Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-21 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hi Frederik, I agree - but only in parts. If the other mapper shares nodes between the road and the field, and the field is surrounded (and tagged as such) with a fence, so the field is e.g. landuse=farmland, barrier=fence, then this is an error in the map as it states that the fence is in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch deprecation

2014-02-21 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:51 PM, Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com wrote: When I cannot use JOSM for any reason, I'm still using P2 to retrieve the history of an object and P1 is the only one I know which is able to find and display deleted ways. Two helpful features for data

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-21 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: If the other mapper shares nodes between the road and the field, and the field is surrounded (and tagged as such) with a fence, so the field is e.g. landuse=farmland, barrier=fence, then this is an error in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-21 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 21.02.2014 10:44, schrieb Pieren: On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de wrote: If the other mapper shares nodes between the road and the field, and the field is surrounded (and tagged as such) with a fence, so the field is e.g. landuse=farmland,

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for Developers Presentation

2014-02-21 Thread Tom Hukins
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 02:53:24PM +0700, Kate Chapman wrote: I'm giving a talk this weekend at the Jakarta Python meet-up. I was wondering if anyone has a good Intro to OSM for Developers talk. Hi, Kate. I gave a 20 minute OpenStreetMap for Perl Developers talk recently. I didn't have time to

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-21 Thread Dave F.
On 20/02/2014 22:40, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 20.02.2014 23:04, Dave F. wrote: There's a general consensus that attaching polygons to ways that represent roads was a bad idea. Not really. There is not a consensus but a ceasefire. Everyone is free to map this as they like, and to change it

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-21 Thread Bráulio
Agreed. If you have a property that is 20m x 100m = 2,000m², you could be adding, for example, 5m x 100m = 500m² to it by attaching it to the road, resulting in 2500m², i.e., a *25% increase in area*. A really big accuracy error, in my opinion. On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Dave F.

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch deprecation

2014-02-21 Thread Fernando Trebien
Indeed that's a nice feature I've known to be unique to Potlatch. Anyway, I might have been misinformed about Potlatch being deprecated (if it was, I was trying to ask people to hurry), but since it's not, I'm not asking for it either. Instead, the issues I've pointed out

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-21 Thread Lester Caine
Dave F. wrote: This whole question is essentially a matter of taste, and you are allowed to map according to your taste, and discouraged from enforcing your taste for others. Disagree again, I'm afraid. Improving OSM's accuracy supersedes taste. To clarify I'm only referring to instances of

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for Developers Presentation

2014-02-21 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello Kate, I gave this talk at a British Computer Society meeting last year: http://www.free-map.org.uk/~nick/OSM_0313.odp Not hugely in-depth but might be of some use. Nick -Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: - To: osm talk@openstreetmap.org From: Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM for Developers Presentation

2014-02-21 Thread Graham Jones
Kate, I put together a little explanation of the rendering side of OSM a few years ago: http://www.slideshare.net/jones139/rendering-openstreetmap-data-using-mapnik . It might be out of date now though! Graham. On 21 February 2014 18:38, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.ukwrote: Hello

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-21 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 21/02/2014, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 20/02/2014 22:40, Frederik Ramm wrote: On 20.02.2014 23:04, Dave F. wrote: What is *not* ok is one person cleaning up after the other without actually adding any other improvement. In cases that can be likened to a change code

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-21 Thread Yves
There are many mapping alternatives that are a matter of taste or up for debate. But I do think that this particular issue is matematically clear-cut, it's basic geometry. See

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:29 PM, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.comwrote: I agree with the matter of taste argument insofar as I dont complain to mappers who initially glue areas to lines. It's just data that can be improved like any other, and if it tastes easyer to that mapper, it's

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch deprecation

2014-02-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
I think all three major editors make it too easy to damage relations. And that starting to damage a relation (by a user) is a perfect teaching opportunity. The moment someone deletes part of a boundary relation, is the perfect teaching moment about boundary relations.

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch deprecation

2014-02-21 Thread Fernando Trebien
It is not that easy to damage relations in JOSM. Sure, you can, but you get blocking warnings: once, when you change the relation indirectly (perhaps breaking it), and another (issued by JOSM's very comprehensive validator) by the time you attempt to upload your changes. Both warnings stop your

Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo Import

2014-02-21 Thread Stefano Salvador
IMVHO se vi danno i dati sabato è abbastanza difficile caricarli il giorno stesso. Il Data Working Group oramai richiede tutta una serie di attenzioni e pianificazioni negli import (giustamente) che possono essere fatti solo una volta che avete i dati in mano. Secondo me è più realistico

Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo Import

2014-02-21 Thread Aury88
Stefano Salvador wrote IMVHO se vi danno i dati sabato è abbastanza difficile caricarli il giorno stesso. ... Secondo me è più realistico programmare per sabato tutte le attività di controllo dei dati e pianificazione dell'import, poi potete contattare il DWG e aspettare le loro indicazioni.

Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo Import

2014-02-21 Thread Eduard Natale
Se si conosce la struttura del file la pianificazione la si può fare a monte. Il controllo dei dati sicuramente sabato. Avete effettuato già degli import? Il 21/feb/2014 09:36 Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com ha scritto: Stefano Salvador wrote IMVHO se vi danno i dati sabato è abbastanza

Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo Import

2014-02-21 Thread Simone Cortesi
Se sei nuovo di osm, è meglio andarci molto cauti con un import. -- Sent from my rotary phone. Not a fruit. On Feb 21, 2014 9:50 AM, Eduard Natale eduard.nat...@gmail.com wrote: Se si conosce la struttura del file la pianificazione la si può fare a monte. Il controllo dei dati sicuramente

Re: [Talk-it] Catasto Trentino

2014-02-21 Thread Andrea De Gradi
I dati sono pubblicati sotto licenza CC-BY, è compatibile con la licenza di OSM che prevede solo l'attribuzione al progetto e non di certo alla provincia di Trento? Il 20/feb/2014 22:27 Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto: Come credo sappiate la Provincia Autonoma di Trento ha

Re: [Talk-it] Catasto Trentino

2014-02-21 Thread Simone Cortesi
Sì è compatibile -- Sent from my rotary phone. Not a fruit. On Feb 21, 2014 9:56 AM, Andrea De Gradi dega...@gmail.com wrote: I dati sono pubblicati sotto licenza CC-BY, è compatibile con la licenza di OSM che prevede solo l'attribuzione al progetto e non di certo alla provincia di Trento?

Re: [Talk-it] parzialemte OT: codifica per OSMWIKY

2014-02-21 Thread Aury88
per le way {{BrowseWay|way-id}} per i nodi {{BrowseNode|node-id}} - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/parzialemte-OT-codifica-per-OSMWIKY-tp5796974p5796988.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Talk-it] parzialemte OT: codifica per OSMWIKY

2014-02-21 Thread Aury88
no, aspetta, non sembrano funzionare :( prova il template Way {{Way|way-id}} - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/parzialemte-OT-codifica-per-OSMWIKY-tp5796974p5796989.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Talk-it] stazioni meteo e errore coordinate WTOSM

2014-02-21 Thread Simone F.
Il giorno 20 febbraio 2014 17:48, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha scritto: 2014-02-17 13:27 GMT+01:00 Simone F. grop...@gmail.com: Non sono mai stato convinto che sia stata una buona idea aggiungere la categoria Stazioni meteorologiche d'Italia. Non è una categoria così importante e

[Talk-it] R: parzialemte OT: codifica per OSMWIKY

2014-02-21 Thread Giuseppe Amici
PERFETTO! Mille grazie. Ma un elenco di questi template dove si trova? Beppe -Messaggio originale- Da: Aury88 [mailto:spacedrive...@gmail.com] Inviato: venerdì 21 febbraio 2014 10:24 A: talk-it@openstreetmap.org Oggetto: Re: [Talk-it] parzialemte OT: codifica per OSMWIKY no, aspetta,

Re: [Talk-it] R: parzialemte OT: codifica per OSMWIKY

2014-02-21 Thread Aury88
di nulla ;) non so se esiste un vero e proprio template...io ho trovato quei template per tentativi. puoi provare a mettere nel campo di ricerca Template: e poi nei risultati di ricerca schiacciare su avanzata e impostare non su (main) o (principale) ma su template. - Ciao, Aury -- View

Re: [Talk-it] stazioni meteo e errore coordinate WTOSM

2014-02-21 Thread Simone Cortesi
2014-02-21 13:20 GMT+01:00 Simone F. grop...@gmail.com: inoltre, non capisco perche', sebbene abbia corretto questo: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roca_Vecchia e messe le coordinate corrette del laesino in provincia di Lecce, esso appaia ancora in WTOSM in mezzo al mare. Si erano fermati

Re: [Talk-it] Aggiornamenti statistiche GFOss su OSM

2014-02-21 Thread Simone Cortesi
2014-02-18 11:48 GMT+01:00 Diego Guidotti - Aedit s.r.l. guido...@aedit.it: il server che ospitava le statistiche non ce la faceva ad aggiornarle, sono riuscito a resuscitare il sito su un altro server. http://95.240.35.64:8181/osmstat/ La soluzione è temporanea, ma intanto dovreste accedere

Re: [Talk-it] [Talk-it-trentino] Catasto Trentino

2014-02-21 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
pensi ad un import? mi piacerebbe, anche ragionando su strumenti che controllano gli aggiornamenti fra le due basi dati. Sul piano delle licenze non ci sono problemi, la questione è invece sulle geometrie. La proiezione usata da dati è necessaria. I ho assegnato una ETRS89 - UTM32N in quanto ho

[Talk-it] Presto in arrivo gli open data del Friuli Venezia Giulia

2014-02-21 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
L'assessore regionale per la funzione pubblica Paolo Panontin annuncia il rilascio di una legge sull'open data per sostenere sviluppo e imprese http://www.regione.fvg.it/rafvg/comunicati/comunicato.act?dir=/rafvg/cms/RAFVG/notiziedallagiunta/nm=20140221170152017 Qui l'intervista audio

[Talk-it] AMAT - primo changeset

2014-02-21 Thread Simone Cortesi
Ciao, sono felice di annunciarvi che AMAT ha appena effettuato il primo changeset live su OpenStreetMap. http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20698725 Si tratta di una piccola correzione nel nome di una via, che ne va a completare la toponomastica, espandendola dall'esistente Via Montecuccoli

Re: [Talk-it] AMAT - primo changeset

2014-02-21 Thread yahoo-pier_andreit
On 02/21/2014 07:05 PM, Simone Cortesi wrote: Ciao, sono felice di annunciarvi che AMAT ha appena effettuato il primo changeset live su OpenStreetMap. http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20698725 Si tratta di una piccola correzione nel nome di una via, che ne va a completare la

Re: [Talk-it] AMAT - primo changeset

2014-02-21 Thread cesare gerbino
Ottimo! Complimenti !! E' possibile avere proma o poi dei dettagli tecnici ed organizzativi di come è stato gestito il tutto? Credo che questa possa essere un'ottima best practise a cui si potrebbe far riferimento Il tutto avviene usando un plugin josm custom, rilasciato opensource e già

[Talk-it] Mappiamo quel che c'è sul territorio

2014-02-21 Thread Francesco Pelullo
E' possibile osservare scrupolosamente questo mantra? http://bologna.repubblica.it/cronaca/2014/02/21/foto/la_festa_delle_parole_sbagliate_quando_l_errore_diventa_arte-79256708/1/?ref=fbpr#21 Ciao /niubii/ ___ Talk-it mailing list

[Talk-it] R: Nuovo Import

2014-02-21 Thread Giuseppe Amici
“OSM ha ormai troppi dati per effettuare un import frettoloso” Questa non la capisco? Puoi spiegarmi meglio cosa centra la dimensione del database di OSM con un import? Grazie Beppe Da: Stefano Salvador [mailto:stefano.salva...@gmail.com] Inviato: venerdì 21 febbraio 2014 09:30 A:

[Talk-it] Data Working Group

2014-02-21 Thread Giuseppe Amici
Chi è, cosa fa il Data Working Group? Come si interfaccia con gli utenti e con i gruppi come il list-italiano? Quale autorità ha? Come esercita questa autorità? Chi ha dato a questo DWG questa autorità? Saluti Beppe ___ Talk-it mailing list

Re: [Talk-it] Nuovo Import

2014-02-21 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
Ciao, fossi in te oggi agirei in maniera diversa All'opendataday suppongo ci saranno diverse persone che avranno anche voglia di imparare come si inseriscono dati in OpenStreetMap quindi fare con loro un percorso manuale è, secondo me, vincente. Aggiungi che i dati vanno verificati quindi

Re: [Talk-it] Data Working Group

2014-02-21 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
È tutto scritto qui http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data_working_group È una iniziativa della OSM Foundation Affronta il problema a livello internazionale e, chiunque (compresi gli iscritti a questa ML), si riferisce a quel gruppi di volontari per questioni di problemi sui dati Il 22/feb/2014

Re: [Talk-it] [Talk-it-trentino] Catasto Trentino

2014-02-21 Thread Aury88
ciao, scusa la domanda sicuramente stupida. Come fai a capire che quell'offset è dovuto ad un riferimento della mappa diverso e non ad un offset presente nella ortofoto usata per ricalcare i profili degli edifici? - Ciao, Aury -- View this message in context:

[Talk-at] at.geoview.info

2014-02-21 Thread Johannes Silly
Hallo liebe Kollegen hab gerade die Seite gefunden finde sie etwas komisch, was meint ihr? http://geoview.info/ -Da man OSM Daten angezeigt bekommt aber Google Karten hinterlegt sind. -Warum nimmt den der Betreiber eigentlich nicht gleich die OSM Karte, da er anscheinend nur einzelne tiles

[Talk-at] Als Punkt-POIs getaggte Flächen

2014-02-21 Thread Kevin Kofler
Hallo, kann bitte jemand dem User gerdi4711 erklären, daß es nicht sinnvoll ist, FKK-Bereiche (die geometrisch eindeutig Flächen sind) durch massenhaft Punkte mit name=FKK-Bereich (wobei auch die Verwendung des name=-Tags fragwürdig ist) zu taggen? Ich habe es probiert (nachdem ich von ihm per

Re: [Talk-at] Als Punkt-POIs getaggte Flächen

2014-02-21 Thread Christian Aigner
Ich bin gerade am Übersiedeln und daher ist meine Zeit etwas knapp. Wenn aber nächste Woche alles erledigt ist, werde ich dem User mal schreiben. LG, Christian Am 22.02.2014 04:31, schrieb Kevin Kofler: Hallo, kann bitte jemand dem User gerdi4711 erklären, daß es nicht sinnvoll ist,

Re: [Talk-at] Als Punkt-POIs getaggte Flächen

2014-02-21 Thread Stefan Tauner
On Sat, 22 Feb 2014 04:31:27 +0100 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Hallo, kann bitte jemand dem User gerdi4711 erklären, daß es nicht sinnvoll ist, FKK-Bereiche (die geometrisch eindeutig Flächen sind) durch massenhaft Punkte mit name=FKK-Bereich (wobei auch die Verwendung des

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Talk-ca] Nouvelle licence de données ouvertes au Québec

2014-02-21 Thread Diane Mercier
Municipalities and government of Québec will adopt the CC BY 4.0 Diane Le 2014-02-21 07:04, Simon Poole a écrit : This is I believe a simple misunderstanding: le...@osmfoundation.org is the internal list of the LWG legal-talk@openstreetmap.org is the legal discussion mailing list open to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Talk-ca] Nouvelle licence de données ouvertes au Québec

2014-02-21 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Eh good news for OSM-Quebec community then. Let's wait for the official confirmation of the exact license adopted. I disagree. Any license drafted or adopted by a Canadian government, other than a no-restrictions,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Talk-ca] Nouvelle licence de données ouvertes au Québec

2014-02-21 Thread Mike Linksvayer
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Eh good news for OSM-Quebec community then. Let's wait for the official confirmation of the exact license adopted. I disagree. Any license

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Talk-ca] Nouvelle licence de données ouvertes au Québec

2014-02-21 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Mike Linksvayer m...@gondwanaland.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: [ ... ] Again, any government open data publication in Canada must be licensed ODC-PDDL, or else it is a not-open-enough-closed-data-failure.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Talk-ca] Nouvelle licence de données ouvertes au Québec

2014-02-21 Thread Paul Norman
CC BY 3.0 and earlier had onerous attribution requirements for data. I believe 4.0 fixes this. I don't think anyone has suggested contacting a data provider who's licensed under CC 4.0 licenses to clarify attribution. The issue with 3.0 attribution are not purely theoretical, there have been

Re: [Talk-br] Importação da Funai

2014-02-21 Thread Paulo Carvalho
Aliás, gostaria de fazer como se faz para abrir um ticket para pedir que vias não pavimentadas fossem desenhadas de forma diferente. Em 21 de fevereiro de 2014 00:55, Nelson A. de Oliveira nao...@gmail.comescreveu: 2014-02-21 0:20 GMT-03:00 Augusto Stoffel arstof...@yahoo.com.br: Mesmo

Re: [Talk-br] Importação da Funai

2014-02-21 Thread Paulo Carvalho
gostaria de saber... Em 21 de fevereiro de 2014 08:01, Paulo Carvalho paulo.r.m.carva...@gmail.com escreveu: Aliás, gostaria de fazer como se faz para abrir um ticket para pedir que vias não pavimentadas fossem desenhadas de forma diferente. Em 21 de fevereiro de 2014 00:55, Nelson A.

Re: [Talk-br] Importação da Funai

2014-02-21 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
2014-02-21 8:01 GMT-03:00 Paulo Carvalho paulo.r.m.carva...@gmail.com: Aliás, gostaria de fazer como se faz para abrir um ticket para pedir que vias não pavimentadas fossem desenhadas de forma diferente. O estilo padrão do OSM é o openstreetmap-carto

Re: [Talk-br] Importação da Funai

2014-02-21 Thread Paulo Carvalho
Obrigado. Em 21 de fevereiro de 2014 08:06, Nelson A. de Oliveira nao...@gmail.comescreveu: 2014-02-21 8:01 GMT-03:00 Paulo Carvalho paulo.r.m.carva...@gmail.com: Aliás, gostaria de fazer como se faz para abrir um ticket para pedir que vias não pavimentadas fossem desenhadas de forma

Re: [Talk-br] Importação da Funai

2014-02-21 Thread Paulo Carvalho
OFF TOPIC: Dei meu voto lá. 7 meses depois e cheio de gente pedindo os caras ainda não fizeram E ruim ter que baixar no JOSM, verificar uma-a-uma, clicando e lendo nas tags. Em 21 de fevereiro de 2014 08:06, Nelson A. de Oliveira nao...@gmail.comescreveu: 2014-02-21 8:01 GMT-03:00 Paulo

Re: [Talk-br] Importação da Funai

2014-02-21 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
2014-02-21 8:44 GMT-03:00 Paulo Carvalho paulo.r.m.carva...@gmail.com: OFF TOPIC: Dei meu voto lá. 7 meses depois e cheio de gente pedindo os caras ainda não fizeram E ruim ter que baixar no JOSM, verificar uma-a-uma, clicando e lendo nas tags. Usa esse estilo no JOSM:

Re: [Talk-br] Importação da Funai

2014-02-21 Thread Paulo Carvalho
Obrigado. Em 21 de fevereiro de 2014 08:50, Nelson A. de Oliveira nao...@gmail.comescreveu: 2014-02-21 8:44 GMT-03:00 Paulo Carvalho paulo.r.m.carva...@gmail.com: OFF TOPIC: Dei meu voto lá. 7 meses depois e cheio de gente pedindo os caras ainda não fizeram E ruim ter que baixar no

Re: [Talk-br] Importação da Funai

2014-02-21 Thread Fernando Trebien
7 meses não, 5 anos: https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1447 2014-02-21 8:44 GMT-03:00 Paulo Carvalho paulo.r.m.carva...@gmail.com: OFF TOPIC: Dei meu voto lá. 7 meses depois e cheio de gente pedindo os caras ainda não fizeram E ruim ter que baixar no JOSM, verificar uma-a-uma,

Re: [Talk-br] Importação da Funai

2014-02-21 Thread Fernando Trebien
Justamente por isso o argumento de o correto é fazer o renderizador exibir isso cada vez mais perde força comigo. Aliás, quem pensa assim deveria estar reforçando essas solicitações nos bugtrackers dos renderizadores - mas não o estão fazendo. (Estou cansando de fazer isso sozinho.) Enunciar um

Re: [Talk-br] Importação da Funai

2014-02-21 Thread John Packer
Mas o correto é fazer com que o renderizador exiba isso (abrindo um ticket para isso) e não o contrário :-) +1 Se alguém julgar necessário mostrar que aquilo são terras indígenas antes que o Mapnik as implemente, sempre pode criar uma camada para mostrar em um site específico. Precisaria de

Re: [Talk-br] Importação da Funai

2014-02-21 Thread Paulo Carvalho
*double facepalm* Em 21 de fevereiro de 2014 10:39, Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com escreveu: 7 meses não, 5 anos: https://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/1447 2014-02-21 8:44 GMT-03:00 Paulo Carvalho paulo.r.m.carva...@gmail.com: OFF TOPIC: Dei meu voto lá. 7 meses depois e

Re: [Talk-br] Importação da Funai

2014-02-21 Thread Fernando Trebien
John, todos têm premissas muito similares, e absolutamente nenhum renderiza as reservas atualmente quando mapeadas da forma ideal. Além disso, qual o percentual de usuários que usa sistemas além do que está no site principal? Concorda que quando vendemos por aí a idéia de que o OpenStreetMap é um

Re: [Talk-br] Importação da Funai

2014-02-21 Thread Fernando Trebien
É, meus dedos estão coçando pra pôr as mãos nesse código. (E quando o fizer, não será só essa alteração, nem só esse ticket.) 2014-02-21 11:13 GMT-03:00 Paulo Carvalho paulo.r.m.carva...@gmail.com: *double facepalm* Em 21 de fevereiro de 2014 10:39, Fernando Trebien

Re: [Talk-br] Importação da Funai

2014-02-21 Thread Bráulio
Isso. Meus dedos também estão coçando e há muito tempo. No issue do GitHub há muita discussão e nenhum pull request. Talvez seja só isso mesmo que esteja faltando para a coisa andar. Não parece ser muito difícil: só demorado. Vou dar uma olhada no fim de semana. O mais complicado é montar o

Re: [Talk-br] Importação da Funai

2014-02-21 Thread John Packer
Existe uma razão para o Google ser famoso: é 1 nome só, e está tudo no mesmo lugar. Isso está longe de ser a principal razão porquê o Google é famoso. Se você discorda, por junte-se a mim e abra os tickets relativos a cada questão junto aos desenvolvedores dos principais sistemas. Eu já

Re: [Talk-br] Importação da Funai

2014-02-21 Thread Fernando Trebien
Se você não se importa que as terras indígenas apareçam no mapa principal juntamente com as demais reservas, provavelmente pensará que a concessão não deve ser dada. Caso contrário, pensará que deve. Acho que leisure=nature_reserve é algo bastante genérico. A descrição no wiki diz (e copia da

[Talk-br] OSM nas olimpíadas em Sochi

2014-02-21 Thread Fernando Trebien
Mais uma matéria interessante sobre a relevância do OSM no mundo: http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/02/in-sochi-open-source-maps-beat-googles/283909/ -- Fernando Trebien +55 (51) 9962-5409 The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months. (Moore's law) The speed of software

Re: [Talk-de] D-A-CH

2014-02-21 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hallo Frederik, wie groß ist denn der Nachteil beim Zusammenbauen? Das Script, das Du angibst, ist ja erstmal nicht so besonders kompliziert; wie viel Laufzeit und Speicher kostet es, entsprechende Extrakte zusammenzubauen? Naiv und ohne Details des osmosis-codes zu kennen müsste doch eigentlich

Re: [Talk-de] D-A-CH

2014-02-21 Thread chris66
Am 20.02.2014 17:04, schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hi, für den rein hypothetischen Fall ;) dass ich auf download.geofabrik.de auch ein File D-A-CH anbieten würde, statt nur entweder die Länder einzeln oder ganz Europa - würde man dann auch noch Südtirol mit dazu nehmen, oder eher nicht? Bye

Re: [Talk-de] (über)große relation 1201227

2014-02-21 Thread Lars Lingner
Hallo Thomas, On 20.02.2014 20:17, malenki wrote: [...] Dank der Größe war die Bearbeitung doch nicht ganz trivial. Ich durfte JOSM einige Male abschießen, da nicht offenbar war, ob er die 100% load auf einem Core endlich oder unendlich verursachen würde. Danach durfte ich noch zwei

Re: [Talk-de] D-A-CH

2014-02-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 02/21/2014 08:59 AM, Peter Wendorff wrote: Naiv und ohne Details des osmosis-codes zu kennen müsste doch eigentlich (wenn man voraussetzen kann, dass die Versionen aller Objekte in allen Teilextrakten zusammenpassen) einmal durch alle osm/pbf-Dateien geparst werden, während die bereits

Re: [Talk-de] D-A-CH

2014-02-21 Thread Walter Nordmann
Frederik Ramm wrote Ich kenne die genaue Implementierung im Osmosis auch nicht; wenn man voraussetzt, dass alle Inputs sortiert sind, und das sind sie hier, dann kann man sich sogar die Liste der bereits übernommenen Objekt-IDs sparen. Genau, wenn alle Extrakte aus der gleichen Nacht sind,

[Talk-de] [Fwd: [OSGeo-Discuss] Final OSGeo-Live 7.9 testing sprint - call to action]

2014-02-21 Thread Astrid Emde (FOSSGIS e.V.)
Hallo, für diejenigen, die noch keine Pläne für das Wochenende haben! Samstag und Sonntag ist der OSGeo-Live Testing Sprint für die neue Version 7.9. Schönen Gruß Astrid Original Message Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Final OSGeo-Live 7.9

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] OOC 1:25k OS mapping

2014-02-21 Thread Andy Robinson
My apologies. I had the wrong URL on the wiki page. Fixed now. Make sure you paste it into the bottom box on the tms details entry dialogue. Cheers Andy From: jonathan [mailto:jonat...@bigfatfrog67.me] Sent: 20 February 2014 23:19 To: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re:

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] FW: [Talk-GB] East Midlands pub meeting

2014-02-21 Thread Andy Robinson
Derby isn't so far away. Anyone else up for gat crashing on Tuesday? Cheers Andy From: SK53 [mailto:sk53@gmail.com] Sent: 21 February 2014 14:27 To: talk...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-GB] East Midlands pub meeting Just a quick reminder that the Nottingham pub meeting will

[Talk-es] El Hackatón en Almería

2014-02-21 Thread Jorge Sanz
Buenas, El 22 y 23 de marzo en Almería se va a realizar un sarao tecnológico llamado El Hackatón que es algo así como un concurso con charlas y lo que se tercie. http://elhackaton.com/ Me han invitado y si no pasa nada voy a dar la brasa sobre OSM. Uno de los organizadores me comenta que si hay

[Talk-ar] Sabado #OpenDataDay expedición de datos de transporte

2014-02-21 Thread Matías Kalwill
Hola! Mañana es el #OpenDataDay en todo el mundo y con @okfnAR y @bikestorming haremos una expedición de datos de transporte Una de las propuestas incluye trabajaremos sobre datos de OSM, estaria buenisimo que los que estén trabajando activamente en esta data local se sumen. Les dejo el link al

Re: [Talk-it-trentino] Catasto Trentino

2014-02-21 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
Mi dici il nome del tuo comune? Da dove hai preso quel valore? Il valore corretto è quello che trovi nella tabella di questo shape file http://dati.trentino.it/dataset/cartografica-catastale-numerica-confine-comune-catastale 2014-02-21 18:05 GMT+01:00 girarsi_liste liste.gira...@gmail.com:

Re: [Talk-it-trentino] Catasto Trentino

2014-02-21 Thread girarsi_liste
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Il 21/02/2014 18:11, Maurizio Napolitano ha scritto: Mi dici il nome del tuo comune? Da dove hai preso quel valore? Il valore corretto è quello che trovi nella tabella di questo shape file

Re: [Talk-it-trentino] Catasto Trentino

2014-02-21 Thread girarsi_liste
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Il 21/02/2014 18:17, Maurizio Napolitano ha scritto: Il comune è Scurelle: http://www.comuni-italiani.it/022/171/index.html Praticamente è lo stesso codice catastale che si mette sul 730 nelle informazioni del comune di residenza Comunque

Re: [Talk-ro] Import lista monumente istorice

2014-02-21 Thread Strainu
Salut, Am aflat azi că cei care mapează pe Google Maps (sau Google România? nu e prea clar) ar fi semnat o înțelegere cu Agentia Națională pentru Turism pentru maparea monumentelor istorice. Mi-e puțin neclar ce treabă are ANT și ce vor mapa efectiv, dar mi s-a părut un incentive bun să reînviem

[Talk-ro] Nomenclatorul străzilor - Timișoara

2014-02-21 Thread Strainu
Primăria Timișoara a publicat pe date.gov.ro nomenclatorul străzilor. N-are informații geografice foarte relevante, dar s-ar putea dovedi util în cazul unor discuții gen Calea Călărași/Călărașilor; în plus, e și mai interesant faptul că are *fostele* nume ale străzilor. Nu știu cum pot fi adăugate

Re: [Talk-ro] Nomenclatorul străzilor - Timișoara

2014-02-21 Thread Filip Chirita Rares Cristian
Alt_name ar fi cel mai ok pentru nume mai vechi dar pe care oamenii inca le stiu On Feb 21, 2014 1:17 PM, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: Primăria Timișoara a publicat pe date.gov.ro nomenclatorul străzilor. N-are informații geografice foarte relevante, dar s-ar putea dovedi util în cazul

Re: [Talk-ca] Nouvelle licence de données ouvertes au Québec

2014-02-21 Thread Diane Mercier
Translation in english of the title : Municipalities and government of Québec (Canada) will adopt the CC BY 4.0 - Ref. : https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2014-February/006069.html Dear Paul, I am sorry to contradict you, but please find attached copy of my conversation

Re: [Talk-ca] Nouvelle licence de données ouvertes au Québec

2014-02-21 Thread Diane Mercier
Municipalities and government of Québec will adopt the CC BY 4.0 Diane Le 2014-02-21 07:04, Simon Poole a écrit : This is I believe a simple misunderstanding: le...@osmfoundation.org is the internal list of the LWG legal-t...@openstreetmap.org is the legal discussion mailing list open to

Re: [Talk-ca] Nouvelle licence de données ouvertes au Québec

2014-02-21 Thread Pierre Béland
Eh good news for  OSM-Quebec community then. Let's wait for the official confirmation of the exact license adopted. Bonne nouvelle pour les contributeurs OSM-Québec.  Attendons cependant la confirmation officielle de la licence exacte adoptée.   Pierre De 

Re: [Talk-ca] Updating Langley and use of alt_name?

2014-02-21 Thread William Rieck
Hi Paul, I was following your message until this statement, where I got confused. Are you saying the city of Langley is not a city? What do you mean by in British English? That's all fairly simple, but the place node is more complicated. Langley is not a city in British English, but a town.

Re: [Talk-ca] Nouvelle licence de données ouvertes au Québec

2014-02-21 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Eh good news for OSM-Quebec community then. Let's wait for the official confirmation of the exact license adopted. I disagree. Any license drafted or adopted by a Canadian government, other than a no-restrictions,

Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM-legal-talk] Nouvelle licence de données ouvertes au Québec

2014-02-21 Thread Richard Weait
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 4:58 PM, Mike Linksvayer m...@gondwanaland.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: [ ... ] Again, any government open data publication in Canada must be licensed ODC-PDDL, or else it is a not-open-enough-closed-data-failure.

Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM-legal-talk] Nouvelle licence de données ouvertes au Québec

2014-02-21 Thread Mike Linksvayer
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Eh good news for OSM-Quebec community then. Let's wait for the official confirmation of the exact license adopted. I disagree. Any license

Re: [Talk-ca] Nouvelle licence de données ouvertes au Québec

2014-02-21 Thread Simon Poole
This is I believe a simple misunderstanding: le...@osmfoundation.org is the internal list of the LWG legal-t...@openstreetmap.org is the legal discussion mailing list open to the general public. On the matter at hand: as I write in the quoted mail, we are quite open to taking the

Re: [Talk-ca] [Imports] GNS tag cleanup

2014-02-21 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
My comments largely revolve around the use of editor based deprecation. --- One comment is specific to GNS. The gns:uni and gns:ufi are a primary keys in the source data, and as such should definitely be kept to aid in future matching or conflation of the object. See:

Re: [Talk-ca] Updating Langley and use of alt_name?

2014-02-21 Thread Pierre Béland
Looking at the Township and City of Langley, I see that these relations are duplicate polygons that share the exact same nodes. Then why two relations? Instead, would it be better to simply use alt_name for the city, added to the Township of Langley.  Such Classification where you have two

Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM-legal-talk] Nouvelle licence de données ouvertes au Québec

2014-02-21 Thread Paul Norman
CC BY 3.0 and earlier had onerous attribution requirements for data. I believe 4.0 fixes this. I don't think anyone has suggested contacting a data provider who's licensed under CC 4.0 licenses to clarify attribution. The issue with 3.0 attribution are not purely theoretical, there have been

Re: [Talk-ca] Updating Langley and use of alt_name?

2014-02-21 Thread Pierre Béland
Oups I was wrong in identifiying the polygons in JOSM. These are  two adjacent polygons, the city being surrounded by the township.  The difference in spelling comes from the alt_name=Langley. I should have mapped for the Night of the living map instead. Or maybe not!   Pierre

Re: [Talk-cz] Opět hlášení chyb (Re: Minimalis_import)

2014-02-21 Thread Marián Kyral
Dne 21.2.2014 00:36, Dalibor Jelínek napsal: Nó. Vidím tabulku přepěknou, kterou filtrovati, řaditi a exportovati do souboru s hodnotami středníčkem oddělenými dle libosti můžu. :-D Nó, vzhledem k tomu, že je tam jedna hodnota, tak filtr a razeni jsou uz ted funkcni a zabudovane implicitne.

Re: [Talk-cz] Opět hlášení chyb (Re: Minimalis_import)

2014-02-21 Thread Dalibor Jelínek
Ahoj, Asi takhle nějak: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:RUIAN/chyby Uznávám přede všemi, že tvoje řešení je mnohem hezčí. Jen bych tam doplnil sloupec, který by říkal o jakém RUIAN ID se bavíme, aby se daly rozlišit minimálně SO a AM, možná i TEA. Taky bych dával to číslo klikací s

Re: [Talk-cz] Opět hlášení chyb (Re: Minimalis_import)

2014-02-21 Thread Marián Kyral
Dne 21.2.2014 09:20, Dalibor Jelínek napsal: Ahoj, Asi takhle nějak: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:RUIAN/chyby Uznávám přede všemi, že tvoje řešení je mnohem hezčí. Jen bych tam doplnil sloupec, který by říkal o jakém RUIAN ID se bavíme, aby se daly rozlišit minimálně SO a AM, možná

Re: [Talk-cz] Opět hlášení chyb (Re: Minimalis_import)

2014-02-21 Thread Dalibor Jelínek
Ahoj, tak ted zase budu chytrej ja. ;-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Sorting#Secondary_key Pridat odkaz na OSM to asi jo. V jakym formatu? Takhle http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/26376298 Doufám, že je jasné, že ta data jsou ten příklad, žádné takové AM neexistují ;-) Uplne jasny to teda

[Talk-cz] RUIAN TMS - chybné objekty

2014-02-21 Thread Petr Schönmann
Ahoj, používám v JOSM vrstu budov z RUIAN tms ( tms:http://tile.poloha.net/budovy/{zoom}/{x}/{y}.png ) Někdy vidím vykouslé/přeříznuté budovy pokud jimi prochází administrativní hranice viz http://i60.tinypic.com/r6wnm9.jpg Predpokladam ze to uz je chyba v ruian datech, neb tracer to taky tak

Re: [Talk-cz] Stránka o RÚIAN

2014-02-21 Thread Pavel Kwiecien
Ahoj, ještě bych si představoval nějakou stránku, kde by byly shrnuty výraznější změny v RÚIAN souborech, aby bylo vidět, co je kde nového. Něco jsem sepsal do této podoby: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:RUIAN/nove_budovy Zdraví Pavel Kwiecien -- Původní zpráva -- Od:

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