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sent from a phone > On 25. Oct 2018, at 23:02, ChameleonScales > wrote: > > I am not involved enough in OSM at the moment to engage in other subjects > than the one I started. > Please forward the discussion on the wiki page: >

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I'm just letting you guys know that I will unsubscribe from the mailing list because I get notified too frequently on my phone of new emails and I am not involved enough in OSM at the moment to engage in other subjects than the one I started. Please forward the discussion on the wiki

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On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 9:59 PM ChameleonScales < chameleonsca...@protonmail.com> wrote: > I made some changes again. > I like the way you have a purple rocking horse and describe it as a brown rocking horse. :) It might be an idea either to put up a brown version or to clarify that the

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I made some changes again. Mainly I changed "rental" to "loan" even though loan doesn't exist, because they have a quite different meaning: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rent https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/loan and I changed the age tags to account for a comment in the proposal's discussion

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15. Oct 2018 15:34 by chameleonsca...@protonmail.com : > > So how can I change the url of my proposal to toy_library instead of > toy_and_game_library? I moved the page in

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Thanks but this has already been taken care of in the proposal page. I don't see why you're pointing that out now.___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

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Note that (a) proposed icon is the least important part of any proposal and may be safely skipped (b) if someone really wants to add a proposed icon there is no obligation tofollow colour scheme and size limitations of a specific map style 15. Oct 2018 15:55 by pla16...@gmail.com

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I made some updates. Feedback appreciated.___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

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You made good points. Let's use a brown rocking horse then. So, about my url question, is it doable? ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, October 15, 2018 4:04 PM, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Yes, the software can change the icon color, so if an existing icon shape is > good, we can

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Yes, the software can change the icon color, so if an existing icon shape is good, we can just use that. On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 10:57 PM Paul Allen wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 2:29 PM ChameleonScales < > chameleonsca...@protonmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Also I'd like to upload a proposed svg

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On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 2:29 PM ChameleonScales < chameleonsca...@protonmail.com> wrote: > > Also I'd like to upload a proposed svg icon but apparently I don't have > permission to upload media files on the wiki. > You haven't made enough edits on the wiki for the automated system to consider

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Also I discussed with a senior toy and game library owner and she says "toy library" is better even if it doesn't include "game" because it's a more established name. So how can I change the url of my proposal to toy_library instead of

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Yeah actually I'm still working on it. I'd like them to have tags for whether they can lend or not and what public is targeted (children or all ages). When I travel and look for a board game to rent I don't want to end up in a child care center with no adult games. Also I'd like to upload a

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Am Mo., 15. Okt. 2018 um 12:05 Uhr schrieb Mateusz Konieczny < matkoni...@tutanota.com>: > 13. Oct 2018 02:49 by chameleonsca...@protonmail.com: > > Other than that, is it complete enough to move it from Draft to Proposed? > > > Feel free to do that - there is no real difference between Draft and

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13. Oct 2018 02:49 by chameleonsca...@protonmail.com : > Other than that, is it complete enough to move it from Draft to Proposed? Feel free to do that - there is no real difference between Draft and Proposed ___

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Sure but if anyone has something to say that is directly related to my proposal it would be best to discuss it there. Other than that, is it complete enough to move it from Draft to Proposed? ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, October 12, 2018 3:21 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>

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Took me a while to find it .. to save otehrs time here is a link. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/toy_and_game_library Proposals are usually discussed both here and on their own discussion page. On 11/10/18 20:27, ChameleonScales wrote: I made some updates to the wiki

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On 11/10/18 08:11, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 06:49, Paul Allen > wrote: I'd go with amenity=toy_library and the sub-tags, or maybe not even bother with the sub-tags. Not arguing!, but going back to my question about Family History

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On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 10:13 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 06:49, Paul Allen wrote: > >> >> I'd go with amenity=toy_library and the sub-tags, or maybe not even >> bother with the sub-tags. >> > > Not arguing!, but going back to my question about Family History >

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I made some updates to the wiki proposal and I propose we continue the discussion on its discussion page. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, October 9, 2018 11:23 PM, ChameleonScales wrote: > Hi all, > > Game and toy libraries don't fit in any feature type. > They can be but are not

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Some Fablabs also offer tool lending, although it is much more common to see in place use https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dhackerspace On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 11:42 PM Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > In California, several cities have a community “Tool Library”, a type of > lending

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In California, several cities have a community “Tool Library”, a type of lending “library” where you can check out hand tools and power tools for garden or construction projects. I believe the ones in Portland and Berkeley have no fee, and rely on volunteer labor. On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 6:13 AM

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On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 06:49, Paul Allen wrote: > > I'd go with amenity=toy_library and the sub-tags, or maybe not even bother > with the sub-tags. > Not arguing!, but going back to my question about Family History libraries, I wonder whether a lot of the confusion about "what's in this

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On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 9:37 PM SelfishSeahorse wrote: > AFAIK ludothèques are just called 'toy libraries' in English. > Looks like it. Although I only learned of my local toy library less than a year ago and had no idea such things existed prior to that. I see the French came up with a more

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On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 9:13 PM Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > On 10. Oct 2018, at 20:01, Paul Allen wrote: > > > > The rendering tools > > can be changed to accommodate this but, as I understand it, such changes > may greatly > > increase the processing time to render map tiles whether or not

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Here's the proposal wiki page (I hope I did it correctly): https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/toy_and_game_library I'll polish it tomorrow. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:12 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > sent from a phone > > > On 10.

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sent from a phone > On 10. Oct 2018, at 20:01, Paul Allen wrote: > > The rendering tools > can be changed to accommodate this but, as I understand it, such changes may > greatly > increase the processing time to render map tiles whether or not they contain > a library. not true. It makes

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sent from a phone > On 10. Oct 2018, at 19:11, Marc Gemis wrote: > > When I read the Wikipedia text on the osm wiki, it seems that you can > consider a car rental place as a library. This does not match the definition > of the Dutch word bibliotheek which restricts it to books and . They

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On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 7:10 PM bkil wrote: > > We could decompose the functions of a library as a repository and > rental/lending for books and other media, usually operating on a > monthly subscription model, sometimes sponsored by local authorities. > That would be a sensible way to do it.

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Indeed, the Hungarian word for library ("könyvtár") can be literally translated as "book repository". We could decompose the functions of a library as a repository and rental/lending for books and other media, usually operating on a monthly subscription model, sometimes sponsored by local

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On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 6:12 PM Marc Gemis wrote: > Yes, that is the process that you should follow. Please keep in mind the > it is easier to introduce a new tag than to redefine one. Requiring that > all current amenity=library have to be updated with a subtags library= book > will likely

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Yes, that is the process that you should follow. Please keep in mind the it is easier to introduce a new tag than to redefine one. Requiring that all current amenity=library have to be updated with a subtags library= book will likely get some comments. When I read the Wikipedia text on the osm

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Just found out about the proposal process: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process. Should I create a wiki page and follow the steps there? ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 4:24 PM, ChameleonScales wrote: > > --- You only send this to me (probably

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> --- You only send this to me (probably by accident). --- Indeed, fixed. > we do not want data consumers that does not understand the library-subkey to > treat a toys_and_games as a book-library. That's partly why I proposed to rewrite the definition of the library tag and make it

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--- You only send this to me (probably by accident). --- AFAIK, we do not use a colon in the values. If you want to indicate a subcategory, it goes in a subkey. so amenity=library;library=toys_and_games But in this case we do not want data consumers that does not understand the library-subkey

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> 2: Having been a toy & game librarian, I can say that these establishments > are already suffering the misconception that they are only there for > children, so reducing their name to "toy libraries" would hardly make it > better. If we used french language there would be nothing to argue

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Thanks for your response. I have 2 problems with this: 1: Although the OSM wiki [acknowledged](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=library) the broadness of the word "library" according to Wikipedia, it still focused [the tag

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On 10/10/18 09:47, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 08:04, Paul Allen > wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:24 PM ChameleonScales mailto:chameleonsca...@protonmail.com>> wrote: amenity:library=game_and_toy When I added one of

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sent from a phone > On 10. Oct 2018, at 00:03, Paul Allen wrote: > > When I added one of these, five months ago, the most popular way of doing it > was > amenity=toy_library, so that's what I went with. +1, kiss Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging

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On Wed, 10 Oct 2018 at 08:04, Paul Allen wrote: > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:24 PM ChameleonScales < > chameleonsca...@protonmail.com> wrote: > > amenity:library=game_and_toy >> > > When I added one of these, five months ago, the most popular way of doing > it was > amenity=toy_library, so that's

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On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 10:24 PM ChameleonScales < chameleonsca...@protonmail.com> wrote: amenity:library=game_and_toy > When I added one of these, five months ago, the most popular way of doing it was amenity=toy_library, so that's what I went with. -- Paul

[Tagging] Game and toy library

Hi all, Game and toy libraries don't fit in any feature type. They can be but are not necessarily: - non-profit organizations - child care facilities - social faciilties - toy stores - libraries - probably other things So I think they should have their own feature type and tag. How about