I posted early this month about the launch of G'o, the replacement
for 'mom'. Lots of people have visited the website (poco.org.uk/go)
and downloaded the application but a few have reported being unable
to run it. This is entirely my fault. I accidentally left some
development diagnostics
The New Year saw the withdrawal of my mom application for mobile
phones and the launch of its successor, G'o. The basic version is
still free and registering as a user (for a small charge) unlocks
many new and extra features. A basic version of mom is retained,
renamed MiniMom, for users
name?) to expire. Now, is
that 50 or 60 years? I forget. Correction: I don't care.
elvin ibbotson
From: David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 1 December 2008 10:52:23 GMT
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Postcode searches in Namefinder
UK postcodes as well as being distinctive
There are already a few tags suitable for archaeological/historical
sites but there is also my idea for time-based tagging which would
make historical/future mapping more practical. It's on the wiki as a
proposal at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Timeline_tags
elvin ibbotson
From
metaphor switch there) I
worry it could become a garden overgrown with brambles - full of good
things impossible to harvest.
/rant
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So, Richard thinks we should take him (just a guess, I suspect there
are more mappers of this gender) outside and shoot him, while Etienne
thinks we should give him a cigar. Me, I'm all for compromise: give
him a cigar and shoot him :-)
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From: Mark Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 31 October 2008 07:21:30 GMT
To: Chris Browet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: OSM-Talk talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] I've added some amenity values to Map
Features based on tag usage
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Chris
. Doctor's sounds a bit
common to me. Surgery is far better...
Cheers,
Lucas
a bit common
Should we have a discussion on which is U or non-U: public toilets,
public lavatories, or public loos?
Or does public sound a bit common?
elvin ibbotson, common
From: Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 31 October 2008 16:31:03 GMT
To: elvin ibbotson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Talk Openstreetmap talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] I've added some amenity values to
MapFeatures based on tag usage
From: Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
Valent Turkovic wrote:
... Asus eee 701 is cheap and great little and
very portable laptop - just perfect for mapping! I hope you find this
howto helpful.
... If you have bluetooth GPS dongle that you have laying around,
or can
borrow one from somebody, and like driving a bike or a car around
On 10 Oct 2008, at 15:06, Jonathan Bennett wrote:
elvin ibbotson wrote:
Steve,
It looks like fakeSteveC or someone is pretending to be you and
posting
elitist, patronising, condescending rubbish in an apparent
attempt to
make you look foolish. I look forward to it being demonstrated
From: John McKerrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 19 September 2008 21:34:09 BDT
Cc: OSM Talk talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering by selecting data based on
created date?
On 16 Sep 2008, at 13:45, Frederik Ramm wrote:
hI,
I've had a idea that i'll be able to take a
Another excellent routing service!
A question:
Is there an API? Is it possible to query the routing engine
programmatically?
(I would like to be able to send a query from my mom application
running in Java ME on a mobile phone.)
elvin
From: Lambertus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 6 September
and
viewing maps, so concentrating on using and editing data is probably
the right approach.
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On 20 Aug 2008, at 11:43, Tim Waters (chippy) wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but MOM development is closed, right? It's
not FOSS?
So why is there a requirement for a new OSM mailing list for mom
development, when the OSM community cannot develop it? Perhaps this
email subject is misleading
?
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or JOSM but could need a great deal of
programming skill.
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for this
be? How could this be synchronised with the logging to avoid
clicking way points. Or can it?
Have a look at mom (http://mom.poco.org.uk) which allows audio-
annotated waypoints when logging tracks using a mobile phone and GPS.
elvin ibbotson
On 15 Aug 2008, at 12:20, Gert Gremmen wrote:
It seems as if the dowload site still offers
only 1.2.4 ….
I checked the mom.jad file for it
and it says 1.2.4
I saw none of the new options either….
Gert
My mistake - sorry!
Anyone who tried to download mom v.1.2.5 before 13:00 UK time toady
From: Patrick Aljord [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 13 August 2008 23:49:02 BDT
To: Talk Openstreetmap talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] latest release of mom
On Wed, Aug 13, 2008 at 7:49 AM, elvin ibbotson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Aha! but you missed the hidden code which causes your
From: Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 12 August 2008 20:43:18 BDT
To: OSM Talk talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] latest release of mom
2008/8/13 elvin ibbotson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Those of you with mobile phones (especially if they have built-in
GPS or you
also have
the hidden code which causes your computer to
explode if you just enter '@'.
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Those of you with mobile phones (especially if they have built-in GPS
or you also have a Bluetooth GPS) may be interested to know I have
just released the latest version (1.2.5) of my mobile open maps (mom)
application. More details at the website or on the wiki.
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the byre
From: Pieren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 18 July 2008 22:14:32 BDT
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [OSM-talk] path or byway ?
Dear talk,
Could some native english speaker explain the difference between
highway=path and highway=byway recently introduced in map
features ?
The description is
From: Igor Brejc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 17 July 2008 20:19:02 BDT
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [OSM-talk] OSM maps in 3D
Hi,
I've started playing around using DirectX in combination with SRTM
data to draw 3D relief OSM maps. The plan is to add this feature to
Kosmos. Please visit
On 18 Jul 2008, at 09:35, Robert Vollmert wrote:
On Jul 18, 2008, at 09:27, elvin ibbotson wrote:
Very nice but it needs DirectX. I cut my map programming teeth on
a viewer for British OS maps which uses Java 3D (http://
britain.poco.org.uk/desktop.html). I can’t share it because
From: Simon Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 18 July 2008 09:25:55 BDT
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM maps in 3D
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 08:27:56AM +0100, elvin ibbotson wrote:
Why not use Java instead of Microsoft stuff then it would run on
anything.
Java doesn’t
From: Steve Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9 July 2008 15:36:03 BDT
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [OSM-talk] Misclassified roads
Following the approval of the highway=road tag, I've set about
aggressively changing a lot of the highway=unclassified roads
around Swansea, that I believe are
2008/6/24 SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
So it would be nice if we could tag how things sound as well as what
they're called.
First you need to decide how things sound. For example, Redcar is
pronounced Redker by locals but red car by most others and Greenhill
(in my home town of Sheffield) is
From: Nick Whitelegg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 11 June 2008 12:30:59 BDT
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [OT] OSM based photo catalogue
Part of what I'm working on with Freemap (www.free-map.org.uk) is
developing mobile software (Freemap Mobile, see post a few days
ago) to
For those of you who didn't spot it, I released mom at the start of
June (and there's a wiki page too). Mom runs on phones, uses OSM maps
(scales 3-15) and saves GPX tracks. (Oh, and it's free :-)
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the byre | ecclesbourne lane | idridgehay | derbyshire | DE56 2SB
01773
From: Andrew Chadwick (email lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9 June 2008 11:43:03 BDT
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Don't you just hate it when part 2...
Vincent Zweije wrote:
Hmm... everyone should be wearing their OSM shirt or other mark while
mapping... you'd have have
From: SteveC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9 June 2008 12:44:49 BDT
To: 80n [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: OSM Talk talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] noname streets
coz it makes me think of no=yes
and that would just be silly
On 9 Jun 2008, at 12:43, 80n wrote:
noname=yes seems like
This topic reminded me of some thoughts I had about time-based
tagging but did not pursue. I have a professional interest in planned
features but a leisure interest in historic features such as ancient
roads. The OSM database could include both these types of feature but
for general
On 30 May 2008, at 00:19, Dave Stubbs wrote:
This strand of the discussion (below) though echoes the earlier
thread I
kicked off (but gave up pursuing because there seemed to be more
prejudice
than logic in the discussion) about the idea of numerically-based
properties
in the database
From: Sebastian Spaeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 30 May 2008 14:16:59 BDT
Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] National borders in the British Islands
elvin ibbotson wrote:
As I understand it the numbers are not the problem, it
arises from people not knowing which is the right
a national/state level boundary around our village and
name it Isle of Man, resulting in some worthwhile reductions in taxes
and a free grandstand seat for the TT races next month :-)
elvin ibbotson
From: Shaun McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 29 May 2008 13:43:43 BDT
To: Bruce Cowan [EMAIL
Anyone involved with the National Trust? Apparently they are mapping
every plant in their gardens all over Britain. Do they know they just
need OSM and a few new tags (plant=nettle for example).
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7395915.stm
elvin ibbotson
of which (like name=)
require user direct input.
From: Jeffrey Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9 May 2008 15:09:39 BDT
To: elvin ibbotson [EMAIL PROTECTED], OSM Talk
talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering
The rendering should be separate from the data. Marking
or carretera
general.
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On 9 May 2008, at 11:05, Dave Stubbs wrote:
As far as I see it there is no difference between mapping 11=autobahn,
and mapping motorway=autobahn.
I think you missed the point. At present we have highway=motorway and
I believe a German user would need to use these words. What I suggest
is
On 9 May 2008, at 12:21, Dave Stubbs wrote:
The mapping to numbers doesn't gain us anything. It doesn't let us do
anything we can't already do, or make it any easier as far as I can
see.
If the database, which is accessed by programmers, was numerically
based, it would be be more amenable
On 9 May 2008, at 14:56, Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio wrote:
Hi,
the last line of your messge looks like a triple parallelism. Just
to be precise: we are tagging 'autopistas' and 'autovias' as
motorways, 'carreteras nacionales' as trunks and main regional
roads as primary (for example, the
On 9 May 2008, at 16:48, Dave Stubbs wrote:
There are some genuine problems that need solving -- tag translation,
tagging hierarchies, tag documentation and guides, and some bad tags
in common use to name but a few.
Here we agree.
Unfortunately people seem most interested in solving
On 9 May 2008, at 14:51, Vincent MEURISSE wrote:
You can look at merkaartor. It implement something like that. When you
draw a road, it show up a translated list for the tags. I thing that
an editor must hide tags for most usages to avoid tagging errors and
allows power users to change row
bitmaps from SRTM sources is not difficult and
these could be used as backgrounds to the rendered OSM data.
elvin ibbotson
On 8 May 2008, at 10:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 8 May 2008 03:32:42 BDT
To: osm Talk talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [OSM
and from what you say no-
one has even started coding another Flash editor, so why not take
some time out as you suggest and let the dust settle. I bet if you
rebuilt Potlatch from the bottom up, using a better language, it
would be all that any of us could ask for.
elvin ibbotson
From
From: Martijn van Oosterhout [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 April 2008 20:57:45 BDT
... But one thing I learned from mapping my own area: the maps you
buy are *wrong* in so many places. Maybe easter eggs, maybe bugs. In
either case, don't make the assumption that just because you paid
money for
uses a copyrighted route name
without proper attribution.
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Most people already have a mobile phone and simple Bluetooth GPS
receivers without displays or keypads are cheap to buy, small, very
easy to use (mine has one buttonand two LEDs) and lighter on
batteries than Garmins and the like. I have not used an up-to-date
GPS but used to have a Garmin
I too am relatively new to OSM and occasionally bemused by the arcane
debates on the talk list.
Those who know about database theory should be able to decide on the
merits of namespaces. I can see the value of a structured,
hierarchical approach provided it is implemented in a way we
OK, now we're completely off the original topic :-)
Thanks for the tip, Richard. I hope I'm not the only user who didn't
know that.
elvin ibbotson
From: Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 25 April 2008 14:03:26 BDT
To: OSM Talk talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk
simply (as if anything was ever simple :-)
caching the SVG between running Osmarender and converting SVG to
bitmaps?
On 21 Apr 2008, at 18:00, 80n wrote:
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 2:33 PM, elvin ibbotson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
poco.org.uk
I have developed a mobile-phone Java app (called
On 21 Apr 2008, at 18:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Tom Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 21 April 2008 14:48:56 BDT
To: talk@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] SVG tiles
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED]
elvin ibbotson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had been intending to get round
As an architect I spend a lot of time using mapping 'beyond zoom 18'
and have contributed a lot of stealth taxes to the British government
paying through the nose for Ordnance Survey site plans (another
debate altogether). Accurate data for building footprints (we'd best
keep out of
I want to experiment with the mobile OSM binary data protocol
mentioned in the Development section of the wiki but I am not sure
how to get hold of the data. The wiki page suggests a URL like this
bmap.php?tile=257882462ts=29have=41 but this is not a complete URL
and being relatively new
poco.org.uk
I have developed a mobile-phone Java app (called 'mom') to navigate
OSM maps and save GPX tracks (amongst other things) which will soon
be out there for people to download. It uses mapnick PNG tiles at 5
of OSM's scales (3, 6, 9, 12 15) which look nice but are quite big
I'm sure any paraglider folk using the map would be glad to see power
line on there. Preferably as broad red lines! They are seriously bad
news and surprisingly difficult to pick out when they're not
silhouetted against the sky.
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On 20 Mar 2008, at 10:05, Steve Hill wrote:
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, elvin ibbotson wrote:
Treating contours as shape files seems to me to be heavy on
storage, downloads and processing. I have made a proposal in the
wiki at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/
Relief_maps#a_proposal
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