Dear community, WTF?
admin_level on place nodes surely duplicates admin_level tag value
from one of relations which contain that node, but is that a bad
thing?
Did you try to calculate admin_level for a place in osm2pgsql
database? I've spent two hours now trying to construct and optimize an
SQL
Sorry, two facts that I forgot to check before sending the last mail.
1. There are 63762 place nodes with an admin_level in the database,
and ~330k other nodes with this tag. I guess it's too late to forbid
using the tag on nodes.
2. It's Berlin that was edited, not London:
2014-05-13 14:20 GMT+02:00 Ilya Zverev zve...@textual.ru:
admin_level on place nodes surely duplicates admin_level tag value
from one of relations which contain that node, but is that a bad
thing?
Did you try to calculate admin_level for a place in osm2pgsql
database? I've spent two hours
Martin Koppenhoefer:
admin_level has no real definition in the wiki what it is supposed to
express: the key link redirects to boundary=administrative:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:admin_level#admin_level
...
Now there is also a key capital that can tell the administrative
2014-05-13 15:02 GMT+02:00 Ilya Zverev zve...@textual.ru:
First, this discussion it seemed was about removing admin_level tags,
and not straightening up the tagging schema. I posted my reply because
I had seen the tag removed from Berlin, not replaced by another. Left
there is capital=yes
I surely could remove the warning I've added to the wiki, but please
first consider that, from the ~33 nodes with a place=* tag that
you mentioned, only 63762 (19%) are combined with an admin_level tag.
I've mentioned [1] many of important cities (in fact, secondary,
tertiary cities, right
Hi Martin, I was the one that marked the proposal for the key capital as
cancelled (maybe abandoned was a better status).
I did this because I saw it's use was a complete mess in tag info, and as
far as I knew, admin_centre had the same purpose, so I just wanted to help
to clean the wiki from it's
2014-05-13 16:54 GMT+02:00 John Packer john.pack...@gmail.com:
Hi Martin, I was the one that marked the proposal for the key capital as
cancelled (maybe abandoned was a better status).
I did this because I saw it's use was a complete mess in tag info, and as
far as I knew, admin_centre had
Hm, what does capital=8 mean? I've only seen the value capital=yes so far.
It could be the result of a bad import.
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-05-13 16:54 GMT+02:00 John Packer john.pack...@gmail.com:
Hi Martin, I was the one that
2014-05-13 17:25 GMT+02:00 Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com:
Hm, what does capital=8 mean? I've only seen the value capital=yes so far.
It could be the result of a bad import.
it generally means capital (or admin_centre) of an admin_level=8 entity.
cheers,
Martin
Following from the previous discussion
(https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2014-May/017515.html),
it seems clear we would all like to know how these tags are being
employed in each other's country. So if you know how it's being done
in yours, or if you can try figuring it out,
2014-05-13 17:24 GMT+02:00 John Packer john.pack...@gmail.com:
I still think it's needed to create a proper page for this key.
I find it hard to see a proposal page with such a long discussion as some
kind of standard.
I agree that the docu could be better here, and it would certainly be a
None of them have admin_level=* tags. should have been None of them
have admin_level=* tags on the nodes, only in relations.
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Fernando Trebien
fernando.treb...@gmail.com wrote:
Following from the previous discussion
I really don't think this is considered a standard tag by most people.
In taginfo we can find keys like capital_city, capital_level, is_capital,
state_capital, capital.
As far as I saw, each key is concentrated on some parts of the globe.
It certainly is not a fact that it is standard.
I had
More information:
All 48 nodes with capital=10 have admin_level=10
19 nodes out of 122 with capital=7 also have admin_level=7
21 nodes out of 331 with capital=6 also have admin_level=6 (this one came
from that Spain import)
94 nodes out of 427 with capital=4 also have admin_level=4
182 nodes out
Dear all,
How would you map these structures often used in tunnels to prevent
drivers/train conductors from being blinded by the sun? Check pics:
[1http://www.destakjornal.com.br/sistema/noticias/150667/capa/4166836.jpg
]
First, I'd rather tag it as building=roof, but even that might not be
enough because it's not built to be a roof. If the only function is sun
blocking, maybe some long name like building=tunnel_exit_sun_block.
Janko
2014-05-13 20:06 GMT+02:00 Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com
:
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote:
First, I'd rather tag it as building=roof, but even that might not be enough
because it's not built to be a roof. If the only function is sun blocking,
maybe some long name like building=tunnel_exit_sun_block.
Am 13/mag/2014 um 20:30 schrieb Nelson A. de Oliveira nao...@gmail.com:
building=shade seems better
this could be a idea if you map the structure itself, or maybe
building=shading_structure
you can also split the highway and add an attribute like shaded=yes
or shading_structure=yes or
Am 13/mag/2014 um 19:06 schrieb John Packer john.pack...@gmail.com:
It certainly is not a fact that it is standard.
maybe you have to look how capitals are tagged and which of these tags are
there for a long time, to be convinced? Are you aware that this key is in
default.style?
cheers,
Please explain why admin_level on place nodes harms the database, or
refrain from removing it. Thanks.
I actually put it back in Berlin after I took a 2nd closer look at
Germany. Which then actually revealed that all our state capitals are
tagged with admin_level=6 when they should be 4 as
Applications could avoid that mess if they supported and preferred the
admin_centre role of relations. For a long time I believed that the
only practical reason for placing capital=yes or state_capital=yes
on a node was to help the renderer decide how to render the label; the
renderer could then
Am 5/14/14 04:51 , schrieb Fernando Trebien:
For a long time I believed that the
only practical reason for placing capital=yes or state_capital=yes
on a node was to help the renderer decide how to render the label;
And what happens when go to admin_level=4?
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In Brazil, admin_level=4 is state level, so it would be
state_capital=yes. I've never really thought about it in depth because
Brazil only has 2 administrative levels with a capital city and the
country only has 1 capital. This is how it looks like in Brazil now:
1. Node tagged as
On Wed, 14 May 2014 05:13:20 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Am 13/mag/2014 um 20:30 schrieb Nelson A. de Oliveira
nao...@gmail.com:
building=shade seems better
this could be a idea if you map the structure itself, or maybe
building=shading_structure
you can also split the highway and
Am 5/13/14 17:40 , schrieb Fernando Trebien:
So if you know how it's being done
in yours, or if you can try figuring it out, please take a minute to
describe it here briefly.
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/state_capital#map
Pretty much answers that for state_capital=. Outside North
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