Re: holy shit change the subject...Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-23 Thread Jim via Talk
Hi there GUYS! Come on now folks and lets remember what the purpose of this list is, Need I remind all? Just back off the nastiness and lets start disgussing W.E. andtechnology again..! Jim, . On 23-May-16 18:43, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi Gorge, I suppose if you

RE: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-23 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Nice one, marc! I am all behind you, AI Squared! -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 3:58 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List; Helen Murphy Subject: Re: Searching from the

RE: holy poo change the subject...Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-23 Thread Marc Solomon via Talk
And, just in case my daughter gets hold of my phone, I am modifying the subject just slightly in an effort to keep it G. Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On May 23, 2016 6:56:11 PM Ai2 wrote: > I second the motion. Keep up the great work Rod. >

RE: holy shit change the subject...Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-23 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
Lol? What a subject line. Darrell Bowles Assistive Technology Trainer Pelissippi State Community College 8656613917 -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dgbowles=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 6:59 PM To:

RE: holy shit change the subject...Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-23 Thread Marc Solomon via Talk
I second the motion. Keep up the great work Rod. Marc Sent with AquaMail for Android http://www.aqua-mail.com On May 23, 2016 6:55:24 PM Don Smith via Talk wrote: > Wow, Rod is the last guy that needs advice. > > If you chaps and girls look back on the list you

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-23 Thread Marc Solomon via Talk
Stephen and all other list members, I work for Ai Squared but what I am about to write are my own personal thoughts. Ai Squared's most important job is making computers, applications and Web pages accessible for our customers. As you know this is not a trivial task and requires a team effort

RE: holy shit change the subject...Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-23 Thread Don Smith via Talk
Wow, Rod is the last guy that needs advice. If you chaps and girls look back on the list you will see that Rod has given so much good counsell that I would suggest he does not need any guidance from below. Don ___ Any views or opinions presented in

RE: holy shit change the subject...Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-23 Thread george basioli via Talk
Well like the subject says and then we would not have to hear all this crap because we would of know it was not reading. By the way rob, you need to drop it he mailed you off list like the guidelines say and then you copy it to the list. Why don't you all grow up, and if to be a mod you only

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-23 Thread Stephen Clark via Talk
OK, Mr. moderator Tom, explain why this is not a personal attack against me. Also, please explain where AI Squared is on all of this. Aren't they the true moderators? If they were doing their job it would have never reached this point. On 5/22/2016 9:49 PM, Helen Murphy via Talk wrote:

RE: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-23 Thread Smith, Veronica via Talk
Oh my goodness, it is a scary thought, but a lot of it might be true. Thanks for sharing! Veronica -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer via Talk Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:25 AM To: Nick Sarames;

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-23 Thread Jim via Talk
Hello there FOLKS! I have been a member of this list for quite some time now. I do see a lot of this sort of nonsense going on with other lists, but this is the first time I have actually seen it going on with this one. Personally I could care less what someone's anual income is, I thought

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-22 Thread Helen Murphy via Talk
WHAT DOES HE WANT A MEDAL HES ONE OF THOSE WE ALL PAID INTO THE SYSTEM IM GLAD U CLIPPED HIS WINGS THOSE KIND YOU WOULD JUST LOVE TO TELL THEM TO GO JUMP IN THE LAKE HE JUST RUBS ME THE WRONG WAY TOO TOM GOOD FOR YOU HELEN MURPHY On Sunday, May 22, 2016 9:33 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk

RE: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-22 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Stephen, I looked, and your comments were personal since you called him an old man and accused him of being unemployed and living on government cheques. You had no right to do this, and, yes, I feel that I am safe in calling myself a list moderator since I've been a list member for quite some

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-22 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
OK, I really don't know what he said, but here's the point. While I don't know who is righvt, Steve has yet to provide specific evidence to support his contension. On 5/22/2016 4:36 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote: I think he said updates, not upgrades, maybe you need to read more carefully?

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-22 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
I think he said updates, not upgrades, maybe you need to read more carefully? On 5/21/2016 4:35 PM, Stephen Clark via Talk wrote: I was not going to post anything more on this topic, but I read this and just couldn't let this go. Tom, you said this is the first time a Windows upgrade has been

RE: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-21 Thread Rod Hutton via Talk
Hi Tom, You are the wordsmith par excellence. Smile Keep 'em coming, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: May 18, 2016 10:31 PM To: Stephen Clark ;

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-21 Thread Stephen Clark via Talk
I was not going to post anything more on this topic, but I read this and just couldn't let this go. Tom, you said this is the first time a Windows upgrade has been free? LOL! This ignorance just proves once again you have no clue what you're talking about. MS has been releasing free upgrades

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-20 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
I'm no Microsoft fan. For those whose computers were updated to Windows 10 when they did not want it they had to confirm the process. And they had thirty days to revert back. Clicking on OK without reading what's on the screen is a common problem in the sighted world as well. There's a

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-20 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Be it that you answered your own question and that your vile manner doesn't deserve an answer I'll let that lie. But please inform me of the law that says every computer program on this planet must be accessible to the blind. I missed that one in the world governance hearings. On 5/20/2016

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-20 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Using the Cortana search box is your choice. Upgrading to Windows 10 is your choice. If your employer decides to move to Windows 10 that is their choice. Microsoft is pushing Windows 10 hard for very good business reasons. This is what businesses do and why for the first time a Windows upgrade

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-20 Thread Stephen Clark via Talk
Good for you, but you must not have the latest update or something. When I hit enter to go to the web from the start menu, the title bar says "Core Input" and Win-eyes will not read anything except the links when I tab around. I have checked and double checked that Internet Explorer is my

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-20 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
OK, I think I understand. You are not forced to use Windows. If you do use windows, you are not forced to upgrade (for a while). If you do upgrade, you do not have to use Cortana. Yet MS is forcing you to use edge? On 5/20/2016 1:40 PM, Stephen Clark via Talk wrote: Tom, I'm sorry, but you

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-20 Thread Stephen Clark via Talk
Tom, I'm sorry, but you just dont get it. My whole purpose in writing to the list was to point out an example where they *are* most definitely forcing you to use Edge. If you want to use Cortana and find something on the web. Of course you don't have to use this feature and no, I'm not having

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-20 Thread Curtis Delzer via Talk
I can't help but send this message here. It is . . . something, but does resonate with this topic. Read and throw away, or ponder it, or store it away, but it is, fascinating nonetheless. *Welcome to the exponential age!* In 1998, Kodak had 170,000 employees and sold 85% of all photo paper

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-20 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
You are acting as if you are required to purchase a Microsoft product. I'm sorry that not everything in our world is accessible to us. If you don't like what MS is doing you can look for another option. On 5/20/2016 2:29 AM, Kevin Barry via Talk wrote: you insist that Microsoft will

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-20 Thread Kevin Barry via Talk
you insist that Microsoft will eventually make edge accessible. Do you know this? And please, I am not asking for your wishful thinking. You know nothing of the kind, you were speaking out of a part of your body lower than your mouth. It is inexcusable, and really contrary to law, that this

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-19 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Butch, We still have mouse keys in Internet Explorer. It's one of the reasons IE is my default browser. So I'm not sure what you're missing. Yes, Amazon has become a bit dicey over the years. Then again, they have their accessible site as well. Regards, Tom On 5/19/2016 11:22 PM, Butch

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-19 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Stephen, I apologize for returning your attack. I should have turned the other cheek. I'll ask you one very simple question. Can you give me one single real world reason how lack of access to Edge today is impairing your ability to work or use your computer? I'll take your word that some

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-19 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
Not strange at all. From the beginning of man's existance, he has tried to manipulate his environment to suit his wants and needs. Man will continue to "progress" regardless of what each individual does. Maybe in 20 years, the internet as we know it, won't exist. On 5/20/2016 12:46 AM,

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-19 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
Strange comparison. Well, same old same old. Just because some folks love their i phones, they think it is the answer for every one. I don't think my car would go very far if I replaced its wheels with i phones. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Thu, 19 May 2016, Nick Sarames

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-19 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
This applies to everyone. It's how we got from the wheel to the iPhone. On 5/19/2016 11:22 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: Yep, and no matter what they come out with, we're told, upgrade, upgrade, this is better. I still miss mouse keys in explorer. I was trying to order some stuff on

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-19 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
Yep, and no matter what they come out with, we're told, upgrade, upgrade, this is better. I still miss mouse keys in explorer. I was trying to order some stuff on amazon this evening and couldn't get logged in, this was on a windows seven machine and latest explorer. I finally went back to

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-19 Thread Nick Sarames via Talk
Well at least we're having a rational discussion. On 5/19/2016 10:39 PM, Stephen Clark via Talk wrote: Well, old man, some of us aren't as old as you and if you think really really hard, maybe you can figure this one out as well. Some of us actually work for a living. This means not every one

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-19 Thread Bob Tinney via Talk
Steve, I just tried searching from the start menu by both typing in to the search menu and by using voice. Both methods brought up results in internet explorer which I have set as my default on my Windows 10 pro machine. Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-18 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Yes, in fact, Jack, I have done a lot of research. It's why I'm not having a coronary over Edge. What will come in the future means absolutely nothing today. Take that to the bank and deposit it. You may get some interest on it. Then again, why bother? After all we will all die one day. And

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-18 Thread Kevin Barry via Talk
The edge browser is inaccessible to every screen reader thanks to Microsoft forward thinking. I also cannot see how your question is at all relevant to this problem. On Thursday, May 19, 2016, Stephen Clark via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > You're entitled to your own opinion, but

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-18 Thread Bob Tinney via Talk
Hi, I have Internet Explorer set as my default browser in Windows 10 pro and when I search for a topic, internet explorer comes up with several answers. One place that always brings up Edge is when I try to use the Microsoft news app. I can read all of the headlines, but when I click on

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-18 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
This is just my personal opinion. So take it for what it's worth. Edge accessibility will come. Microsoft is not going to force us to use only Edge as someone on this list likes to say. Regarding searching from the Cortana search box? Yes, that is tied to Edge now. But for me, so what. My

Re: Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-18 Thread Stephen Clark via Talk
Since I only use Win-eyes for now I wouldn't know about other screen readers. However, my original message is not to be critical of Win-eyes. It's more out of frustration as to the direction that MS is going with Edge and if accessibility is not provided to it soon with in the near future I

Searching from the start menu will now only launch Edge for web results

2016-05-17 Thread Stephen Clark via Talk
Speaking of Windows 10 and the need for Window-eyes support for Edge, has any one noticed the following recent change? When you do a search from the start menu and you press enter to search the web for your result, it will now only bring up Edge regardless of what your default web browser is.