Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

On Tuesday, 5 November 2019, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 05/11/2019 13:00, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > I just created https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:bicycle%3Ddismount > > to document why it is used and why it is anyway duplicate of bicycle=no. > > > > On the page I claim that > > "In som

Re: [Tagging] Service road - Can it be a driveway if serving multiple houses?

Sections of shared, non-public service road, are certainly a common feature of modern housing developments. I have considered them to be private driveways. Private does not require a sign, walk down any suburban street in Europe or North America and you will see hundreds of driveways, without s

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

On Tuesday, 5 November 2019, Dave F via Tagging wrote: > > > On 05/11/2019 13:11, Andy Townsend wrote: > > > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/65663472 (Meir Tunnel, dry even on a > > wet Wednesday in Stoke*) bans foot and bicycle traffic, so you can > > neither walk nor cycle through it. A

Re: [Tagging] Service road - Can it be a driveway if serving multiple houses?

On Tue, 2019-11-05 at 09:41 -0700, brad wrote: > I live in a single family home with a shared driveway. The next > door > neighbor house is 7 meters from my house. The driveway is about 10 > meters shared, then it splits, about 10 meters to each garage.If > it > were mapped, I think it sho

Re: [Tagging] Supermarket pick-up service

Its not a shop, you don't buy anything there. Maybe supermarket=customer_collect or customer_pickup. Collect fits my British English ears better than pickup, that means something a bit different. One supermarket uses the marketing term Click and Collect. They are covered, so the customer can dr

Re: [Tagging] the nature of large-scale paid edits (was Re: Service road)

On Friday, 8 November 2019, Warin wrote: > > There is simply too much other stuff to do that be worried by every > driveway. So I only map them where they are of some interest to other > than the resident. > This has been mine, and many other OSM mappers view up until recently. However home

Re: [Tagging] emergency=ambulance_station vs amenity=fire_station

On Sun, 2019-11-10 at 14:14 +0100, Jan Michel wrote: > On 10.11.19 13:51, Dave F via Tagging wrote: > > Hi > > > > Simple question (which I presume has been previously discussed) : > > > > Why the different key tags to describe what are essentially > > synonymous > > entities? > > One of them t

Re: [Tagging] shop=ice_cream vs amenity=ice_cream and OSM Wiki vs tagging

On Sun, 2019-11-10 at 15:56 +0100, Markus wrote: > Strangely enough, the page > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dice_cream > > says that shop=ice_cream is "for places selling ice cream to take > home", but shows an image of an ice cream parlour. > > Are there really shops that on

Re: [Tagging] shop=ice_cream vs amenity=ice_cream and OSM Wiki vs tagging

On Sun, 2019-11-10 at 15:57 +, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 at 15:30, Philip Barnes > wrote: > > > I have never come across somewhere only selling Ice-cream to take > > home. > > Me neither. But that's a bit of a false dichotomy. It isn'

Re: [Tagging] shop=ice_cream vs amenity=ice_cream and OSM Wiki vs tagging

On Sun, 2019-11-10 at 17:20 +, Paul Allen wrote: > "Take home" and "take away" share an important property: "not for > consumption on > the premises." Whether you take the stuff home or take it off the > premises and > consume it nearby, you are not consuming it on the premises. > > Try a rel

Re: [Tagging] shop=ice_cream vs amenity=ice_cream and OSM Wiki vs tagging

On Tue, 2019-11-12 at 18:04 +0100, Markus wrote: > > I wouldn't look for a café if i were hungry. Instead i would look for > a restaurant, pub or fast food booth. > > In mainland Europe i expect from a café that i can drink a coffee > there and maybe have a sweet snack. While some also serve salt

Re: [Tagging] shop selling trucks

Lorry has largely fallen out of use, truck is the more used word in British English nowadays. Phil (trigpoint) On Saturday, 16 November 2019, Max wrote: > Given that OSM language is British it probably should be "lorry" not > "truck". > > > On 16.11.19 18:21, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > I

Re: [Tagging] shop selling trucks

Maybe to reflect driving licence requirements? Only those with relatively recent licenses need a special license to drive a vehicle between 3.5 and 7.5t. Many of us can drive a 7.5t vehicle on a car license. Phil (trigpoint) On Monday, 18 November 2019, Volker Schmidt wrote: > Wikipedia inclu

Re: [Tagging] Business which sells static caravans / mobile homes: shop=mobile_home or shop=static_caravan?

On Tuesday, 19 November 2019, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > I looked back at that discussion but it seems to be about > RVs/caravans/motor homes/camper trailers. > > I'm not asking about shops that sell "motor homes" or "RVs" or "5th > wheels" or "camper trailers" or "caravans" or "camper vans". I >

Re: [Tagging] Business which sells static caravans / mobile homes: shop=mobile_home or shop=static_caravan?

A static caravan is very movable, providing you have a hgv and the necessary equipment to lift it. Phil (trigpoint) On Tuesday, 19 November 2019, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Am Di., 19. Nov. 2019 um 05:53 Uhr schrieb Joseph Eisenberg < > joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>: > > > Rather this is a plac

Re: [Tagging] Business which sells static caravans / mobile homes: shop=mobile_home or shop=static_caravan?

On Tue, 2019-11-19 at 18:04 +0100, Andy Townsend wrote: > On 19/11/2019 11:03, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > A search of "static caravans" and "for sale" finds many > > previously-owned static caravans but does not show results for a > > specialty retailer of these residential caravans. > > The plac

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

On Thursday, 5 December 2019, Paul Allen wrote: > On Thu, 5 Dec 2019 at 10:10, Martin Scholtes > wrote: > > > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/park_drive > > Definition: Information that can be taken on this parking lot to form a > > carpool. > > > > I would prefer the k

Re: [Tagging] Route node roles - was Re: Feature Proposal - RFC - hiking_trail_relation_roles

On Sat, 2019-12-07 at 12:28 -0500, Jmapb wrote: > On 12/7/2019 11:52 AM, s8evq wrote: > > On Sat, 7 Dec 2019 10:30:37 +1100, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > For nodes .. think the roles of ways should be done first, but > > > some > > > thoughts for later proposal/s. > > > > > > Are

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - park_drive

On Thu, 2019-12-05 at 14:46 +0100, Martin Scholtes wrote: > Am 05.12.2019 um 12:41 schrieb Sören Reinecke via Tagging: > > > Allows the tag the mapping of carpool meeting points? > The proposal aims at marking parking places where one could meet to > carpool or which explicitly provide for parking

Re: [Tagging] Vegan "cheese" shops

On Wednesday, 18 December 2019, marc marc wrote: > Le 18.12.19 à 16:58, Robert Skedgell a écrit : > > I think creating shop=vegan_cheese might be excessively specialised. > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6776593885 > > ho yes, please don't create a new shop=* only to describe that > the shop

Re: [Tagging] Vegan "cheese" shops

On Wednesday, 18 December 2019, marc marc wrote: > Le 18.12.19 à 17:24, Philip Barnes a écrit : > > On Wednesday, 18 December 2019, marc marc wrote: > >> Le 18.12.19 à 16:58, Robert Skedgell a écrit : > >>> I think creating shop=vegan_cheese might be excess

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tax free shopping

On Saturday, 4 January 2020, Hauke Stieler wrote: > Hi, > > > I don't think it can be phrased that way. As for the VAT in the EU, > > everybody who proves that the goods were exported is eligible for a tax > > refund. > > you're right, maybe saying that "this shop does not offer any service > (

Re: [Tagging] surface=block_paved, or surface=paved + paving=block

On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 07:15 +0900, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > The picture shows clay bricks being laid as paving for a service > road, in a herringbone pattern. > > Perhaps this should be surface=brick/bricks? Both are used a few > thousand times. > That is definitely block paving, not bricks. Not

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Free Water for cafés, bars,

In GB it is the law that licensed premises provide free drinking water. So that , means all pubs, most restaurants and some cafes. Phil (trigpoint) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] How to tag oneway restriction applying to pedestrians?

On Tuesday, 14 January 2020, Paul Allen wrote: > On Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 14:35, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > Mine goes like this: leading the list is the completely meaningless (and I > > guess most will agree with this judgement) oneway:foot=no > > > > It's not meaningless at all. It says

Re: [Tagging] distance_from_road tag

On Wednesday, 15 January 2020, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2020-01-15 13:52, Lionel Giard wrote: > > > Yes this is something you can do with any distance algorithm in available > > in any GIS tool. That's not something that i would ever map as it would > > vary with any geometry change of the ways

Re: [Tagging] Query regarding seasonal tag combined for outdoor water fountains.

On Wednesday, 15 January 2020, marc marc wrote: > Le 15.01.20 à 16:15, Jmapb via Tagging a écrit : > > On 1/15/2020 12:55 AM, European Water Project wrote: > >> Would it be appropriate to use the tag "seasonal" for a water fountain > >> (whether tagged as "amenity=drinking_water" or "amenity = fo

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tax free shopping

On Thursday, 16 January 2020, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > I would consider explicit mention that typical shop should not be tagged with > duty_free=no (only in cases where shop used to be or can be expected to be > duty free, > for example in an airport it potentially makes sense to use that tag)

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tax free shopping

On Friday, 17 January 2020, Hauke Stieler wrote: > > A shop at an airport where travelers generally pay no taxes would be > tagged with "duty_free=yes" and optionally with "duty_free:refund=no". > Not totally accurate, in my experience. At airport duty free shops you have to show your boardin

Re: [Tagging] RFC free_water

I would tend to agree with Frederik. In GB (1) all licensed premises (2) must offer free tap water to customers. This covers all pubs and bars, most restaurants and some cafe. The mappers time would be far more efficiently spent adding a tag to indicate which restaurants and cafes are licensed

Re: [Tagging] RFC free_water

On Wednesday, 22 January 2020, European Water Project wrote: > Hi Paul et. al, > > I would also be very supportive of this straightforward approach which > would address many of the concerns regarding an over complicated tagging > scheme covering cases that are often mandated by local legislatio

Re: [Tagging] All European Union countries use E5/E10/B7 instead of gasoline 98/95, Diesel 10S respectively

On Saturday, 25 January 2020, Thibault Molleman wrote: > Hi, > > Back in 2018 all countries in the European Union were forced to switch > their naming scheme for fuels at gas stations to the new E5/E10/B7 scheme > (referring to the amount of bio-ethanol in the fuel. > > Sources: > http://www.fl

Re: [Tagging] All European Union countries use E5/E10/B7 instead of gasoline 98/95, Diesel 10S respectively

On Saturday, 25 January 2020, Thibault Molleman wrote: > Hi, > > Back in 2018 all countries in the European Union were forced to switch > their naming scheme for fuels at gas stations to the new E5/E10/B7 scheme > (referring to the amount of bio-ethanol in the fuel. > > Sources: > http://www.fl

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

On Monday, 27 January 2020, Thibault Molleman wrote: > " A restaurant where the server fills up your bottle based on his or her > humor should not be tagged as part of the refill scheme. " > Maybe add a line to clarify that the sign requirement is specifically > regarding schemes. A place doesn't

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

On Tuesday, 4 February 2020, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > Universities may have faculties, that often deserved to be mapped separately. > > For example university may take a large area, possibly disjointed area across > the city > but Faculty of dentistry, Faculty of forestry, Faculty o

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.25.0

On Wednesday, 5 February 2020, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > Il giorno 5 feb 2020, alle ore 16:11, Paul Allen ha > > scritto: > > > > 4) Where the only tags are barrier=hedge + area=yes then render > > as before, > > > +1, any object with area=yes should be consid

Re: [Tagging] implied surface values?

On Tuesday, 11 February 2020, Volker Schmidt wrote: > Do we have any agreed implied surface values for the different street > categories ? per country? > > I noticed this phrase > "in many cases this is implied by the way itself (for highway=trunk to > highway=residential, paved is implied) " >

Re: [Tagging] implied surface values?

e tags such as asphalt, setts, concrete add the detail of what sort of paved. Phil (trigpoint) > > On Tue, 11 Feb 2020 at 17:14, Philip Barnes wrote: > > > > > > > On Tuesday, 11 February 2020, Volker Schmidt wrote: > > > Do we have any agreed implied surfa

Re: [Tagging] implied surface values?

On Wednesday, 12 February 2020, ael wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 07:15:42PM +0100, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > > > > >> > > > >> In the UK too paved is implied, I have never used paved. Surface tags > > >> such as asphalt, setts, concrete add the detail of what sort of paved. >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

On Sun, 2020-02-16 at 13:21 +, Steve Doerr wrote: > On 15/02/2020 16:56, Markus Peloso > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/in-kind_donation > > > > For > >

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

Often used to make residential streets into deadends to prevent rat-running, to enforce vehicle bans, to prevent delivery vehicles parking on the sidewalk instead of the delivery bay. In most cases bollards are fixed, there is usually only one or two removable bollards to create a gap wide enou

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

Hi Joseph In British English the phrase has the same meaning as you describe. The most common usage is in taxation terms when an employee receives a benefit that is not money. Examples can be a cars, housing. My reaction to this proposal was the same as yours, they are describing a charity shop

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - in-kind_donation

"in-kind" donation income for tax purposes, but > that's not how an oridinary British person would talk about donating > some used books or toys, right? In kind is not the phrase we would use, we would call it a donation. Phil (trigpoint) > > Joseph Eisenberg > &g

Re: [Tagging] URL tracking parameters

On Tuesday, 25 February 2020, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 25.02.20 04:36, Jonathon Rossi wrote: > > Ignoring they've just added an incorrect "website:" key when there is > > already a "website" one, Hilton Hotels appear to be adding URLs with > > WT.mc_id parameters to all their web site lin

Re: [Tagging] URL tracking parameters

I have commented on a recent edit near me asking both questions and pointing out the url they should use. Phil (trigpoint) On Tuesday, 25 February 2020, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 25.02.20 11:01, Philip Barnes wrote: > > Another issue I have with Hilton Hotels is all

Re: [Tagging] Annual Shows

On Wednesday, 26 February 2020, Marc Gemis wrote: > What about music festivals? I live close to the area that hosts one of > the biggest festivals in the world: Tomorrowland. [1] > The festival takes place in a former quarry, which is a park for the > rest of the year, although it hosts some smalle

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - give box

On Sun, 2020-03-15 at 12:42 -0400, Jmapb via Tagging wrote: > On 3/15/2020 6:18 AM, Markus Peloso > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box > > > > A small facilit

Re: [Tagging] Implied default access tags for barrier=stile?

On Sunday, 26 April 2020, s8evq wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Are any default access tags implied with barrier=stile? > Similar to barrier=bollard > (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dbollard mentions > "By default access=no, foot=yes, and bicycle=yes is implied") > > If it's on

Re: [Tagging] highway=service, service=driveway vs highway=track

On Thu, 2020-04-30 at 13:52 -0600, Mike Thompson wrote: > On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 1:28 PM ael wrote: > > > I would not be comfortable tagging very rough tracks as anything > > but a track: > > if it requires a 4 wheel drive or agricultural vehicle to > > negotiate. > > I think a "road" normally i

Re: [Tagging] How to tag way with two traffic signs affecting different directions?

Hi AntónioNormally I would add direction:forward or direction:backward to a stop or give_way to indicate which direction it applies in. Where speed limits are different you can use maxspeed:backward and maxspeed:forward. Phil (trigpoint) On Sat, 2020-05-02 at 15:16 -0300, António Madeira wrote: >

Re: [Tagging] Remove non-prefixed versions of 'contact:' scheme

On Monday, 4 May 2020, Paul Allen wrote: > On Mon, 4 May 2020 at 21:59, Marc M. wrote: > > > > > - avoid having 2 tags for the same thing. > > it's bad for both contributors and data-uses. > > > > Except we don't all agree that they are for the same thing, not even phone > and contact:phone T

Re: [Tagging] Is there any tagging scheme for carillons already?

On Wed, 2020-05-06 at 14:03 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > sent from a phone > > > On 6. May 2020, at 13:14, lukas-...@web.de wrote: > > > > In the wiki I found bell_tower=* (but without a carillon-specific > > value) and I think a carillon does not have to be a bell_tower at > > all, so the

Re: [Tagging] Remove non-prefixed versions of 'contact:' scheme

On 11/05/2020 10:29, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On 5/10/20 7:36 PM, Cj Malone wrote: I think I stand by that quote, but I'm happy to discus it. I'm not arguing that over night we should stop people using the phone tag. Currently phone has at least 2 uses. A contact number and an incoming number for

Re: [Tagging] Meaning of "administrative" in boundary=administrative, in your country?

On Thu, 2020-05-14 at 12:15 +0100, Paul Allen wrote: > On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 11:21, Colin Smale > wrote: > > [Sub-divisions of health boards in Wales] > > > I am sure someone knows where the boundaries are. > > Yes, But that doesn't mean they're making the information public. I > had a > br

Re: [Tagging] Permanent ID/URI --- off topic email

On Tue, 2020-05-19 at 09:43 +0200, European Water Project wrote: > Dear All, > I am looking for a way to create permanent links to specific objects > (fountains and cafés) with images within our application ... and I > have a couple of questions. > > How quickly do OSM node and ways numbers muta

Re: [Tagging] leisure=recreation_ground discouraged?

We normally use landuse=recreation_ground, have never come across the leisure version. Phil (trigpoint) On 5 December 2018 12:24:05 GMT, Dave F wrote: >Hi > >It appears there's an attempt to discourage/deprecate >leisure=recreation_ground. > >https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3D

Re: [Tagging] leisure=recreation_ground discouraged?

Just tried in iD, landuse is pre-programmed, not leisure. Phil (trigpoint) On 5 December 2018 13:31:15 GMT, Dave F wrote: >Last time I looked it was a preprogrammed option in all the 3 main >editors. > >On 05/12/2018 13:28, Philip Barnes wrote: >> We normally use landuse

Re: [Tagging] Road blocks?

On Mon, 2018-12-24 at 11:31 +0300, Anton Klim wrote: > Seeing the tag for the first time, but it's on the wiki so some > router should support it. > I usually drop a simple barrier=block on the way, with a fixme and > check_date for an approximate works end date. > Keep in mind that quite a lot o

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Top up

I don't use these systems but would agree with Paul on this, there will be hundreds of things that can be paid at these terminals. Beyond what has so far been mentioned you can pay road tolls or buy tickets for my local bus and probably many other local bus companies. Although I can imagine so

Re: [Tagging] What do we call it? :-)

On Fri, 2018-12-28 at 16:36 +1000, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > & yards dedicated to caravan sales? I can find shop=car > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop=car, which says it's a > place that sells cars, buses or trucks. Perhaps shop=caravan? > Shop=caravan has over 100 uses, so wh

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair designated parking space tagging?

On Fri, 2019-01-04 at 21:43 +0100, Richard wrote: > Hi, > > looking through the wiki can't find how parking space designated > for wheelchair/disabled users should be tagged? It is mentioned in the wiki under parking space https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dparking_space#Disabled

Re: [Tagging] Drain vs ditch

On 11 January 2019 22:19:33 GMT, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > >Aren't mills usually fed from *"The Old Mill Stream"* :-) > They are usually called a mill race. Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___

Re: [Tagging] Yay, new howto map for diabilities created in wiki

Hi Richard The word handicap in this context is very outdated. It is likely to be seen as condescending. I would suggest changing to disability. Cheers Phil (trigpoint) On 11 January 2019 22:18:01 GMT, Richard wrote: >Hi, > >collected the information that I found here: > >https://wiki.opens

Re: [Tagging] Yay, new howto map for diabilities created in wiki

On 14 January 2019 19:15:04 GMT, Richard wrote: >On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 11:43:15AM +, Paul Allen wrote: >> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 22:37, Philip Barnes >wrote: > >it is a howto, so I will rename it accordingly.. not quite sure yet >which >name to choose: > >*

Re: [Tagging] Yay, new howto map for diabilities created in wiki

_for_ the needs..." > No problem with that. How to map for the needs of people with disabilities. Phil (trigpoint) >-- althio > >On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 at 10:15, Sergio Manzi wrote: >> >> Perfect! >> >> On 2019-01-

Re: [Tagging] Link roads between different highways type

On 15 January 2019 14:03:38 GMT, Paul Johnson wrote: >I think agreeing with the higher level is correct as the link usually >inheirets, or at least tolerates, the rules and design standards for >the >higher road. The exception will be where a motorway ends at a roundabout, the roundabout will

Re: [Tagging] Link roads between different highways type

I did once have an issue with josm complaining about the classification of this roundabout. https://osm.org/go/eux0WFrmx- Phil (trigpoint) On 15 January 2019 15:43:39 GMT, Volker Schmidt wrote: >In reality this varies from case to case and from country to country. >The important part is that

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

Am fairly certain that the same is true in British English. The terms used by The Camping and Caravanning Club booking section are 5th wheel Camper Van Caravan Caravan (twin axle) Motorhome Tent Trailer Tent Phil (trigpoint) On 15 January 2019 19:49:23 GMT, Mark Wagner wrote: >On Mon, 14 Ja

Re: [Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

On 16 January 2019 05:26:23 GMT, Kevin Kenny wrote: >Michael Patrick: >> What's a 'Horse Float' under RVs? https://i.gifer.com/SC79.gif >> Seriously, this term is a great example of a regional difference. In >the U.S., it's equine dental / foot care. >On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 8:57 PM Warin <61sun

Re: [Tagging] club=scout for similar organisations

Not sure the scouts would appreciate being labelled as yoof. I know I wouldn't have when I was a scout. Phil (trigpoint) On 3 February 2019 04:58:42 CET, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: >On 03/02/19 13:37, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >> On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 12:07, marc marc >

Re: [Tagging] StreetComplete 10 / foot=yes on residential

On 14 February 2019 15:05:56 GMT, Rory McCann wrote: >I can't find any issue on Github for this feature. > >But in Ireland (& I think UK), all public roads except motorways, are >foot=yes. Legally you can walk on the road, even if there is not >footpath ("sidewalk"). I think this adds bloat an

Re: [Tagging] Medicine Disposal

Sharps is the term used in the UK too. Phil (trigpoint) On 16 February 2019 22:37:00 GMT, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: >On 16/02/19 19:54, Markus wrote: >> On Sat, 16 Feb 2019, 00:59 Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: >> >> >> Would =drugs also apply to sharps

Re: [Tagging] Baby-sitting

It can be a child of any age that is too young to be left alone. The legal age will vary by country or state but entirely possible a 14 year old could be babysat. Don't take the word baby too literally, technically its short term adhoc childcare whilst the parents go out for an evening. Phil (

Re: [Tagging] Status of oneway=cw oneway=ccw

On Tue, 2019-03-12 at 10:50 -0700, Johnparis wrote: > direction=clockwise/anticlockwise makes sense for a node (like a > miniroundabout), not for a way > > on a way, the common usage is "oneway=yes" and make sure the way > (which is by nature directional) is pointing the right direction. > > It d

Re: [Tagging] Is there any use of shop=general/general_store not covered by shop=convenience/supermarket/country_store?

I would assume a general store sells a much wider range of goods than a convenience store. Food and hardware for example. Phil (trigpoint) On Monday, 25 March 2019, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Is there any reason for shop=general and shop=general_store to keep existing? > > It seems that all ca

Re: [Tagging] Is there any use of shop=general/general_store not covered by shop=convenience/supermarket/country_store?

On Mon, 2019-03-25 at 13:57 -0400, Kevin Kenny wrote: > On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 11:44 AM Mateusz Konieczny > wrote: > > My conclusion is that this is an old shop type, currently getting > > rare but there are still some valid uses > > but many cases would benefit from retagging to more popular sho

Re: [Tagging] shop=underwear vs shop=clothes + clothes=underwear

And shops just selling underwear usually describe themselves as lingerie. Phil (trigpoint) On Tuesday, 26 March 2019, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > Is there any good reason to use > > shop=underwear > > rather than > > shop=clothes + clothes=underwear > > ? > > Both describe shop selling prima

Re: [Tagging] amenity=place_of_worship | Re: Mapping of indigenous sacred / ceremonial sites

On Wednesday, 3 April 2019, Rory McCann wrote: > > For controlling access, it depends on what sort of control there is. > Most sacred sites ("churches") aren't tagged as `access=private` (even > though they are). One would hope data consumers would take that as implied. I would never have consi

Re: [Tagging] amenity=place_of_worship | Re: Mapping of indigenous sacred / ceremonial sites

On Wednesday, 3 April 2019, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > > > Apr 3, 2019, 12:20 PM by vosc...@gmail.com: > > > "building=church" is a building that has the characteristics of a church, > > but to indicate its use as a (christian) church it has to be tagged with > > "amenity=place_of_worship

Re: [Tagging] Horse mounting steps compared to horse walker

On Mon, 2019-04-01 at 19:47 +0100, Paul Allen wrote: > On Mon, 1 Apr 2019 at 19:23, Tony Shield > wrote: > > > > > > > > > and have confidence that this historic grade II mounting block > > will fit into the schema? Its not presently in use as it is > > in a > > school ya

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Grain Storage Centre

On Friday, 5 April 2019, Richard Welty wrote: > On 4/5/19 11:19 AM, Cédric Mélac wrote: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Grain_Storage_Centre > > Defintion: A large site with many silos and barns which concentrates > > crops from farms around before selling at best prices.

Re: [Tagging] tags for a live stock sale yard

Cattle Market, or Livestock Market are the British terms for these. Cattle Market is the more general term although the signs these days will say Livestock Market so that is probably the most accurate. Landuse I would have thought would be commercial. Phil (trigpoint) On Thursday, 11 Apri

Re: [Tagging] Requiring area=yes with barrier=wall, barrier=hedge and other usually linear features when mapped as an area`1

Hedges are normally linear feature and being a rambler in rural Shropshire I map a lot of them. It is quite common to map a hedge as a closed way around a field with barrier nodes for gates and stiles. Without an area tag I would assume this norm, it is how very many are mapped. Sometimes a h

Re: [Tagging] documenting cycleway=crossing

On Tuesday, 16 April 2019, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Apr 16, 2019, 8:21 AM by tagging@openstreetmap.org: > > >> highway=cycleway cycleway=crossing > >> > > > > I have been mapping more and more cycleways here in Japan, and there is a > > true need for cycleway=crossing. > > > > Unlike some

Re: [Tagging] Incorrectly tagging locks on rivers as canals

On 25/04/2019 11:25, Richard Fairhurst wrote: DaveF wrote: The water flowing through it is still river water. The water flowing down lots of canals is ultimately river water :) - the Llangollen Canal is fed by the River Dee, the Mon & Brec by the Usk, and so on. In the case of the Llangollen

Re: [Tagging] Incorrectly tagging locks on rivers as canals

On 25/04/2019 11:25, Richard Fairhurst wrote: DaveF wrote: The water flowing through it is still river water. The water flowing down lots of canals is ultimately river water :) - the Llangollen Canal is fed by the River Dee, the Mon & Brec by the Usk, and so on. In the case of the Llangollen

Re: [Tagging] Incorrectly tagging locks on rivers as canals

On Thursday, 25 April 2019, Paul Allen wrote: > On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 13:00, Dave F via Tagging > wrote: > > > Have these diversions been given a 'XYZ Canal' name? if not then it's a > > river. > > > > I think the duck test needs to be applied. > > > > So does the presence of ducks make it a

Re: [Tagging] Why should we avoid overusage of amenity=* tag?

On Wednesday, 24 April 2019, Warin wrote: > On 25/04/19 04:39, Dave F wrote: > > > > > > On 21/04/2019 01:12, Warin wrote: > >> > >> > >> I am all for the introduction of the key education=* > >> > >> > >> It makes sense, adds detail - improves the map data base. > > > > True. > > > > The one that

Re: [Tagging] Verifiability wiki page: "Geometry" section added

On Tuesday, 30 April 2019, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 30. Apr 2019, at 15:03, Colin Smale wrote: > > > > Be careful with these generalisations. This might be true for North > > America, but it is not true in the UK, for example, where cemeteries/burial > > gr

Re: [Tagging] Verifiability wiki page: "Geometry" section added

On Tuesday, 30 April 2019, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > On Wed, 1 May 2019 at 00:46, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > > > > On 30. Apr 2019, at 15:03, Colin Smale wrote: > > > > > > Beware also the quest for the universal solution. Postal addressing, > > administrative segmentation and people

Re: [Tagging] unused tags and properties

On Wednesday, 1 May 2019, Warin wrote: > Fridge, stove and sink would be handy for some camp sites ... I came > across one camp site with a fridge .. standing all by itself in the open > (with a power point connection). Most of these woiuld be 'inside' a camp > kitchen .. (some camp kitchens hav

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC (etc) for crossing:signals

On Wednesday, 8 May 2019, marc marc wrote: > Le 08.05.19 à 01:30, Nick Bolten a écrit : > > Unmarked crossings are abstract "fictions" > > beware of caricature : > - unmarked pedestrian crossings with lowered kerb for wheelchairs > - unmarked pedestrian crossing that connects a sidewalk on each si

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Top_up (fifth revision)

On Sun, 2019-05-12 at 00:10 +0900, 石野貴之 wrote: > Hello. > > > 2019年5月11日(土) 5:30 bkil : > > I've read in the previous rejection comments that many opposed to > > > > putting brand details in keys. What do you think about this > > version: > > > > prepaid_top_up:mobile=yes/. The reason is that a

Re: [Tagging] Misuse of name tag for route description

On Sat, 2019-05-11 at 19:09 +0100, Paul Allen wrote: > On Sat, 11 May 2019 at 18:53, Mateusz Konieczny < > matkoni...@tutanota.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > The question is whatever it requires separate proposal to fix old > > proposal or is invoking > > general rule "name tag is for

Re: [Tagging] Apps of delivery

We have deliveroo operating locally, however I have never seen verifiable evidence on the restaurants that they offer that service. Therefore I would not consider this a suitable thing to tag in OSM. Phil (trigpoint) On Wednesday, 15 May 2019, santamariense wrote: > > I didn't understand what

Re: [Tagging] Apps of delivery

On Wednesday, 15 May 2019, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 15. May 2019, at 11:32, Philip Barnes wrote: > > > > We have deliveroo operating locally, however I have never seen verifiable > > evidence on the rest

Re: [Tagging] Opening hours syntax for non Gregorian calendar

On Thursday, 23 May 2019, Paul Allen wrote: > On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 00:06, Graeme Fitzpatrick > wrote: > > > > > But what are Christmas & Easter if they're not religious holidays? :-) > > > > Not all religious holidays are created equal. Many cafes and restaurants > in tourist areas are > clos

Re: [Tagging] building=bank

On Sun, 2019-05-26 at 15:21 +0200, Volker Schmidt wrote: > I agree with you, that there are these "churches of capitalism" that > undeniably look like banks. But the problem is that this is small > fraction only of all banks. > The risk is that many typical office buildings will become bank > buil

Re: [Tagging] Telephone poles and lines?

On Mon, 2019-05-27 at 08:48 +1000, Warin wrote: > Around me, the 'poles' carry; > > power, > > cable internet, > > cable TV (some times the cable carries both TV and internet combined) > and > > telephone. > > The don't usually have poles for each service. The presence of poles is very depend

Re: [Tagging] Inland customs offices

On Fri, 2019-05-31 at 19:57 +1000, Warin wrote: > On 31/05/19 19:41, Paul Allen wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 31 May 2019 at 10:19, Jan S > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > But independently from that, we agr

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