Hi there GUYS!
Come on now folks and lets remember what the purpose of this list is,
Need I remind all? Just back off the nastiness and lets start
disgussing W.E. andtechnology again..!
Jim, .
On 23-May-16 18:43, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote:
Hi Gorge,
I suppose if you
Nice one, marc! I am all behind you, AI Squared!
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Sent: Monday, May 23, 2016 3:58 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List; Helen Murphy
Subject: Re: Searching from the
And, just in case my daughter gets hold of my phone, I am modifying the subject
just slightly in an effort to keep it G.
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On May 23, 2016 6:56:11 PM Ai2 wrote:
> I second the motion. Keep up the great work Rod.
>
Lol?
What a subject line.
Darrell Bowles
Assistive Technology Trainer
Pelissippi State Community College
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To:
I second the motion. Keep up the great work Rod.
Marc
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On May 23, 2016 6:55:24 PM Don Smith via Talk
wrote:
> Wow, Rod is the last guy that needs advice.
>
> If you chaps and girls look back on the list you
Stephen and all other list members,
I work for Ai Squared but what I am about to write are my own personal
thoughts. Ai Squared's most important job is making computers, applications and
Web pages accessible for our customers. As you know this is not a trivial task
and requires a team effort
Wow, Rod is the last guy that needs advice.
If you chaps and girls look back on the list you will see that Rod has given
so much good counsell that I would suggest he does not need any guidance
from below.
Don
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Any views or opinions presented in
Well like the subject says and then we would not have to hear all this crap
because we would of know it was not reading.
By the way rob, you need to drop it he mailed you off list like the
guidelines say and then you copy it to the list.
Why don't you all grow up, and if to be a mod you only
OK, Mr. moderator Tom, explain why this is not a personal attack against me.
Also, please explain where AI Squared is on all of this. Aren't they the
true moderators? If they were doing their job it would have never
reached this point.
On 5/22/2016 9:49 PM, Helen Murphy via Talk wrote:
Oh my goodness, it is a scary thought, but a lot of it might be true. Thanks
for sharing! Veronica
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On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer via Talk
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2016 10:25 AM
To: Nick Sarames;
Hello there FOLKS!
I have been a member of this list for quite some time now. I do see a
lot of this sort of nonsense going on with other lists, but this is the
first time I have actually seen it going on with this one. Personally I
could care less what someone's anual income is, I thought
WHAT DOES HE WANT A MEDAL HES ONE OF THOSE WE ALL PAID INTO THE SYSTEM IM GLAD
U CLIPPED HIS WINGS THOSE KIND YOU WOULD JUST LOVE TO TELL THEM TO GO JUMP IN
THE LAKE HE JUST RUBS ME THE WRONG WAY TOO TOM GOOD FOR YOU HELEN MURPHY
On Sunday, May 22, 2016 9:33 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk
Stephen,
I looked, and your comments were personal since you called him an old man
and accused him of being unemployed and living on government cheques.
You had no right to do this, and, yes, I feel that I am safe in calling
myself a list moderator since I've been a list member for quite some
OK, I really don't know what he said, but here's the point. While I
don't know who is righvt, Steve has yet to provide specific evidence to
support his contension.
On 5/22/2016 4:36 AM, Nick Sarames via Talk wrote:
I think he said updates, not upgrades, maybe you need to read more
carefully?
I think he said updates, not upgrades, maybe you need to read more
carefully?
On 5/21/2016 4:35 PM, Stephen Clark via Talk wrote:
I was not going to post anything more on this topic, but I read this and
just couldn't let this go. Tom, you said this is the first time a
Windows upgrade has been
Hi Tom,
You are the wordsmith par excellence. Smile
Keep 'em coming,
Rod
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Of Tom Kingston via Talk
Sent: May 18, 2016 10:31 PM
To: Stephen Clark ;
I was not going to post anything more on this topic, but I read this and
just couldn't let this go. Tom, you said this is the first time a
Windows upgrade has been free? LOL! This ignorance just proves once
again you have no clue what you're talking about. MS has been releasing
free upgrades
I'm no Microsoft fan. For those whose computers were updated to Windows
10 when they did not want it they had to confirm the process. And they
had thirty days to revert back. Clicking on OK without reading what's on
the screen is a common problem in the sighted world as well.
There's a
Be it that you answered your own question and that your vile manner
doesn't deserve an answer I'll let that lie. But please inform me of the
law that says every computer program on this planet must be accessible
to the blind. I missed that one in the world governance hearings.
On 5/20/2016
Using the Cortana search box is your choice. Upgrading to Windows 10 is
your choice. If your employer decides to move to Windows 10 that is
their choice. Microsoft is pushing Windows 10 hard for very good
business reasons. This is what businesses do and why for the first time
a Windows upgrade
Good for you, but you must not have the latest update or something. When
I hit enter to go to the web from the start menu, the title bar says
"Core Input" and Win-eyes will not read anything except the links when I
tab around. I have checked and double checked that Internet Explorer is
my
OK, I think I understand. You are not forced to use Windows. If you do
use windows, you are not forced to upgrade (for a while). If you do
upgrade, you do not have to use Cortana. Yet MS is forcing you to use edge?
On 5/20/2016 1:40 PM, Stephen Clark via Talk wrote:
Tom, I'm sorry, but you
Tom, I'm sorry, but you just dont get it. My whole purpose in writing to
the list was to point out an example where they *are* most definitely
forcing you to use Edge. If you want to use Cortana and find something
on the web. Of course you don't have to use this feature and no, I'm not
having
I can't help but send this message here. It is . . . something, but does
resonate with this topic.
Read and throw away, or ponder it, or store it away, but it is,
fascinating nonetheless.
*Welcome to the exponential age!*
In 1998, Kodak had 170,000 employees and sold 85% of all photo paper
You are acting as if you are required to purchase a Microsoft product.
I'm sorry that not everything in our world is accessible to us. If you
don't like what MS is doing you can look for another option.
On 5/20/2016 2:29 AM, Kevin Barry via Talk wrote:
you insist that Microsoft will
you insist that Microsoft will eventually make edge accessible. Do you know
this? And please, I am not asking for your wishful thinking.
You know nothing of the kind, you were speaking out of a part of your body
lower than your mouth.
It is inexcusable, and really contrary to law, that this
Butch,
We still have mouse keys in Internet Explorer. It's one of the reasons
IE is my default browser. So I'm not sure what you're missing.
Yes, Amazon has become a bit dicey over the years. Then again, they have
their accessible site as well.
Regards,
Tom
On 5/19/2016 11:22 PM, Butch
Stephen,
I apologize for returning your attack. I should have turned the other cheek.
I'll ask you one very simple question. Can you give me one single real
world reason how lack of access to Edge today is impairing your ability
to work or use your computer?
I'll take your word that some
Not strange at all. From the beginning of man's existance, he has tried
to manipulate his environment to suit his wants and needs. Man will
continue to "progress" regardless of what each individual does. Maybe
in 20 years, the internet as we know it, won't exist.
On 5/20/2016 12:46 AM,
Strange comparison. Well, same old same old. Just because some folks
love their i phones, they think it is the answer for every one. I don't
think my car would go very far if I replaced its wheels with i phones.
73
Butch
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On
Thu, 19 May 2016, Nick Sarames
This applies to everyone. It's how we got from the wheel to the iPhone.
On 5/19/2016 11:22 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote:
Yep, and no matter what they come out with, we're told, upgrade,
upgrade, this is better. I still miss mouse keys in explorer. I was
trying to order some stuff on
Yep, and no matter what they come out with, we're told, upgrade,
upgrade, this is better. I still miss mouse keys in explorer. I was
trying to order some stuff on amazon this evening and couldn't get
logged in, this was on a windows seven machine and latest explorer. I
finally went back to
Well at least we're having a rational discussion.
On 5/19/2016 10:39 PM, Stephen Clark via Talk wrote:
Well, old man, some of us aren't as old as you and if you think really
really hard, maybe you can figure this one out as well. Some of us
actually work for a living. This means not every one
Steve,
I just tried searching from the start menu by both typing in to the
search menu and by using voice. Both methods brought up results in
internet explorer which I have set as my default on my Windows 10 pro
machine.
Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net
Yes, in fact, Jack, I have done a lot of research. It's why I'm not
having a coronary over Edge. What will come in the future means
absolutely nothing today. Take that to the bank and deposit it. You may
get some interest on it. Then again, why bother? After all we will all
die one day. And
The edge browser is inaccessible to every screen reader thanks to Microsoft
forward thinking.
I also cannot see how your question is at all relevant to this problem.
On Thursday, May 19, 2016, Stephen Clark via Talk <
talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
> You're entitled to your own opinion, but
Hi,
I have Internet Explorer set as my default browser in Windows 10 pro and
when I search for a topic, internet explorer comes up with several
answers. One place that always brings up Edge is when I try to use the
Microsoft news app. I can read all of the headlines, but when I click
on
This is just my personal opinion. So take it for what it's worth.
Edge accessibility will come. Microsoft is not going to force us to use
only Edge as someone on this list likes to say.
Regarding searching from the Cortana search box? Yes, that is tied to
Edge now. But for me, so what. My
Since I only use Win-eyes for now I wouldn't know about other screen
readers. However, my original message is not to be critical of Win-eyes.
It's more out of frustration as to the direction that MS is going with
Edge and if accessibility is not provided to it soon with in the near
future I
Speaking of Windows 10 and the need for Window-eyes support for Edge,
has any one noticed the following recent change? When you do a search
from the start menu and you press enter to search the web for your
result, it will now only bring up Edge regardless of what your default
web browser is.
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