On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 5:46 PM, marc marc wrote:
> SomeonElse write me today because since access=unknown could have a
> hidden meaning (= for access key, the mapper doesn't know if access is
> allowed and wants to make it known that it's complicated), he finds that
> this cleaning should be reve
On 16/03/2018 21:46, marc marc wrote:
SomeonElse write me today because since access=unknown could have a
hidden meaning (= for access key, the mapper doesn't know if access is
allowed and wants to make it known that it's complicated)
What I actually said was on
https://www.openstreetmap.org/c
Hello,
> wheelchair=unknown mostly in Iraq and Saudi Arabia (also from older
imports)
Many months before this thread, talk for an automated edit was started
to cleanup 15k+ objets with this value (most due to a wheelmap bug and
bad undocumented import, but not only).
As the wiki said, for whe
On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 4:28 PM, Andy Townsend wrote:
> I use fixmes a lot (I even wrote something to extract them from OSM for
> survey - https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/Notes01 ). Where I've used e.g.
> foot=unknown it usually means "I've been there, I don't know what the access
> rights are,
On 05/02/2018 16:46, OSMDoudou wrote:
I'd rather use fixme and note tags instead of encoding uncodified information
in well-established tags.
I use fixmes a lot (I even wrote something to extract them from OSM for
survey - https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/Notes01 ). Where I've used
e.g. fo
You have a point… :-)
The wiki already presents the idea that unknown means "unclear". [2]
Taginfo tells access=unknown has 20 thousand occurrences (i.e. 0.30% and
ranking at the 11th position), which makes it not so unusual. [3]
The discussion here shows the value of "unknown" raises confusion
Hi,
Is 'unknown' really such an unusual and undesirable as an access tag? I
thought it was long-established, if not especially common. If the issue is
a lack of Wiki documentation that is easily solved.
I think that highway=footway foot=unknown adds a useful level of nuance.
For example a routing
I'd rather use fixme and note tags instead of encoding uncodified information
in well-established tags.
The wiki page [1] explains a bit the difference: "The fixme key allows
contributors to mark objects and places that need further attention. These can
be in the form of a "note to self" or req
> Like with any tag value, if data consumers don't undestand it they can just
> ignore it.
One of the data consumer is human. And humans are confused when something hold
unexpected value. :-)
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Hi all:
I was the one who organized the import of 14,000+ places nodes in
Liberia back in September 2014.
The idea of giving place=unknown (together with a fixme=* tag) to places
that were not possible to determine its value was proposed during the
discussion in the imports list [1] [2].
p
On 05-Feb-18 03:30 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
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On 4. Feb 2018, at 12:44, OSMDoudou
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If your analysis shows these tags don't add value (this is to say: don't make a
gigantic update on places you haven't reviewed), you
Maybe they should be converted into a fixme=* value then, such as
fixme="unknown maxspeed;unknown foot access;unknown wheelchair
accessibility".
Though I've always assumed that an absent tag means its value is
unknown, so foot=unknown and no foot=* whatsoever would mean the exact
same thing. Some
On 03/02/2018 22:16, Nelson A. de Oliveira wrote:
foot=unknown in England
I've added a few of those - mostly they're places where there is
physical access, but it's really not clear what the access rights (if
any) are. There's no signage suggesting legal access, no infrastructure
suggesting
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> On 4. Feb 2018, at 12:44, OSMDoudou
> <19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96-288ea1238...@gmx.com> wrote:
>
> If your analysis shows these tags don't add value (this is to say: don't make
> a gigantic update on places you haven't reviewed), you better remove them
> (possibly with a com
Others already gave possible causes, so I won't add or repeat.
It's pointless tagging and leaves us guessing whatever it could mean.
If your analysis shows these tags don't add value (this is to say: don't make a
gigantic update on places you haven't reviewed), you better remove them
(possibly
Hello,
Le 03. 02. 18 à 19:18, Dave F a écrit :
> I recently seen a variety of keys being given the value of 'unknown'.
> I'm struggling to see its purpose. It confirms nothing & adds no value
> to the database. Am I missing something?
it's hard to explain without an example.
from my personal ex
On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Dave F wrote:
> I recently seen a variety of keys being given the value of 'unknown'.
> I'm struggling to see its purpose. It confirms nothing & adds no value to
> the database. Am I missing something?
You are right.
It's interesting if you take a look at some val
(Without digging through the database) I suspect that might be caused
by the idea of default values... Imagine drawing a road. If you don't
tag it as 'oneway', it is assumed not to be a 'oneway'. If you
honestly don't know, you need to tag it with something like 'unknown'.
But that's just my guess
Hi
I recently seen a variety of keys being given the value of 'unknown'.
I'm struggling to see its purpose. It confirms nothing & adds no value
to the database. Am I missing something?
DaveF
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Hi
I recently seen a variety of keys being given the value of 'unknown'.
I'm struggling to see its purpose. It confirms nothing & adds no value
to the database. Am I missing something?
DaveF
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