Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

2009-11-01 Thread Chris Hill
Christoph Böhme wrote: And another update of NOVAM: - Internet Explorer 8 should now work (make sure it is not in compatibility mode). It is quite slow though compared to the other browsers. I'll try this out later. - The naptan:Bearing tag is used to show an arrow on the bus stop

Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

2009-11-01 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 1 Nov 2009, at 17:58, Chris Hill wrote: Christoph Böhme wrote: And another update of NOVAM: - Internet Explorer 8 should now work (make sure it is not in compatibility mode). It is quite slow though compared to the other browsers. I'll try this out later. - The naptan:Bearing tag

Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

2009-11-01 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 1 Nov 2009, at 20:40, Chris Morley wrote: Christoph Böhme wrote: And another update of NOVAM: This seems to be useful tool and I like the addition of the bearing symbols. But the current ones are equilateral triangles and three-way ambiguous. The meaning can be worked out after a bit of

Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

2009-11-01 Thread Christoph Böhme
Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk schrieb: On 1 Nov 2009, at 20:40, Chris Morley wrote: Christoph Böhme wrote: And another update of NOVAM: This seems to be useful tool and I like the addition of the bearing symbols. But the current ones are equilateral triangles and

Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

2009-11-01 Thread Chris Hill
Christoph Böhme wrote: Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk schrieb: On 1 Nov 2009, at 17:58, Chris Hill wrote: Christoph Böhme wrote: And another update of NOVAM: - Internet Explorer 8 should now work (make sure it is not in compatibility mode). It is quite slow

Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

2009-11-01 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 1 Nov 2009, at 22:09, Christoph Böhme wrote: Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk schrieb: Same on Safari Mac 4.0.3 I tried printing with Chrome (which uses Webkit too, I think). It did print the map, but always moved it to Scotland first. Perhaps Safari is less of a scottish

Re: [Talk-hr] Hrvatska biciklistička mreža

2009-11-01 Thread hbogner
Matija Nalis wrote: On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 01:25:13PM +0200, hbogner wrote: Za sad imam smao lokalne turističke biciklističke rute, poput Sljemena, Samoborskog gorja i Topuskog, ali s vremenom će se skupiti i ostale. cool, javi kad nesto napravis da pogledamo ! Bitno mi ej sve sad

Re: [Talk-hr] Kako koristiti OSM mapu na GPS-u

2009-11-01 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:37:11 +, Ivan Putnik wrote: Kako sam primjetio uređaj mi sprema u .gpx format tako da to nebi trebalo biti problem... Koristim iGO8 program, pa evo da jedno pitanje podstavim dali mozda postoji neki konverter iz .osm (ili .xml) formata u .fbl ili tako nešto i da li

[OSM-legal-talk] Extent of share alike?

2009-11-01 Thread David Vaarwerk
Hello, I have made a map and business guide from scratch that you can see here http://www.mineraldata.com.au/wp/index.html [1]. I would like to share the map data with OSM and use OSM as a base map for this and other maps/ business guides - I assume there is no problem with this as long as I

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Anthony osm at inbox.org writes: Grey area is - is tracing over sat/ortphotos creation of derative works, or not? That's equivalent to the question of whether or not that aspect of the original work is copyrighted. Tracing a copyrighted work is certainly copying, and copying is the key

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Pieren
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi wrote: There is an interesting blog post at http://www.systemed.net/blog/?p=100 Tracing a copyrighted work, is not necessarily copying. See image at

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/11/1 Pieren pier...@gmail.com On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Jukka Rahkonen wrote: There is an interesting blog post at http://www.systemed.net/blog/?p=100 Tracing a copyrighted work, is not necessarily copying. See image at

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/11/1 Liz ed...@billiau.net I have been to places which have traced streets, and where no aerial imagery from Yahoo or Landsat shows such detail. There were some GPS traces, but not enough to verify the entire traced area. Having actually visited and mapped some of these places I came

Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin eTrex Vista Hcx

2009-11-01 Thread Richard Bullock
Shalabh schrieb: Would just like to figure out if any of you have had the same issue with this model or any other Garmin GPS. I have a similar Issue with the Garmin Vista HCx. Occasionally I observe, that the GPS position is way off the known road/path I am on. The satellite accuracy is

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread John Smith
2009/11/1 Pieren pier...@gmail.com: I don't like this thread because it could leave the impression that tracing on orthophotos is not a copyright infringement. Unfortunately, it is. People are mixing factual data visible on a picture like the Actually it doesn't have anything to do with

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi wrote: There is an interesting blog post at http://www.systemed.net/blog/?p=100 Tracing a copyrighted work, is not necessarily copying. See image at

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread John Smith
2009/11/1 Anthony o...@inbox.org: If you're tracing roads, you're copying the shape of the roads. You're certainly copying *something*, but that something is probably not copyrighted (and almost certainly not copyrighted by the person who took the picture).  The copyright on the shape and

[OSM-talk] How do you easily add a location pointer to maps on main website?

2009-11-01 Thread Jason Cunningham
I asked early on in the year for way to add a marker to a map when I wanted to give a link to a map that that pointed out a location. The answer given was to get a 'permalink' then put an 'm' before 'lat' and 'lon' in the url. The edited link then brings up a map with a red diamond at the centre

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you easily add a location pointer to maps on main website?

2009-11-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/11/1 Jason Cunningham jamicu...@googlemail.com I asked early on in the year for way to add a marker to a map when I wanted to give a link to a map that that pointed out a location. The answer given was to get a 'permalink' then put an 'm' before 'lat' and 'lon' in the url. The edited

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Russ Nelson
Pieren writes: first category. Tracing on Google Maps or others is in the second category and is copyright infringement. Point. In reality, it isn't. It's factual information about the world, which is not copyrightable in the USA, and given your sweat of the brow in tracing it, is

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Pieren pieren3 at gmail.com writes: I don't like this thread because it could leave the impression that tracing on orthophotos is not a copyright infringement. Unfortunately, it is. I don't know how important it to struggle about copyrights and tracing vector data on imagery. It should be

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you easily add a location pointer to maps on main website?

2009-11-01 Thread David Earl
On 01/11/2009 14:16, Jason Cunningham wrote: I asked early on in the year for way to add a marker to a map when I wanted to give a link to a map that that pointed out a location. ... I suppose I am hoping that in the future there is some way to replicate the easy method multimap provides.

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you easily add a location pointer to maps on main website?

2009-11-01 Thread Tom Chance
Just to say that I do think the Export tab route is excessively complicated, and that it's a shame the short links don't carry across markers. Tom 2009/11/1 Jason Cunningham jamicu...@googlemail.com I asked early on in the year for way to add a marker to a map when I wanted to give a link to

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread John Smith
2009/11/2 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: in some regions/countries like the EU there is also a database protection and those aerial images are / might be considered a database. Then all photos are databases... ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you easily add a location pointer to maps on main website?

2009-11-01 Thread David Earl
On 01/11/2009 15:54, Tom Chance wrote: Just to say that I do think the Export tab route is excessively complicated, and that it's a shame the short links don't carry across markers. +1. If only I had the time, I'd do something like this: present a map to which you can freely add multiple

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread John Smith
2009/11/2 Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi: different contracts. Yahoo obviously paying more because of more open licence Yahoo also seems to have new data that's 3 years old, so they may get it for the same price (or cheaper), but have more rights to derive data from it?

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
John Smith deltafoxtrot256 at gmail.com writes: 2009/11/2 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist at gmail.com: in some regions/countries like the EU there is also a database protection and those aerial images are / might be considered a database. Then all photos are databases... Spot images

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread John Smith
2009/11/2 Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi: John Smith deltafoxtrot256 at gmail.com writes: 2009/11/2 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist at gmail.com: in some regions/countries like the EU there is also a database protection and those aerial images are / might be considered a

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Mike N.
In reality, it isn't. It's factual information about the world, which is not copyrightable in the USA, and given your sweat of the brow in tracing it, is copyrightable (but it's YOUR copyright for having traced) in the UK. But that's not the point. The point is that the Google Terms of

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you easily add a location pointer to maps on main website?

2009-11-01 Thread malenki
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: well, if you doubleclick on the desired location and then adjust the zoomlevel you don't have to guess, just do it ;-) Or shift + draw a rectangle with the left mouse button. just my 2 p malenki ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote: In reality, it isn't.  It's factual information about the world, which is not copyrightable in the USA, and given your sweat of the brow in tracing it, is copyrightable (but it's YOUR copyright for having traced) in the UK. But

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:09 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/1 Anthony o...@inbox.org: If you're tracing roads, you're copying the shape of the roads. You're certainly copying *something*, but that something is probably not copyrighted (and almost certainly not

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: Yeah well, maybe in the US.  In France you can copyright a building and anyone who takes a picture of the building and uses it for commercial purposes without permission is committing copyright infringement. There's a similar law

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: in some regions/countries like the EU there is also a database protection and those aerial images are / might be considered a database. Those database laws really make things tough. It's basically a flaw in the

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you easily add a location pointer to maps on main website?

2009-11-01 Thread Shaun McDonald
In addition to the rest of the answers in the thread you can double click to centre the map then copy the shortlink and add ?m to the end of the url (assuming that your using the default Mapnik layer otherwise it's m). Shaun On 1 Nov 2009, at 14:16, Jason Cunningham wrote: I asked early

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you easily add a location pointer to maps on main website?

2009-11-01 Thread Sam Vekemans
Well, BigTinCan maps does too. can make an arrow to point on the map. http://maps.bigtincan.com/# .. it can also show different map renderings.. ?body=View my map at http://maps.bigtincan.com/?z=12ll=49.118,-125.878layer=000B0TT (i needed to right click and save email address to get it to

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/11/1 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com 2009/11/2 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: in some regions/countries like the EU there is also a database protection and those aerial images are / might be considered a database. Then all photos are databases... I'm not a lawyer,

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you easily add a location pointer to maps on main website?

2009-11-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/11/1 malenki o...@malenki.ch Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: well, if you doubleclick on the desired location and then adjust the zoomlevel you don't have to guess, just do it ;-) Or shift + draw a rectangle with the left mouse button. won't help him (he's after the center, not a fast way

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
2009/11/1 Anthony o...@inbox.org: On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: in some regions/countries like the EU there is also a database protection and those aerial images are / might be considered a database. Those database laws really make things

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Sun, 1 Nov 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/11/1 Liz ed...@billiau.net I have been to places which have traced streets, and where no aerial imagery from Yahoo or Landsat shows such detail. There were some GPS traces, but not enough to verify the entire traced area. Having

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, to resume all this discussion - PLEASE don't trace from photo without permission for OSM, whatever your temptations are. Permission from whom, and in what form? Supposedly the Yahoo images are okay, but 1) Yahoo

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 1 Nov 2009, at 20:17, Anthony wrote: On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, to resume all this discussion - PLEASE don't trace from photo without permission for OSM, whatever your temptations are. Permission from whom, and in what form?

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Russ Nelson
Peteris Krisjanis writes: Anyway, to resume all this discussion - PLEASE don't trace from photo without permission for OSM, whatever your temptations are. E, no. The USGS Digital Ortho Quads are in the public domain; no permission necessary to trace off of them. -- --my blog is at

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: On 1 Nov 2009, at 20:17, Anthony wrote: On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, to resume all this discussion - PLEASE don't trace from photo without permission for

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Ulf Lamping
Russ Nelson schrieb: Peteris Krisjanis writes: Anyway, to resume all this discussion - PLEASE don't trace from photo without permission for OSM, whatever your temptations are. E, no. The USGS Digital Ortho Quads are in the public domain; no permission necessary to trace off of

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Anthony wrote: The answer being: there is no waiver, and there is no copyright license. If tracing Google maps is copyright infringement, so is tracing Yahoo maps. Copyright infringement is nothing to do with it, as per Bauman vs Fussell, Antiquesportfolio vs Fitch, etc. The question is

[OSM-talk] Research group asking for GPX tracks

2009-11-01 Thread Emilie Laffray
Hello, it seems that a research group is asking for GPS data in order to improve cars. I think it would be worth talking to them to see if we could get some of their GPX tracks for our own use. http://chargecar.org/participate/how_to for more details. Emilie Laffray signature.asc Description:

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Anthony wrote: The answer being: there is no waiver, and there is no copyright license.  If tracing Google maps is copyright infringement, so is tracing Yahoo maps. Copyright infringement is nothing to do with it,

Re: [OSM-talk] Research group asking for GPX tracks

2009-11-01 Thread Shaun McDonald
I doubt that we would be able to help as we don't have information like the weather, tire pressures, type of vehicle or similar. Shaun On 1 Nov 2009, at 21:12, Emilie Laffray wrote: Hello, it seems that a research group is asking for GPS data in order to improve cars. I think it would be

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: The question is whether it's breach of contract (ToS). Yahoo have told us it isn't. Google have thus far refused to give an official answer, despite 1,500+ people saying they want one. Which TOS? What type of usage?

Re: [OSM-talk] Research group asking for GPX tracks

2009-11-01 Thread Emilie Laffray
Shaun McDonald wrote: I doubt that we would be able to help as we don't have information like the weather, tire pressures, type of vehicle or similar. To be fair, I am more interested in getting the GPX tracks for OSM. It would be one way of contributing without people knowing they are

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Anthony osm at inbox.org writes: On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Richard Fairhurst richard at systemed.net wrote: Copyright infringement is nothing to do with it, as per Bauman vs Fussell, Antiquesportfolio vs Fitch, etc. The question is whether it's breach of contract (ToS). That is

[OSM-talk] Speeding and GPX tracks

2009-11-01 Thread Mike N.
I care about them as much as I care about people's speed limit violations while making OSM maps. I can just picture some bored police lieutenant pulling down those GPX tracks in his area having timestamps, then trying to issue speeding tickets.

[OSM-talk] U.S. Chapter Working Group Call Tomorrow

2009-11-01 Thread Kate Chapman
I'm cross posting this from talk-us for those that are interested in the U.S. Chapter formation. I suggest joining the talk...@openstreetmap.orggroup to keep up with further discussions. Just a reminder that the U.S. Chapter Call is tomorrow at 5 P.M. PST/8 P.M EST. If you are interested in

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Russ Nelson
Ulf Lamping writes: Russ Nelson schrieb: Peteris Krisjanis writes: Anyway, to resume all this discussion - PLEASE don't trace from photo without permission for OSM, whatever your temptations are. E, no. The USGS Digital Ortho Quads are in the public domain; no

Re: [OSM-talk] Garmin eTrex Vista Hcx

2009-11-01 Thread Dave G
It is probably a fairly common GPS use issue as opposed to a Garmin issue There are many reasons for this not least of which is that all manufacturers lie about the accuracy of their units in real - world use (as opposed to theoretical accuracy tolerances) That is why surveyors and

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread John Smith
2009/11/2 Anthony o...@inbox.org: Yeah well, maybe in the US.  In France you can copyright a building and anyone who takes a picture of the building and uses it for commercial purposes without permission is committing copyright infringement.  Maybe they'd be willing to extend that to roads, at

[OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-01 Thread Shalabh
I have been using JOSM for the last 2-3 months for making changes to OSM. A practical issue I see using JOSM is it shows the GPS trails as light red lines and then the user needs to draw nodes on those trails. Drawing these individual nodes, taking care that each curve on the road is taken care of

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-01 Thread John Smith
2009/11/2 Shalabh shalab...@gmail.com: I will leave this open to discussion but I thought it better to bring this to everybody's notice, so JOSM can be made more user friendly. You can already convert a GPX layer to a OSM layer and then upload the results, just right click on the layer, however

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Anthony wrote: Unless you have received prior written authorization from Google (or, as applicable, from the provider of particular Content), you must not: (b) copy, translate, modify, or make derivative works of the Content or any part thereof; Yes. It is quite clear that tracing aerial

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-01 Thread John Smith
2009/11/2 Dan Homerick danhomer...@gmail.com: On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:56 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: You can already convert a GPX layer to a OSM layer and then upload the results, just right click on the layer, however it can be very tedious to remove points if they

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-01 Thread Nop
Hi! Shalabh schrieb: Given my limited understanding of mapping and even more limited understanding of computing, I think it would be better if JOSM assumed the trails to be correct and drew nodes on it on its own. This is possible combining several features. However, it is a bad idea,

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for JOSM

2009-11-01 Thread Shalabh
Hi Nop, thanks for your email. I take your point, it would be difficult to delete and then we would be purely depending on the mapper's diligence. So yeah, I think I would rather use the suggestions given by Dan than advocate an auto track feature. Regards, Shalabh On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 1:15

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] mapping-party in het noorden

2009-11-01 Thread Henk Hoff
Hallo, Het lijkt erop dat zaterdag 21 november voor de meesten goed uitkomt. Kortom, ik wil voorstellen de noordelijke mappingparty op die dag te houden. Verzamelplek en tijdstip zullen nog bekend worden gemaakt. Hier de wiki-pagina:

Re: [talk-au] BigTinCan Maps tiles not updating?

2009-11-01 Thread John Smith
The tile server finally caught up some time over night and should now be up to date with the main OSM tile server. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [Talk-de] Ich bin dann mal weg.

2009-11-01 Thread Thomas Reincke
Ulf Lamping schrieb: Da hat sich einer Mail technisch ziemlich daneben benommen und der Admin hat entsprechend drauf reagiert, indem er den Account erstmal abgeschaltet hat - wahrscheinlich damit nicht noch mehr Leute genervt werden. In solche einem Fall sollte dem User mitgeteilt werden,

Re: [Talk-de] Ich bin dann mal weg.

2009-11-01 Thread Andreas Pothe
In solche einem Fall sollte dem User mitgeteilt werden, das aus dem Grund XY sein Account vorübergehend gesperrt wurde und das weitere Vorgehen erläutert werden. Und ihm auch die Möglichkeit zur Stellungnahme gegeben werden. Weißt du, ob das so war? Ist es mit rechtsstaatlichen Methoden

[Talk-de] GEGENDARSTELLUNG (war Re: Ich bin dann mal weg.)

2009-11-01 Thread Sven Anders
Am Saturday 31 October 2009 12:11:45 schrieb Tobias Wendorff: Hallo Community, aufgrund der aktuellen Entwicklungen und zunehmenden Stasi-Methoden bei OpenStreetMap habe ich mich dazu entschieden, (mich nach dieser Nachricht) aus dem Talk-DE zu entfernen. Ich habe echt keinen Bock mehr auf

Re: [Talk-de] Strassenklassifizierung (was:Gratulation!)

2009-11-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 31. Oktober 2009 00:07 schrieb Christoph Eckert c...@christeck.de: ich finde das auch nicht optimal. Andererseits ist die Übersetzung des ganzen äußerst schwierig. Und da mir bislang nichts besseres eingefallen ist, habe ich mich ruhig verhalten. Frage daher: Wäre es nicht klug, statt

Re: [Talk-de] Fragen zu Gemeindegrenzen und coastline

2009-11-01 Thread Mark Obrembalski
Georg Feddern wrote: Außerdem - was ist mit den Seebrücken und Molen oder auch Hafenbereichen (Wasser) an sich, die doch eindeutig zur Gemeinde gehören, dann aber außerhalb lägen? Ist das dort so eindeutig? Zumindest was den Bodensee angeht, gibt es Gerichtsurteile, nach denen die

Re: [Talk-de] Strassenklassifizierung (was:Gratulation!)

2009-11-01 Thread Martin Simon
Am 1. November 2009 12:20 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Abgesehen davon, dass a) ein paar Fremdwörter enthält, finde ich das am direktesten. Es fordert zwar eine gewisse Auseinandersetzung mit dem Thema Straßenklassifikation in OSM, aber das ist m.E. so oder so

Re: [Talk-de] Strassenklassifizierung (was:Gratulation!)

2009-11-01 Thread Florian Gross
Am So November 1 2009 glaubte Martin Koppenhoefer zu wissen: Ein paar Vorschläge meinerseits: a) direkte Übersetzung1: -Primärverbindung -Sekundärverbindung -Tertiärverbindung b) direkte Übersetzung2: - Verkehrsbedeutung 1 - Verkehrsbedeutung 2 - Verkehrsbedeutung 3 c) direkte

Re: [Talk-de] GEGENDARSTELLUNG (war Re: Ich bin dann mal weg.)

2009-11-01 Thread Florian Gross
Am So November 1 2009 glaubte Sven Anders zu wissen: Für mich sieht es so aus, als ob da einiges unglücklich zusammengetroffen ist. Was im Hintergrund hängt, weiß ich nicht. Ich finde es schade, was und wie es gelaufen ist. Von daher: Konstruktiv könnte man zwei Ziele formulieren: 1.

Re: [Talk-de] Strassenklassifizierung (was:Gratulation!)

2009-11-01 Thread Mirko Küster
Du kannst das umbenennen wie du willst, ohne Definition die auch wirklich jeder nachvoillziehen kann, kommt man in der Praxis nicht weiter. Wie schon geschrieben sind sich da nichtmal die professionellen Kartenanbieter und die LVA untereinander einig. Als Thüringer Randsachsen Anhalter kann ich

Re: [Talk-de] Strassenklassifizierung

2009-11-01 Thread Ulf Lamping
Christoph Eckert schrieb: Aus Erfahrung weiß ich, dass diejenigen, die in ihrer Freizeit ihr geballtes IT-Know-How in das Projekt investieren, fast immer ein offenes Ohr für konstruktive Verbesserungsvorschläge haben. Umso mehr finde ich es daneben, wenn im Gegenzug sowas wie »Idiotische

Re: [Talk-de] GEGENDARSTELLUNG (war Re: Ich bin dann mal weg.)

2009-11-01 Thread Tirkon
Sven Anders s...@anders-hamburg.de wrote: Konstruktiv könnte man zwei Ziele formulieren: 1. TobWen soll wieder OSM Bearbeiten können und Mails verschicken dürfen 2. Es sollte ein Verfahren überlegt werden wie/wann/warum Sperren durchgeführt werden und wie diese evtl. besser/anders kommuniziert

Re: [Talk-de] leere Erfurt- Relation

2009-11-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 31. Oktober 2009 12:53 schrieb Marcus Wolschon mar...@wolschon.biz: 2009/10/31 Mirko Küster webmas...@ts-eastrail.de: (Denn genau dafür wird die Grenze einer kreisfreien Stadt unter anderem Benutzt.) ... Straßen mit einer PLZ aber in 13 Ortsteilen, welche nur anhand eines Place

Re: [Talk-de] Strassenklassifizierung (was:Gratulation!)

2009-11-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 1. November 2009 13:00 schrieb Mirko Küster webmas...@ts-eastrail.de: Du kannst das umbenennen wie du willst, ohne Definition die auch wirklich jeder nachvoillziehen kann, kommt man in der Praxis nicht weiter. wieso? (*g*) Wie schon geschrieben sind sich da nichtmal die

Re: [Talk-de] SVG-Export / Re: Tool für OSM-Druckkar ten online

2009-11-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 31. Oktober 2009 20:18 schrieb Florian Lohoff f...@rfc822.org: On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 03:41:47PM +0100, RalfGesellensetter wrote: Hallo. Ehrlich gesagt meinte ich den schnöden SVG-Export von Mapnik - meine aber auch von anderen Tools gelesen zu haben (ist schließlich alles nur XML und

Re: [Talk-de] opestreetmap.org zeigt kein Supermarkt Icon, wenn Adresse existiert

2009-11-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 31. Oktober 2009 20:53 schrieb Christian H. Bruhn br...@arcor.de: Guten Tag Claudius, am Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2009 um 19:24 schrieben Sie: Nein. Die aktuellen Mapnik-Renderregeln geben in diesem Tagging-Fall schlichtweg der Hausnummer den Vorrang. Das finde ich mehr als schlecht.

[Talk-de] Test des Garmin Oregon 300

2009-11-01 Thread Olivier Croquette
Hallo ! Für die jenigen, die interessiere an dem Gerät haben : http://ocroquette.wordpress.com/2009/11/01/personal-review-of-the-garmin-oregon-300/ Die OSM Karten sehen toll aus. Ich werde irgendwann auch Screenshots anhängen. Gruss Olivier ___

Re: [Talk-de] Test des Garmin Oregon 300

2009-11-01 Thread Ulf Lamping
Olivier Croquette schrieb: Hallo ! Für die jenigen, die interessiere an dem Gerät haben : http://ocroquette.wordpress.com/2009/11/01/personal-review-of-the-garmin-oregon-300/ Die OSM Karten sehen toll aus. Ich werde irgendwann auch Screenshots anhängen. Danke für die Beschreibung, deckt

Re: [Talk-de] Test des Garmin Oregon 300

2009-11-01 Thread Johann H. Addicks
Ulf Lamping schrieb: Falls es dir entgangen ist, es gibt im OSM Wiki inzwischen recht ausführliche englische Garmin Beschreibungen [1], unter [2] findet man z.B. einen Vergleich zwischen Oregon 300 und Vista Cx. Die Firma Garmin wird sich bei mir mit einem Neukauf gedulden müssen, bis die

Re: [Talk-de] Paketannahmestellen

2009-11-01 Thread René Falk
André Riedel schrieb: Am 31. Oktober 2009 14:03 schrieb Jan Tappenbeck o...@tappenbeck.net: amenity=post_office operator=[betreffender Name] ... Deutsche Post AG, DHL, Hermes etc. erfaßt. Ich bin mir nicht, ob das wirklich das beste ist. Da der Betreiber des Ladens in den meisten Fällen

[Talk-de] OSMTracker

2009-11-01 Thread Wolfgang Wienke
Hallo, kann jemand helfen? Ich möchte für OSMTracker Tiles herunterladen um die Karte anzeigen zu können. Ich habe aber keine online-Verbindung sondern kann das nur während des Anschluss des PDA an den PC, dann habe ich aber keinen GPS-Empfang. Brauche ich dazu einen GPS-Simulator-File? Wie

Re: [Talk-de] Paketannahmestellen

2009-11-01 Thread Mirko Küster
Es gibt da auch noch die reinen Verkaufstellen, wo nur noch Paket- und Briefmarken verkauft werden. So hat man hier einige degradiert. Die Verkaufen Produkte der Post, sind aber keine Filialen mehr. Fehlt aber noch immer die Möglichkeit das alles sinnvoll unter einen Hut zu kriegen. Bei uns

[Talk-de] Login bei www.openstreetmap.org/

2009-11-01 Thread dieter jasper
Hallo, Login mit Benutzername und Passwort funktioniert bei mir nicht. Erhalte die Meldung:Sorry, Anmelden mit diesen Daten nicht möglich. Ein neues Passwort kann ich auch nicht anfordern, da ich z. Z. keinen Zugang auf die eMail-Adresser habe, mit der ich mich angemeldet habe. Ich bin mir

Re: [Talk-de] OSMTracker

2009-11-01 Thread Thomas Ineichen
Hallo Wolfgang, Ich möchte für OSMTracker Tiles herunterladen um die Karte anzeigen zu können. Ich habe aber keine online-Verbindung sondern kann das nur während des Anschluss des PDA an den PC, dann habe ich aber keinen GPS-Empfang. Am einfachsten ist es, wenn Du die Tiles vorher

[Talk-de] Login bei www.openstreetmap.org/

2009-11-01 Thread dieter jasper
Hallo, Login mit Benutzername und Passwort funktioniert bei mir nicht. Erhalte die Meldung:Sorry, Anmelden mit diesen Daten nicht möglich. Ein neues Passwort kann ich auch nicht anfordern, da ich z. Z. keinen Zugang auf die eMail-Adresser habe, mit der ich mich angemeldet habe. Ich bin mir

Re: [Talk-de] Semikolon als Trenner (war Re: Paketannahmestellen)

2009-11-01 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Freitag 30 Oktober 2009 09:14:05 schrieb Nop: Hi! Guenther Meyer schrieb: Am Donnerstag 29 Oktober 2009 23:50:21 schrieb Karl Eichwalder: Guenther Meyer d@sordidmusic.com writes: dann muessen das die anwendungen eben lernen. Es ist nicht ganz trivial, wenn auf einmal listen in

Re: [Talk-de] Login bei www.openstreetmap.org/

2009-11-01 Thread SLXViper
dieter jasper schrieb: Hallo, Login mit Benutzername und Passwort funktioniert bei mir nicht. Erhalte die Meldung:Sorry, Anmelden mit diesen Daten nicht möglich. Ich hab eben keine Probleme damit gehabt. komisch. Grüße ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] Semikolon als Trenner (war Re: Paketannahmestellen)

2009-11-01 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Freitag 30 Oktober 2009 17:16:19 schrieb Tobias Wendorff: Josias Polchau schrieb: das funktioniert bei Restaurants aber nicht die art der küche wird über den cuisine tag festgelegt. wie willst du dann einen china-mann der sowohl chinesisch als auch taiwanesisch kocht taggen? meist macht

Re: [Talk-de] Login bei www.openstreetmap.org/

2009-11-01 Thread Ropino
Hallo, hast du die Groß-/Kleinschreibung beachtet? Oder nimm statt des Benutzernamens die Emailadresse. Ropino dieter jasper schrieb: Hallo, Login mit Benutzername und Passwort funktioniert bei mir nicht. Erhalte die Meldung:Sorry, Anmelden mit diesen Daten nicht möglich. Ein neues

Re: [Talk-de] Login bei www.openstreetmap.org/

2009-11-01 Thread Dieter Jasper
Ropino schrieb: Hallo, hast du die Groß-/Kleinschreibung beachtet? Oder nimm statt des Benutzernamens die Emailadresse. Ropino Danke für den Hinweis. Emailadresse funktioniert. Der Benutzername funktioniert nicht, weil der 1. Buchstabe nach der Eingabe auf Großschreibung umspringt,

[Talk-de] Moor

2009-11-01 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! zum Moor habe ich kein Tag gefunden - kann mir einer weiterhelfen ?? Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Moor

2009-11-01 Thread Chris-Hein Lunkhusen
Jan Tappenbeck schrieb: zum Moor habe ich kein Tag gefunden - kann mir einer weiterhelfen ?? Hier mal gucken: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Tag:natural%3Dwetland Chris ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-de] gelöschte Nodes?

2009-11-01 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Gibt es eigentlich irgendwo eine Funktion, um einzelne gelöschte Nodes (z.B. POIs) zu entdecken? Potlatch u gibt soweit ich das sehe nur ways aus. Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] gelöschte Nodes?

2009-11-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Gibt es eigentlich irgendwo eine Funktion, um einzelne gelöschte Nodes (z.B. POIs) zu entdecken? Nein, gibt es derzeit tatsaechlich nicht. Wenn man sehr nahe ranzoomt und dann alle Changesets fuer diesen Bereich aufruft und ein Node in diesem Bereich

Re: [Talk-de] OSMTracker

2009-11-01 Thread Gerd Steinburger
Wolfgang Wienke schrieb: Hallo, kann jemand helfen? Ich möchte für OSMTracker Tiles herunterladen um die Karte anzeigen zu können. Ich habe aber keine online-Verbindung sondern kann das nur während des Anschluss des PDA an den PC, dann habe ich aber keinen GPS-Empfang. Hallo, man kann

Re: [Talk-de] OSMTracker

2009-11-01 Thread Wolfgang Wienke
Hallo! Thomas Ineichen schrieb: Hallo Wolfgang, Ich möchte für OSMTracker Tiles herunterladen um die Karte anzeigen zu können. Ich habe aber keine online-Verbindung sondern kann das nur während des Anschluss des PDA an den PC, dann habe ich aber keinen GPS-Empfang. Am einfachsten ist

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