Re: The future of Window-eyes

Thank you Tom for being constructive as ever. We must talk to people assuming that they are concerned about the purpose of their product, rather than simply looking for a means of maximising their revenue. Talking to the latter is pointless, so let's at least assume that there is, in the policy

Re: here's how to disable plug ins in firefox

Thanks for all the help. I was able to disable the plugin in Firefox and IE. I have discovered that a site I use in IE requires it, so I will disable and reenable as needed. -Original Message- From: mcleod stinnett via Talk Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2016 4:41 AM To: talk Subject:

RE: NVDA link

Hello. The link for nvda is www.nvda-project.org Note: the voices that it comes with our robotic, but that can be easally changed. There are free speech synthesizer addons for nvda as well as paid addons. Their's even a Eloquence Addon you can get for it. -Original Message- From: Talk

Re: NVDA link

Have you tried a Google search? On 10/4/2016 12:07 AM, Linette Sukup via Talk wrote: > > > Obviously, my membership on this list shows where my loyalties are. > However, just in case I need it, I would like to have a link from which > to get NVDA. Could someone send me one? > Thank you. > >

NVDA link

Obviously, my membership on this list shows where my loyalties are. However, just in case I need it, I would like to have a link from which to get NVDA. Could someone send me one? Thank you. Peace. Linette ___ Any views or opinions presented in

RE: The future of Window-eyes

Exactly right, Nick. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Nick Sarames via Talk Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 8:38 PM To: Tom Kingston; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Chris Skarstad Subject: Re: The future of Window-eyes It

Re: The future of Window-eyes

It may also help to explain (rationally) why you think Jaws is an inferior product (without saying you think it is inferior). Mention what you'd like your screen reader to be able to do. On 10/3/2016 11:33 PM, Tom Kingston via Talk wrote: > This thread is fine. We all need to vent. But the

Re: The future of Window-eyes

This thread is fine. We all need to vent. But the most productive thing we can do is to let VFO know how we feel. I would encourage all of you to take a deep breath, sit down, and spend some time writing a serious letter to the folks at VFO. Make it professional and courteous, outlining your

RE: Data Bases

Hi Dave. I don't know of a good databass software that works with Window-eyes, but I can tell you that our JAWS dealer, has a custom-built designed databass that works exclusively with JAWS and nothing else. -Original Message- From: Talk

RE: The future of Window-eyes

RJ, where have you been? Dan is gone from GW Micro and A I Squared! He retired, may be forced, may be not; but he is long gone! Marc Solomon is also gone, in his case to greener pastures! Gone all the same. If this remains a speculation on our part, I am quite happy to lead the loyal

RE: The future of Window-eyes

Sky, did I hear you mention A I Squared? Are they still squared, or, better still, are they still squaring? I better begin learning how to use NVDA, Window-Eyes MAY NOT KEEP ME employed for much longer. I wonder whether or not GW Micro could be resuscitated and pulled out of V F O? Hmm, not

Data Bases

Hello, OK, I already know that Window Eyes tend sto Suck when it comes to reading Powerful Databases. do any of you use WE with any Good Database software? And if so, which one? And do any of you know if NVDA or JAWS is able to read and be used in Databases? Again, could you give me the

Re: The future of Window-eyes

I am not Fearful of Window Eyes going away. With that being said, I would rather have a Head's Up about a coming event, rather than find out suddenly that 9.5 is the last version of Window Eyes and after another 6 months, there will be no more support etc. And then getting an Email telling me

Re: The future of Window-eyes

To the extend of my understanding, NVDA will never have a charge. Think it is developed under the GPL (General Public License), which institutes it will never, and can never, be sold as a commercial product. It will have to be offered for free, long as it exists. Only way for them to raise

Re: Talk Digest, Vol 600, Issue 1

ok On 10/3/16, via Talk wrote: > Send Talk mailing list submissions to > talk@lists.window-eyes.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > or, via email, send a

Re: The future of Window-eyes

I will use window eyes until I can't. Then, I don't know what I'll do, but I don't expect I will go with Apple anything. Because in reality, we don't know how long that will be. Pam. -Original Message- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 6:28 PM To: Vaughan Dodd ;

RE: The future of Window-eyes

Exactly right, Chris. NVDA is certainly a wonderful alternative to Window-eyes and JAWS. However, the problem for me is trying to get NVDA into institutions here in Canada. Institutions are paranoid about OpenSorce solutions, at least here in Canada. However, The Samfransisco Lighthouse for the

RE: The future of Window-eyes

Ok, sounds good, but, watch when wegoes down, there will be a charge for ndva, wait and see Don ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership

Re: The future of Window-eyes

You are completely forgetting NVDA which is a free option, and it's actually a screenreader worth using. it's not a toy a couple people put together, it actually works a lot better than a lot of folks think. So, if Window-eyes does eventually stop being developed, there is absolutely no

Re: The future of Window-eyes

It is going to be a hard decision when the time comes to pay $1000.00 for JAWS or spend that same money for a Apple based laptop. On 10/3/2016 5:23 PM, Vaughan Dodd via Talk wrote: But others within the VFO group can speak about the future of JFW, and there is clealry some integration between

RE: The future of Window-eyes

But others within the VFO group can speak about the future of JFW, and there is clealry some integration between JFW developments and plans involving Zoomtext, which is an AI Squared product. And yes: this is speculation caused by uncertainty. I'm glad we are having this discussion. Vaughan.

Re: The future of Window-eyes

None of us, probably not even the guys at AI Squared are even able to speak about the future of Window-eyes until it is time to do so. So all this thread really does is create what some in the online world call fud. Fear, uncertainty and doubt. On 10/3/2016 4:54 PM, Loy via Talk wrote:

The future of Window-eyes

I disagree that Window Eyes has been a rip off. It has been well worth what I have paid. You can't expect someone to develop a product like WE and not get a fair return. The developers of NVDA are volunteers who do not depend on this for their livelihood. i totally agree with you, let’s all

Re: The future of Window-eyes

I think that Microsoft is the one who is subsidizes the Window Eyes for Office. - Original Message - From: Vaughan Dodd via Talk To: 'Reeva Webb' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 3:55 PM Subject: RE: The future of Window-eyes Yes: paying

Re: The future of Window-eyes

As another paying customer, I, too expect results - up-to-date and bulletproof software. If GW is absorbed into JAWS, not enough competition, which in turn, means little or no attempt at innovation. And guess what? The customer gets lost in the shuffle. Just my thoughts on monoplies, just

RE: The future of Window-eyes

Yes, NVDA is a fantastic product and it'll get better and better. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of john pitts via Talk Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 6:06 AM To: Martin Brown; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: The

RE: The future of Window-eyes

RJ: actually - we do have a right to express opinions, and many of us do actulaly know what we are talking about. So: let me correct some of your comments: Dan retired recently, and he was suitably acknowledged and recognised for his contribution. Doug is still (as far as I know) involved

RE: The future of Window-eyes

Hi Rick. I am a Window-eyes owner, and user, and use the office version of Window-eyes. I completely agree with you about what could happen. I was only telling you guys just to let you know what was going to happen. You are absolutely right Rick that it is not encouraging to window-Eyes users like

RE: The future of Window-eyes

Yes: paying customers do have certain rights, one of which to complain. I'm in that paying customer group, who subsidise the Window-eyes for Office programme, and actually, as a paying customer, get less and less of what I've paid for. As our numbers diminish, so Window-eyes becomes less

Re: The future of Window-eyes

Yes, he did.--Matthew Chao On 10/3/2016 2:19 PM, via Talk wrote: Wait a second. Didn't Dan retire? I'm pretty sure he did. Pam. -Original Message- From: RJ Sandefur via Talk Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 10:51 AM To: mattc...@verizon.net ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject:

Re: closing the settings menu

General, Startup options, Show notification icon in the notification area instead of the task bar. Hth, Tom On 10/3/2016 12:27 PM, Grant Metcalf via Talk wrote: Greetings listers, After adjusting some settings for Window-Eyes 9.5.3 I have been finding the heading “windw-eyes –

closing the settings menu

Greetings listers, After adjusting some settings for Window-Eyes 9.5.3 I have been finding the heading “windw-eyes – explorerframe.set” when I alt-tab through the open documents and directories. How can I close this so that it does not keep appearing? Grant

Re: The future of Window-eyes

Didn't Dan retire? And Doug is probably told to keep his lips sealed. And isn't it fun to wildly speculate the demise of our Screen Reading software, which will force us all to choose between NVDA, which doesn't offer near the features or capability, or JAWS, that will cost you money you

RE: The future of Window-eyes

Hi: OK, so it might, or not, go away and the choices are obvious. There isnt anything any of us can do but to be prepared as with any technology that may change, be replaced with something new or just be depricated. As for getting notified it would be a nice thing to do but the guys at the old

the future of Window-Eyes

Gentlemen, it all comes down to this, capitalistic propaganda. The more pricy stuff gets, the more money comes out of our pockets, and goes into the company's. Yes I understand that they are trying to run a business, but there has to be a balance somewhere. Like many of you, I've been a loyal

Re: The future of Window-eyes

If it were to go away, I'll make sure I have a copy on CD and I'll continue to use it until technology changes so It won't work any more. At that point I'll use NVDA, I will not use JAWS! - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson via Talk To: RJ Sandefur ; mattc...@verizon.net ;

Re: The future of Window-eyes

Good point Bob. As much as this merger worries me I'm trying not to worry too much. -Original Message- From: RJ Sandefur via Talk Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 8:51 AM To: mattc...@verizon.net ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: The future of Window-eyes You all have know

Re: The future of Window-eyes

You all have know idea what you're talking about. Stop asuming things. Window eyes is not going away! If it wire, I think Doug or Dan would let us know! RJ On 10/3/2016 10:36 AM, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote: > I'm sure they will hear an earful from those of us who like and use > Window-Eyes.

Getting Rid of the Ribbon inb Windows 10

Hi, Folks. Is there any way I can get rid of the darn ribbon in Windows 10? It's driving me nuts. Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent

Re: The future of Window-eyes

I'm sure they will hear an earful from those of us who like and use Window-Eyes. And yes, it's my money, and I want a good product. Perhaps there should be more transparency as to what they plan to do. Tell me straight, and I'll make my own decisions with my feet and my wallet.--Matthew

Re: The future of Window-eyes

Not enough competition. Am I hearing "monoply"? I don't like the current fact that you're allowed so many copies per license. And if your computer crashes, too bad for you. With Window-Eyes, didn't have to worry about that. In any event, guess we'll have to wait and see. On the other

Re: The future of Window-eyes

Countdown to the demise of we y'all. I been calling it, we and fusion will be killed, magic will be put to it's deserved death fs always knew magic sucked and was a complete joke. The shark and zt will be made to work together and we'll be offered oh, so great upgrade pricing sarcasm. Of course

RE: The future of Window-eyes

Hi Sky: They are a Financial Company, not a technical company so are likely trying to build something they can offload to another party. There are 2 approaches: One is to combine WindowEyes into JAWS or just get rid of WindowEyes and market jaws as the only really professional screen reader

RE: The last three security updates still causing problems

Hi: From the sounds of it it sounds like it may be a folder permissions issue. One fellow copied and pasted the shortcut into another folder he knew was setup correctly and that shortcut did not bring up any security issues as it did when in the favorites folder. Just a thought since this problem

RE: Any one here use Google Drive?

Hi, If you have a way to digitize the documents, you can surely store them in Google Drive. You can do it through the web browser or you can download the little app that gets installed on the computer. This will let you browse your google drive through Windows Explorer. Chris

Re: The future of Window-eyes

If I'm stuck with using JAWS, I hope someone comes out with a alternate keyboard layout for NVDA to make it use all of the same hot keys as Window Eyes. -Original Message- From: Sky Mundell via Talk Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2016 8:04 PM To: 'Butch Bussen' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion

Any one here use Google Drive?

Good morning, I have recently been voted to be the Treasurer of our little club. I now have in my possession about 46 years of documents. I was considering trying to digitize all these records and store them in the google drive. I think I want to do this for the reasons of ease of access and to

Re: The future of Window-eyes

If Window-Eyes is rolled in to Jaws, I will stop using W-E and go with NVDA and Narrator. Bob, K8LR, tinn...@charter.net On 10/3/2016 8:29 AM, Matthew Chao via Talk wrote: Keep this stuff up, and they'll drive more people to the Mac. I've never liked FS's attitudes regarding marketing and

Re: The future of Window-eyes

i totally agree with you, let’s all use NVDA, and off the rip off merchants. From: Martin Brown via Talk Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 1:18 PM To: 'Sky Mundell' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: The future of Window-eyes Hello Sky. I have listened to both podcasts, and would not be

Re: No emails

I got this. Pam. -Original Message- From: Mike Rogers via Talk Sent: Monday, October 03, 2016 6:56 AM To: Window Eyes List Subject: No emails Haven't recieved any mail from the list, for quite a while. It just dawned on me. Let me know if this comes through. Thanks. Mike

Re: The future of Window-eyes

Keep this stuff up, and they'll drive more people to the Mac. I've never liked FS's attitudes regarding marketing and quality control.--Matthew Chao On 10/3/2016 8:22 AM, Kevin Barry via Talk wrote: Welcome to the world of being a customer of a private equity firm, nothing good. On

Re: The future of Window-eyes

Welcome to the world of being a customer of a private equity firm, nothing good. On Monday, October 3, 2016, Martin Brown via Talk < talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote: > Hello Sky. > I have listened to both podcasts, and would not be optimistic about the > survival of Window-Eyes. > I found

RE: The future of Window-eyes

Hello Sky. I have listened to both podcasts, and would not be optimistic about the survival of Window-Eyes. I found very little about either podcast to give me even the smallest twinge of excitement about what will be new in JAWS 18 either. Audio Ducking would seem to be the revolutionary new idea

re: No emails

Hi Mike, It came through, but will you get this from me? - Original Message - From: Mike Rogers via Talk

RE: No emails

Hi Mike, Got this one. Best, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Mike Rogers via Talk Sent: Monday, October 3, 2016 6:57 AM To: Window Eyes List Subject: No emails Haven't

No emails

Haven't recieved any mail from the list, for quite a while. It just dawned on me. Let me know if this comes through. Thanks. Mike www.harmonicaworkshops.com www.woodeneyemusic.com ___ Any views or opinions