Smaller features, such as ... > > could all also be mapped as =cape > > We don't HAVE to have a tag for every > word in the English language! Sorry, Kevin, but

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 at 10:42, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > “simply map them by what they're called Cape Agulhas is a =cape, Cape York > Peninsula is a =peninsula.” > > That only works in English (and closely-related languages). > But isn't OSM supposed to work in English (& British English at

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 at 09:26, Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Saturday 19 January 2019, Markus wrote: > > > By the way, i measured a few dozen of > > points/capes/headlands/peninsulas of Brittany. Most either have an > > area of about 0.1–0.5 km² (they are usually called pointes 'points') > > or >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 at 09:09, Markus wrote: > It certainly can be phrased better (this isn't my strong point), but i > wanted to make it clear that a peninsula can also be part of a bigger > peninsula. > OK, how about "A natural=cape can be part of a natural=peninsula, a natural=peninsula can

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – natural=peninsula (Was: Feature Proposal – RFC – place=peninsula)

On Sat, 19 Jan 2019 at 05:49, Markus wrote: > I've updated the proposal [1], > Good work, Markus A couple of thoughts ... Both natural=cape and natural=peninsula can be part of a natural=peninsula , comes out a bit awkwardly. Maybe just leave it as "A n=c can be part of a n=p", but a n=p

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

& done! Thanks again for simple, straight-forward instructions, Warin :-) Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

Created two further pages to (hopefully!) cover all options? :-) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dmobile_home https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shop%3Dmanufactured_home Together with some re-wording on the main page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dcaravan Should

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 at 17:35, Marc Gemis wrote: > A trailhead is the start of a trail, but I haven't seen the definition > of a trail yet. > Wikipedia: A *trail* is usually a *path*, *track* or unpaved lane or road. In Australia, the term *track* can be used interchangeably with trail, and can

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 22:17, Paul Allen wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 08:24, Dave Swarthout > wrote: > >> I appreciate your efforts on this, Graeme, believe me. >> > Thanks! > However, seeing as motorhome and recreational_vehicle are so similar, I >> would use motorhome as a top-level tag

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 20:07, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Your proposal looks good. I would vote "yes" on it. > Yep, I would as well. One every minor thought - under "How to map" you have "Name of the trailhead" - maybe change that to be "trailhead or trail / track"? Reason is that in Australia

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 15:27, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > Ah. In the US we say just, 'horse trailer.' The only time I think we > use 'float' in anything near that sense is 'parade float' - an > elaborately decorated vehicle taking part in a parade, often carrying > performers or dignitaries. > Yep,

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

OK, so after taking in everybody's thoughts & comments (thanks! :-)), I've come up with: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dcaravan https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shop%3Dmotorhome https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shop%3Drecreational_vehicle How's that? As always, all

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 10:28, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > Although the 1st definition sort of agrees with your usage, the common > definition in the U.S. is closer to the other two. There are several other > definitions given but most of them are similar to those two. So it will be > a bit

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 23:28, Eugene Podshivalov wrote: > The confusion is mainly in the difference between irrigation canals vs > irrigation ditches and drainage diches vs drains. > > In practice wide irrigation channels are called canals whereas small ones > are called diches and people tend

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 06:07, Paul Allen wrote: > On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 19:51, Mark Wagner wrote: > >> If you use "shop=mobile_home" as the top-level tag, it'll almost never >> be tagged correctly in the United States. In the US, a >> "shop=mobile_home" is this: >> > Same thing in Australia.

Re: [Tagging] Yay, new howto map for diabilities created in wiki

On Wed, 16 Jan 2019 at 00:57, Philip Barnes wrote: > > On 15 January 2019 10:02:34 GMT, althio wrote: > > How to map for the needs of people with disabilities. > It was mentioned earlier that both handicapped & disabled are no longer "nice" words, & are currently changing to "special needs".

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 09:51, Kevin Kenny wrote: > I've even seen parties going in opposite directions arrange to exchange > their keys at the midpoint, and then each picks up the other's car at > the end and drives to a common meeting point. Long-distance hikers are > a creative lot. > Yep,

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 09:04, Tod Fitch wrote: > > Guess: Someone found it on the trail and figured it would be easier for > the person missing it to find it hanging from the sign than some place > along miles of trail. > Bit of a problem when you've got to walk back the 65 klm looking for it!

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 08:50, Paul Allen wrote: > > RV may not be only American, but it's still not UK English. > Of course, you are correct Paul, I was forgetting for a moment that OSM is supposed to be British English throughout (although we all know that that's not really true!). Minor

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

What's the key dangling there for, Kev? Thanks Graeme On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 08:05, Kevin Kenny wrote: > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ke9tv/14920080943/ - > ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 07:24, Paul Allen wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 21:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > >> >> type=powered / towed; >> > > Except, from the definitions I've seen, it excludes static caravans. > Which are mobile (even if only > m

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 19:46, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Americans would call them travel trailers, or camper trailers, and I would > also categorize fifth-wheel campers as trailers, despite their sometimes > enormous size, because they are pulled by a separate vehicle. > Yep, agree with you To

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 at 11:16, Kevin Kenny wrote: > Just to be a little pedantic, 'motorhome' would also fit the big > fifth-wheel units towed behind a monstrous great pickup - > I would have said that a 5th-wheeler would have been put in with towed "caravans", as it doesn't have it's own motor.

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