Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature proposal - Tag:natural=wadi

I like this proposal very much. One thing: by its nature, other naturals will overlap with natural=wadi, right? Any thoughts on that? And, you say you can map it as a node. That seems a bit strange, because it's such an elongated feature. Fr gr Peter Elderson Op za 25 mei 2024 om 17:51 schreef

Re: [Tagging] How to Tag Steps in a Bridleway

ll carry (or push) a bicycle, even where the way is tagged "bicycle=no".  (from the wiki again) "bicycle / no / Where bicycles are not permitted, ensure this is indicated. Note that carrying or pushing bicycles may be still accepted". So, thanks for asking, but I remain happy wi

Re: [Tagging] How to Tag Steps in a Bridleway

s we do.  key:flat_step *might* be appropriate (and useful to consumers looking to take a child's buggy along the way).  I will give that some thought. Regards,Peter Peter Neale t: 01908 309666 m: 07968 341930 On Monday, 29 April 2024 at 09:09:05 BST, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:

Re: [Tagging] How to Tag Steps in a Bridleway

is now  https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1277843368 I hope this helps and that you agree with the tagging. Regards,Peter (PeterPan99) On Sunday, 28 April 2024 at 17:35:58 BST, Dave F via Tagging wrote: Could you provide the link to the OSM way please? DaveF On 28/04/2024 15:19

Re: [Tagging] How to Tag Steps in a Bridleway

Hi Andy, Many thanks indeed for the very speedy advice.  I will do the basic tagging now (from aerial imagery and memory) and visit again shortly to add more detail. Regards,Peter PeterPan99 On Sunday, 28 April 2024 at 15:40:53 BST, Andy Townsend wrote: On 28/04/2024 15:19, Peter

[Tagging] How to Tag Steps in a Bridleway

lternative to*, not *a qualification of * "highway=bridleway". I don't want to mislead consumers by breaking the bridleway, but I don't want cycling consumers to be unaware of the fact that there are a few steps to descend / ascend, which may require a dismount. Regar

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Documenting feet as an an optional elevation unit

0.3048 m according to my ConvertPad app on my phone - and according to Wikipedia (so that must be true!) Regards,Peter (PeterPann99) On Sunday, 28 January 2024 at 19:36:06 GMT, Philip Barnes wrote: The legal definition of a foot is of course  0.348 m. "Since an internat

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

So, no signage? Incline and mtb-scale still don't say you can't hike there. Fr Gr. Peter Elderson Op vr 8 sep 2023 om 23:01 schreef Mike Thompson : > One of the trails was > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/593945914#map=19/37.99250/-122.50667 > highway <https://wiki.openstreet

Re: [Tagging] Tagging for the renderer : One-way "flow" bicycle tracks

How did you find out what these paths are? Any kind of signage there? Fr Gr Peter Elderson Op vr 8 sep 2023 om 19:08 schreef Bryce Nesbitt : > > I recently went on a hike, guided only by OSMAnd. We ended up planning a > route > that took us uphill on what turned out to be a long s

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-GB] Fords and how to provide information to help with routing apps

Fr gr Peter Elderson Op vr 7 jul 2023 om 03:58 schreef Matija Nalis < mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr>: > On Wed, 5 Jul 2023 18:00:26 +1000, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 5/7/23 03:38, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > >> ford=impas

Re: [Tagging] navigational aid relation

Trying to understand. If I read this right you want the router/navigator to replace the target address of a routing request with a different object or location, then start routing, right? Why not simply tag the object_id or other identifier of the replace-destination on the source object (in your

Re: [Tagging] Picnic_table with barbecue table extension.

barbecue=support ? Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 22 mei 2023 om 20:06 heeft Dave F via Tagging > het volgende geschreven: > >  https://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpghttps://snipboard.io/H5FYGT.jpgHi > I've a leisure=picnic_table but has an extended table top made of metal to > acco

Re: [Tagging] Tagging proposal On Wheels app 4 - Elevators wheelchair users

ngth=*" and "wheelchair_button="?  You do not need to repeat the "elevator" in the tag, if the object that you are tagging is the elevator. Or am I missing something?  Regards,Peter Peter Neale t: 01908 309666 m: 07968 341930 On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 16:51:05 BST, ro.

[Tagging] Fw: Tagging proposal On Wheels app 3 - Parking spaces for wheelchair users

ww.dropbox.com/s/kevp7co3huw6spm/Parking%20Space%20Markings.png?dl=0Source:   Bing Maps Aerial, via OSM iD editor Perhaps I do not fully understand your proposal?    Regards,Peter Peter Neale t: 01908 309666 m: 07968 341930 On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 16:09:46 BST, wrote: Amenity=par

Re: [Tagging] Tagging type of ownership of a road

Well, to me, "type of ownership" suggests values such as "freehold"; "leasehold"; "rented", which I _don't_ think is what is intended. I think we should avoid the word "type" if at all possible.  Regards,Peter(PeterPan99) On Friday, 14

Re: [Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - EV Charging Station Mapping

), nor that all charging stations have been mapped, you can't hope to get an accurate count of chargers from a query, unless the mapping and tagging is very active, complete and kept up to date.Fr Gr Peter EldersonOp 31 mrt. 2023 om 01:54 heeft Andy Townsend het volgende geschreven

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=trailhead

Martin Koppenhoefer : > I believe setting up voting to approve a tag with "de-facto"-status is a > waste of time, particularly if you do not intend to refine the definition, > and an approval will only "downgrade" the tag from "de-facto" to > "approved". People have already voted on the tag by

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=trailhead

. But I trust it'll pass. So far, no criticism on the mapping itself has been posted. (If I had tried the same with landcover=trees|grass don't worry, I won't) Peter Elderson Op vr 24 feb. 2023 om 11:51 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > > > Am Fr., 24.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=trailhead

Sorry, I wasn't clear. The current status of the tag is de facto (was: in use, but someone, not me, amended that). The proposal intends to alter that from de facto to approved, by voting. Fr gr Peter Elderson Op vr 24 feb. 2023 om 09:24 schreef Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > O

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=trailhead

I would like to change the status of this established tag to approved. I have altered the previous proposal to match the established practice. Any comments are welcome, but please note that I am not proposing changes in mapping. I

Re: [Tagging] Combining "locked=yes" with various access tags

Hi @Mateusz, Thank you for clarifying the meaning of "=permit".  I will have to think again how to tag these ways.  If I have used Taginfo correctly there are "only" 1503 ways with "description=redway", which I might have tagged like this!  Regards,Peter(PeterPan99)

Re: [Tagging] Combining "locked=yes" with various access tags

arriers with similar locks, which Fire Services might want to see mapped and correctly tagged. Regards,Peter Peter Neale t: 01908 309666 m: 07968 341930 On Tuesday, 21 February 2023 at 19:04:08 GMT, Marc_marc wrote: Feb 21, 2023, 15:24 by zeev.stad...@gmail.com: >      1. As far a

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

eter is unlikely to be of use to any map user, unless thay are planning to do a U-Turn (which they are supposed to "avoid" doing. Regards,Peter(PeterPan99) On Thursday, 2 February 2023 at 09:04:05 GMT, Philip Barnes wrote: A mini roundabout often doesn't usually have a diameter. M

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

The mini-roundabout just adds priority on the MR to the general keep left rule, that is my understanding. Peter Elderson > Op 29 jan. 2023 om 00:37 heeft Florian Lohoff het volgende > geschreven: > > On Sat, Jan 28, 2023 at 09:12:11PM +, Philip Barnes wrote: >>

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

Op za 28 jan. 2023 om 23:38 schreef Colin Smale : > A form of roundabout common in the Netherlands has an inner ring which is > often distinctly coloured and slightly raised, thus making it clear that > traffic is intended to avoid it and use the outer ring, while keeping it > perfectly usable by

Re: [Tagging] tagging the diameter of a mini-roundabout

ted circle (are traversable domed area) on the ground, perhaps that has a diameter, but does it matter to any prospective map user? Regards,Peter Peter Neale t: 01908 309666 m: 07968 341930 On Wednesday, 25 January 2023 at 17:53:55 GMT, Volker Schmidt wrote: Is there an established

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Announce proposals on the community forum

I get the tagging list mails and the forum messages in one inbox labeled "Forums". If you were to sent the next message to the forum instead of the mailling list, it would land in exactly the same position in my inbox. Fr gr Peter Elderson Op za 7 jan. 2023 om 23:14 schreef Marc_ma

Re: [Tagging] Tagging a hole in the ground

If you cannot see what it is or what it is, it's just a hazard. Peter Elderson Op zo 1 jan. 2023 om 12:51 schreef Troels Arvin : > Hello, > > When I was trekking south of Olympos in Tyrkey, I came across some ruins > which were not on OSM. Within the ruins there is a hole i

Re: [Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

an be a different story. Which means you can't correct naming errors without additional verification, preferably local survey. Peter Elderson ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

+1 PeterPan99 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 at 20:02, Dave F via Tagging wrote: On 29/12/2022 09:47, Warin wrote: > Hi, > > I think the 'names' should be removed from these 'unnamed' things > ..the 'name' is the name of the route not the individual tracks/paths >

Re: [Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

I have seen some paths which actually had the same name as the hiking trail running over it. Normally this is not the case, the path usually has is own local name or no name at all. So most of the time this would be an error, but you can't be sure without survey.Fr Gr Peter EldersonOp 29 dec. 2022

Re: [Tagging] scope of emergency=dry_riser_inlet

Call me old fashioned, but I think that we should only use "dry_riser_inlet" for the inlet to a riser that is... ...wait for it...   ...well, that is dry!  If that means that we needs few more tags to convey more information, then so be it. Regards,Peter PeterPan99 On

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Crossing cleanup and deprecation

, but in no way do they define the crossing, so they have to be mapped as separate objects or attributes. * Traffic experts may have many more names, just none that the general public knows. Fr gr Peter Elderson > Op 29 nov. 2022 om 11:06 heeft Minh Nguyen het > volgende geschreven: > &

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

object". The Wiki should be amended to align more closely to real life. Regards,Peter(PeterPan99) On Tuesday, 8 November 2022 at 08:16:05 GMT, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone > On 8 Nov 2022, at 08:17, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging > wrote: > > Having

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - historic

I would say the lighting is slightly outdated. Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 4 nov. 2022 om 17:06 heeft Brian M. Sperlongano het > volgende geschreven: > >  > I'll offer a well-known example from my country: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Fabulous_Las_Vegas_sig

Re: [Tagging] improve the proposal procedure

I agree that it got a little out of hand, but there were some good proposals and votes as well. Proposing and voting should not be hard, so you always get some lesser quality stuff. Let's not throw away the baby with the wash water. Peter Elderson Op do 20 okt. 2022 om 14:28 schreef Marc_marc

Re: [Tagging] RFC - More sensible values for fountain=*

be decorated, or fitted to a decorative object, but still is an amenity. The BE word fountain, I understand, primarily means the decorative structure including the decorative waterflow. So, to me, any tagging using amenity=fountain sounds like a contradiction. Peter Elderson Op vr 14 okt. 2022 om 12

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Historic

Well, I have not seen the object in question, so I don't know what it is. Perhaps it is a "barrier=wall; historic=yes"or an "abandonned:building=house; historic=yes;"or abandonned:place=village; historic=yes" all, possibly with "ruins=yes" Regards,Peter(Peter

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Historic

ject and another for an historic one (perhaps the same symbol, but in a different colour?) My point is that beíng historic is an attribute of an object that IS something else (battlefield, memorial, house, dairy...).  "historic" is an adjective, not a noun.  Regards,Peter(PeterPan99)

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Historic

Keeping the status as de facto, avoids confusion about approval status of the values. I think it's best to pick another battle. Peter Elderson > Op 11 okt. 2022 om 17:14 heeft martianfreeloader > het volgende geschreven: > > I've reduced the proposal to the historic=* key itsel

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Historic

ences, which were previously occupied by some famous person?  They probably ARE "of historic initerest", but they are still a  "building=house". However, I fear that the (mis) use of "historic=" is so endemic that I am pi**ing into the wind if I try to change it. Regar

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

>I think you're joking about the lemonade, but here's the world's >largestfountain drink cup, now mapped in OSM: Yes, I thought I was joking, but now you tell me it is possible!  LOL Regards,Peter(PeterPan99) On Monday, 10 October 2022 at 20:25:53 BST, Minh Nguyen wrote: Vào

Re: [Tagging] Apparently bubblers emitting jet of water on buton press are water taps

r. So a water-delivery device (whtever you call it) can HAVE a tap (to contol flow of water leaving), but that does NOT mean that the whole thing IS a tap. Regards,Peter PeterPan99 On Sunday, 9 October 2022 at 22:18:50 BST, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Oct 9, 2022, 23:08 by

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

ht struggle and need assistance)   A tap is a device to control the flow of whatever liquid (or gas, I suppose) is coming out.  Potable water, non-potable water; lemonade; petrol (gasoline), Oxygen, whatever... Regards,Peter(PeterPan99) On Saturday, 8 October 2022 at 18:43:39 BST, Pe

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

I have the impression that slow running water points in Europe rapidly are fitted with a push button fot a limited amount of water or a limited tap time. Would that turn them into water taps? Peter Elderson > Op 8 okt. 2022 om 19:26 heeft michael spreng (datendelphin) > het vo

Re: [Tagging] feature Proposal - Voting - settlement_type=crannog

a separate vote for that, fine. If the current vote is postponed till after, fine, it is the royal way I think, but I think it is not necessary. I think we can be practical about this, not principal. It's just not big enough. Peter Elderson Op vr 7 okt. 2022 om 13:10 schreef Andy Townsend : > > On

Re: [Tagging] Terminology primary feature, main tag, etc..

primary feature" does not seem to have any other meaning then just feature. Peter Elderson > Op 3 okt. 2022 om 23:17 heeft Martin Koppenhoefer > het volgende geschreven: > >  >> Am Mo., 3. Okt. 2022 um 12:40 Uhr schrieb martianfreeloader >> : >&g

Re: [Tagging] Terminology primary feature, main tag, etc..

bject type (the value). So, equivalent to main tag. I think the term secondary tag(s) and secondary key(s) are often used for the extra attributes of a feature, implying there should be a main tag first, to give the secondary tags meaning. Peter Elderson Op ma 3 okt. 2022 om 12:40 schreef martian

Re: [Tagging] Terminology primary feature, main tag, etc..

I guess Primary key and Main key are the same. Peter Elderson > Op 3 okt. 2022 om 04:06 heeft Minh Nguyen het > volgende geschreven: > > Vào lúc 10:36 2022-10-02, martianfreeloader đã viết: >> Hi, >> I'm unsure if I'm using correct terminology. I have come across th

Re: [Tagging] Terminology primary feature, main tag, etc..

of an object, as opposed e.g. to an attribute of a changeset. Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 3 okt. 2022 om 04:06 heeft Minh Nguyen het > volgende geschreven: > > Vào lúc 10:36 2022-10-02, martianfreeloader đã viết: >> Hi, >> I'm unsure if I'm using correct terminology. I have

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

. uses smaller "people", some mappers might amend it but most mappers will tolerate the estimate, as will walkers. Adaptive bunch, walkers. Peter Elderson > Op 2 okt. 2022 om 22:21 heeft Raphael het volgende > geschreven: > > Until very recently, the wiki said th

Re: [Tagging] service vs. unclassified, conflicting definitions

the road. Or, a new railway intersects the road and no crossing is provided. In those cases, usually the road is still seen as an unclassified road. Peter Elderson > Op 30 sep. 2022 om 17:48 heeft grin via Tagging > het volgende geschreven: > > Hello, > > To open it for

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

or estimate the capacity different, as long as they don't remove my capacity tag. Peter Elderson Op do 29 sep. 2022 om 14:10 schreef martianfreeloader < martianfreeloa...@posteo.net>: > Facing heavy objections and no support, I have come to the conclusion > that my proposal is not consi

Re: [Tagging] Is it man_made=water_tap?

IMHO, if the user cannot (normally) access it, it is not worth mapping.  Or, do you want to micro-map every control valve (same function as a tap) in the water supply system, including those that cannot be seen? Regards,Peter(PeterPan99) On Wednesday, 28 September 2022 at 09:07:54 BST

Re: [Tagging] Is it man_made=water_tap?

+1 The "tap" is the device to control the flow.  Often, but not necessarily, at the end of the pipe.  If the user cannot control the flow, there is NOT a "tap" present.  Regards,Peter(PeterPan 99) On Wednesday, 28 September 2022 at 08:28:34 BST, Martin Koppenhoefer wr

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

to offer better routes for relevant profiles. If one community does this and creates, publishes and maintains e.g. a specialised map and router for the region, it's worth it. Then other communites will follow. if not, no harm done, the data is still valid and nothing is broken. Peter Elderson >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 20 sep. 2022 om 13:49 heeft martianfreeloader > het volgende geschreven: > > This would mean that there is a new primary tag `highway=scramble` which > makes some currently existing primary tags obsolete: > 1) `highway=via_ferrata` gets replaced by

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

Wouldn't scramble=yes with highway=path do the trick? Hurts nobody, and carries the exact information you want. Peter Elderson > Op 15 sep. 2022 om 23:26 heeft Asa Hundert het > volgende geschreven: > > Am Do., 15. Sept. 2022 um 00:09 Uhr schrieb Peter Elderson >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

, that is a better indication, but it still does not say it's a scramble. Peter Elderson > Op 15 sep. 2022 om 20:53 heeft Janko Mihelić het volgende > geschreven: > >  > čet, 15. ruj 2022. 19:57 Peter Elderson je napisao: >> I know, but the scale does not indicate specific thing

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

could argue a scramble is not a thing, or it is not important enough to warrant special mapping, but complex categories and side attributes do not a scramble make. Peter Elderson Op do 15 sep. 2022 om 18:53 schreef Yves via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > Peter, the sac_scale d

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

he feature as they see fit. Same as e.g. highway=steps. Is it worth the effort? Don't know. Will it render? Don't know, that's up to the renderer. Can people use it for their own map style or application? Yes, if it's clearly and uniquely mapped they can, but will they? Don't know, that's up to th

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

čet, 15. ruj 2022. u 14:52 Peter Elderson napisao > je: > >> Which combination(s) of highway values, sac scale values and hazard >> values would exclusively represent a scramble (Dutch verb: klauteren, i.e. >> going up or down there using hands and feet) to a grown-up, non-c

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

then a cane, hiking shoes and gloves? Peter Elderson > Op 15 sep. 2022 om 14:07 heeft Martin Koppenhoefer > het volgende geschreven: > >  > We are having this discussion despite we already have the necessary tags to > describe all relevant aspects, only because some map

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

. If a sign says a path will make you scamble somewhere, map the sign and the actual scramble(s), that's what I would do. Peter Elderson > Op 14 sep. 2022 om 23:47 heeft martianfreeloader > het volgende geschreven: > > In the real world, you will *always* find borderline ca

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - addr:interpolation on closed ways and nodes

and - is never a range indicator. Error to be expected: people just copying the housenumber plate may use 2-250. When using the explicit addr:range tag, the format error may be detected because .. is missing. Peter Elderson Op do 24 dec. 2020 om 15:12 schreef Paul Allen : > On Thu, 24 Dec 2

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

oft as "pillows"  (Cushions on the sofa; pillows on the bed) https://www.trafficchoices.co.uk/traffic-schemes/speed-cushions.shtml Regards,Peter >Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2020 15:12:14 + >From: Paul Allen >To: 80hnhtv4a...@bk.ru >Cc: "Tag discussion, strategy and relat

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:traffic_calming=hillocky

I'd say they are small mounds. Hillock sounds too, er, hilly. Peter Elderson Op zo 20 dec. 2020 om 11:39 schreef ael via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > > I'm uncomfortable with hillock/hillocky as a value. > > "Hillock" is quite common in British Englis

Re: [Tagging] The saga of landuse=reservoir vs water=reservoir

I'll tag both ways then, or better map none at all? Shirt, another dilemma. I need something stronger than tea. Peter Elderson Op wo 16 dec. 2020 om 17:04 schreef Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > Dec 16, 2020, 16:49 by tomasstrau...@gmail.com: > >

Re: [Tagging] How to put a name tag on an area with more than one type?

stevea : > (Personally, I find JOSM’s relation editor to be one of its most elegant > features for a data structure as relatively complex as a relation. > I am not qualified to judge elegance, but I find JOSM's relation editor the best there is. I don't think relations are very complex data

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - crossing=priority

Colin Smale het volgende geschreven: > >  >> >> On 2020-12-13 21:53, Peter Elderson wrote: >> >> Just to clarify: >> >> > crossing=priority Indicates that the node is a pedestrian crossing >> when applied to highway=cycleway, should

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - crossing=priority

s applied to a cycleway? And with segregated=no, do motorists get a warning that horses may cross on the cycleway? Peter Elderson Op zo 13 dec. 2020 om 21:08 schreef ipswichmapper--- via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > Yes, most likely this won't be required. However I have kept

Re: [Tagging] How to put a name tag on an area with more than one type?

layouts, you would need a different type of relation. Maybe an existing type can be used, or a specialised type can be defined. I would think a pilot project could test the concept for mappers, renderers and other data users. If succesful, showcase. If not, document and delete. Peter Elderson Op

Re: [Tagging] How to put a name tag on an area with more than one type?

Actually, there is no Rijn in Rotterdam. But that does not change the argument. Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 11 dec. 2020 om 18:11 heeft Christoph Hormann het > volgende geschreven: > >  > >> Anders Torger hat am 11.12.2020 17:07 geschrieben: >> >&g

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Hazards

) that they might fall down, or to warn a person on a road or footpath (at the bottom of the cliff) that a person might land on top of them! Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] RFC: vaccination / COVID-19 vaccination centres

ponse" plans. Peter Elderson Op do 26 nov. 2020 om 21:07 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > Am Do., 26. Nov. 2020 um 18:35 Uhr schrieb Peter Elderson < > pelder...@gmail.com>: > >> Well, mass testing did not stop the virus anywhere, it just cos

Re: [Tagging] RFC: vaccination / COVID-19 vaccination centres

facilities will disappear. OSM-forums will carry on the debate whether they should be tagged as historic or abandoned until the next pandemic. Peter Elderson Op do 26 nov. 2020 om 15:59 schreef Paul Allen : > On Thu, 26 Nov 2020 at 02:35, stevea wrote: > >> I'm in California, where

Re: [Tagging] RFC: vaccination / COVID-19 vaccination centres

the yelling at each other. Then it will become a standard yearly vaccination and we will all return to normal. O, the stories we will tell our grandchildren when they really just want to hang out with each other and play games... Best, Peter Elderson Op wo 25 nov. 2020 om 22:33 schreef Paul Allen

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Cycle Route Relations vs. Ways

). I would rate this information: sometimes useful but not very reliable. Technical improvements will not fix this. What the mappers put there could do with improvement. The challenge is how to get the mappers to do it. Peter Elderson Op wo 18 nov. 2020 om 19:09 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Cycle Route Relations vs. Ways

g each one with name=Polygon Alley. No normalization applies, just tag it. Best, Peter Elderson Op ma 16 nov. 2020 om 18:17 schreef Seth Deegan : > Honestly I think I'm just confused. > I guess ways *do have* official names, it's just that I keep on thinking > about the possible *conceptual* co

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate water=pond?

Ah, profiling! Hadn't thought of that yet. Best, Peter Elderson Op vr 13 nov. 2020 om 10:18 schreef Michael Patrick : > > I am surprised nobody has suggested a pondness or lakicity scale yet. >> > > It isn't unusual outside of OSM for relative percentages of the di

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate water=pond?

I am surprised nobody has suggested a pondness or lakicity scale yet. Best, Peter Elderson Op do 12 nov. 2020 om 02:46 schreef stevea : > If we're going to do "this:" > > So perhaps we could create a new tag water=natural_pond for small, > natural or semi-natural lak

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate water=pond?

y"(except where it's not), "in most countries" (but not everywhere) etc etc. I don't think most bodies of water can be tagged as pond or lake by any common standard, in a way that all agree. Nor do I think that is a problem. Best, Peter Elderson Op wo 11 nov. 2020 om 19:51 schreef Bria

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate water=pond?

I am getting a foot vs hiking feeling. Everybody knows a difference, nobody has the same difference. In the end, it does not matter. Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 11 nov. 2020 om 16:02 heeft Brian M. Sperlongano > het volgende geschreven: > >  > If the consensus is to go with

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate water=pond?

finition would not help at all in this case. Peter Elderson > Op 10 nov. 2020 om 06:30 heeft Joseph Eisenberg > het volgende geschreven: > >  > The tag water=pond was added with a large number of other types of "water=*" > in 2011, but it has a poorly defined description.

Re: [Tagging] religous bias - Feature Proposal - Voting - (Chapel of rest)

people do not die on schedule one at a time. Peter Elderson > Op 5 nov. 2020 om 19:56 heeft Joseph Eisenberg > het volgende geschreven: > >  > I'm not able to find any website which clearly talks about a specific > "mourning room", though it is certainly documented th

Re: [Tagging] religous bias - Feature Proposal - Voting - (Chapel of rest)

> rate the following "favourable", "acceptable" or "unfavourable"? > > amenity=mourning > acceptable, though I think an amenity should be a feature, not an activity > amenity=place_of_mourning > favourable. Secondary tags could add details if necessary > amenity=mourning_room >

Re: [Tagging] religious bias - Re: Feature Proposal - Voting - (Chapel of rest)

by objects and decorations, and often actually presumed present. The deceased may also be just represented. Peter Elderson Op wo 4 nov. 2020 om 23:30 schreef Paul Allen : > On Wed, 4 Nov 2020 at 20:50, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > >> I was surprised that this tag is rushed into voting despite t

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Chapel of rest)

woll...@posteo.de: > > Dear all, > > ...someone who has died before their funeral I should hope so > ___ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Parking fee only after some time period

towing_penalty=no means your car is towed away for free? In Nederland, towing always comes with a penalty, even if you don't want your car back. Maybe a tag for consequences should be introduced. I suggest or_else=cargone. Best, Peter Elderson > Op 21 okt. 2020 om 10:32 heeft stevea

Re: [Tagging] Proposal to change key:man_made to key:human_made

Or, let's acknowledge that many distinctions are pointless because an awful lot of primary keys just mean "thing", so the key does not really matter, only the value counts. Who cares what the * in *=bus_stop says, it's a bus stop. Peter Elderson >> Op 19 okt. 2020 om 19

Re: [Tagging] Proposal to change key:man_made to key:human_made

Another illusion shattered... where is this world going to? Best, Peter Elderson > Op 19 okt. 2020 om 13:48 heeft Jo het volgende > geschreven: > >  > It would be best to first consider the consequences of such a change. Weigh > the benefits against what we lose i

Re: [Tagging] Battery swapping spot in a charging station or being an individual tag?

Would that be a new sub-tag or a value of an existing sub-tag? Best, Peter Elderson Op di 6 okt. 2020 om 09:27 schreef Jez Nicholson : > Myself, I would prefer *not* to have a new tag. Swapping a battery is a > form of recharging and can be detailed in a subtag. > > On Tue, 6 Oct 2

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

>often even throw in a free bag :) >>Phil (trigpoint) I suppose it is all a matter of supply and demand (number of horsey people v. number of serious rose-growers)   Somewhere round here I have seen roadside adverts for "Horse Manure - Pick Your Own"!  Not sure whether they provide the bag, or not. Peter ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

Is it private sale? Vr gr Peter Elderson Op za 3 okt. 2020 om 23:37 schreef Graeme Fitzpatrick : > > > > On Sun, 4 Oct 2020 at 00:39, Paul Allen wrote: > >> >> More important is if there is a sign, >> > > Hand-painted signs saying "Horse manure&

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing)

I think for tagging it should be more than the occasional road-side sale? Best, Peter Elderson Op za 3 okt. 2020 om 14:38 schreef Paul Allen : > On Sat, 3 Oct 2020 at 13:22, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> >> shop=* seems ok for me. > > > And for me. There

Re: [Tagging] "width" on streets: Time for a recommendation

What about the many streets and roads where the kerb or lining is bended and curled to cut the parking lane into sections? Best, Peter Elderson Op di 29 sep. 2020 om 11:40 schreef Supaplex : > Now I am a little confused. > > As I understand Pieter, you used "width:carriage

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Large fire perimeter tagging?

Clifford Snow : > I'm not sure there would be a consensus agreement to revise the wiki to > indicate landuse=forest should be used for timber production. Thoughts? > I am sure there would not. landuse=forest just means the area has trees. I think there is some consensus about that.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Chapel of rest)

Funeral viewing room sounds like a room where you can view the funeral. I suspect modern ones have very large screens and nice sound effects. Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 27 sep. 2020 om 19:39 heeft woll...@posteo.de het volgende geschreven: > > "In any case, the proposer seems to fe

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Chapel of rest)

I would suggest respectorium, but I do not want to start a new hype in the funeral branch. Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 25 sep. 2020 om 17:10 heeft woll...@posteo.de het volgende geschreven: > > "Wake rooms" was at one time my favorite, but then I was told that some >

Re: [Tagging] Linking Sidewalks to Highways

Jeroen Hoek : > I have been applying highway=cycleway + cycleway=link as well to see how > this feels. Some early documentation I have been preparing: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:JeroenHoek#cycleway.3Dlink > Why the diagonal link to the center intersection node? Wouldn't it be

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