2010/11/8 Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net:
so that whether it's a shop, an amenity, a landuse
a 'something' can appear in more than one list
+1
lists of things in buildings
a building=xy (typology) tag is not substituting a
amenity/culture/etc. tag that describes a service or function.
On Lunes 08 Noviembre 2010 08:20:06 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió:
2010/11/8 Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org:
I think we can simply say that culture=museum is for every building or
intitution that names itself as, and let it have other key,
subordinated, like museum=art,
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 09:33:39 +0100
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
lists of things in towns
don't understand this. Do you propose a new key town?
absolutely not
but a useful list of what someone might find in a town
public buildings
toilets
parks
bbq
playground
On 8 November 2010 08:24, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote:
Well, what is your definition of museum? I don't have to follow
slavishly wikipedia but I took this as a first indication.
This reminds me of turning to the dictionary for a definition of democracy
when debating
On 8 November 2010 08:35, Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.orgwrote:
Art galleries are not museums, they are shops. If an institution SELLS art
works, it has to expose them in order for potential buyers to see, so it is
shop=something. If it does NOT SELL, it is culture=museum (even if
2010/11/8 Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.org:
culture=museum is every building or intitution that names itself as.
Art galleries are not museums, they are shops. If an institution SELLS art
works, it has to expose them in order for potential buyers to see, so it is
shop=something.
On 8 November 2010 10:25, Noel David Torres Taño env...@rolamasao.orgwrote:
On Lunes 08 Noviembre 2010 10:09:03 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió:
yes, we already have a shop value for art galleries that generally
sell the exposed works, but Tom was saying that we should distinguish
between
On Lunes 08 Noviembre 2010 10:33:32 Tom Chance escribió:
On 8 November 2010 10:25, Noel David Torres Taño
env...@rolamasao.orgwrote:
On Lunes 08 Noviembre 2010 10:09:03 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer escribió:
yes, we already have a shop value for art galleries that generally
sell the exposed
2010/11/8 Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net:
I can accept that MOMA in New York, the National Gallery in London, the
Reina Sofia in Madrid and the Louvre in Paris might be considered museums
with permanent exhibitions of art.
fine, then we agree, I didn't have this impression so far.
I agree
On 8 November 2010 10:53, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote:
I agree that places whose primary purpose is to sell prints, paintings by
local artists and framing services should be marked as shop=art.
Thin ice IMHO. You are saying that original art by local artists is
on the
2010/11/8 Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net:
On 8 November 2010 10:53, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
We are on thin ice in every distinction in the culture category, frankly. As
I wrote earlier, thousands of years of debate and linguistic ambiguity can't
be condensed into a
On 8 November 2010 11:41, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote:
2010/11/8 Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net:
culture=art_gallery: a place where the primary purpose is the temporary
exhibition of art works for artistic appreciation
_and_ who nevertheless sell art? saatchi for
On 8 November 2010 13:14, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote:
a gallery doesn't have to be a building by it self, it doesn't have
to be focused on selling (a false distinction in my book), it can
be 2 or 3 walls in a library
For the moment Martin's proposal doesn't offer anything for
2010/11/8 Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net:
On 8 November 2010 13:14, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote:
a gallery doesn't have to be a building by it self, it doesn't have
to be focused on selling (a false distinction in my book), it can
be 2 or 3 walls in a library
For the moment
Hi,
Adding 'culture=community_center' and culture=community_centre' would helpfull.
although there needs to be a clear difference from 'tourism' key.
perhaps 'tourism' is reserved for things that are designed primarly
for the benifit of visitors to the area, were 'culture' is more for
locals
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote:
On 7 November 2010 13:04, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com
wrote:
Adding 'culture=community_center' and culture=community_centre' would
helpfull.
On this particular suggestion, I think community centers are
Am 07.11.2010 14:04, schrieb Sam Vekemans:
Hi,
Adding 'culture=community_center' and culture=community_centre' would helpfull.
although there needs to be a clear difference from 'tourism' key.
perhaps 'tourism' is reserved for things that are designed primarly
for the benifit of visitors to
Thanks,
I'll have a look at the latest version of josm, and see your menu tree
structure, before commenting further :)
poke me if i dont :)
cheers,
sam
On 11/7/10, Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am 07.11.2010 14:04, schrieb Sam Vekemans:
Hi,
Adding 'culture=community_center'
2010/11/7 Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com:
Hi,
Adding 'culture=community_center' and culture=community_centre' would
helpfull.
although there needs to be a clear difference from 'tourism' key.
I think the current definition of tourism is not too bad: Places and
things of
2010/11/7 Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net:
In general I like this proposal, but given that this changes a substantial
number of very well used tags that go back to almost the beginning of the
project it is essential to describe how existing data will be migrated
across, tools updated, mappers
Am 7. November 2010 14:21 schrieb Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de:
Hi Martin,
In my opinion it would be a good step to unite the
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Tagging_guidelines
I don't understand this. How is it related to this proposal? The
linked page looks at first glance
2010/11/7 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
All the culture=* tags describe amenities.
It is true that they are at least partly a subgroup of amenity, which
is by general judgement quite overcrowded at the moment. A subgroup
that incorporates objects that share a certain aspect and can
therefore be
2010/11/7 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com:
I came to the conclusion, that deciding if e.g. a museum better fits in
tourism or leisure is pointless - as it is both and the decision will
largely depend on your personal bias and the museum in question.
yes, and both is not suitable to
On 7 November 2010 17:09, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.comwrote:
2010/11/7 Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net:
In general I like this proposal, but given that this changes a
substantial
number of very well used tags that go back to almost the beginning of the
project it is essential
2010/11/7 Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net:
On 7 November 2010 17:09, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com
wrote:
IMHO we could simply start using it. Tools will get amended
automatically, as soon as a substancial number of items is tagged
with it.
As somebody who makes substantial use
someone tried to change the meaning of culture=arts_centre by amending
the text to a meaning different of the one of amenity=arts_centre and
added also a new tag culture=community_arts_centre (without specifying
what this should be, but I guess it is our good old arts_centre).
Please do not do
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 14:43:28 -0500
Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
It is true that they are at least partly a subgroup of amenity,
which is by general judgement quite overcrowded at the moment.
Overcrowded? Less than 0.1% of possible
values are taken.
How about
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 19:18:33 +
Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote:
don't know. It seems that the british art world is not very active
on wikipedia then, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_gallery
redirects to art_museum ;-)
Ah, Wikipedia, that well known internationally agreed
On Domingo 07 Noviembre 2010 13:04:31 Sam Vekemans escribió:
Hi,
Adding 'culture=community_center' and culture=community_centre' would
Independeltly of if they are culture or not, should only one of these two be
used. We do not need two tags for exactly the same thing, do we?
Noel
er Envite
I think we can simply say that culture=museum is for every building or
intitution that names itself as, and let it have other key, subordinated,
like museum=art, museum=history, museum=technology, museum=anthropology,
museum=natural_history, museum=science. Thse cover almost all possible museum
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 16:13:52 -0500
Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote:
Is is really obvious to everyone but me which of (archaeological_site,
art_gallery, artwork, bar, bookstore, cafe, cinema, dance, garden,
library, memorial, monument, museum, park, pub, sports_centre,
stadium, theatre,
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