Re: [Tagging] Historic tower

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 11:54 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > But perhaps it would be more universal to have > > built_date=1200 AD > I always thought start_date was used for that. regards m ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.or

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

Additions to that page, I'd think, should be proposed separately. - The utility undergrounding RFC proposes tagging for a similar "regional default value". http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Quickly_Marking_Utility_Wires Eventually the tools will catch up :-) But that case is si

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > I don't object, but it would be nice if there was a way to say a city or > county was non-smoking in certain types of establishments by default, in > addition to tagging each one as smoking=no. > I agree. Since OSM is a geographical databa

Re: [Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 17:54 -0700, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > Any objection to moving: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Smoking > because it is heavily used and obviously well established. I don't object, but it would be nice if there was a way to say a city or county was non-smo

[Tagging] Proposal : Move "smoking" tag to active status

Any objection to moving: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Smoking because it is heavily used and obviously well established. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Accepted or rejected?

On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 18:23 +0100, Peter Wendorff wrote: > ... sensible stuff about off line work... > In an ideal world we would have one discussion platform that can be used > by a mail client as well as by a web forum software. I don't know if > anything like that exists, but basically it's the

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

Dave, to clarify. You use the term 'RV' as meaning a MotorHome, accommodation built on a truck chassis, and excluding things towed behind a car, SUV or 4x4 ? Here, we use RV to mean Motorhome, caravan, camper. Sometimes even broader. David On Sat, 2015-03-21 at 06:34 +0700, Dave Swarthout wrote:

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

On Fri, 2015-03-20 at 21:59 +0100, Jan van Bekkum wrote: > I have updated the proposal with the feedback as much as possible. > And looking good too ! Under "Tagging", item 7, typo, you have "of few" where you mean "or few". Under "Rendering". 1. Blue Tent for Commercial ? Its more caravans h

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

I like the idea behind this proposal overall but feel some clarifications are needed. In the first section: Designated means set aside for the purpose of camping, so that part is fine. But then you say: 2. Designated campground (camp_site

Re: [Tagging] Historic tower

On 21/03/2015 6:24 AM, André Pirard wrote: On 2015-03-20 18:15, Volker Schmidt wrote : On 20 March 2015 at 17:48, André Pirard > wrote: historic=1200 (for precise minds) This use of the "historic" tag is new to me. Where is it defined? You can use

[Tagging] Loomio evaluation

Dear all, In an attempt to find a better tool for our proposal discussions, Loomio has been mentioned. At the very first glance it looks like a feasible alternative to the mailing list and the forum. Let's take a look together: https://www.loomio.org/g/tknueHrw/osm-tagging And let me know if you

Re: [Tagging] List v Forum - was Accepted or rejected?

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Dan S wrote: > 2015-03-20 11:50 GMT+00:00 althio : > > Maybe it was Loomio? > > That was it! Thanks Shall we take a look at it all together? https://www.loomio.org/g/tknueHrw/osm-tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Ta

Re: [Tagging] Tagging established, unofficial and wild campings

I have updated the proposal with the feedback as much as possible. Met vriendelijke groet/with kind regards, *Jan van Bekkum* www.DeEinderVoorbij.nl On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 1:55 PM, John Willis wrote: > > I understand the ris

Re: [Tagging] Historic tower

On 2015-03-20 18:15, Volker Schmidt wrote : On 20 March 2015 at 17:48, André Pirard wrote: historic=1200 (for precise minds)

Re: [Tagging] Accepted or rejected?

Hi, to mention a major drawback of a forum IMHO: I can read a mailinglist offline. Fetch mails to my notebook once, read and answer while being offline and sending mails from outgoing folder as one batch late when online again. With a forum I would have to open any unread thread beforehand, write

Re: [Tagging] Historic tower

On 20 March 2015 at 17:48, André Pirard wrote: > > historic=1200 (for precise minds) > > This use of the "historic" tag is new to me. Where is it defined? Volker ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/lis

Re: [Tagging] Historic tower

On 2015-03-19 21:15, Jaume Figueras i Jové wrote : Hi, I can't find in the wiki how to correctly tag an historical tower, usually used as a defensive building. In that place there has never been a castle nor was part of a castle. You can find imag

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - power_supply:schedule

The set voting period is over. The proposal collected 7 approval votes, and 2 oppose votes (one without comment). I have extended the voting period for another week. Regards, Jan On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:15 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 16/03/2015 9:41 AM, David Bannon wrote: >

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

On 20/03/2015 12:18, Jan van Bekkum wrote: There is a similar confusion for kerosine (US), paraffine (UK), petroleum (NL); it all the same liquid. (for the avoidance of doubt) the normal UK spelling is "Paraffin". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraffin sums up the confusion nicely. If you go

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

1. *kerosene*, also spelled kerosine, also called *paraffin* or *paraffin* oil, flammable hydrocarbon liquid commonly used as a fuel. *Kerosene* is typically pale yellow or colourless and has a not-unpleasant characteristic odour.Jan 22, 2015 On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:38 PM John Willi

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 20, 2015, at 9:18 PM, Jan van Bekkum wrote: > > There is a similar confusion for kerosine (US), paraffine (UK), petroleum > (NL); it all the same liquid Yikes! Paraffin is a wax, and petroleum is just a fancy word for oil in general. I think Kerosene is the win

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

There is a similar confusion for kerosine (US), paraffine (UK), petroleum (NL); it all the same liquid. On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 12:29 PM johnw wrote: > On Mar 20, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 20/03/2015 6:20 PM, John Willis wrote: > > > I haven't had a chance to

Re: [Tagging] Historic tower

> Am 19.03.2015 um 21:15 schrieb Jaume Figueras i Jové > : > > I'm thinking to use man_made=tower historic=yes, but IMHO I think it's more > correct to use historic=tower (that does not appear in the wiki). I'm using all these tags together, historic=tower and man_made=tower and if it's a

Re: [Tagging] List v Forum - was Accepted or rejected?

2015-03-20 11:50 GMT+00:00 althio : > >> >> I use Stack Exchange a lot and it's great, very well designed for its >> >> purpose. BUT Stack Exchange is not designed for community decision >> >> making. There are tools/forums that are actually designed for that >> >> purpose. > >> > 1) Can you point

Re: [Tagging] List v Forum - was Accepted or rejected?

> >> I use Stack Exchange a lot and it's great, very well designed for its > >> purpose. BUT Stack Exchange is not designed for community decision > >> making. There are tools/forums that are actually designed for that > >> purpose. > > 1) Can you point in the direction of the tools you mean ("des

Re: [Tagging] List v Forum - was Accepted or rejected?

2015-03-19 23:42 GMT+01:00 Kotya Karapetyan : > Can you point in the direction of the tools you mean ("designed for that > purpose")? Do you know a good one? there is "liquid feedback" http://liquidfeedback.org/ but I'm not sure its "decision making" what we want (because osm is not an authorit

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

> On Mar 20, 2015, at 6:19 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 20/03/2015 6:20 PM, John Willis wrote: >> >> I haven't had a chance to read up on how to define the fuel type. >> >> I imagine there is various heating oils, propane and kerosene, LNG, coal, >> wood, different grades of

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

2015-03-19 22:46 GMT+01:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > I've come across regular filling stations without a roof. +1, in Italy you can find lots of them (in the city there are much more of these than "roofed" ones). Also don't seem to have oil traps in many occasions (not completely sure on

Re: [Tagging] Separating usage docs from design docs (was: Increasing voting participation)

2015-03-18 23:30 GMT+01:00 moltonel 3x Combo : > Tempting, but I don't think it'll fly, for a few reasons: > * We've got a huge backlog of frequently-used non-documented keys to > work through : > http://taginfo.osm.org/reports/frequently_used_keys_without_wiki_page > Many of them do appear in

Re: [Tagging] Separating usage docs from design docs (was: Increasing voting participation)

I'm not sure whether lowering the bar for the introduction of new tags (even more, as it is altready quite low) is really helpful. Once a tag is there it is hard to change its meaning. Some of the trouble that we face currently stems from tag and key pages that have been written without following t

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

On 20/03/2015 5:01 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote: I was gonna say we should probably consider adding subtags for bottled gas like propane and butane so that shop=gas might eventually be subsumed by a new overall shop=fuel. By the way, firewood is a fuel and could conceivably fit in here too. I would

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

On 20/03/2015 5:08 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Dave Swarthout mailto:daveswarth...@gmail.com>> wrote: Obviously many mappers aren't reading the Wiki and use whatever tag sounds right to them. Makes what we're discussing here seem like a waste of energy

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

On 20/03/2015 6:20 PM, John Willis wrote: I haven't had a chance to read up on how to define the fuel type. I imagine there is various heating oils, propane and kerosene, LNG, coal, wood, different grades of gas, diesel, aviation fuel, jet fuel, etc - even "farm gas" which has different taxes

Re: [Tagging] List v Forum - was Accepted or rejected?

2015-03-19 22:42 GMT+00:00 Kotya Karapetyan : > On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 11:28 PM, Dan S wrote: >> >> I use Stack Exchange a lot and it's great, very well designed for its >> purpose. BUT Stack Exchange is not designed for community decision >> making. There are tools/forums that are actually desig

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 12:20 AM, John Willis wrote: > > I haven't had a chance to read up on how to define the fuel type. > I imagine there is various heating oils, propane and kerosene, LNG, coal, > wood, different grades of gas, diesel, aviation fuel, jet fuel, etc - even > "farm gas" which has

Re: [Tagging] Fuel shops

I haven't had a chance to read up on how to define the fuel type. I imagine there is various heating oils, propane and kerosene, LNG, coal, wood, different grades of gas, diesel, aviation fuel, jet fuel, etc - even "farm gas" which has different taxes. How can those be defined - esp if a sho