Re: [Tagging] Stop sign?

On Wednesday 2012-11-21 08:50 +, Kytömaa Lauri wrote: > >Can we start using relations for this already? Really seems like that > >provides the specifics we want for this. > > So far nobody has provided a real world example of a place where the simple > distance-to-next would not be correct.

Re: [Tagging] piste:type=nordic but without underlying track

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Michael S wrote: > I think tagging areas with piste:type is more for downhill piste. Interesting - according to the wiki (key:piste:type): piste:type=nordic (way only, not area) A nordic/cross country ski trail (also see #Style or kind of grooming). The direction

Re: [Tagging] Stop sign?

"A.Pirard.Papou" wrote: > On 2012-11-23 20:03, Philip Barnes wrote : > > Again in most of Western Europe, not the UK, a system giving > priority > > to traffic from the right exists so many minor junctions have no > road > > markings but the priority to the right rule exists. My experience > is

Re: [Tagging] Stop sign?

On 2012-11-23 20:03, Philip Barnes wrote : Again in most of Western Europe, not the UK, a system giving priority to traffic from the right exists so many minor junctions have no road markings but the priority to the right rule exists. My experience is, I have no problem giving way but taking it

Re: [Tagging] agglomération

On 2012-11-23 22:58, Lauri wrote : The idea is that with a 30 driving rules list applying to an agglomération If it's just the traffic rules urban vs. rural, there's the tag (with 37 000+ uses) zone:traffic=**:rural zone:traffic=**:urban where ** is the two letter country code. Regarding the

Re: [Tagging] agglomération

I'm a bit unhappy with the term urban instead of built-up or city_limit/city_limits. But it's better than source:maxspeed=city_limits, so I'll start using it. Hopefully it gets out of the proposed state one day, it was proposed in 2009 Jo 2012/11/23 Kytömaa Lauri > >The idea is that with

Re: [Tagging] piste:type=nordic but without underlying track

> sounds like they would tag the whole meadow area. I think tagging areas with piste:type is more for downhill piste. Michael ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Zones 30 in Belgium (from [OSM-talk-be] )

On 2012-11-23 19:48, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote : 2012/11/21 A.Pirard.Papou > Is the error having no speed limit or having a dummy node showing there should be a limit? For maxspeed you could either a) tag a sign position (on a node) to show: here starts

Re: [Tagging] agglomération

>The idea is that with a 30 driving rules list applying to an agglomération If it's just the traffic rules urban vs. rural, there's the tag (with 37 000+ uses) zone:traffic=**:rural zone:traffic=**:urban where ** is the two letter country code. Don't count on anything ever deriving the rules (

Re: [Tagging] Stop sign?

On 11/23/12 3:13 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: North America is starting to see this more, too. There's noticeably greater number of roundabouts and posted all-way yields in recent years. Mini roundabouts are so rare they're not mentioned in the laws anywhere stateside from what I can tell there's

Re: [Tagging] Stop sign?

On Nov 23, 2012 1:04 PM, "Philip Barnes" wrote: > The 'all way stop' is I think unique to North America, it does not exist > in the UK and as far as I know does not exist in Europe. From my > experience of driving in North America, the 'all way stop' is used in > place where in Europe, and parti

Re: [Tagging] Stop sign?

On Fri, 2012-11-23 at 12:14 -0600, John F. Eldredge wrote: > In the USA, all-way stop signs are used at intersections where all of > the roads in question have equal priority, and the expected traffic > volume is small enough that you won't have a large backlog of traffic > waiting to go through.

Re: [Tagging] agglomération

What I'm doing right now is tag the roads inside this zone with maxspeed=50 and source:maxspeed=city_limit. This doesn't fit entirely, as it doesn't only influence maxspeed. Maybe adding a tag city_limit=yes would be more appropriate? Besides there is a conflict when inside those city limits the

Re: [Tagging] Zones 30 in Belgium (from [OSM-talk-be] )

2012/11/21 A.Pirard.Papou > Is the error having no speed limit or having a dummy node showing there > should be a limit? > > For maxspeed you could either a) tag a sign position (on a node) to show: here starts (or continues) the speed limit. b) and (more important) you should tag the speed lim

Re: [Tagging] Stop sign?

In Belgium on such intersections it's always the traffic coming from the right that has right of way. There is almost never an obligation to make a full stop at such intersections. The stop sign is used on intersections where visibility is limited and one (pair of) road(s) is considered less impor

Re: [Tagging] Stop sign?

Jo wrote: > I (would) do this mostly for consistency. I have to admit I never HAD > to do > it, most stop signs in Belgium are used for their intended purpose: > give > priority to the main road, not inhibit all traffic arriving at an > intersection. > > A node on the way approaching a main road

Re: [Tagging] agglomération

On 2012-11-22 16:57, Simone Saviolo wrote : 2012/11/21 A.Pirard.Papou > Hi, I wanted to map the agglomeration of my village and I am wondering again. [...] How do we tag agglomérations? Currently, with place=* and their relative info on a clos

Re: [Tagging] fire district boundaries

2012/11/22 Colin Smale : > I wouldn't use boundary=admin with admin_level unless there is actually a > hierarchical relationship with the levels above/below. Otherwise they > should really be in their own hierarchy, using something like > boundary=fire_service. +1 cheers, Martin ___

Re: [Tagging] Escape_lane - Approved

On vendredi 23 novembre 2012, José Juan Sánchez del Arco wrote: > > Okay, as the proposed feature highway=escape has been approved, now it is > time for clean_up. I have completely no idea how to do it, so... can anyone > do that for me?? > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/es

Re: [Tagging] R: agglom?ration

2012/11/21 Alberto : >>How do we tag agglom?rations? > > What's about the proposal for urban settlements? > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Urban_settlements I'd got for place. Place IS the tag for human settlements and also for parts of them (e.g. suburb, neighbourhood) che

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] Zones 30 in Belgium (from )

2012/11/22 A.Pirard.Papou > On the other hand it would be possible to join them to the ways, since > the ways need to be split anyway as the maxspeed changes there. > > Ouch. They are POIs, so, often near the middle of the way, probably at a > school door. > The best you could do is extend them

[Tagging] Escape_lane - Approved

Okay, as the proposed feature highway=escape has been approved, now it is time for clean_up. I have completely no idea how to do it, so... can anyone do that for me?? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/escape_lane Thank you very much :)

Re: [Tagging] Border crossing with restrictions

2012/11/23 Martin Koppenhoefer > > Maybe access=residents? > Access=residents is a bit too general, but that's exactly how signs in Croatia look: "No access except residents". (Then I say, "well I'm a resident" and laugh to myself). at least we shouldn't put wrong restrictions on purpose, becau

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

Frederik Ramm wrote: > I have a suspicion that this duplication of tags is largely the > result of OpenSeaMap trying to opt out of the rest of the > community - "if we use our own namespace then we don't > have to discuss with those landlubbers". We have not > bothered much about that as long a

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

Does something qualify as a seamark if it is visible from the sea? Maybe a "visible_from_sea=yes" is enough? Janko ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Border crossing with restrictions

2012/11/23 Janko Mihelić : > 2012/11/22 Paul Johnson >> On Thursday, November 22, 2012, Volker Schmidt wrote: >>> >>> Any suggestions or precedents on how to map such restrictions. >>> This argument is obviously also important for routing. > > > For a start, I suggest access=no. People who can cro

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

Hi, On 11/23/2012 11:48 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: We have bothered much about that as long as OpenSeaMap tagged offshore haven't Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___ Tagging mailing list Taggi

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

Hi, On 11/23/2012 11:24 AM, Pieren wrote: As I said, a simple landmark tag is enough. It does not need to specifiy again it is a cemetery when we can combine it with already existing OSM tags (like the "landuse=cemetery"). The tag can be "seamark = landmark" or "seamark:type=landmark", I don't c

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

On 23/11/2012 10:24, Pieren wrote: "landuse=cemetery" + "landmark=cemetery" + "seamark=landmark" + "seamark:type=landmark" + "seamark:landmark:category = cemetery" As I said, those latter two tags would only appear on cemeteries that can be seen from the water and can be used as navigational m

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

Pieren wrote: > If nobody is interested by the subject I'm interested and I agree that the "OpenSeaMap tagging scheme" needs to be brought more in line with standard OSM practice. Marine features don't begin at the coast; many harbour/port areas are used by both sea-going and inland boats. Theref

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Malcolm Herring wrote: > This is additional information, not duplicate information, so they may well > co-exist with the conventional OSM tags for whatever type of map feature the > object is. If you call: "landuse=cemetery" + "landmark=cemetery" + "seamark=land

Re: [Tagging] Clean-up the seamark landmark tags on the wiki (and perhaps later in the db)

Any tag whose key is in the form "seamark:" is from the OpenSeaMap tagging scheme. Landmarks that bear these tags are features that can be seen from the sea or river and can be usefully used for navigational purposes. This is additional information, not duplicate information, so they may we

Re: [Tagging] Border crossing with restrictions

2012/11/22 Paul Johnson > > > On Thursday, November 22, 2012, Volker Schmidt wrote: > >> Any suggestions or precedents on how to map such restrictions. >> This argument is obviously also important for routing. >> > For a start, I suggest access=no. People who can cross the border usualy know it,