Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Raul A. Gallegos via Talk
Hi Darrell, I believe you have around 4 or 5 options. Let me know if I can be of assistance in helping you find the option which will best fit your needs. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email:

Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Ted Larson via Talk
When I start to learn Jaws, I do not want to keep switching back and forth between my application and an online manual. Can I get the manual on cd and play it on a cd player? Or, can I download the manual to a talking book cartridge or flash drive and play it on my talking book

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Hi Ted: There’s good news on this one. JAWS supplies most of its training materials in DAISY format. They can be downloaded through the FS Reader program which comes with JAWS.The training materials are also supplied on the JAWS DVD.There’s over 11 hours of basic training material

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Raul A. Gallegos via Talk
Hi, this is not true. What about other browsers like Firefox and Chrome? There is always choice. -- Raul A. Gallegos Assistive Technology Trainer - RGA Tech Solutions Voice and Text: 832.554.7285 Office: 832.639.4477 Personal Email: r...@raulgallegos.com Work Email: train...@rgats.com Twitter:

RE: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
So, blind people shouldn’t need to use a cane to get around. We shouldn’t need a guide dog either. Sighted people just walk around all day. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 2:39 PM To: Dennis Long; Window-Eyes Discussion

RE: Jaws-key, can it be remapped?

2017-05-16 Thread Kevin Minor via Talk
Hi. Here's how to change the JAWS key to the CAPS LOCK key. Hit INSERT+J. In your setup the INSERT key is the JAWS key. Go to the options menu. If you have JAWS running in the system tray, you'll land on this menu choice. This is how I run JAWS. I'm not sure what JAWS looks like if not

RE: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
You get it from yourdolphin.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Kurlander Richard (75) via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 12:28 PM To: Armando Maldonado; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: whole migrating

RE: Window-Eyes users in the UK

2017-05-16 Thread Doug Geoffray via Talk
Hello John and others, I've just been informed that if you are in the U.K. or Australia you may submit your request to migrate to JAWS in the same manner as those in the U.S. Meaning simply go to: http://www.gwmicro.com/window-eyes/migrate/ Read about your options and click on the migrate

Jaws and Thunderbird threaded messages

2017-05-16 Thread Brenda via Talk
Hello List, I'm trying to transition to Jaws starting with emailing which I am getting a lot of experience on lately. I find with Jaws I have to view messages as threaded which I don't like. Is there a way to read messages as unthreaded. Jaws doesn't seem to read the titles unless

Re: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Carol and Roger via Talk
Hi Joseph, I did as you stated, but I could not download the files. Also, I could not access anything from the links. The only file was the very first one, getting started. Carol On 5/16/2017 4:35 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: Hi: I haven’t gotten that far, as far as migration.

Re: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Bryan Peterson via Talk
Are there audio versions? I was able to download a bok as an experiment but it was only text. I find I learn these types of things better if I have audio, and I remember when I got my first ever copy of JFW the set of training tapes that came with them. Focus your powers and prepare for

Re: wineyes to jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Russ Kiehne via Talk
It's going to cost a lot more money to maintain jaws. -Original Message- From: brice Mijares via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 8:25 AM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: wineyes to jaws I'm not happy wineyes is going away, but I'm surely glad it's not costing me to make the

Re: Thank you

2017-05-16 Thread Martha via Talk
My thanks to all WE staff, too. Here's hoping that VFO takes a lesson from you with regards to tech support... Martha On Tue, 16 May 2017 07:51:26 -0400 Brian Moore via Talk wrote: I do as well. As a very happy Window-eyes user for any years, I want to offer

Re: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Kevin Huber via Talk
Hi Richard: We have to realize that Change happens whether we like it or not, and we have to get used to it. Many people did not like when DOS was fazed out, if you remember, but we had to adapt and most of us did. I don't think that anybody intentionally sold anybody down the river. It's just

Re: Migration of Features?

2017-05-16 Thread Marvin Commerford via Talk
We'll have to see if pieces of WE find there way into JFW. Don't hold your breath. In the first place there would have to be some recognition that WE has some things that may be better than they are in JFW. I'm not convinced that there's such recognition. They didn't buy AI Squared to pick

RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread Kurlander Richard (750000) via Talk
I don't like that either if this what does happen. I use outlook 2013 at work part of office 365 and at home I still use Eudora 7.1.9 for my client e-mail and I have also outlook set up as I have also office 365 at home. Don't you feel that screne readers should be made as simple as possible?

Re: migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Orlando Enrique Fiol via Talk
At 05:11 PM 5/16/2017, Loy via Talk wrote: >There is nothing free, someone has to pay for it. You can't expect a company like GWMicro to provide WE to blind people. free. However a company like Microsoft could develope a screen reader where all blind people could have access, the cost could be

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Get your facts straight! Doug and Dan did not sell anything to VFO. They merged with AI Squared who waited a year before selling their soul to the shark. It is their CEO who is now a VP at VFO. Tap into your Ph.D. candidacy to see if you can figure out the sympathetic resonances in this

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
I’m not sure what’s going on there. If you press Enter on the link, it should say “downloading book”. Then, it will install the book. It may ask for administrator permission since it puts the book in the JAWS install directory under Training. You can download training materials using your

Re: Question RE: Future Of Window-Eyes

2017-05-16 Thread Natalie via Talk
Do you know if there is any braille backup for how to deal with JAWS? WindowEyes was really good with that. I'd hate to have to braille all of the changes although guess I can. Natalie On 5/16/2017 11:16 AM, Doug Geoffray via Talk wrote: Karen, Currently we don't have any plans on

Re: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Bob Tinney via Talk
Hi, I just installed Jaws 18, and I ended up with 9 programs! Bloatware to be sure! Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 5/16/2017 5:17 PM, Joseph Norton via Talk wrote: FS stands for Freedom Scientific. The parent company that sells JAWS is VFO Group. They haven’t changed the name of the

Re: migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Tom Kingston via Talk
Your completely uninformed posts are really making a fool of yourself. Window-Eyes was JAWS number one competitor and now they own it. They're doing exactly what any business with three or more working brain cells in its employ would do: eliminate it. This is how things work in the real world.

RE: Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration

2017-05-16 Thread Andre via Talk
Hi Sky, WWhere do you get Dave's historical account from? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+stepserve=comcast@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 11:20 AM To: 'CJ MAY'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE:

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Natalie via Talk
I'm curious. When they sold to A.I. Squared did they realize this would appen ? Just curious. I know big eats small but is AI Squared really a company or a shell? Natalie Johnson On 5/16/2017 5:56 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: Get your facts straight! Doug and Dan did not sell

Re: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive?

2017-05-16 Thread brice Mijares via Talk
Anyone that refuses this offer to switch over to Jaws essentially for free is flippen nuts. Grow up youngsters! ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For

Re: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Matthew Chao via Talk
If Microsoft really wanted to push product and promote customer goodwill (not that they need to do that), they'd follow Apple's lead and make Windows more accessible out of the box. I'm not happy about the Window-Eyes debacle, nor the monoply that VFO appears to be creating. Perhaps we as a

Re: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Singing Sparrow via Talk
narrator first started in windows xp I remember me and my mother talking to microsoft at the time and we actually got to speak with bill gates about putting speech into windows which I am glad he had taken the idea and put speech into windows. On 5/16/2017 3:25 PM, John Farley via Talk

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Darrell Bowles via Talk
In windows XP, narrator was very simple. But actually, near raider started in windows 2000. Look at windows 10, particularly the creators update, and narrator is not as simple as it once was. Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Singing Sparrow via Talk >

RE: Migration of Features?

2017-05-16 Thread Orlando Enrique Fiol via Talk
At 04:05 PM 5/16/2017, Amanda Lee via Talk wrote: >I totally agree here. All of this is so bittersweet. I was here at work >and it was difficult not to cry. I have worked with various of the staff at >GW Micro closely over the years on beta testing and qualified an agency for >the blind as a

Re: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Hudson via Talk
FS stands for freedom scientific, and they were bought out by this new group called VF oh group Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

RE: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Orlando Enrique Fiol via Talk
>So, no monopoly here, yet. Just business. >The same thing happened in the Long Distance and local phone markets. >The AT field is no different, whether we like it or not. Your analogy is somewhat flawed because long distance telephone carriers provided the exact same service. Whether you used

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Vaughan Dodd via Talk
You are correct: no physical media. I didn't ask for it though, so maybe if I had ... But for me: installing software off disks is obsolete.It can take six weeks for stuff to come here from the States, and I remember being very annoyed with the old GW, Ai over this very point. But:

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Sky Mundell via Talk
Intresting Vaughn because when I got my copy of Window-Eyes 7.2, they sent me a downloadable link and the CD for it. I really am greatful for what GWMicro has done for blind people and they should be commended for their efforts. As far as JAWS, when I got JAWS 14 in 2013, I got both a

Re: FW: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Loy via Talk
There is nothing free, someone has to pay for it. You can't expect a company like GWMicro to provide WE to blind people. free. However a company like Microsoft could develope a screen reader where all blind people could have access, the cost could be spread acros millions of Windows user and

Re: a question about window-eyes for office

2017-05-16 Thread Norene Trappa via Talk
Hi, Will office 2013 work with Jaws? Norene -Original Message- From: Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 5:08 PM To: Mike Bernard ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: a question about window-eyes for office Hi: The free Office version is perfectly safe.

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
FS stands for Freedom Scientific. The parent company that sells JAWS is VFO Group. They haven’t changed the name of the DAISY reader since they were Freedom Scientific. This is not the first time a program name indicated its origin. Another example is the word processor that comes with

Re: a question about window-eyes for office

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Hudson via Talk
Not with the latest version. You will need Office 2016 in order to get it to work. Joseph Hudson Email jhud7...@gmail.com I device support Telephone 2543007667 Skype joseph.hudson89 facebook https://www.facebook.com/joseph.hudson.9404 Twitter https://twitter.com/josephhudson89

Re: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Singing Sparrow via Talk
well, even though it started in window s 2000 we still did talk to bill gates to get him to start putting speech into windows. On 5/16/2017 4:06 PM, Darrell Bowles wrote: In windows XP, narrator was very simple. But actually, near raider started in windows 2000. Look at windows 10,

RE: whole migrating situation

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
At first, it may not seem a good analogy, but, the various long-distance companies offered features and other value added services that differed, one from another. There were also software companies who’s programs were thrown out by acquisitions. Take PowerQuest. They offered Partition

RE: a question about window-eyes for office

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
It should work fine. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Norene Trappa Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:14 PM To: Joseph Norton; Mike Bernard; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: a question about window-eyes for office Hi, Will office 2013 work with Jaws? Norene -Original

RE: a question about window-eyes for office

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Yes it will work -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Norene Trappa via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:14 PM To: Joseph Norton; Mike Bernard; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: a question about window-eyes

Re: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive?

2017-05-16 Thread Butch Bussen via Talk
As I understand it, this was suggested and pushed for, but the powers that be at vfo said no. 73 Butch WA0VJR Node 3148 Wallace, ks. On Tue, 16 May 2017, Loy via Talk wrote: Being there is thousands of WE users to convert over to JAWS, it would be good if there could develope a Window Eyes

RE: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive?

2017-05-16 Thread Paulette Vickery via Talk
Just the same, since you don't have to stop using WE, I would get Jaws while it is free and before they change their minds. You don't have to use it right now, just get it while it is free! Paulette -Original Message- From: Talk

RE: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive?

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
They should offer it. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Butch Bussen via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 7:18 PM To: Loy; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive? As I

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2017-05-16 Thread Heewon Chun via Talk
unsubscribe -- Heewon Chun ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit

Re: Is Migration to Jaws Time-sensitive?

2017-05-16 Thread Natalie via Talk
But what happened to such an easy-to communicate probram? We should have paid more than the institutions who got it all. We lost. Natalie On 5/16/2017 7:17 PM, Butch Bussen via Talk wrote: As I understand it, this was suggested and pushed for, but the powers that be at vfo said no. 73

WE and firefox 64 bit

2017-05-16 Thread Don H via Talk
I installed firefox 64 bit on my Win 10 64 bit machine and find that when using it WE has no browse mode. Does this mean that WE is already becoming obsolete in keeping up with change? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely

RE: WE and firefox 64 bit

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Yes you should take the jaws offer as soon as possible. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Don H via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:13 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: WE and firefox 64 bit I

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Hi: Here’s something I I just learned about these downloads on the training page. They are executable files that automatically install into your JAWS program directory. They do ask for administrator priveleges, then, they install and exit. So, if you do download them, just remember they go

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Joseph Norton via Talk
Oh, one more thing. These are full DAISY text and audio. The mp3’s are in each subfolder under C:\Program Files\Freedom Scientific\Training Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Bryan Peterson Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 9:51 PM To: Carol and Roger; Joseph Norton; Window-Eyes Discussion List

RE: Learning Jaws

2017-05-16 Thread Dennis Long via Talk
Can you manually delete them when your done with them? -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 10:26 PM To: Bryan Peterson; Carol and Roger; Window-Eyes Discussion List

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