Re: [Talk-ko] DAUM as a source

2012-10-18 Thread Wesley Woo-Duk Hwang-Chung
According to sanha, he doesn't read mailing lists, and he doesn't want to get into too much legal rambling. The .osm file sanha made to replace the Daum-sourced map is based on this map: http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/File:Dokdo_zoomin.png The legal information is there in English. Would this

Re: [Talk-ko] DAUM as a source

2012-10-18 Thread Paul Norman
It’s CC BY-SA and not ODbL compatible. There’s the additional problem that it appears to be derived on a map from a South Korean maritime survey institution and a map published by dkbnews, so even if the author gave permission it’s not all his work. I think there’s a previous less accurate

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Unamapped ... errrrrr Sparsely mapped places :)

2012-10-18 Thread Ben Laenen
On Thursday 18 October 2012 07:51:01 Nicolas Pettiaux wrote: Thanks Brice, Very interesting. With only 17 places left, we can tackle the work more precisely. Wouldn't it be interesting to organize a mapping party in one of these locations, after preparation and contact with local people,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Unamapped ... errrrrr Sparsely mapped places :)

2012-10-18 Thread Sander Deryckere
I agree with Ben. One place I know to be sparsely mapped is Koksijde (almost no streets have names). But it isn't found by the tool. Maybe some other algorithm can be proposed. I'm thinking that the number of nodes generated can mostly be done with areal mapping, but for precise tags, you need to

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Unamapped ... errrrrr Sparsely mapped places :)

2012-10-18 Thread eMerzh
Yep, i agree with you, as i said the method here is really too dubious... we have to find something more clever :D i publish this last stat as a we can see the evolution.. 1 year ago where at Unmapped places: 13 Sparsely mapped: 189 and in april 2011 we where Unmapped places: 230 Sparsely

[OSM-talk] Wiki login redirect

2012-10-18 Thread Maarten Deen
I haven't noticed this before a few weeks ago, but when you visit a page in the wiki and then login, you are redirected to the main page. This is not very convenient, because logging in after navigating to a page is usually for one purpose only: to edit the page. And certainly users that have

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Jo
(Désolé d'envoyer ce mail en anglais sur la liste talk-fr, mais c'est plutôt dirigé vers talk en général) I have been following talk-fr myself and my opinion on the 'efforts' of pnorman is that he is trying very hard to chase away well meaning contributors in France. The French cadastre is just

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki login redirect

2012-10-18 Thread Manfred A. Reiter
Hi Maarten, 2012/10/18 Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: I haven't noticed this before a few weeks ago, but when you visit a page in the wiki and then login, you are redirected to the main page. This is not very convenient, because logging in after navigating to a page is usually for one purpose

Re: [OSM-talk] Wiki login redirect

2012-10-18 Thread Tom Hughes
On 18/10/12 07:30, Maarten Deen wrote: I haven't noticed this before a few weeks ago, but when you visit a page in the wiki and then login, you are redirected to the main page. This is not very convenient, because logging in after navigating to a page is usually for one purpose only: to edit

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/10/18 Jo winfi...@gmail.com: The French are integrating the data of the cadastre, their surveys, their local knowledge and Bing aerial images to improve Openstreetmap.org as a whole. They are not doing a bulk import that needs to be sorted out later on. The local community's opinion

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread sly (sylvain letuffe)
[I know it might be painfull to continue this discussion on talk, but it's even worse on talk-fr as lots of people don't read english and will be anoyed by this discussion, so I'm switching to an english talking mailing list] Frederik, See, the same applies to DWG as well. It is utterly

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread THEVENON Julien
Hi Martin, You forgot to put the French list in cc There is generally a problem with entering data for which you are not the full rights holder and which is not in the PD. The data you import/merge has strings attached (requires attribution which may not be removed) which might lead to

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/18/12 08:43, Jo wrote: The French are integrating the data of the cadastre, their surveys, their local knowledge and Bing aerial images to improve Openstreetmap.org as a whole. They are not doing a bulk import that needs to be sorted out later on. Anyone who uploads 1 houses in

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread sly (sylvain letuffe)
Hi martin, please also see the other side's motivation: there is good reason not to put meta data into the main database but on a changeset level, You have to prove such a claim and then compare it to the bad reasons not to http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/source#values (There are

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: (creating a separate account) Why is this such a big deal for people? Frederik, It's true that only a small part of the French community imports buildings. And DWG only detects a part of them, only those using big

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 18.10.2012 13:45, schrieb sly (sylvain letuffe): Hi martin, please also see the other side's motivation: there is good reason not to put meta data into the main database but on a changeset level, You have to prove such a claim and then compare it to the bad reasons not to

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread sly (sylvain letuffe)
Hi Peter, To set these in josm use the corresponding tab in the upload dialog of JOSM. Sorry for beeing unclear, yes I know that, I was refering to the other way round. A way to automatically add changeset tags in JOSM, without I forgot, too long, too hard, too... based on a previous

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/18/12 13:56, Pieren wrote: Even if you don't ask, I will reply: - no argument has been able to convince people that this rule is necessary here (I will not repeat all the arguments already mentionned in the past weeks). That is actually not new in DWG work. It does sometimes happen

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 18.10.2012 14:08, schrieb sly (sylvain letuffe): Hi Peter, To set these in josm use the corresponding tab in the upload dialog of JOSM. Sorry for beeing unclear, yes I know that, I was refering to the other way round. A way to automatically add changeset tags in JOSM, without I forgot, too

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Just because you are not convinced that a certain rule is good, doesn't mean it doesn't apply to you. C'mon Frederik. We are not talking about a single contributor. Perhaps from outside, you have this impression but it

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/10/18 THEVENON Julien julien_theve...@yahoo.fr: There is generally a problem with entering data for which you are not the full rights holder and which is not in the PD. The data you import/merge has strings attached (requires attribution which may not be removed) which might lead to

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread THEVENON Julien
De : Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com My French is a bit rusty but I think that this is the crucial part: non soumise aux droits patrimoniaux d’auteur Now compare to this paragraph:

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Henning Scholland
Just a question: If I filter all buildings with cadastre-source out of an osm-planet and publish this extract under ODbL it is illegal? If so, this is a very problematic thing. It should be allowed, to do anything that ODbL-license (and also cc-by-sa license did this before) allows me to do

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Henning Scholland o...@aighes.de wrote: Just a question: If I filter all buildings with cadastre-source out of an osm-planet and publish this extract under ODbL it is illegal? There is no difference between ODbl and CC-by-SA on this point. But please, forward

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/10/18 Pieren pier...@gmail.com: On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Henning Scholland o...@aighes.de wrote: Just a question: If I filter all buildings with cadastre-source out of an osm-planet and publish this extract under ODbL it is illegal? There is no difference between ODbl and

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 10/18/12 14:41, Pieren wrote: It's more than 5 minutes if you have to create first a new email account (I know now all the tricks to duplicate our first email account but then explain why a different email address is still required) then spend time to continuously switch from one account

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Pierre Enclos wrote: Henning Scholland wrote: Just a question: If I filter all buildings with cadastre-source out of an osm-planet and publish this extract [...] it is illegal? There is no difference between ODbl and CC-by-SA on this point. Which may be true but is largely irrelevant. :)

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: [...] But 1 houses? Show me the brain that has enough local knowledge to individually verify them, or show me the mapper who compares them against aerial imagery. You may call it integrating, but uploading 1 houses is 99,9% cadastre, 0,1%

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
Henning Scholland o...@aighes.de wrote: Just a question: If I filter all buildings with cadastre-source out of an osm-planet and publish this extract under ODbL it is illegal? It's now a composite work because users has add tag (adresses, name, amenity, shop...) to raw original data (and

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Both of these are technical issues that could be solved, and I'm prepared to help solve them - at least on the JOSM side, it would be easy to make it so that JOSM can store multiple identities and when you hit upload you can select which identity to

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Christian Quest
So far, the only explanation about the usesulness of the dedicated account is linked to tracking imported data or I missed something on the wiki. If this is the goal, why small changesets of imported data may not require a dedicated account ? This data doesn't need to be tracked ? I'm also

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Alex Barth
On Oct 18, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr wrote: So far, the only explanation about the usesulness of the dedicated account is linked to tracking imported data or I missed something on the wiki. Same here, I'd like to understand this better. Conceptually it seems

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Christian Rogel
As I said previously, the DGW cannot be only charged about its rude behaviour. The fault is up to the Foundation. Let 's say ay that the Board of Directors, newly elected, has to kept the Community in peace. It has to clarify its links with the DWG and precise in which cases a so-called

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Frank Steggink
On 18-10-2012 20:52, Christian Quest wrote: So far, the only explanation about the usesulness of the dedicated account is linked to tracking imported data or I missed something on the wiki. If this is the goal, why small changesets of imported data may not require a dedicated account ? This

[OSM-talk] User fluent in ASL and English?

2012-10-18 Thread Richard Weait
I'm having difficulty communicating effectively with a user who has ASL as a first language. Do we have anybody fluent in ASL and English who would be willing to help me out with subtleties I might be missing? ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Eric Marsden
fr == Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org writes: fr If I do that, would that change the attitude towards the separate fr account question, or would it be a a waste of time? Frederik, you are focussing on the technical ramifications of this rather narrow separate account issue, but in

Re: [OSM-talk] Who is a good mapper? Who isn't?

2012-10-18 Thread Hélène PETIT
Le 07/10/2012 05:04, Richard Weait a écrit : So, who is a good mapper? me What makes a good mapper? the team You tell me. done. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Frederik Ramm
Christian, I think you are mixing up things here. There is a general requirement for a dedicated import account, and you write yourself that you think that it is good to use a dedicated import in some cases. While this requirement is in theory a general requirement, DWG has never

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Mike N
On 10/18/2012 3:57 PM, Frank Steggink wrote: Does nobody know about the -Djosm.home=dir parameter you can pass to JOSM when starting up? It can be put easily in a shortcut. The difficulty is that any JOSM customization (styles, plugins, preferences) becomes spread among multiple accounts

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Cartinus
On 10/18/2012 09:44 PM, Christian Rogel wrote: By the way, could you stand receiving any message in a language you cannot understand. that seems to be looking for infuriating the non-English speaking users? On 10/18/2012 10:30 PM, Eric Marsden wrote: - the way in which DWG is undertaking

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Christian Quest
2012/10/18 Eric Marsden eric.mars...@free.fr: fr == Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org writes: fr If I do that, would that change the attitude towards the separate fr account question, or would it be a a waste of time? Frederik, you are focussing on the technical ramifications of this

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Jérome Armau
Keep in mind that we're trying to make the openstreetmap project accessible to a larger share of the population. In every single country, that means appealing to a non-computer-geek crowd. For example, the usage of -Djosm. home=dir is dark magic to most people. Even though it's acceptable to most

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Jérome Armau jerar...@gmail.com wrote: Keep in mind that we're trying to make the openstreetmap project accessible to a larger share of the population. In every single country, that means appealing to a non-computer-geek crowd. For example, the usage of

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Cartinus
On 10/18/2012 11:34 PM, Jérome Armau wrote: Keep in mind that we're trying to make the openstreetmap project accessible to a larger share of the population. In every single country, that means appealing to a non-computer-geek crowd. For example, the usage of -Djosm. home=dir is dark magic to

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Jo
2012/10/18 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org Hi, On 10/18/12 14:41, Pieren wrote: It's more than 5 minutes if you have to create first a new email account (I know now all the tricks to duplicate our first email account but then explain why a different email address is still required)

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Apollinaire
Cartinus wrote I think it is more reasonable to assume that any contributor to a multinational open project like openstreetmap knows how to use lt;http://translate.google.comgt; or any other such service. The continued use of the argument the message was not in French is just silly. You

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Jérome Armau
I think your approach based solely on the dataset size has limits. A typical French village with a few hundred inhabitants will include somewhere around 15,000 nodes and 500 building-tagged ways (that's a village I know with 200 inhabitants). Now, integrating such amounts of data doesn't mean that

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread andrzej zaborowski
On 18 October 2012 23:05, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: In a recent message, to talk-it (http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-it/2012-September/030778.html), Paul writes We recognize that the line between an import and assisted mapping is not currently clearly defined;

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Michael Kugelmann
On 18.10.2012 15:02, THEVENON Julien wrote: it means that we cannot distribute raw data coming from Cadastre alone. We are allowed to distribute them only if they are part of composite dataset/work ( = mixed with data coming from other sources ) and only if we add to them the information that

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Michael Kugelmann
On 18.10.2012 14:19, Frederik Ramm wrote: In the end, we have no choice but to block them; if, even though we tried, someone doesn't want to play by the rules then he can't play at all. Just because you are not convinced that a certain rule is good, doesn't mean it doesn't apply to you. I

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Am 19.10.2012 00:02, schrieb Apollinaire: Now, I let you play with your favorite tool : translate.google.com Bonjour, [...] Gaëtan auch wenn die Gramatik nach FR = DE dort sehr schlecht ist: it is readable to just fly over it understanding sufficient content and quicker to read it it in

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Jérome Armau
And that's exactly why we're all here, discussing the issue. So that we can come up with answers regarding: 1) What the exact role of the DWG is 2) How the DWG should go about interacting with the various communities and individual contributors across the globe 3) Whether and how

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Sorry: is going it's complete way in basic issues: is going it's complete seperate way in basic issues: ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Cartinus
On 10/19/2012 12:02 AM, Apollinaire wrote: Je suis cette affaire d'un peu loin depuis le début, mais avec assez d'intérêt pour aller jeter un coup d’œil sur le talk « General Discussion » de temps en temps. Lorsque j'ai vu certains ramener leurs fraises pour dire « la règle c'est la règle »

[OSM-talk] Governance (again, sorry)

2012-10-18 Thread Christian Quest
Le 19 octobre 2012 02:31, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl a écrit : So that's basically another iteration of we're French, we're different. Yes, we know you have a different culture, but even in France bits come in two flavors 0 and 1. And universal truths like garbage in is garbage out are

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Het taggen van BAG data.

2012-10-18 Thread Gertjan Idema
On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 14:29 +0200, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: Is het misschien een idee om hier een keer een avond/middag voor bij elkaar te komen? Dat gaat alleen werken als de hoofdrolspelers allemaal aanwezig kunnen zijn natuurlijk. Lijkt me een goed idee. De vraag is dan natuurlijk

[talk-au] (no subject)

2012-10-18 Thread Nick Hocking
John wrote I've been giving you a bit of a hand there, but mainly outside Canberra Thanks John, all help very much appreciated. Once I finish Canberra I will start helping out to clear keep right errors in Sydney. Keep right is the best method, in m,y view, since it gives immediate feedback

Re: [talk-au] The OSM ladder

2012-10-18 Thread Nick Hocking
Ben wrote Also, thank you for fixing those track sections at St Marys. Do you know what happened there? Given there was a derailment there 2 months ago, I find this a spooky co-incidence... Co-incidently I was in Sydney for the day, on that day, for a work meeting and as I

Re: [Talk-is] Bréf til sveitarfélaga - staðan 25. september

2012-10-18 Thread baldvin
Hæ hæ. Í fyrsta lagi þá verð ég að fá að dást að því hvað Svavar er ötull við það að afla gagna og ekki síður að koma þeim inn í OSM. Svona naglar skipta okkur svo miklu máli. Seinasta föstudag fór ég á fund hjá Mosfellsbæ og eftir að þau sáu ástandið á bænum í OSM vildu þau endilega afhenda

Re: [Talk-de] Openstreetbugs - Fehler falsch als erledigt markiert

2012-10-18 Thread Chris66
Am 17.10.2012 23:37, schrieb Schorschi: ich habe gerade festgestellt, dass am 13.10. ca. 14:36 ein NoName sehr viele Bugs (nur im Mannheimer Raum?) in OSB als erledigt markiert hat, von denen die meisten unverändert bestehen. Erst dachte ich, der hätte auch Bugs behoben, aber inzwischen

[Talk-de] Verwendung von Multipolygonen

2012-10-18 Thread Stephan Knauss
Hallo, was ist denn gerade Stand der Technik bei Multipolygon Relations? Hier wurde z.B. ein Flugplatz als Multipolygon angelegt: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1442532 Werden Vorfeld und Gebäude wirklich ausgeschnitten? Das war zumindest immer meine Vorstellung davon wofür die

Re: [Talk-de] Verwendung von Multipolygonen

2012-10-18 Thread Michael Kugelmann
Am 18.10.2012 23:13, schrieb Stephan Knauss: Ich hätte als Flugplatz das ganze Gelände gesehen. Und Vorfeld und Gebäude sind eben Bestandteil vom Flugplatz. +1, sehe ich genauso. Multipolygon bedeutet nicht zwangsweise ausschneiden, das kann auch zusammenfassen sein. Grüße, Michael.

Re: [Talk-de] Verwendung von Multipolygonen

2012-10-18 Thread Tobias Knerr
Am 18.10.2012 23:13, schrieb Stephan Knauss: Hier wurde z.B. ein Flugplatz als Multipolygon angelegt: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1442532 [...] Ich hätte als Flugplatz das ganze Gelände gesehen. Und Vorfeld und Gebäude sind eben Bestandteil vom Flugplatz. Da hast du auch

Re: [Talk-de] Verwendung von Multipolygonen

2012-10-18 Thread Willi
Unterschiedliche Verwendungsmöglichkeiten und Ansichten zu Multipolygonen werden immer wieder im deutschen Forum diskutiert, zum Beispiel neulich: Recreation_ground und Multipolygone http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=277135#p277135 landuse ist kaputt

Re: [Talk-it] [OSRM] layer per identificare problemi

2012-10-18 Thread Giacomo Boschi
Il 17/10/2012 17:50, emmexx ha scritto: Un interessante articolo legato al routing di OSRM: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/DennisL/diary Nel sito OSRM adesso si puo' attivare un layer che evidenzia le way problematiche: http://map.project-osrm.org/ Davvero interessante, ho già corretto

[Talk-it] Tag per pagine di facebook

2012-10-18 Thread Salemme Guido
Salve ho il seguente quesito : esiste un tag per indicare una pagina di facebook per esempio spesso inserisco negozi , associazioni , ecc che hanno una pagina di facebook e vorrei inserire anche quelle come si fa per il sito con il tag website esiste un tag specifico? Grazie saluti --

Re: [Talk-it] Parere su variazioni da mappatura di piste ciclabili

2012-10-18 Thread Volker Schmidt
** ** Diverse piste ciclabili e pedonali in sede propria mappate a suo tempo con i TAG: ** ** bicycle=yes cicleway=shared highway=cycleway name= xx surface=asphalt In primis: Hai già contattato l'utente? Per capire il suo motivo della modifica. Poi sul

Re: [Talk-it] Tag per pagine di facebook

2012-10-18 Thread Volker Schmidt
La mia opinione personale ... è di non metterlo nel database di OSM. Sono dati troppo volatili e quindi non mantenibili e quindi non utili. So che lo stesso argomento vale fino a un certo punto anche per siti web E poi ci sono tanti altri social networks, che facciamo con loro? Troppo

Re: [Talk-it] Tag per pagine di facebook

2012-10-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/10/18 Salemme Guido salemme.gu...@email.it: Salve ho il seguente quesito : esiste un tag per indicare una pagina di facebook per esempio spesso inserisco negozi , associazioni , ecc che hanno una pagina di facebook e vorrei inserire anche quelle come si fa per il sito con il tag

[Talk-it] R: Tag per pagine di facebook

2012-10-18 Thread Alech OSM
-Messaggio originale- Da: Salemme Guido [mailto:salemme.gu...@email.it] Inviato: giovedì 18 ottobre 2012 10.24 A: openstreetmap list - italiano Oggetto: [Talk-it] Tag per pagine di facebook Salve ho il seguente quesito : esiste un tag per indicare una pagina di facebook per esempio

Re: [Talk-it] R: Tag per pagine di facebook

2012-10-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/10/18 Alech OSM alech.hos...@gmail.com: Non è semplicemente : key=facebook, value=url ??? facendo una ricerca in taginfo pare che link:facebook sia per il momento il più usato: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=facebook ciao, Martin PS: comunque come

Re: [Talk-it] Parere su variazioni da mappatura di piste ciclabili

2012-10-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/10/18 Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com: l'automobile? Di quello che so, questo non è più un metodo consigliato. scusami Volker, non capisco il contesto di questa frase. A cosa ti riferisci con questo? Sarebbe probibilmente meglio utilizzare una relazione per la ciclovia, dove metti

[Talk-it] R: Parere su variazioni da mappatura di piste ciclabili

2012-10-18 Thread Giuseppe Amici
Ho chiesto all'utente, l'ho invitato alla mailing list comunicandogli che si sarebbe parlato della cosa. La prima risposta inviatami riguarda una ampia disquisizione sul concetto di carreggiata estrapolata dal codice della strada. Credo che della mia richiesta gli sia sfuggito il punto: piste

Re: [Talk-it] R: Parere su variazioni da mappatura di piste ciclabili

2012-10-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/10/18 Giuseppe Amici giuseppeam...@virgilio.it: Ho chiesto all'utente, l'ho invitato alla mailing list comunicandogli che si sarebbe parlato della cosa. La prima risposta inviatami riguarda una ampia disquisizione sul concetto di carreggiata estrapolata dal codice della strada. Credo che

Re: [Talk-it] R: Tag per pagine di facebook

2012-10-18 Thread Simone Saviolo
Il giorno 18 ottobre 2012 11:47, Alech OSM alech.hos...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ohibò! Non è semplicemente : key=facebook, value=url ??? ciao. No, per evitare namespace pollution. Se domani aprisse un social network che si chiama Amenity? Ciao,

Re: [Talk-it] R: Tag per pagine di facebook

2012-10-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Devo dire che sono abbastanza contro l'integrazione di dati chiusi, al meno se la pagina non è accessibile a chiunque senza obbligo di registrarsi. Il discorso è più ampio, e nasce sopratutto dall'idea che il nostro database open deve rimanere open anche riguardando gli contenuti singoli (deve

Re: [Talk-it] Conditional restrictions

2012-10-18 Thread Fabri
Il 16/10/2012 11:54, Alech OSM ha scritto: Cercavo giusto il modo per taggare una strada chiusa al traffico in orario di entrata/uscita scuole e una chiusa al traffico in giorno di mercato Ma il mercato avrà giorno ed ora (p.e. giovedi 9-13 ) ... si usano le convenzioni di

Re: [Talk-it] R: Tag per pagine di facebook

2012-10-18 Thread Simone Saviolo
Il giorno 18 ottobre 2012 16:01, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com ha scritto: Devo dire che sono abbastanza contro l'integrazione di dati chiusi, al meno se la pagina non è accessibile a chiunque senza obbligo di registrarsi. Una pagina Facebook non richiede registrazione per

Re: [Talk-it] Telecamere e varchi elettronici ai margini di una ZTL

2012-10-18 Thread beppebo...@libero.it
scusate ma come lo mappano a londra o berlino?Possibile che nel globo nessuno abbia risolto? Messaggio originale Da: simone.savi...@gmail.com Data: 18/10/2012 0.16 A: openstreetmap list - italianotalk-it@openstreetmap.org Ogg: Re: [Talk-it] Telecamere e varchi elettronici ai

Re: [Talk-it] Telecamere e varchi elettronici ai margini di una ZTL

2012-10-18 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2012/10/18 beppebo...@libero.it beppebo...@libero.it: scusate ma come lo mappano a londra o berlino? Possibile che nel globo nessuno abbia risolto? a Berlino non ci sono ZTL, vanno tutti in bici e con i mezzi ;-) a Londra non so se ci sono, credo di no, hanno quella zona centrale che richiede

[Talk-se] Lantmäteriverket har gett OSM tillstånd att föra databas och publicera kartor

2012-10-18 Thread johan.j
Hej, jag har blivit kontaktad av Lantmäteriverket som vill delge oss beslutet att de ger oss tillstånd att föra databas och även publicera kartor över Sverige, så länge som vi inte tar med några skyddsobjekt. Handläggaren på Lantmäteriet har skrivit ett öppet brev till OSM-deltagare, och har även

Re: [Talk-se] Lantmäteriverket har gett OSM tillstånd att föra databas och publicera kartor

2012-10-18 Thread Markus Lindholm
2012/10/18 joha...@goteborg.cc: Hej, jag har blivit kontaktad av Lantmäteriverket som vill delge oss beslutet att de ger oss tillstånd att föra databas och även publicera kartor över Sverige, så länge som vi inte tar med några skyddsobjekt. Det där låter problematiskt. Skulle OSM behöva

Re: [Talk-se] Lantmäteriverket har gett OSM tillstånd att föra databas och publicera kartor

2012-10-18 Thread Tobias Johansson
hmm visste inte att det fanns någon FRA-byggnad i OSM. Detta skall ju vara jättehemligt. Den 18 oktober 2012 19:48 skrev Markus Lindholm markus.lindh...@gmail.com: 2012/10/18 joha...@goteborg.cc: Hej, jag har blivit kontaktad av Lantmäteriverket som vill delge oss beslutet att de ger oss

Re: [Talk-se] Lantmäteriverket har gett OSM tillstånd att föra databas och publicera kartor

2012-10-18 Thread Bo Lindbergh
2012-10-18 kl. 19.48 skrev Markus Lindholm: 2012/10/18 joha...@goteborg.cc: Hej, jag har blivit kontaktad av Lantmäteriverket som vill delge oss beslutet att de ger oss tillstånd att föra databas och även publicera kartor över Sverige, så länge som vi inte tar med några skyddsobjekt. Det

Re: [Talk-se] Lantmäteriverket har gett OSM tillstånd att föra databas och publicera kartor

2012-10-18 Thread Simon Josefsson
tor 2012-10-18 klockan 20:51 +0200 skrev Bo Lindbergh: 2012-10-18 kl. 19.48 skrev Markus Lindholm: 2012/10/18 joha...@goteborg.cc: Hej, jag har blivit kontaktad av Lantmäteriverket som vill delge oss beslutet att de ger oss tillstånd att föra databas och även publicera kartor över

Re: [Talk-se] Lantmäteriverket har gett OSM tillstånd att föra databas och publicera kartor

2012-10-18 Thread Erik Johansson
2012/10/18 Bo Lindbergh b...@stacken.kth.se: 2012-10-18 kl. 19.48 skrev Markus Lindholm: 2012/10/18 joha...@goteborg.cc: Hej, jag har blivit kontaktad av Lantmäteriverket som vill delge oss beslutet att de ger oss tillstånd att föra databas och även publicera kartor över Sverige, så länge

Re: [Talk-se] Lantmäteriverket har gett OSM tillstånd att föra databas och publicera kartor

2012-10-18 Thread Johan Jönsson
Simon Josefsson simon at josefsson.org writes: 2012/10/18 johan.j at goteborg.cc: Hej, jag har blivit kontaktad av Lantmäteriverket som vill delge oss beslutet att de ger oss tillstånd att föra databas och även publicera kartor över Sverige, så länge som vi inte tar med några

Re: [Talk-se] Lantmäteriverket har gett OSM tillstånd att föra databas och publicera kartor

2012-10-18 Thread Christian Asker
Hej. Jag har sökt tillstånd, men bara ett personligt sådant. Men eftersom Lantmäteriet kände till OSM-projektet och eftersom flera hade sökt tillstånd ville dom ordna med ett allmänt tillstånd. I alla fall är det så jag har förstått saken. Vad gäller skyddsobjekten har vi lika lite tillstånd

Re: [Talk-es] doble nomenclatura de vías

2012-10-18 Thread Ricardo Sanz
ya he mirado y con el alt_ref, int_ref y el punto y coma no me muestra las 2 matrículas de las vías en Portugal (A22/IP1) he visto que añaden la ruta y sí sale http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37.17701lon=-7.59681zoom=17layers=M El 18 de octubre de 2012 01:36, Jaime Crespo jy...@jynus.com

[Talk-at] Fwd: [Open Government Data - OKFO] Gemeinde Engerwitzdorf veröffentlicht umfangreiches Datenportal

2012-10-18 Thread Stefan Tiran
Da in der E-Mail aufgefordert wurde, die Information weiterzuverbreiten: ---BeginMessage--- Liebe OGD-Community, wir freuen uns, dass die Gemeinde Engerwitzdorf in OÖ die erste kleine Gemeinde ist, die mit 95 Datensätzen einen sehr umfassenden Datenkatalog veröffentlicht hat! Infos dazu:

Re: [Talk-at] Fwd: [Open Government Data - OKFO] Gemeinde Engerwitzdorf veröffentlicht umfangreiches Datenportal

2012-10-18 Thread Andreas Labres
On 18.10.12 14:52, Jimmy_K wrote: Einen Vorschlag für die Source-Angabe? engerwitzdorf.at oder engerwitzdorf.gv.at /al ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at

Re: [Talk-lv] jautaajumi openfiremap autoram ?

2012-10-18 Thread Raitis U.
Lai šo izmantotu, kritiski trūkst: 1) Offline PC/mobilās aplikācijas (nezinu, varbūt osmand'ā var ielikt, lai kā POI rāda tikai šos?) Ja internets pazūd, vai arī saits noklājas, ko tad? 2) Adrešu meklēšanas 3) Drukāšanas pogas 2012/10/18 Aivars Miška all...@latnet.lv Mīļš paldies! Pirms gada

[OSM-talk-fr] [RECH] Un contributeur pédagogue sur Belfort ?

2012-10-18 Thread osm
Salut, Nous sommes une fédération de motards dans le Territoire de Belfort. Nous avons été particulièrement bien accueillis par M. Sibert sur une problématique de signalement de radar fixe/radar de feux. (Précisons que nous ne prônons pas la possibilité de s'affranchir des règles du code de la

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [RECH] Un contributeur pédagogue sur Belfort ?

2012-10-18 Thread jean-francois.nifenecker
(réponse très rapide car connectivité réduite aujourd'hui) Bonjour Mathieu, je serai sur Belfort à Noël (du 24 au 30/12). Si je peux être utile, ce sera avec plaisir. Amicalement, -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux (né à Héricourt et grandi à BF) Message du 18/10/12 08:16 De :

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Continued aggression against French contributors (cadastre integration)

2012-10-18 Thread Jo
(Désolé d'envoyer ce mail en anglais sur la liste talk-fr, mais c'est plutôt dirigé vers talk en général) I have been following talk-fr myself and my opinion on the 'efforts' of pnorman is that he is trying very hard to chase away well meaning contributors in France. The French cadastre is just

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [RECH] Un contributeur pédagogue sur Belfort ?

2012-10-18 Thread partir-en-vtt
Un petit tutoriel orienté grand public http://partir-en-vtt.com/php/articles/voir_article.php?id_article=282 que j'avais fait avec amour ne peut que te donner quelques bases pour débuter sur JOSM -- View this message in context:

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] DWG, nous et P. Norman

2012-10-18 Thread partir-en-vtt
Je valide tous les points mentionnées. On ne recule sur aucuns d'eux. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/DWG-us-and-pnorman-tp5731330p5731377.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] Message en anglais de pnorman

2012-10-18 Thread partir-en-vtt
+1 -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Fwd-OpenStreetMap-Message-en-anglais-de-pnorman-tp5731309p5731378.html Sent from the France mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [RECH] Un contributeur pédagogue sur Belfort ?

2012-10-18 Thread Vincent Pottier
Peut-être que c'est l'occasion de préparer et rédiger une fiche Osmecum spécifique, adaptée à une rencontre. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_France/Osmecum FrViPofm Le 18/10/2012 08:14, o...@ffmc90.org a écrit : Salut, Nous sommes une fédération de motards dans le Territoire

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] [RECH] Un contributeur pédagogue sur Belfort ?

2012-10-18 Thread Ab_fab
Oui, mais es-tu prêt à donner de l'amour IRL à un motard (en colère), pendant une heure. C'est la question ... [ Désolé, c'était tentant ;-) Ce tuto n'en reste pas moins très recommandable] Le 18 octobre 2012 09:48, partir-en-vtt ad...@partir-en-vtt.com a écrit : Un petit tutoriel orienté

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