Re: [Tagging] highway=unclassified

2011-07-29 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/7/29 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 2:58 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if this definition which was formerly part of the description for highway=unclassified is still valid: I love it when people are brave enough to question

Re: [Tagging] highway=unclassified

2011-07-29 Thread Willi
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer [mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com] wrote on 29. July 2011 14:55 If others change the definitions in the wiki for those intensely used tags ... there's a high probability that this will render OSM data inappropriate for serious use. Willi

Re: [Tagging] highway=unclassified

2011-07-29 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 7/29/2011 7:21 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: I think the underlying problem is that there's a big gap between tertiary, which should be a road that really is used to go somewhere and residential, which more or less means a road that you wouldn't care about unless you destination is on or very near

Re: [Tagging] highway=unclassified

2011-07-29 Thread Sander Deryckere
I think that this cannot be discussed here. This has to be done locally. In Belgium, primary roads are roads with a reference in the form of an N or R followed by one or two numbers. The reference of a secondary road contains one letter and three numbers and a tertiary has no reference but has

Re: [Tagging] highway=unclassified

2011-07-29 Thread Greg Troxel
Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com writes: On 7/29/2011 7:21 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: I think the underlying problem is that there's a big gap between tertiary, which should be a road that really is used to go somewhere and residential, which more or less means a road that you wouldn't care

Re: [Tagging] highway=unclassified

2011-07-29 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 7/29/2011 9:17 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: Nathan Edgars IInerou...@gmail.com writes: On 7/29/2011 7:21 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: I think the underlying problem is that there's a big gap between tertiary, which should be a road that really is used to go somewhere and residential, which more or

Re: [Tagging] highway=unclassified

2011-07-28 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/7/28 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com: 2011/7/27 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com Then I can't honestly grasp what this interconnecting network is. Or rather, I think I understand what you mean, but you're not defining it - you're describing it with a vague term. to

Re: [Tagging] highway=unclassified

2011-07-28 Thread Nathan Edgars II
If there was any practical difference between residential and unclassified, the TIGER import ignored that in the US by using residential for everything unimportant. So when I map I treat residential as unclassified with mainly residential abutters, and will sometimes change TIGER residentials

Re: [Tagging] highway=unclassified

2011-07-28 Thread Dave F.
On 27/07/2011 22:37, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2011/7/27 Simone Saviolosimone.savi...@gmail.com: 2011/7/27 M∡rtin Koppenhoeferdieterdre...@gmail.com Maybe I'm being picky. What I mean is: we have a worldwide graph of roads, or a network if we want to call it that. A grid network, to me, sounds

[Tagging] highway=unclassified

2011-07-27 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
I wonder if this definition which was formerly part of the description for highway=unclassified is still valid: Unclassified roads typically form the lowest form of the interconnecting grid network. It was removed here (Tidying up the struck bits):

Re: [Tagging] highway=unclassified

2011-07-27 Thread Simone Saviolo
2011/7/27 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com I wonder if this definition which was formerly part of the description for highway=unclassified is still valid: Unclassified roads typically form the lowest form of the interconnecting grid network. It was removed here (Tidying up the

Re: [Tagging] highway=unclassified

2011-07-27 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/7/27 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com: IMHO, it's a sentence that is both unclear and wrong. Interconnecting grid network has no significance: if it wasn't interconnecting it wouldn't be a network, and a grid network is just a specific case of a network but the unclassified applies

Re: [Tagging] highway=unclassified

2011-07-27 Thread Simone Saviolo
2011/7/27 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com 2011/7/27 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com: IMHO, it's a sentence that is both unclear and wrong. Interconnecting grid network has no significance: if it wasn't interconnecting it wouldn't be a network, and a grid network is

Re: [Tagging] highway=unclassified

2011-07-27 Thread Richard Mann
When I had a go at re-writing it, I tried to give some clarity on the boundaries with adjacent values (residential, tertiary, track) - without being too country-specific. I'm not sure that the deleted sentence is particularly helpful, so I'd leave it out on the keep-it-simple principle.

Re: [Tagging] highway=unclassified

2011-07-27 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/7/27 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com: 2011/7/27 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com Maybe I'm being picky. What I mean is: we have a worldwide graph of roads, or a network if we want to call it that. A grid network, to me, sounds like an orthogonal grid, like the one you'd

Re: [Tagging] highway=unclassified

2011-07-27 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/7/27 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com: When I had a go at re-writing it, I tried to give some clarity on the boundaries with adjacent values (residential, tertiary, track) - Yes, but on the other hand deleting the cited part changed the definition and made it more difficult

Re: [Tagging] highway=unclassified

2011-07-27 Thread Richard Mann
The problem is that it ain't that simple. Quite a lot of unclassifieds don't go anywhere much, and aren't really part of the connected network. An unclassified isn't necessarily higher in the hierarchy than a residential. On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:51 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer

Re: [Tagging] highway=unclassified

2011-07-27 Thread Simone Saviolo
2011/7/27 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com 2011/7/27 Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com: Of course, the roads are interconnecting, otherwise it wouldn't be a network. I thought this was a common term in English, but as I am not a native speaker I might be wrong Neither