Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Foundation / Domains / Trademark

2008-12-01 Thread Shaun McDonald
As I don't have an @osmfoundation.org address, I can't see november's draft minutes. Shaun On 1 Dec 2008, at 11:57, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Jochen, We posted draft board meeting minutes to the OSMF website so you can get up to date on the workings behind the scenes. We

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Foundation / Domains / Trademark

2008-12-01 Thread Peter Miller
The August of September minutes have been published. Thank you. Fyi, the draft minutes of the latest meeting are behind password authentication. Can the requirement for authentication be removed to make it generally accessible? I don't know if I have a password as a foundation member, but I

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM Foundation / Domains / Trademark

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Mike had put the link up before I'd published the doc. You should be able to reach it now. Let me know if not. http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dcs6phhk_35dkhtq2dj Patience please on the other Jan Oct ones, they will be up later today. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Per
Now we can see a big discussion, but no one did anything constructive! One thing is clear, we need a tag to describe the usability of ways. If you don't like smoothness invent a better scheme! Smoothness is better than nothing. Please have a look at and comment on:

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Per-15 wrote: If you don't like smoothness invent a better scheme! Smoothness is better than nothing. That's debatable (as well as, er, very_horrible). Personally I believe the easiest and most flexible thing is just to extend the access tags: bicycle=no|yes|difficult|unsuitable so you'd

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Lester Caine
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Per-15 wrote: If you don't like smoothness invent a better scheme! Smoothness is better than nothing. That's debatable (as well as, er, very_horrible). Agreed It does not provide a platform to build on at all. Personally I believe the easiest and most flexible

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Bernhard Zwischenbrugger
Hi bicycle=no|yes|difficult|unsuitable so you'd get highway=bridleway foot=yes (permitted, no problem) bicycle:racer=unsuitable (permitted but not practical) bicycle:hybrid=difficult (permitted but challenging) bicycle:mtb=yes (permitted, no problem) In Vienna we have an event called

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Douglas Furlong
2008/12/1 Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Per-15 wrote: If you don't like smoothness invent a better scheme! Smoothness is better than nothing. That's debatable (as well as, er, very_horrible). Personally I believe the easiest and most flexible thing is just to extend the access

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Bernhard Zwischenbrugger wrote: In Vienna we have an event called Friday Night Skating. Every week about 1000 Inline Skater meet at 10pm and skate on normal roads. The police blocks all the roads an it is possible to skate on roads that are for normal for cars only. You can't design/evolve

Re: [OSM-talk] Postcode searches in Namefinder

2008-12-01 Thread Claudius Henrichs
David Earl: I've implemented some changes to the experimental UK postcode searches in the Namefinder. (...) 1. you can now search for UK postcode prefixes, e.g. CB21. These are just OSM nodes. Which OSM-tag are you querying there? postcode=x? Do you respect addr:postcode according to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Dec 1, 2008, at 11:02, Bernhard Zwischenbrugger wrote: In Vienna we have an event called Friday Night Skating. Every week about 1000 Inline Skater meet at 10pm and skate on normal roads. The police blocks all the roads an it is possible to skate on roads that are for normal for cars

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Douglas Furlong
2008/12/1 Bernhard Zwischenbrugger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi bicycle=no|yes|difficult|unsuitable so you'd get highway=bridleway foot=yes (permitted, no problem) bicycle:racer=unsuitable (permitted but not practical) bicycle:hybrid=difficult (permitted but challenging) bicycle:mtb=yes

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Robert Vollmert
2008/12/1 Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personally I believe the easiest and most flexible thing is just to extend the access tags: bicycle=no|yes|difficult|unsuitable so you'd get highway=bridleway foot=yes (permitted, no problem) bicycle:racer=unsuitable (permitted but not

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Dec 1, 2008, at 11:15, Douglas Furlong wrote: If this is an argument in favour of smoothness, then you would run in to exactly the same problem (just not as fine grained). If a user see's a road as being tagged as smooth, then they'd think that they could roller blade on it, which

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Robert Vollmert wrote: The obvious problem with this is the massive redundancy. You need to tag for every possible form of transport, or infer suitability for something exotic from the provided suitabilities. Yes, infer, like we do with every other tag. People realised they didn't need to tag

Re: [OSM-talk] Postcode searches in Namefinder

2008-12-01 Thread David Earl
On 01/12/2008 10:11, Claudius Henrichs wrote: David Earl: I've implemented some changes to the experimental UK postcode searches in the Namefinder. (...) 1. you can now search for UK postcode prefixes, e.g. CB21. These are just OSM nodes. Which OSM-tag are you querying there?

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Matt White
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Robert Vollmert wrote: I do wonder why people are always jumping on the corner cases to discredit smoothness=*. It's not about corner cases. It's about usability. Remembering what very_horrible means, or absolutely_smashing, or

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Douglas Furlong
2008/12/1 Matt White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Douglas Furlong wrote: 2008/12/1 Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] bicycle=no|yes|difficult|unsuitable so you'd get highway=bridleway foot=yes (permitted, no problem)

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Douglas Furlong
2008/12/1 Matt White [EMAIL PROTECTED] Richard Fairhurst wrote: Robert Vollmert wrote: I do wonder why people are always jumping on the corner cases to discredit smoothness=*. It's not about corner cases. It's about usability. Remembering what very_horrible means, or

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Dave Stubbs
2008/12/1 Robert Vollmert [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/12/1 Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personally I believe the easiest and most flexible thing is just to extend the access tags: bicycle=no|yes|difficult|unsuitable so you'd get highway=bridleway foot=yes (permitted, no problem)

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Matt White
Douglas Furlong wrote: This makes is pretty straightforward to tag for all vehicle types easily - a tertiary road that has a fair few potholes could be smoothness=bumpy (given that car is the primary vehicle for the tertiary highway type) smoothness:mtb=bumpy

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Matt White
Douglas Furlong wrote: 2008/12/1 Matt White [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Richard Fairhurst wrote: Robert Vollmert wrote: I do wonder why people are always jumping on the corner cases to discredit smoothness=*. It's not about corner

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Douglas Furlong
2008/12/1 Robert Vollmert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008/12/1 Richard Fairhurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Personally I believe the easiest and most flexible thing is just to extend the access tags: bicycle=no|yes|difficult|unsuitable so you'd get highway=bridleway foot=yes (permitted, no problem)

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Matt White
Douglas Furlong wrote: 2008/12/1 Matt White [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Douglas Furlong wrote: This makes is pretty straightforward to tag for all vehicle types easily - a tertiary road that has a fair few potholes could be

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Bernhard Zwischenbrugger
hi smoothness I found a wiki page - but it's in German: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zustandserfassung_und_-bewertung They have a scale from 1 to 5 for zustandswert: 1.5 : maximum for new roads 3.5 : warning level 4.5 : /Schwellenwert - the road must be repaired /For measuring there is

[OSM-talk] aeroway_obstacle Feature Proposal - Voting - Proposed features/aeroway obstacle

2008-12-01 Thread andras . fabian
After an RFC time of 4 weeks, and no big objections - only some minor corrections - I would like to promote this feature request to the Voting. Voting starts today 2008-12-01 and will end on 2008-12-15. Here is the link to the proposal:

Re: [OSM-talk] Postcode searches in Namefinder

2008-12-01 Thread David Earl
One more thing: UK postcodes have spaces in them: searching for OX13ld won't work as it won't recognize it as a UK postcode. You need OX1 3LD. However that particular example doesn't work anyway because the address it tries to find is not helpful. It thinks the word Scientist is a street name

[OSM-talk] aeroway_obstacle Feature Proposal - Voting - Proposed features/aeroway obstacle

2008-12-01 Thread andras . fabian
Voting stopped by alpilotx ... Sorry guys. I have completely forgotten to check the Talk page. In the first days I didn't get responses and then I was believing, I would get automatic notification if I set the page on watch (which was obviously not the case). And I got only one response via the

[OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
The latest charts are now online [1] and they show that the number of contributors has dropped in the last couple of months. The number of new users signing up each day hasn't changed much. Is it the northern hemisphere winter kicking in? Has the credit crunch or fuel prices made a difference?

Re: [OSM-talk] Postcode searches in Namefinder

2008-12-01 Thread David Earl
On 01/12/2008 12:40, Shaun McDonald wrote: Does the namefinder use any postcodes that have been added to node or ways in the osm data? No: see my earlier reply to someone else who asked exactly the same question. David ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Postcode searches in Namefinder

2008-12-01 Thread Dave Stubbs
2008/12/1 David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 01/12/2008 12:40, Shaun McDonald wrote: Does the namefinder use any postcodes that have been added to node or ways in the osm data? No: see my earlier reply to someone else who asked exactly the same question. I'm guessing what's confusing people

Re: [OSM-talk] Using OSM data with JAVA

2008-12-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Jan Torben Heuer wrote: Hi, I hope this is the right place for my question. No, definitely not. There is a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list and a [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, both of which would be more suitable than [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to use OSM data for a routing client. I therefore need the

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread 80n
In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more roads please? ;) On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 12:59 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The latest charts are now online [1] and they show that the number of contributors has dropped in the last couple

Re: [OSM-talk] Postcode searches in Namefinder

2008-12-01 Thread David Earl
On 01/12/2008 13:45, Dave Stubbs wrote: 2008/12/1 David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 01/12/2008 12:40, Shaun McDonald wrote: Does the namefinder use any postcodes that have been added to node or ways in the osm data? No: see my earlier reply to someone else who asked exactly the same question.

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Donald Allwright
In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more roads please? ;) I think you'll find that if you start mapping footpaths, it'll at least partly solve the problem. Footpaths, by definition, cannot (legally) be cycled on so you have to do them on foot. Which means your

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Dave Stubbs
2008/12/1 80n [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more roads please? ;) There's the whole world of addresses open to you + you could always move house :-) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Chris Browet
2008/12/1 80n [EMAIL PROTECTED] In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more roads please? ;) Indeed, I think that the stat doesn't say much. In crowded areas like Germany or UK, there will be a time where there won't be anything left to map. The real interesting

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Ed Loach
Andy asked: If anyone out there who was contributing in the summer and has now stopped could share the reasons I might help shed some light. I've not stopped as such, but there are a number of factors that mean I can't contribute as much as I did initially. When I started mapping I went out

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] If anyone out there who was contributing in the summer and has now stopped could share the reasons I might help shed some light. I have almost stopped mapping in the latest month or two for a couple

Re: [OSM-talk] Coordinate in wiki page

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Allan
I've no idea where that template comes from - is it a wikipedia thing? Very few wikipedia templates have been also copied onto the openstreetmap wiki. In answer to your second question, yep, most links are hardcoded simple urls, but you might want to consider either embedding a map (see

Re: [OSM-talk] XAPI relations query returns only nodes

2008-12-01 Thread David Carmean
The queries that failed were attempts to find all relations of any type, so .../api/0.5/relation[type=*][bbox=-124.0,36.75,-121.0,39.0] or .../api/0.5/relation[bbox=-124.0,36.75,-121.0,39.0] only returned nodes. On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 07:34:52PM +, 80n wrote: David I just tested it

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread John McKerrell
On 1 Dec 2008, at 14:56, Elena of Valhalla wrote: On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:59 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] If anyone out there who was contributing in the summer and has now stopped could share the reasons I might help shed some light. My mapping

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Donald Allwright wrote: Sent: 01 December 2008 2:13 PM To: 80n; talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone? In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more roads please? ;) I think you'll find that if you start mapping footpaths,

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Donald Allwright
At 9:00am on a Sunday morning, the meaning of no cycling on urban footpaths mysteriously disappears :-) Unfortunately the mud doesn't, which if Saturday is anything to go by would have been a bit too much for my non-mountain bike :-) The real challenge as has been pointed out is the white

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Igor Brejc
How about covering your area with land use data using yahoo/landsat? It's something I do occasionally at the end of the work day when I'm totally exhausted - it's a nice dumb work which helps my brain turn off. And it comes handy for various hiking maps (example of my area:

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread graham
80n wrote: In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more roads please? ;) Surrey is finished??!! Congratulations, I missed that! I've just realised - I have a house to let in a beautiful largely unmapped part of Italy and was wondering where to find customers. Now I

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Igor Brejc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sent: 01 December 2008 3:57 PM To: Donald Allwright Cc: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists); 80n; talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone? How about covering your area with land use data using yahoo/landsat? It's

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
graham wrote: Sent: 01 December 2008 4:07 PM To: osm Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone? I've just realised - I have a house to let in a beautiful largely unmapped part of Italy and was wondering where to find customers. Now I know ;-) What part? How Big? Is it

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Donald Allwright
It's very common in Bolivia at least that river have very different water levels, is there a tag for this? Usually you have a large riverbed and then a very small river running in the middle for most part of the year, and then sometimes it will flood all the way up to the riverbanks. I have

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Inge Wallin
On Monday 01 December 2008 13:59:32 Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: The latest charts are now online [1] and they show that the number of contributors has dropped in the last couple of months. The number of new users signing up each day hasn't changed much. Is it the northern

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread John07
Inge Wallin schrieb: On Monday 01 December 2008 13:59:32 Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: The latest charts are now online [1] and they show that the number of contributors has dropped in the last couple of months. The number of new users signing up each day hasn't changed much.

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread sylvain letuffe
On Monday 01 December 2008 15:00, 80n wrote: In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more roads please? ;) +1 And I don't care about street numbers -- Sylvain Letuffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] qui suis-je : http://slyserv.dyndns.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Gervase Markham
Frederik Ramm wrote: Gervase Markham wrote: Most of all since we're growing exponentially and even if we had 90% of mappers agree on something today, in two or three months those 90% would perhaps only form 30% of the community... This is actually an argument _for_ Map_Features and some

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Alex Mauer
Douglas Furlong wrote: My biggest issues is that smoothness varies depending on the vehicle in question, and as such it's just to vague to really be of use. No it doesn't. It's not like a paving machine runs just ahead of every off-road vehicle, making the road smoother for them. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread 80n
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:07 PM, graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 80n wrote: In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more roads please? ;) Surrey is finished??!! Congratulations, I missed that! To clarify, my immediate area is complete in every direction as far as

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
80n wrote: Sent: 01 December 2008 5:38 PM To: graham Cc: osm Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone? On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:07 PM, graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 80n wrote: In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more

[OSM-talk] State of the Map 2009 - Update

2008-12-01 Thread Nick Black
Hello, Here's a quick update on the planning of the State of the Map 2009: Proposals: We've received 3 proposals to host the conference in 2009 from Gran Canaria, Amsterdam and Trento (Italy) Working Group: Following last week's board meeting we established a working group to deal with the

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Gour
Andy == Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Andy, Andy If anyone out there who was contributing in the summer and has now Andy stopped could share the reasons I might help shed some light. I got my 1st GPS (76CSx) few days ago and do not own bike (yet), although

[OSM-talk] Reuse of Ordinance Survey maps

2008-12-01 Thread paul youlten
http://spatialnews.geocomm.com/dailynews/2008/nov/17/news4.html ;-) -- Tel: +44(0) 7814 517 807 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Reuse of Ordinance Survey maps

2008-12-01 Thread paul youlten
http://spatialnews.geocomm.com/dailynews/2008/nov/17/news4.html ;-) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for a map-bug tracker (Openstreetbugs)

2008-12-01 Thread Christoph Böhme
Hi! Tom Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: The problem with the notesapi branch is not that it's the same database but just that it takes the wrong approach to doing things within that database. For the record my preference would very much be for this to be a rails based system within the

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for a map-bug tracker (Openstreetbugs)

2008-12-01 Thread Christoph Böhme
Hi! Bernhard Zwischenbrugger [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: What about defining the API first? Yes, at least before starting some serious programming. My basic idea for the api was to allow to add, search/filter, and modify bug reports through a RESTful controller. The search/filter output should

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for a map-bug tracker (Openstreetbugs)

2008-12-01 Thread Christoph Böhme
Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Christoph Böhme wrote: That sounds good. I will see at the weekend if it really is a piece of cake. Would it be possible to reuse and extend the client-side code from osb for a web-based client-side interface? Before you get all cranked up writing

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for a map-bug tracker (Openstreetbugs)

2008-12-01 Thread Christoph Böhme
Xav [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Christoph Böhme a écrit : Would it be possible to reuse and extend the client-side code from osb for a web-based client-side interface? If it is a moral question : of course. If it is a technical question : 50% of the code has to be rewriten. Fine, it

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal for a map-bug tracker (Openstreetbugs)

2008-12-01 Thread Christoph Böhme
Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Christoph Böhme wrote: That sounds good. I will see at the weekend if it really is a piece of cake. Would it be possible to reuse and extend the client-side code from osb for a web-based client-side interface? Before you get all cranked up writing

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread graham
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: graham wrote: Sent: 01 December 2008 4:07 PM To: osm Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone? I've just realised - I have a house to let in a beautiful largely unmapped part of Italy and was wondering where to find customers. Now

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread maning sambale
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:00 PM, 80n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In my case I've run out of stuff to map. Can someone build some more roads please? ;) We need more volunteers in Metro manila ;) http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?lat=14.594717284692324lon=121.03235961646361zoom=11 You have

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on the wiki map features

2008-12-01 Thread Stephen Hope
Where you have the sign post for 4WD only, is that an access restriction or a suggestion? I.E. If you go on that road with a motorbike, or a 2wd vehicle, could you face prosecution? Or would you just be considered a bit foolish? It's a warning, not a restriction. I regularly take my 2WD

[OSM-talk] GIS bigwigs taking notice of openstreetmap

2008-12-01 Thread maning sambale
Just noticed this: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/James%20Fee/diary/4223 James Fee of http://www.spatiallyadjusted.com, now contributing to Openstreetmap. The heavyweights of geoblogging are here! Welcome! Can't wait for Dr. Tomlinson, Goodchild and Burrough to chime in. ;) cheers, maning

Re: [OSM-talk] XAPI relations query returns only nodes

2008-12-01 Thread 80n
David Both these queries seem to work ok when I try them. The actual URLs I used were: wget http://osm.bearstech.com/osmxapi/api/0.5/relation[type=*][bbox=-124.0,36.75,-121.0,39.0]which returned a file of 107,839,289 bytes containing 485,694 nodes, 46,128 ways and 1,238 relations. And: wget

Re: [OSM-talk] Where have all the contributors gone?

2008-12-01 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This really depends on where you live. If you live in a major city then you don't have much option but to map residential streets. Otherwise it's a special trip out to the countryside. Not something you can easily do in a lunch hour

[OSM-talk-nl] bounderies

2008-12-01 Thread Lambert Carsten
Hoi, Ik kwam een raar verloop tegen van de gemeente grens in Amsterdam: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.33308lon=4.92431zoom=16 Volgens de history in Potlach zijn die boundaries ruim een maand geleden opnieuw geïmporteerd uit AND. (Het betreft hier Way: #27963078.) Weet iemand mij te

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] End-of-year party

2008-12-01 Thread Floris Looijesteijn
Joepie! Ik ben even langs het door mij voorgestelde cafe gelopen (De Vergulde Gaper) en we kunnen daar gewoon een tafel reserveren. Zal ik dat even regelen? Het cafe is op 5 minuten lopen vanaf Amsterdam Centraal Station. De locatie op onze kaart klopt niet helemaal dus die heb ik aangepast...

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] bounderies

2008-12-01 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
Lambert Carsten schreef: Ik kwam een raar verloop tegen van de gemeente grens in Amsterdam: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.33308lon=4.92431zoom=16 Wat is daar vreemd aan? groeten, Eugene ___ Talk-nl mailing list Talk-nl@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] bounderies

2008-12-01 Thread Ldp
Eugene van der Pijll wrote: Lambert Carsten schreef: Ik kwam een raar verloop tegen van de gemeente grens in Amsterdam: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.33308lon=4.92431zoom=16 Wat is daar vreemd aan? Juist. Wat is de definitie van raar? Heb je de grenzen in

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Vier onwillige route relaties op openfietskaart, hulp gevraagd

2008-12-01 Thread Michiel Zandbelt
Freek wrote On 01-12-08 21:44: On Monday 01 December 2008, Michiel Zandbelt wrote: Nu zijn er inmiddels een viertal routes die hardnekkig weigeren gerenderd te worden en dus ook niet verschijnen op de kaarten. Ik heb ze bij herhaling nagekeken en opnieuw getagd, kan geen fout ontdekken,

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Vier onwillige route relaties op openfietskaart, hulp gevraagd

2008-12-01 Thread Gert Gremmen
Verder moet je soms tot twee dagen na een update van de serverdata wachten tot de tiles 48h oud zijn. Hoe vaker je kijkt, lijkt het wel, hoe langer het duurt. Gert -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Freek Verzonden: maandag 1 december 2008

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Vier onwillige route relaties op openfietskaart, hulp gevraagd

2008-12-01 Thread Freek
On Monday 01 December 2008, Michiel Zandbelt wrote: Freek wrote On 01-12-08 21:44: On Monday 01 December 2008, Michiel Zandbelt wrote: Nu zijn er inmiddels een viertal routes die hardnekkig weigeren gerenderd te worden en dus ook niet verschijnen op de kaarten. Ik heb ze bij herhaling

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Vier onwillige route relaties op openfietskaart, hulp gevraagd

2008-12-01 Thread Michiel Zandbelt
Freek wrote On 01-12-08 21:56: Ja, een beetje vreemd, ze lijken mij in ieder geval correct getagd. Inderdaad maar even afwachten. Ze zijn tot nu toe overigens altijd ook bij het opnieuw downlaoden van het betreffende gebeid van de OSM servers in Merkaartor weer keurig als relations in

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] End-of-year party

2008-12-01 Thread Zoran Kovacevic
ik zou zeggen go-go-go en post meteen ff op www.openstreetmap.nl cu On 1 dec 2008, at 12:07, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: Joepie! Ik ben even langs het door mij voorgestelde cafe gelopen (De Vergulde Gaper) en we kunnen daar gewoon een tafel reserveren. Zal ik dat even regelen? Het cafe is

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] bounderies

2008-12-01 Thread Lambert Carsten
On Monday 01 December 2008 18:44:41 you wrote: Lambert Carsten schreef: Ik kwam een raar verloop tegen van de gemeente grens in Amsterdam: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.33308lon=4.92431zoom=16 Wat is daar vreemd aan? Misschien is deze link iets beter voor josm:

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] bounderies

2008-12-01 Thread Skywave
Grenzen lopen wel degelijk door gebouwen heen, teminste ik heb verhalen gehoord van zowel landsgrenzen als provinciegrenzen (huiskamer in Gelderland, keuken in Brabant enz.). De grenzen zijn rechstreeks uit de AND data. Ik heb net even op viamichelin gekeken (enige die ik ken met gemeentegrenzen)

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] bounderies

2008-12-01 Thread Stefan de Konink
Skywave wrote: Grenzen lopen wel degelijk door gebouwen heen, teminste ik heb verhalen gehoord van zowel landsgrenzen als provinciegrenzen (huiskamer in Gelderland, keuken in Brabant enz.). De grenzen zijn rechstreeks uit de AND data. Ik heb net even op viamichelin gekeken (enige die ik ken

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] bounderies

2008-12-01 Thread Cartinus
On Tuesday 02 December 2008 00:40:33 Stefan de Konink wrote: Kadastrale grenzen lopen *niet* door gebouwen heen. Dus een voordeur en de rest van een woning liggen in 1 land/provincie. Da's niet waar. Er staan in Baarle-Nassau/Hertog genoeg huizen waar de landsgrens dwars doorheen loopt.

[OSM-talk-nl] Toeristische / culturele kaart

2008-12-01 Thread Gert Gremmen
Het is een beetje stil in OSM-NL, dus ik dacht laten we er eens wat nieuwe initiatieven ontplooien. Als een nieuw project, wil ik voorstellen voor deze winter: Een toeristische kaart waarop afhankelijk van de insteek van de bezoeker cultureel amusement logies parkeren

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] bounderies

2008-12-01 Thread Lennard
Cartinus wrote: On Tuesday 02 December 2008 00:40:33 Stefan de Konink wrote: Kadastrale grenzen lopen *niet* door gebouwen heen. Dus een voordeur en de rest van een woning liggen in 1 land/provincie. Da's niet waar. Er staan in Baarle-Nassau/Hertog genoeg huizen waar de landsgrens dwars

Re: [talk-au] Dual Named Roads

2008-12-01 Thread Matt White
Neil Penman wrote: Hi, I was wondering if there was a standard approach to roads that have two names. That is the street name in a town and the name of the highway that runs through the town. I found an example in Yass that seems to work well. Yass Valley Highway:Comur Street. Is this

Re: [talk-au] Dual Named Roads

2008-12-01 Thread Neil Penman
loc_name is what got me started looking at this. Lakey boy replaced the street name for a couple of streets in Castlemaine with the names of the highway and placed the street names in loc_name. However my reading of the wiki is that alt_name and loc_name are non official names by which a

Re: [talk-au] Dual Named Roads

2008-12-01 Thread Cameron
When routing over a long distance, you probably want to avoid: straight on Interstate Highway, straight on Main Street, straight on Interstate Highway, straight on Main Road, straight on Interstate Highway, etc. But when routing locally, you probably want to have the local name of the street.

Re: [talk-au] Dual Named Roads

2008-12-01 Thread Neil Penman
Thanks Matt, Ben, my eyes must be failing me. This approach so far seems the best although it is a bit of a compromise. Regards Neil From: Ben Kelley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tuesday, 2 December, 2008 6:24:03 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [talk-au] Dual Named Roads

2008-12-01 Thread Neil Penman
Good point. We do need a convention that the routing engines can follow. alt_name, reg_name, nat_name, loc_name etc don't seem to be the solution as per http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name. Relations would seem to be a good approach as you can easily link up streets and roads to form

[Talk-de] WGS-84 - GK; war: Firefox 3 und WMS

2008-12-01 Thread Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR)
Hallo Frederik, wie ich schon an anderer Stelle mal geschrieben habe, benutze ich für die Transformation GK - WGS-84 die sources von GEOTRANS http://earth-info.nga.mil/GandG/geotrans/ Ich benutze diese unter Windows mit C/C++ und unter WinCE in C. Allerdings habe ich mit JAVA noch nichts

Re: [Talk-de] QA basierend auf kürzester Route

2008-12-01 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 12:20:08AM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: Das ist eine sehr gute Idee, allerdings koennte es einfacher sein, Gosmore dafuer zu verwenden, da musst Du nichts mehr raussplitten, denn Gosmore *ist* der Routing Core. Kann mir gosmore irgendwie text oder aehnliches mit

[Talk-de] nochmal SO!GIS-Daten

2008-12-01 Thread Sarah Hoffmann
Hi, vor kurzem gab es eine Diskussion um 'duplicted nodes' im Schweizer SO!GIS-Import hier. hdus hat das mit JOSM gefixt, was allerdings dazu geführt hat, dass jetzt viele Kreuzungen nicht mehr verbunden sind: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=47.16853lon=7.52779zoom=16 Grund ist ein Bug im

Re: [Talk-de] [JOSM] Wish/Enhancement: Session-Source vorgeben

2008-12-01 Thread Markus
Hallo Frederik, Automatisch vergebene Source wäre auch für das Projekt Bayern hilfreich, da könnte dann beispielsweise immer DOP LVA verwendet werden, wenn die bayrischen Luftbilder geladen sind werden. Gruss, Markus ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] [JOSM] Wish/Enhancement: Session-Source vorgeben

2008-12-01 Thread Gerd v. Egidy
Beim API 0.6 wird es moeglich, fuer jedes Changeset - entspricht in JOSM dann einem Upload-Vorgang - beliebige Tags anzugeben. Ich wuerde ab dann darauf hinarbeiten, dass wir das source-Tag an Objekten nicht mehr nutzen, sondern mit einem Changeset-Source arbeiten, das man optional beim

Re: [Talk-de] QA basierend auf kürzester Route

2008-12-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Florian Lohoff wrote: Kann mir gosmore irgendwie text oder aehnliches mit nodeids/wayids und oder textrepresentation der lat/lon der durchfahrenen nodes rauswerfen? Es listet standardmaessig im Commandline-Modus alle durchfahrenen Node-Ids. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail

Re: [Talk-de] Relationen Radverkehrsnetz NRW gel öscht!

2008-12-01 Thread Martin Simon
Am 1. Dezember 2008 03:04 schrieb Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hallo, Ich wollte eben ein Stück des Radverkehrsnetzes NRW in Köln ergänzen und stellte fest, daß jemand im gesamten Raum Köln/Bonn/Voreifel (und eventuell noch weiter, andere Relationen dieses Typs haben aber überlebt) die

Re: [Talk-de] WGS-84 - GK; war: Firefox 3 und WMS

2008-12-01 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Hallo Stefan, Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR) schrieb: Grundlage ist folgende GK-Koordinate: R=4507545.14 H=5431102.70 System E N mein Programm: 12g 06' 06,11'' 49g 01' 01,92'' www.IPF.uni.karlsruhe.de: 12g 06' 06,65'' 49g 01' 01,53'' www.orchids.de: 12g 06' 06,10'' 49g 01' 01,93''

Re: [Talk-de] nochmal SO!GIS-Daten

2008-12-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: Gibt es irgendwie eine Möglichkeit, die SO!GIS-Daten automatisiert wieder in den alten Zustand zurückzubringen? In der oben angegebenen Gegend betrifft es die von User hdus am 18.11. gelöschten Knoten. Unter Umständen sind aber noch andere Gegenden betroffen. Ich

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