Re: [OSM-talk] THIS is the kind of enthusiasm some would reject

2015-09-12 Thread Jo
> (I've been trying not to comment too much, but I'm in the camp that > deletionism is harmful to the community - it upsets people far more than > it helps, even when correct, and especially when not correct.) > > I also tried not to comment, but I'm in that same camp. There is really no harm in ha

[OSM-talk] Innovative uses of OSM data in cities?

2015-08-29 Thread Jo Walsh
OSM based clothing from http://monochome.com/ But I am interested in other examples of novel uses of OSM data, any suggestions from the list would be welcome. Jo -- Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap

Re: [OSM-talk] stop deleting abandoned railroads

2015-08-25 Thread Jo
For what it's worth, I'm in favour of tagging dismantled railways as railway=dismantled Even if it does pass through newly built buildings. Polyglot 2015-08-25 9:52 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson : > On Sat, Aug 22, 2015 at 6:09 PM, moltonel 3x Combo > wrote: > >> On 22/08/2015, John Eldredge wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-20 Thread Jo
I must admit I never really liked the scheme where motorways get the colour of water... I also grew up with orange/yellow motorways on the map. But I (try to) complain as little as possible. So I'm glad people are trying to come up with a 'more international' way of rendering the map. If that's ev

Re: [OSM-talk] name:etymology:wikidata

2015-07-31 Thread Jo
en#External_links I have no idea how to go about this when the querying needs to be performed in wikidata itself, then transfered to an Overpass query to fetch the actual streets. That said, I see your point about adding source references for the original research. Jo 2015-07-31 19:31 GMT+02:0

Re: [OSM-talk] name:etymology:wikidata

2015-07-31 Thread Jo
GMT+02:00 Lester Caine : > On 31/07/15 16:09, Jo wrote: > > That's what is proposed here though: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata > > > > And it keeps that particular wikidata tag nicely together with the name > > when sorted alp

Re: [OSM-talk] name:etymology:wikidata

2015-07-31 Thread Jo
That's what is proposed here though: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata And it keeps that particular wikidata tag nicely together with the name when sorted alphabetically. Jo 2015-07-31 17:01 GMT+02:00 Jochen Topf : > On Fr, Jul 31, 2015 at 04:27:05 +0200,

[OSM-talk] name:etymology:wikidata

2015-07-31 Thread Jo
Hi, I like to create bridges between projects, so now I was looking into the name:etymology:wikidata tag. And I have a question about it. Say, you have a Rue de la Chapelle Rue de la Station I'd be inclined to make it point to the specific instance of chapel or station. The other possibility wo

Re: [OSM-talk] Mappers and apps should focus on relations at the very start

2015-06-27 Thread Jo
Hi Bryce, I'm glad I'm not the only one who is of this opinion. You probably formulated it a lot better than I ever did in the tickets to complain about this behaviour. Anyway Richard, I respect you a lot, but if I notice there is a problem, nobody can expect me/us to remain quiet about it. So I'

Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-15 Thread Jo
Also many of our paths started out as animal paths. In some areas they may be the only way to get from A to B. Jo 2015-06-15 10:55 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > > sent from a phone > > > Am 15.06.2015 um 01:24 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > >

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] OSM is a right mess (was: Craigslist OpenStreetMap Rendering Issue)

2015-06-06 Thread Jo
In the same vein: way=0: no way! Better not to lose sleep over 3 letters. Jo > ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] "Keulen" (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Thread Jo
t's the kind of redundancy that's helpful for automatic verification of the data. Jo 2015-05-30 12:05 GMT+02:00 SomeoneElse : > On 30/05/2015 07:59, Roland Olbricht wrote: > >> >> I happened to drive through Belgium a few days ago, heading home. A good >> approximatio

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Jo
clude time tables the sky is the limit Jo 2015-05-29 18:43 GMT+02:00 Andrew Guertin : > On 05/27/2015 05:13 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > >> We are a database of geodata [...] >> > > Would it not be better to record the wikidata link for London, and >> then (perhaps in c

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Jo
2015-05-29 11:41 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett : > On 29 May 2015 at 09:57, Arch Arch <7h3.a...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > If the foreign name differs from the transliteration I think no one would > > oppose to add the name into the OSM database. > > Then you haven't been paying attention to this thread. >

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-29 Thread Jo
We need our own OSMdata instance in between to describe real world objects and concepts. And maybe we could even solve the ridiculous amount of duplication we're experiencing at the moment. True, the editor software will have to be adapted to cope with merges and splits, so the human editor can de

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMdata / OSMbase instance

2015-05-28 Thread Jo
I wouldn't mirror our node, way and relation objects in it though. Jo 2015-05-28 13:00 GMT+02:00 Cristian Consonni : > Hi, > > 2015-05-28 12:42 GMT+02:00 Jo : > > I'm following discussions on several mailing lists and an idea is > starting > > to form to he

[OSM-talk] OSMdata / OSMbase instance

2015-05-28 Thread Jo
I'm following discussions on several mailing lists and an idea is starting to form to help solve some of our growing pains. I think it would be interesting to contemplate setting up our own instance of WikiData. Wikidata could then link to entries in it and vice versa for the items which are 1:1

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging FOR the renderer

2015-05-15 Thread Jo
Of course the editors don't render EVERYTHING. Depending on the kind of work I want to focus on, I'm switching MapCSS styles and filters on and off in JOSM all the time. bicycle routes walking itineraries public transport routes addresses turn lanes traffic signs HOT validation speed limits It's

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapillary plugin for JOSM

2015-05-04 Thread Jo
are being mapped in greater numbers. Not sure how this would/could map to Mapillary's API. Jo ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Chain Store Cleanup

2015-05-02 Thread Jo
While you're at it, please consider adding brand:wikidata=Q38076 for McDonald's you verify. Polyglot 2015-05-03 0:28 GMT+02:00 pmailkeey . : > > > On 2 May 2015 at 23:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: > >> On 2 May 2015 at 22:28, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> >> > I know you have a Wikidata background and thi

Re: [OSM-talk] video mapping

2015-04-11 Thread Jo
2015-04-11 18:28 GMT+02:00 Janko Mihelić : > Mapillary announced they support video now: > > http://blog.mapillary.com/update/2015/03/31/video-upload.html > > You upload a video and a GPX track and they convert it to picture frames. That's convenient, but the produced pictures are still relatively

Re: [OSM-talk] PD: what can I do with automatic changes done against code of conduct

2015-04-08 Thread Jo Walsh
here is a Mechanical Edit Policy to do with these kind of systematic changes, and anyone has grounds to revert changes that don't follow the code of conduct: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edit_Policy It sounds like a forum discuss

Re: [OSM-talk] Territorial waters of Gibraltar

2015-04-08 Thread Jo Walsh
> > In between is "disputed > > territory". How do we handle that in other cases? > We follow the on the ground principle. > http://osmfoundation.org/w/images/d/d8/DisputedTerritoriesInformation.pdf Now that document says one interesting thing about OSM holding one set of "most-recognised" bor

Re: [OSM-talk] Routing on osm.org

2015-02-16 Thread Jo Walsh
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015, at 08:19 PM, Colin Smale wrote: > +1 to that! Hope it doesn't lead to an outbreak of "tagging for the > router" though... You know, down/upgrading roads to "improve" the > results... Anecdatally, I would say that outbreak is well in hand already :/

Re: [OSM-talk] "How We Map"

2015-02-12 Thread Jo Walsh
> > OpenStreetMap values community cohesion over data perfection. > > Could both terms be more elaborated on? > Does "data perfection" in practice mean "adding true but not really > useful things, often in not-well-thought-out way"? > Because otherwise, we should strive to be perfect. Ah, this i

Re: [OSM-talk] "How We Map"

2015-02-12 Thread Jo Walsh
On Thu, Feb 12, 2015, at 07:39 PM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/How_We_Map > > I welcome this page, I think it is very useful. > > One small comment - I oppose the following sentence: Thank you for the comment Matthijs, I've added it to the discussion page her

Re: [OSM-talk] this has to stop: iD user mistakes all over the place

2015-02-12 Thread Jo
Thank you for dismissing all our arguments in one fell swoop. The difference with reported bugs, is that said bugs did get addressed. If we are anti-anything it's anti-having-to-cleanup-with-no-possibility-to-shut-close-the-source-of-the-cause-of-precious-time-wasters. If people were consciously br

Re: [OSM-talk] this has to stop: iD user mistakes all over the place

2015-02-11 Thread Jo
We have been saying this from the very beginning, so it should have been taken into account right from the very start of development of iD. Don't break other contributor's data should have been among the initial design goals. Don't bother the user with dialogs when they're about to break something

Re: [OSM-talk] How to locate errors

2015-02-11 Thread Jo Walsh
/28770763 It should all work properly everywhere by tomorrow, Hendrik :) w00t everyone -- Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net On Tue, Feb 10, 2015, at 11:25 AM, Jo Walsh wrote: > On Mon, Feb 9, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Hendrik Hoeth wrote: > > - Import planet-150202 into psql-database usi

Re: [OSM-talk] this has to stop: iD user mistakes all over the place

2015-02-10 Thread Jo Walsh
> What might help here is to get details from the new mapper concerned of > how they felt that they needed to merge nodes or ways. I use changeset discussions a fair bit, partly because they end up right in the new mapper's inbox, and that provides a link to an outside view of the new mapper's

[OSM-talk] "How We Map"

2015-02-10 Thread Jo Walsh
rom other sources without first discussing and securing agreement on the imports list. -- Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] How to locate errors

2015-02-10 Thread Jo Walsh
On Mon, Feb 9, 2015, at 10:24 AM, Hendrik Hoeth wrote: > - Import planet-150202 into psql-database using imposm. Settings are at > the bottom of this mail. > > - The Lake Geneva (Lac Leman, Switzerland) is missing. There is no > polygon data for the lake in my database. Anything else I've look

Re: [OSM-talk] How to locate errors

2015-02-10 Thread Jo Walsh
On Tue, Feb 10, 2015, at 06:14 AM, Hendrik Hoeth wrote: > Hello again, > > I've imported Europe from geofabrik.de (2015-02-08), made sure I didn't > use the wrong table, and Lac Leman is still missing. So how would I > proceed? I have no idea how to debug this. The relation for Lac Leman / Lake G

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Re: [dispatch] Forming and chartering a GeoJSON WG

2015-02-05 Thread Jo Walsh
unity input into the WG in a more formal way. -- Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net On Thu, Feb 5, 2015, at 06:20 PM, Tom Taylor wrote: > Thought this proposed new Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) > activity might be of interest. > > Tom Taylor > > >

Re: [OSM-talk] API down

2015-02-02 Thread Jo Walsh
Fight, those powers-that-be! ps. thank you, mysterious powers, for the dull hard & totally unremunerated work on the planets and the API, whoever you are. On February 2, 2015 9:01:52 AM GMT, Tom Hughes wrote: >On 02/02/15 08:46, Malcolm Herring wrote: > >> Are the powers-that-be aware that the

Re: [OSM-talk] [Imports] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-26 Thread Jo
where the ones which were added in the mean time are missing now. The other option is to create a page on the wiki, with links which add these nodes via remote control into JOSM. Jo 2015-01-26 18:39 GMT+01:00 Clifford Snow : > > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 9:27 AM, JB wrote: > >>

Re: [OSM-talk] [Imports] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-26 Thread Jo
It would indeed be preferable to use OSM Notes for that purpose. Jo 2015-01-26 17:37 GMT+01:00 Bryce Nesbitt : > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:13 AM, Philip Barnes > wrote: > >> On Mon Jan 26 07:37:57 2015 GMT, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: >> > >> >> The locations I

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-26 Thread Jo
I finally found the one on the Campus of KU Leuven in Heverlee (Belgium) https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3312266873#map=17/50.86920/4.69259&layers=C Jo 2015-01-26 10:13 GMT+01:00 Philip Barnes : > On Mon Jan 26 07:37:57 2015 GMT, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > > > > The locati

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-25 Thread Jo
talk-nl and nl forum. The Netherlands and the northern part of Belgium are great for cycling so we have a lot of dedicated infrastructure. Polyglot 2015-01-25 10:56 GMT+01:00 SomeoneElse : > On 25/01/2015 05:20, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > >> Where do OSM cycling enthusiasts hang out : is there a mai

Re: [OSM-talk] There is a working map for people with Visual Impairment ?

2015-01-22 Thread Jo Walsh
Check out the work of Duncan Bain in Glasgow, here. On January 21, 2015 4:20:06 PM GMT, Cristian Consonni wrote: >Hi, > >2015-01-21 16:37 GMT+01:00 Badita Florin : >> I want to apply in Romania for a Grant , for helping blind or visual >impaired persons with the help of OSM. >> >> But i cannot

Re: [OSM-talk] [Imports] Keeping imported data updated with source changes

2015-01-10 Thread Jo
If you would go with adding ref. I'd use ref:xyz where xyz is something which identifies who's foreign keys you are using. For the ones that are wrong in the external source but double checked, you could add source=survey or note=resurveyed Jo 2015-01-10 16:44 GMT+01:00 Jason

Re: [OSM-talk] Change: How mature is OpenStreetMap?

2015-01-06 Thread Jo Walsh
I have no memory of sending this message. On January 6, 2015 10:38:29 PM GMT, Andrew Hain wrote: >Jo Walsh fastmail.net> writes: > >> >> >>   >> Attack is the best form of defence? >> Sorry, I don't have much sense of the OSM community as it curr

Re: [OSM-talk] Change: How mature is OpenStreetMap?

2015-01-06 Thread Jo Walsh
> I keep preaching it over and over again, but unfortunately very few > people are willing to invest time into the Wiki. It's just so sad when > you look on TagInfo and see how many tags lack a documentation. I recently attended a weekend mapping party organised by the 57 North Hacklab up in Ab

Re: [OSM-talk] Change: How mature is OpenStreetMap?

2015-01-06 Thread Jo Walsh
down according to extent of commitment. I just accidentally got a bit overcommitted to OSM. > On 2015-01-06 06:46, Jo Walsh wrote: >> dear Michal, This is an interesting set of comprehensive criticisms that gives OSM something to aim for in terms of a classical maturity model. However,

Re: [OSM-talk] MEP - pipelines

2015-01-05 Thread Jo Walsh
Data won't slip away because it is not tagged; it will slip away because it is not linked. The linking process benefits from having less coordination. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015, at 06:06 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: > You'd rather face a tag fragmentation, and slowly see your data slip > away? > It seems

Re: [OSM-talk] Change: How mature is OpenStreetMap?

2015-01-05 Thread Jo Walsh
dear Michal, This is an interesting set of comprehensive criticisms that gives OSM something to aim for in terms of a classical maturity model. However, I wonder what you bring to the party apart from critique. What are your contributions to OSM? Jo / zool > * People are making discussi

[OSM-talk] Color picker app

2015-01-04 Thread Jo Walsh
Looking at the @talk on preferred colours, there is space for a collective colour picker app. More fitting / less fitting, cartographically. I bumped a couple of key emails over to Steven Kay, the gifted cartographer in the Scottish community, i know he's done vaguely similar things before. He

Re: [OSM-talk] Monitoring route relations

2014-11-16 Thread Jo
, you'd need the scripting plugin and Jython. You'd also need to run an Overpass query each time you feel like checking the routes. Jo 2014-11-16 11:28 GMT+01:00 Dave F. : > On 16/11/2014 09:38, Volker Schmidt wrote: > >> I try to find a tool that continuously monitors all member

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

2014-08-28 Thread Jo
fficient. Anyway, my conclusion is that wikidata and *:wikidata tags are useful and the only way that makes sense to use them, is by adding them to the OSM objects themselves. Then when a node gets converted to a (closed) way or a way needs to be represented as a relation (multipolygon, maybe) the wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

2014-08-27 Thread Jo
And how exactly does one use Overpass then to extract that data once again from Openstreetmap? Jo 2014-08-28 0:08 GMT+02:00 Simon Poole : > > Given that Edward has written code that, as it seems, accurately > determines the corresponding wikidata objects for a given OSM entity, > I

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding Wikidata tags to 70k items automatically

2014-08-27 Thread Jo
I've been adding a few wikidata tags myself a few months ago (by hand). Examples are now in the following Wikipedia articles: https://nl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pater_Damiaan&diff=prev&oldid=40640633 It was undone, oh well. I'll never be a proper Wikipedian, I guess. https://nl.wikipedia

Re: [OSM-talk] route=road - What's that all about then?

2014-08-22 Thread Jo
Do I really hear you saying I should only map bus routes as relations where the ways are used by more than one route? and as route_ref tags on the stretches where that particular road is used only by a single bus line? How can one easily check whether the routes is continuous in that case? Jo

Re: [OSM-talk] Using Notes in France

2014-07-29 Thread Jo
I always thought Notes could work in 2 directions. It's sometimes easier to create a Note from OsmAND or Vespucci, than to do the mapping right there and then. Those are the Notes I usually resolve myself, after I come home, as it's easier to work on the data with JOSM. They can, of course serve a

Re: [OSM-talk] Best way to download data of route relations?

2014-03-26 Thread Jo
Unfortunately this seems to be specific to Overpass Turbo. It would be nice to see it as part of the Overpass API languages (themselves). Polyglot 2014-03-27 1:58 GMT+01:00 Pierre Béland : > I just learned about this interesting paremetrization with {{key}} > {{value}} > > > Pierre > > -

Re: [OSM-talk] [Wikidata-l] [OHM] Should we map former endonyms?

2014-03-20 Thread Jo
I think wikidata has the potential to tie it all together. There is no need to split the information over 2 databases. What would be nice, is a way to say: this object is now split/merged. Save the current version in OSM and save the historic version of those objects in OHM. And all the metadata a

Re: [OSM-talk] [OHM] Should we map former endonyms?

2014-03-19 Thread Jo
If you want to be able to specify more details like during which period the name was used, maybe it's an option to add it to wikidata. Polyglot 2014-03-19 22:15 GMT+01:00 Brad Neuhauser : > You can enter whatever language codes you want in the Multilingual Map > Test, so for Finnish just enter

Re: [OSM-talk] isolated odbl=clean nodes with no other tags?

2014-03-11 Thread Jo
You can safely remove it/them. You could also reuse it, but there is no point why you would do that, unless you figure out what the original mapper tried to add to the map by resurveying the area. Polyglot 2014-03-11 23:40 GMT+01:00 Richard Z. : > Hi, > > this caught my attention some time ago:

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap @Fosdem 2014

2014-01-05 Thread Jo
I will be there, but I'll be spending more time listening to talks than previous years this time. You can count on me for a few hours at the stand too. Polyglot 2013/12/22 Kathleen Danielson > Great! Will there be a sizeable OSM contingent at FOSDEM? > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 4:30 AM, RatZ

Re: [OSM-talk] Cyprous - postal codes

2013-12-26 Thread Jo
n the import list as well and there they will tell you to discuss it with the local community... Maybe you can find some contributors in the history of objects to consult with? Jo 2013/12/26 TDTwister Gmail > Hi Everybody, > > I manage to get a list of Cyprus postal codes from Cyprus Postal

Re: [OSM-talk] Bitcoin Spam

2013-12-03 Thread Jo
So these are not even the "shop owners" themselves which are spamming us with useless information? Jo 2013/12/4 Serge Wroclawski > Steve, > > You're right, in theory, but there's a bunch that Frederik has omitted. > > First, the coinmap people have not

Re: [OSM-talk] Living with 'improvements'

2013-09-02 Thread Jo
It's what we're doing here in Belgium as well, but then there are very few roads left where the default speed of 90km/h still applies... Jo 2013/9/2 Lester Caine > SomeoneElse wrote: > >> If the fix for this is to manually apply the national speed limit to every >&

Re: [OSM-talk] Who interprets semicolon in tag values?

2013-05-31 Thread Jo
egion and which buses pass by at what time . The script which creates an OSM file based upon this also populates route_ref. It is then very easy to find all stops served by a given line: RR route_ref="(^|.+;)17(;.+|$)" inview This is a regular expression search. Jo 2013/5/31 Joc

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM relation ID property in Wikidata

2013-05-07 Thread Jo
Say the supermarket downsizes and the other half of the building becomes used by another company. We split the building, creating 1 new building, glued to the original building. Now there is a 50% chance the existing building outline continues as the supermarket and 50% it's the new company continu

Re: [OSM-talk] Re : Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-15 Thread Jo
e of which language(s) they speak and understand. When trying to reach larger and larger crowds it's important to realise not everybody is very proficient in English. Jo 2013/4/15 Jean-Marc Liotier > On 04/15/2013 04:52 PM, Mikel Maron wrote: > > > I just would offer hint's t

Re: [OSM-talk] Interesting cases of vandalism?

2013-02-22 Thread Jo
> Other kind of "vandalism" are mappers who want to "correct" perceived > errors (they prefer different tags, or they have read in the wiki that > a certain tag is "deprecated" and so they delete these tags or change > them to other tags (that are maybe not in broader use)). This is > partly also h

[OSM-talk] Openstreetmap server down?

2013-02-19 Thread Jo
Hi, Is the server down? I can't up or download anymore since last night. Polyglot ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Is somebody eager to give a presentation about Openstreetmap at the RMLL in Brussels in July?

2013-02-12 Thread Jo
Hi people (sorry for crossposting, please remove the lists that don't apply when replying), The presentation should be in English even when the RMLL (Rencontres Mondiales du Logiciel Libre) have French roots. The local people will also organise a mapping party on the day which tries to reach the

Re: [OSM-talk] Overlapping ways

2013-01-09 Thread Jo
You can use the layer tag on one of both ways. It probably also needs bridge=yes. Jo 2013/1/9 Rob Nickerson > Hi List, > > If I have a situation (e.g. a 2 level carpark) where a road runs exactly > above another road, how do I map this? Currently I used layers but I have > fou

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Future Look

2013-01-06 Thread Jo
Maybe the home page should not have a map on it (it's only a sample of what is in the database anyway, which will always be lacking some feature). Instead it could have links to openlinkmap.org (which is what you seem to want), hikebikemap.de, http://demo.3liz.com/osmtransport/ and many more fine e

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-30 Thread Jo
. Thanks for this and best wishes, Jo 2012/12/30 Frederik Ramm > Hi, > >I've made a program that counts how many house numbers someone has > added. It uses object history, so it should be able to correctly "award" > the count to the person actually adding t

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-12-06 Thread Jo
c_transport=platform with highway=bus_stop. Grüsse, Jo ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Recommendations for OSM mobile app?

2012-11-29 Thread Jo
I already 'discovered'/Bing/Mapnik). I should figure out how I could add the hiking symbols from Lonvia someday... Still I think with all the other requirements you have, OsmAND is your best bet. Jo 2012/11/29 Steve Bennett > Hi Jo, > Yeah, OsmAnd does everything - but it'

Re: [OSM-talk] Recommendations for OSM mobile app?

2012-11-27 Thread Jo
I wanted to tell you a few days ago that OsmAnd does all you want. Maybe write a small manual page for it, for the subset of features your users need. I didn't do it then, hoping somebody else would have a better suggestion. Polyglot 2012/11/24 Steve Bennett > Hi all, > I'm looking for a rec

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-19 Thread Jo
I always read that paragraph as something transitional. But apparently transition doesn't happen over 1,5 years, maybe 15 years is more realistic. Although I'd expect another proposal would have emerged and possibly approved by then... Hopefully one that allows for route relations to be composed of

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-19 Thread Jo
In that case I don't see the usefulness of adding public_transport=platform to the stops and I'll simply ignore that part of the wiki page from now on. Status quo rules, but that's all right. Cheers, Polyglot 2012/11/19 Martin Koppenhöfer > > > Am 19/nov/2012 um 00:16

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-18 Thread Jo
ated with a Python script I wrote to check cycle and walking node routes for continuity, that could be easily adapted for the purpose. Cheers, Polyglot 2012/11/18 John F. Eldredge > Jo wrote: > > > I don't mark all the stop positions. To me they are less importan

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-17 Thread Jo
The discussion/argument needs to be had anyway, so that is not a bad thing. I also liked that public transport is in its own namespace now. To keep things simple it's probably a good thing that we don't have a separate public_transport=pole or public_transport=flag. I don't mark all the stop posi

Re: [OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-17 Thread Jo
If there is an actual platform, I tend to create way for it. Until now I added both highway=platform and public_transport=platform to them. As far as I'm concerned, that's tagging for the renderer though. I could, of course, add both highway=bus_stop and public_transport=platform to the 4 stops

[OSM-talk] public_transport=platform not rendered

2012-11-17 Thread Jo
Hi, In April 2011 a new schema was approved for tagging bus stops. I've been holding off for 1,5 years, but now I started to retag highway=bus_stop to public_transport=platform. The stops don't get rendered anymore though. Do I have to go back and readd highway=bus_stop to all of them, or will th

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Jo
2012/10/18 Frederik Ramm > Hi, > > > On 10/18/12 14:41, Pieren wrote: > >> It's more than 5 minutes if you have to create first a new email >> account (I know now all the tricks to duplicate our first email >> account but then explain why a different email address is still >> required) then spend

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-17 Thread Jo
(Désolé d'envoyer ce mail en anglais sur la liste talk-fr, mais c'est plutôt dirigé vers talk en général) I have been following talk-fr myself and my opinion on the 'efforts' of pnorman is that he is trying very hard to chase away well meaning contributors in France. The French cadastre is just on

Re: [OSM-talk] News report license switch done

2012-09-08 Thread Jo
At the very least on the talk maling list, from where others can translate it and announce it on the language/country specific lists. Who reads that blog anyway? I hadn't even heard of it until you mentioned it and I'm an old timer on this project. Polyglot 2012/9/8 Martijn van Exel > Stephan,

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-07-26 Thread Jo
2012/7/26 Tirkon > Frederik Ramm wrote: > > >1. The concrete question: Should all name tag in the Crimea be in > >Russian (with appropriate name:uk tags of course), even though the > >official language in Ukraine is Ukrainian? > > In Belgium there is a heavy language dispute between frensh speak

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-07-25 Thread Jo
2012/7/25 Lester Caine > "Petr Morávek [Xificurk]" wrote: > >> Actually 'lang' could be populated from a higher level area setting >>> >initially? >>> >> Well, it could be... but I'm not really a fan of this idea, because... >> You would need to do a spatial query to get the setting from the high

Re: [OSM-talk] Very Happy - Looking forward

2012-07-24 Thread Jo
I wouldn't want Vespucci to draw a way based on a GPS trace. It does one better: The GPS trace is drawn as a blue line and in the background it provides Bing tiles (or map tiles, if you'd prefer those). So a way can be drawn based on a GPS trace combined with aerial imagery. OK, it's not automatic

Re: [OSM-talk] Very not happy

2012-07-20 Thread Jo
I understand your reaction, but this has been announced for a long time now. Around where I live and practically in all of Belgium hardly anything disappeared. This is due to the hard work of myself and others to remap non ODBL compliant stuff before the bot ran. I've also been contacting people, t

Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction progress

2012-07-15 Thread Jo
2012/7/15 Richard Weait > On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 9:16 AM, kenneth gonsalves > wrote: > > On Sun, 2012-07-15 at 11:46 +0100, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > >> The redaction bot has started on the 'Western Europe' area. Because > >> continents are annoyingly not shaped like rectangles, > > > > this i

Re: [OSM-talk] [Imports] Suspend Imports / Bulk edits / Bots

2012-07-12 Thread Jo
Globally. There is only one database for the whole world, so only one database server that load needs to be kept off. At night (in Europe), when it can't be supervised the redaction bot doesn't seem to run though... But maybe that's only in the beginning, when it needs to be carefully monitored. P

Re: [OSM-talk] Disconnected streets in Lima

2012-05-02 Thread Jo
Hi, As you can see here, local people are becoming active themselves in Peru (and Lima): http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-pe/2012-April/thread.html Maybe you can write a mail in English to their list. At least some of them will be able to communicate in English. I'm sure they'll wel

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM @ FOSDEM!

2012-02-13 Thread Jo
2012/2/13 Michael Kugelmann > Hello all, > > following my short summary of the FOSDEM 2012 at the first weekend in > February at Brussels. > > As discussed in advance we had an OSM stand at the FOSDEM. > See e.g. at > http://www.openstreetmap.fr/f/**IMG_3746_web.jpg

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Mixing OSM and FOSM data

2012-01-18 Thread Jo
If these people's contributions to those objects were 'negligeable' then reverting those objects may hardly have an effect. They show green so we don't have to waste precious time 'fixing' them. If what those people contributed is not present anymore in the current version, then why would other con

Re: [OSM-talk] The aim of OpenStreetView

2012-01-06 Thread Jo
I upload all the photos I took during my mapping journeys. I'm not a photographer and I'm sure a photographer would abhorr those pictures. Sometimes taken from a riding bicycle or a moving horse... They are meant to be informative, that's all. Openstreetview.org will never be a direct competitor t

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] OSM @ FOSDEM?

2012-01-05 Thread Jo
I will be at FOSDEM as well. I can be at the stand for a couple of hours on Saturday and on Sunday. Not all the time, as I'd like to go and discover all the goodies a bit too. I just got a brand new Android Tablet on which I installed Vespucci and OsmAnd and I have some other devices which are use

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM @ FOSDEM?

2012-01-04 Thread Jo
I missed FOSDEM last year, what was done then? I can also help out this year. Gael Musquet asked for a stand, but I don't know what the decision of the FOSDEM team has been wrt it. I'm on their mailing list and I just perused their web site, but can't find anything. Polyglot 2012/1/4 eMerzh > H

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM error when trying to save a local copy

2011-12-29 Thread Jo
Hi John, I just downloaded 4738 and I was able to save to a local file. I had some trouble adding the improveWayAccuracy plugin, but I think it's due to a flaky internet connection. After 3 retries with Update Plugins, JOSM told me they're all up to date now. Polyglot 2011/12/30 john whelan >

Re: [OSM-talk] Vista eTrex 10,20,30 series

2011-12-20 Thread Jo
Here I show another method: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqZj1rs3Ul0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=180InFUZiDI Polyglot 2011/12/21 Mike N > A common method of photo surveying in OSM is to take a picture of the GPS > while it displays the GPS Satellite time. On the eTrex 30, I can only >

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] License Change View on OSM Inspector

2011-12-17 Thread Jo
I put up a video where I do some remapping. I'd like to hear whether I can add this to the wiki as a good way to go about it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaJ3DAFTjX8 Polyglot 2011/12/13 Frederik Ramm > Hi, > > apologies if this is the 2nd or 3rd time you're reading this, I have > posted

Re: [OSM-talk] Editing of content that will be deleted on April 1st

2011-12-13 Thread Jo
The numbers come from Frederik's map and some areas really look dramatic. odbl.poole.ch and http://odbl.de come to very optimistic conclusions. Possibly because they only consider the last contributor to an object or another metric which doesn't hold water. Jo 2011/12/14 Simon Poole

Re: [OSM-talk] Editing of content that will be deleted on April 1st

2011-12-13 Thread Jo
2011/12/14 David Earl > > > On Tuesday, December 13, 2011, Jo wrote: > > Critical mass is there, at a ratio of more than a 100/1 and that is of > the people who had to speak out their opinion. > > That's not the point. Since not making a decision is the same as de

Re: [OSM-talk] Editing of content that will be deleted on April 1st

2011-12-13 Thread Jo
Critical mass is there, at a ratio of more than a 100/1 and that is of the people who had to speak out their opinion. As far as I'm concerned, I don't have a doubt the license change will proceed. So remapping makes a lot of sense from now on and I'm glad I'm not the only one who is doing it any mo

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