Re: [Tagging] Tagging fraction house numbers?

2018-03-12 Thread Johnparis
I think Google, at least, is aware of it and made a decision not to use the ½. In another project, I gained some experience with their mapping API, and the lack of ½ (and bis, etc.) caused some headaches when trying to geocode addresses. For your example, trying to resolve 40½ Rue de Carillon give

Re: [Tagging] Tagging request: missing admin_level tags

2018-03-12 Thread Yuri Astrakhan
Paul Norman wrote OSMBorder about a year ago to help with the border drawing. It generates a pgsql table with line strings (not polygons), each way having the lowest value for the "admin level". So if a way belongs to both a country and a city border, the tabl

Re: [Tagging] Rubberised playground surface

2018-03-12 Thread Warin
On 3/13/2018 7:51 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: What is being tagged is the"softfall" function. There are various products that provide this feature. In a playground it is a safety feature, outside a pubs basement access it is a

Re: [Tagging] Rubberised playground surface

2018-03-12 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 4:37 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > What is being tagged is the"softfall" function. > > There are various products that provide this feature. > > In a playground it is a safety feature, outside a pubs basement access it is > a feature that reduces the possibility

Re: [Tagging] Tagging fraction house numbers?

2018-03-12 Thread James
https://www.google.ca/maps/place/40+Rue+de+Carillon,+ Gatineau,+QC+J8X+2N7/@45.4286021,-75.7232533,19z/data=! 4m2!3m1!1s0x4cce048bb61faba1:0x6e537799a3a8fb18 Google just removes the ½ and only resolves the 40. Same with bing: https://binged.it/2FAlwVK Same with Here maps: https://wego.here.com/c

Re: [Tagging] Rubberised playground surface

2018-03-12 Thread Warin
What is being tagged is the"softfall" function. There are various products that provide this feature. In a playground it is a safety feature, outside a pubs basement access it is a feature that reduces the possibility of damage to kegs. surface:function=softfall ??? On 3/13/2018 7:26 AM, T

Re: [Tagging] Rubberised playground surface

2018-03-12 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 12.03.2018 14:13, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 12.03.2018 13:03, Andy Mabbett wrote: Suggestions, please, for tagging the surface underneath playground items like swings and slides, which is made of a soft, rubber-like material. I've used surface=rubber, for now, but that's not really accurate.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging fraction house numbers?

2018-03-12 Thread Michał Brzozowski
I'd look how other map providers solved this. On a side note, why I've never see such phrase on this list? We'd figure out many problems by looking how others do things. There's nothing wrong with it. Michał On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 8:06 PM, Brad Neuhauser wrote: > I found it hard to pull out u

Re: [Tagging] Tagging fraction house numbers?

2018-03-12 Thread Brad Neuhauser
I found it hard to pull out usage of "1/2" through taginfo, but was able to search for usage of the UTF-8 version (½): https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=%C2%BD#values It's used very few times (~200) and many are by the same user, which seems like more argument against using UTF-8. On Mon,

Re: [Tagging] Tagging fraction house numbers?

2018-03-12 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 2:23 PM, wrote: > Actually, that can easily happen if you have 1½ but some software wants to > convert it to simple ASCII and doesn't add a space between the 1 and 1/2 when > converting the ½. While if the original text already is "1 1/2" this doesn't > happen. > > Obvi

Re: [Tagging] Tagging fraction house numbers?

2018-03-12 Thread osm.tagging
Actually, that can easily happen if you have 1½ but some software wants to convert it to simple ASCII and doesn't add a space between the 1 and 1/2 when converting the ½. While if the original text already is "1 1/2" this doesn't happen. Obviously, in a perfect world, where everything is Unicod

Re: [Tagging] How to tag sports halls?

2018-03-12 Thread Hufkratzer
I thought in OSM we do not map temporary things like people playing something in sports halls (use of sports halls) but only verifiable things like the permanent equipment that allows them to do it. But anyway it is probably better to document the leisure=sports_hall tag. So I have begun to pre

Re: [Tagging] Tagging fraction house numbers?

2018-03-12 Thread Andrew Hain
Unicode fractions have an important advantage: they can’t run into a previous number, 1½ rather than 11/2. -- Andrew From: James Sent: 12 March 2018 15:43:33 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: [Tagging] Tagging fraction house numbers

Re: [Tagging] Campaniles tagging

2018-03-12 Thread Dave F
Shouldn't these be tagged as a subset of bell_tower? On 12/03/2018 06:54, Tomasz Wójcik wrote: Currently there are 2 tags for campaniles, which has no difference between each other: * man_made=tower + tower:type=campanile * man_made=campanile I think we should move "man_made=campanile" to "

Re: [Tagging] Tagging fraction house numbers?

2018-03-12 Thread James
so far the fractions I've seen are ½ and ¾ and ¼. On phones it's very easy to input fraction in unicode(press and hold the numerical value of the numerator: 1 for ½, ¼ or 2 for ⅔), but I agree that dealing with Bom of UTF-8 usually ends up being messed up and is why I'm asking what the norm for OSM

Re: [Tagging] Tagging fraction house numbers?

2018-03-12 Thread José G Moya Y .
Here in Spain it is more usual 40 bis, 40 dup, 40-2, 40b/c/d... but seeing this scheme I understand the "platform 8 1/2" in Harry Potter. I would tag address number without special chars. I don't know wich set of ascii does the government use in your country. In mine, the abbreviation for "street"

Re: [Tagging] Tagging fraction house numbers?

2018-03-12 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi James, Am 2018-03-12 um 16:43 schrieb James: > https://i.imgur.com/eigT5hX_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium > > How should this be tagged in housenumber? Using unicode ( ½ ) or ASCII( 1/2 > )? Augsburg (Germany) has such house numbers. They use ASCII representation. Best regard

Re: [Tagging] Rubberised playground surface

2018-03-12 Thread osm.tagging
After googling a bit, the term I see most often is either "wet pour rubber" or "softfall rubber". > -Original Message- > From: Toby Murray > Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2018 01:55 > To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Rubberised playground surface > >

Re: [Tagging] Tagging fraction house numbers?

2018-03-12 Thread Vladimír Slávik
Technical: Unicode will be hard to manipulate by hand without a table of characters/symbols to copy from. Subsequent editors or users down the chain of tools will break it. Most prominently, search may break, because users will not know how to input 1/2. (Oh look, I just didn't, either...). Is i

Re: [Tagging] Rubberised playground surface

2018-03-12 Thread Toby Murray
I think I may have used surface=tartan before but I am not sure this is actually correct. While they are both rubberized surfaces, I think tartan is much firmer since its purpose is to facilitate traction, not avoiding injury from falls. Toby On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 8:13 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:

[Tagging] Tagging fraction house numbers?

2018-03-12 Thread James
https://i.imgur.com/eigT5hX_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium How should this be tagged in housenumber? Using unicode ( ½ ) or ASCII( 1/2 )? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Campaniles tagging

2018-03-12 Thread José G Moya Y .
I think I send a message in the past about how to tag a Carillon that is not a man_made=tower (Carillon in the wall of a building). I think I finally put it in the tourist_attraction category. El 12/3/2018 10:55, "Max" escribió: > Related information: What type of bell is in there? > Just one, o

Re: [Tagging] Tagging request: missing admin_level tags

2018-03-12 Thread Dave F
Yes, but again, irrelevant to this thread. On 12/03/2018 13:44, Jo wrote: Except of course, when the boundary is disputed, then there might be overlap and possibly even holes of no man's land? Polyglot 2018-03-12 13:41 GMT+01:00 Dave F >: OK, I unders

Re: [Tagging] Tagging request: missing admin_level tags

2018-03-12 Thread Jo
Except of course, when the boundary is disputed, then there might be overlap and possibly even holes of no man's land? Polyglot 2018-03-12 13:41 GMT+01:00 Dave F : > OK, I understand what you're trying to highlight, but don't see it as > relevant to this thread. > But anyway, the "boundary betwe

Re: [Tagging] Rubberised playground surface

2018-03-12 Thread Bryan Housel
Yes, it is typical for the long tail of tag values to be misspellings or variations in capitalization or dashes vs. underscores. For each of these, there are fewer than 10 values worldwide - not really alarming. I think people clean them up sometimes. Anyway, you find all kinds of interesting s

Re: [Tagging] Rubberised playground surface

2018-03-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
"On 12 March 2018 at 13:02, Bryan Housel wrote: > Searching https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/surface#values for “rubber” > turns up a few alternatives > rubber 258 > rubbercrumb 170 > Rubber 7 > rubberized 6 > recycled_rubber 6 > rubber_mulch 4 > rubber_crumb 3 > rubber_grass 3 Whatever th

Re: [Tagging] Rubberised playground surface

2018-03-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 12 March 2018 at 12:53, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > On 12.03.2018 13:03, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> Suggestions, please, for tagging the surface underneath playground >> items like swings and slides, which is made of a soft, rubber-like >> material. >> >> I've used surface=rubber, for now, but that's not

Re: [Tagging] Rubberised playground surface

2018-03-12 Thread Bryan Housel
Searching https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/surface#values for “rubber” turns up a few alternatives, with “rubbercrumb” having the most traction: rubber 258 rubbercrumb 170 Rubber 7 rubberiz

Re: [Tagging] Rubberised playground surface

2018-03-12 Thread Tom Pfeifer
On 12.03.2018 13:03, Andy Mabbett wrote: Suggestions, please, for tagging the surface underneath playground items like swings and slides, which is made of a soft, rubber-like material. I've used surface=rubber, for now, but that's not really accurate. It might help to describe why you feel it

Re: [Tagging] Tagging request: missing admin_level tags

2018-03-12 Thread Dave F
OK, I understand what you're trying to highlight, but don't see it as relevant to this thread. But anyway, the "boundary between two countries" can be distinguished as they'll have two relations with boundary data whereas "the high seas" boundary will only have one. DaveF. On 12/03/2018 00:17

[Tagging] Rubberised playground surface

2018-03-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
Suggestions, please, for tagging the surface underneath playground items like swings and slides, which is made of a soft, rubber-like material. I've used surface=rubber, for now, but that's not really accurate. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _

Re: [Tagging] discrepancy in shop definition and "wholesale" value

2018-03-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-03-09 19:24 GMT+01:00 Paul Johnson : > Big box refers to the building form factor. > +1, big box is a building typology (literally a big box, usually freestanding and surrounded by huge parking lots, with some mega-retail inside). Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Campaniles tagging

2018-03-12 Thread Max
Related information: What type of bell is in there? Just one, or a whole Carillon? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Bell Missing info there is the material of the bells: Bronze, Glass, Porcellain On 12.03.2018 07:54, Tomasz Wójcik wrote: > Currently there are 2 tags for camp

Re: [Tagging] Campaniles tagging

2018-03-12 Thread Volker Schmidt
There is more to this. What's the difference between "campanile" and "bell_tower" (independently form the tagging scheme)? Hint: the English Wikipedia redirects to the Bell Tower page (no indication that a "campanile" is free-standing) The English wiki page for "man_made=campanile" says: "A free

Re: [Tagging] Campaniles tagging

2018-03-12 Thread Simone Saviolo
2018-03-12 7:54 GMT+01:00 Tomasz Wójcik : > Currently there are 2 tags for campaniles, which has no difference between > each other: > > * man_made=tower + tower:type=campanile > * man_made=campanile > > I think we should move "man_made=campanile" to "man_made=tower + > tower:type=campanile" combi

Re: [Tagging] Tagging request: missing admin_level tags

2018-03-12 Thread osm.tagging
> -Original Message- > From: Kevin Kenny > Sent: Monday, 12 March 2018 11:15 > To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Tagging request: missing admin_level tags > I'm glad we're in agreement here. This was my key point: the fact > that the existing rende