Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

2016-06-20 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 20 June 2016 at 22:48, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: > Maps.me editor has got the principal difference from other editors, - it can > be used without an active Internet connection. I've been editing in JOSM for years and just started editing with Maps.me, and the fact that it's very fast and easy t

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

2016-06-21 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 21 June 2016 at 08:26, Nicolás Alvarez wrote: > But you don't need to; Maps.me already provides semi-official current map > files! > http://direct.mapswithme.com/regular/daily/ I assume I need to manually download these and put them in the right directory on my Android? Do you know if there i

Re: [OSM-talk] Subscribing to objects I have edited

2017-06-24 Thread Andrew Harvey
https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/issues/1454 It would be awesome to have this work natively on osm.org. On 24 Jun 2017 7:41 PM, "Bjoern Hassler" wrote: > Dear friends, > > I'm sure this would have been discussed before, but I'd like to raise it > again, I would really like

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Sourcing Open Aerial Imagery

2017-07-28 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 28 July 2017 at 00:23, Bryan Housel wrote: > TODO: We don’t have a template letter, or clear guidelines on which imagery > licenses are compatible with our use, and we should. See > https://github.com/osmlab/editor-layer-index/issues/166 . Like you said in > your other email, tracing is very

Re: [OSM-talk] An import in New Zealand, assistance requested

2017-08-17 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 16 August 2017 at 23:29, Richard wrote: > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 07:44:00AM -0400, john whelan wrote: >> >They have data for all of New Zealand >> 's roads, >> released under a license which is compatible with that of OSM. >> >> Has

Re: [OSM-talk] GDPR introduction

2018-04-17 Thread Andrew Harvey
Thank you those in the LWG that have put this paper together. My thoughts are OSM's ODBL license grants me the right to publish a version of http://hdyc.neis-one.org/ open to the public, not restricted to OSM users. Reading this, I understand the OSMF is proposing to introduce Terms of Use which ta

Re: [OSM-talk] GDPR introduction

2018-04-17 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 17 April 2018 at 23:31, Christoph Hormann wrote: > On Tuesday 17 April 2018, Simon Poole wrote: > > > > > * When you add new 'terms of use' or 'data processing agreement' > > > provisions that people who want to access OSM data with metadata > > > need to agree to does that constitute an amend

Re: [OSM-talk] Sidewalk symmetry

2018-04-17 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 18 April 2018 at 06:30, Jmapb wrote: > (My personal feeling is that that it's better to avoid mapping sidewalks > as separate ways unless there's a compelling reason that would outweigh the > additional data clutter and routing complications. In some circumstances -- > those where walking on t

Re: [OSM-talk] Changes to www.openstreetmap.org markup - where to requsest?

2018-06-16 Thread Andrew Harvey
https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

2018-08-10 Thread Andrew Harvey
On 10 August 2018 at 22:47, Michael Reichert wrote: > > There is no need for this data in OSM because the data can be retrieved > automatically from latitude and longitude (plain coordinates) which are > already assigned to anything which has a location on the planet. > > Adding Plus Code tags to

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=* + area=yes vs area:highway=*

2018-08-10 Thread Andrew Harvey
> No, all highways are areas :) Mapping them as a line is a manual generalization ;) Yes, but you're mapping the road centerline, which isn't a generalization but a real world feature. On 11 August 2018 at 15:56, Andrew Hain wrote: > The wiki has definitely had problems recently and we should

Re: [OSM-talk] Is it technically and legally possible to add the Open Location Code to the OSM search?

2018-08-11 Thread Andrew Harvey
> If the OSM community accepts the OpenLocationCode, then it would become de facto universal addressing system. Only then people may start believing and investing in it. As others have pointed out the proper place for OSM to support the OpenLocationCode in OSM is in https://nominatim.openstreetmap

Re: [OSM-talk] OEM Wiki is still slow to load

2018-10-03 Thread Andrew Harvey
I've noticed it too, it seems worse than it used to be. It'll around 4-10 seconds waiting for wiki.openstreetmap.org, but after than the whole page loads very fast. On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 at 21:15, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > 3. Oct 2018 13:09 by davefoxfa...@btinternet.com: > > Hi > > For the couple

[OSM-talk] Copying from a venue's website

2018-11-11 Thread Andrew Harvey
What's the acceptance on copying things like address, phone numbers, contact email, opening hours from a venue's website? Is that considered acceptable in OSM? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Streetview

2019-01-06 Thread Andrew Harvey
https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/710/can-i-use-google-streetview-to-help-create-maps On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 11:03, Alert Bouterse wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > I know that it is not allowed to use Google Maps to "copy" streetnames, but > my question is: is it allowed to use Google streetvi

Re: [OSM-talk] Galaxy S3 for Mapping

2015-02-01 Thread Andrew Harvey
I ensure I leave the app osmtracker tracking in the background, at least this way I can ensure that the GPS is constantly trying to get a fix, as the camera app may only try to get a GPS fix while it's active which might not leave enough time to get that fix? On 02/02/2015 12:52 pm, "Mike Thompson"

Re: [OSM-talk] Tools for a better tomorrow

2011-02-22 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Serge Wroclawski wrote: > I think there's been a useful discussion in the other thread for ideas > which might help the project move forward, and so I'm going to lay > them out and hopefully we'll have a more focused discussion. > > Idea 1: Better collaboration, e

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011-03-24 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:55 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 23 March 2011 20:45, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> I don't agree. Of course it is important how much of the data will >> survive, but it is even more important to not loose active >> contributors. > > Many that were previously active contrib

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011-03-24 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 7:40 PM, Steve Doerr wrote: > On 24/03/2011 08:23, Andrew Harvey wrote: > >> ...and many prospective contributors are being shunned away because a >> new contributor doesn't have the same privileges as existing >> contributors. i.e. existin

Re: [OSM-talk] CC-BY-SA still available?

2011-04-16 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Michael Collinson wrote: > ...From Sunday, we will run 5 weeks allowing folks > who decline the ability to continue editing, i.e. CC-BY-SA only > contributions. The objective is get the remaining 77,000 to accept or > decline. If that runs slowly, we add up to 5 mo

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-16 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: > the last time I read the CTs (which have several versions), there was a > clear reference to me having the rights to the data and perpetually > licensing those rights to another organisation > That would stop me signing up whether I used Yah

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Hitting reset on talk-au

2011-07-11 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Steve Coast wrote: > I'm speaking strictly personally here, posting to talk@ and opengeodata. > > OSM often crosses bridges in it's growth. Mostly they're technical, like > introducing color maps, rendering new things or speeding up the system. We > have a much m

Re: [OSM-talk] How to start to remove non-CT compliant data..

2011-09-06 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Jo wrote: > It would indeed be great if we could use an arbitrary version of an object > to continue to build upon. Now, I have to start all over on each object that > was touched by somebody who didn't agree (yet) to the CTs, which is > annoying, as it disrupts the

Re: [OSM-talk] Unclosed Mapnik bugs

2011-09-15 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:34 PM, Josh Doe wrote: > I think part of the problem is the high barrier to entry for editing > the Mapnik style. I've made 1 commit to the main stylesheet and while it was technically straightforward, the understanding of the community of people who work on it wasn't. B

Re: [OSM-talk] British Antarctic Territories

2011-09-26 Thread Andrew Harvey
A while back I downloaded some 7000 full resolution scans from the NLA, mostly public domain. e.g. like this one http://nla.gov.au/nla.map-rm4049. I've been using them here and there for OSM where I tag with source_ref(:.+)?=http://nla.gov.au/* However I had a quick look by couldn't find yours amon

Re: [OSM-talk] Things People Say

2012-01-05 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Michal Migurski wrote: >> OpenStreetMaps has its own data but it is provided by a community that does >> not have as much momentum as Wikipedia, even New York City data is pretty >> much incomplete[1] > > This was in response to the out-of-date NYC page on the wi

[OSM-talk] deep diff tool free software?

2012-02-11 Thread Andrew Harvey
Is the deep diff tool mentioned in the quote below free and open source software? On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Richard Weait wrote: > Ian Dees excellent deep diff tool will show you the history of a > single object.  http://osm.mapki.com/history/ _

Re: [OSM-talk] deep diff tool free software?

2012-02-12 Thread Andrew Harvey
iandees/osm-deep-history > > I don't believe he's put a license on it, likely since no one has asked. > https://github.com/iandees/osm-deep-history > >> From: Andrew Harvey [mailto:andrew.harv...@gmail.com] >> Subject: [OSM-talk] deep diff tool free software? >&g

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC: what are empty nodes and how should we use them?

2010-08-15 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Renaud MICHEL wrote: > Maybe most of those empty nodes are remnants from some time ago, when some > editors would delete a way, but not the nodes it contained (I think there > used to be such a bug, even before I started contributing to OSM). Empty nodes can also

[OSM-talk] Notifications for objects touched by a given user

2010-08-30 Thread Andrew Harvey
Does anyone know if there is an easy way for a user (A) to receive notifications (either by email or by some API query (RSS or Atom results best, but any XML format would do)) for objects that have been changed that the user (A) has at one point touched? ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Think before you bot

2010-09-27 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Morten Kjeldgaard wrote: > Another issue is that bots tend to change tags in the entire planet in one > huge changeset, which means that history feeds are polluted. It is quite > easy to reprogram the bot so it makes edits locally, i.e. in a primary area > subdivis

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] In what direction should OSM go?

2010-09-29 Thread Andrew Harvey
I feel some clarification on what is meant by "import" is needed. For example recently I've been "importing" names of bays from public domain maps. I call adding this data from the PD maps to OSM importing because the data was created somewhere else first, even though I'm adding it on a case-by-cas

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-newbies] Estuaries and large bays

2010-10-23 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 5:55 AM, swanilli wrote: > On 20/10/2010, Richard Weait wrote: >> There are almost 15000 points in the OSM database that include >> natural=bay. There are 241 polygons that include natural=bay. >> >> Place a point in the bay, and tag it as >> natural=bay >> name=My Bay Nam

Re: [OSM-talk] Historical Data in OSM database

2010-11-09 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Pieren wrote: > And without going back to the ancient Rome, every day some OSM data become > obsolete (shops dissapearing, builings/roads destroyed, etc) and the average > contributor will just delete them and not just add a tag 'end_date'. Just a thought, perhaps

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at the Bing Terms of Use?

2010-12-06 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:55 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > The situation is sufficient for me to use Bing imagery for tracing. I'm not > looking at the legal side of it, I'm just looking at the size of the PR > disaster should Microsoft attempt to backtrack in any way. > > PR is more important than le

Re: [OSM-talk] Unsetting CT flag

2010-12-07 Thread Andrew Harvey
If the OSMF won't uncheck your acceptance of the CT's, then I think they should at least hold of damaging the database by removing your edits until after this proposed change to ODbL. Otherwise if people insist and actually start removing this data, its time for the CC BY-SA forks to kick in. I jus

Re: [OSM-talk] Unsetting CT flag

2010-12-08 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:14 AM, David Murn wrote: > Failing that, maybe its time that more people started doing what Im > doing. Im quite an active mapper, as its something I enjoy doing with > my time. What Ive been doing for the past couple of months, is only > making minor edits live, but for

Re: [OSM-talk] Massive import of airports

2010-12-17 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Stefan de Konink wrote: > Come on, this is non-sense. If someone accepted the CT and imports the data, > it should be enough. I disagree, if there is reasonable evidence or suspicion that the data may have licensing problems then we should ask the source of that d

Re: [OSM-talk] Massive import of airports

2010-12-17 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Stefan de Konink wrote: > On Fri, 17 Dec 2010, Andrew Harvey wrote: > >> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Stefan de Konink >> wrote: >>> >>> Come on, this is non-sense. If someone accepted the CT and imports the >>> da

Re: [OSM-talk] Converting buildings from nodes to ways

2010-12-23 Thread Andrew Harvey
I was advised on the newbies list a while ago to make that initial node part of the new way. ie. you move the node to somewhere on the edge of the building, then start tracing from that node. This means the node isn't deleted and one can see where in the history this node was converted from a lone

Re: [OSM-talk] HTTPS all the Things (Automated Edit)

2019-03-25 Thread Andrew Harvey
Any chance you could do more changes per changeset? At the moment this is flooding feeds in osmcha with many small changesets, it would be easier if you did one big changeset. On Fri, 22 Feb 2019 at 18:05, Bryce Jasmer wrote: > I have written a script that will search for OSM objects that have a

Re: [OSM-talk] HTTPS all the Things (Automated Edit)

2019-03-25 Thread Andrew Harvey
For example https://openstreetmap.org/changeset/68527117 changed just one feature, there were about 20 other changes all in the same city, maybe the script has run it's course now I don't know, it's just lots of small changesets clog up osmcha making it harder to skip over them in bulk. On Tue, 26

Re: [OSM-talk] Documenting controversial iD decisions

2019-05-28 Thread Andrew Harvey
I'm not sure if this should be added, but at the time how iD decided to add presets for lifeguards facilities was controversial. We used to have documented on the wiki and in use: emergency=lifeguard_place emergency=lifeguard_base emergency=lifeguard_tower emergency=lifeguard_platform Which each

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenTrailView 360 - StreetView-like application for hikers

2019-05-31 Thread Andrew Harvey
A neat thing you can do is infill the base of the image where your hand/body/head are to make it less distracting. For example all my 360 images on Mapillary do this -> https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/xfQGW4eK_ntjhRNyXDW5bQ The script I use for this is https://github.com/andrewharvey/lg360-mapill

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit - remove blatant duplicates (sustenance=fast_food on amenity=fast_food, atm=yes on amenity=atm etc.)

2019-06-14 Thread Andrew Harvey
I think this proposed edit is reasonable, it makes things simpler without loosing any information. On Fri, 14 Jun 2019 at 17:30, Johnparis wrote: > From a user perspective, I want to be able to search for atm=yes to obtain > all the nearby ATMs. Removing this tag leaves me without standalone ATM

Re: [OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update

2019-08-10 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Sat, 10 Aug 2019 at 17:27, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > It's even hard to recommend apps like Maps.me when they don't > attribute Openstreetmap, instead putting their own logo in the lower > right corner. > > If people don't know that OSM is the source of the data in a map, they > won't know how

Re: [OSM-talk] Using OSM as database for nature park hiking routes?

2019-08-13 Thread Andrew Harvey
The hiking routes https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hiking#Tagging_walking_and_hiking_Route_Networks added to OSM should be verifiable https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Verifiability. Talking from my experience, there are a lot of hiking paths, but only some are signposted routes, so only some

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcing Daylight Map Distribution

2020-03-10 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 21:14, Volker Schmidt wrote: > I expect this Facebook operation to produce much more changes or potential > changes (=suspected errors). > What we need for both cases and similar ones in the future is a way of > being able to identify such changes, which by their nature wil

Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

2020-03-11 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 12:51, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 8:23 PM Jack Armstrong > wrote: > >> How would this be tagged? I can't seem to find anything about this on the >> wiki. Perhaps I'm just not looking in the right place. Thanks. >> > > The sign itself would be highway=tra

Re: [OSM-talk] Flashing school speed limit sign

2020-03-12 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 17:31, Maarten Deen wrote: > maxspeed:conditional=20 @ flashing? > It is free form, so you can fill in anything you like. If it catches on, > the people who make the navigation will start to use it. > That sounds good and seems in line with what people are already doing. _

Re: [OSM-talk] It's time to manage libraries properly in OSM

2020-04-20 Thread Andrew Harvey
Agreed that we could do better, see the proposal process for new tags https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process. Currently we can already mark if the library is open to the public on not (access=yes means open to the general public), but it's unclear how say a school library or library

Re: [OSM-talk] It's time to manage libraries properly in OSM

2020-04-20 Thread Andrew Harvey
ional library only open to students I guess you could say they are "customers" of the university, it's just a bit less clear. On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 11:29, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 21/4/20 10:44 am, Andrew Harvey wrote: > > Agreed that we could do b

Re: [OSM-talk] Examples at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access

2020-05-24 Thread Andrew Harvey
More examples are very helpful, so than you, but in my opinion the examples should go near the end, at least after the specification (so list of transport modes and possible values) 1. Introduction (as exists) 2. Full list of transport modes 3. List of possible values 4. Examples On Sun, 24 May 2

Re: [OSM-talk] Facebook acquires crowdsourced mapping company Mapillary

2020-06-18 Thread Andrew Harvey
+ Jan's diary post https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jesolem/diary/393358 On Fri, 19 Jun 2020 at 09:22, Shaun McDonald wrote: > Thanks for the heads up. > > They’ve also posted a blog post about it: > https://blog.mapillary.com/news/2020/06/18/Mapillary-joins-Facebook.html > > Supposedly no cha

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of OSM data without attribution

2020-08-20 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 11:11, Andy Townsend wrote: > > Indeed, and by the time they get to us they are usually "rabbits of > negative euphoria"* because of the less than stellar support experience > they've had at AllTrails. > > Looking at e.g. > https://www.alltrails.com/explore/list/yorkshire-w

Re: [OSM-talk] New API suggestion: Allowing contributors to easily track their OSM-objects over time

2020-08-22 Thread Andrew Harvey
I think you can set this up with OSM Hall Monitor https://github.com/ethan-nelson/osm_hall_monitor by tracking all the objects you touch and setting them up as subscriptions. Personally I found it easier to just subscribe to my whole city in OSMCha. Nothing is stopping such a system being built a

Re: [OSM-talk] Call for verification (Was: Re: VANDALISM !)

2020-08-22 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Sat, 22 Aug 2020 at 18:28, pangoSE wrote: > Hi 😀 > > Mateusz Konieczny skrev: (22 augusti 2020 > 09:55:10 CEST) > >"It a playground with half-ass quality more than an authoritative and > >verified source of information (like e.g. Wikipedia)" > > > >I am not sure whatever you claim that > >Wik

Re: [OSM-talk] "Limitations on mapping private information" - wiki page

2020-09-16 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 18:04, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Yes, we do not map individual ownership of land and buildings generally, > but unless the owner is a person, we could and privacy regulations would > not prevent us from doing it. It also isn’t an argument for refraining from > mapping pr

Re: [OSM-talk] Website showing what was just edited

2020-09-16 Thread Andrew Harvey
Other tools also listed at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM-based_services#Live.2Freal-time_edits_to_OSM_data On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 05:20, Michał Brzozowski wrote: > It was called Show me the Way ( https://osmlab.github.io/show-me-the-way/ > ). > > Greetings > > Michał > > wt., 1

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging an abandoned path?

2020-09-25 Thread Andrew Harvey
Abandoned is a tricky concept for a path, what make is abandoned? If there is a sign up saying track closed or keep out for re-vegetation it's clear, but otherwise it's less clear. On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 at 01:36, Andy Townsend wrote: > Once it's definitely disappeared, I'd have no qualms about del

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated Populate/Update Problem

2022-09-28 Thread Andrew Harvey
Yep you'll reach Victorian and Australian mappers better on talk-au as some might not join the global talk list -> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au. I'll echo other's comments here, if you are planning or have done the conflation I'd suggest sharing those results so the community c

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] Adoption of OSM geometry as state mapping base

2023-02-09 Thread Andrew Harvey
Hi Rob, Interesting point you raise! While on the surface you'd think terms (from the OSMF Terms of Use https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use#III._Unlawful_and_other_unauthorized_uses) only ask you not to use OSMF services like the website, API for those purposes and not the data, it i

Re: [OSM-talk] Adoption of OSM geometry as state mapping base

2023-02-10 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Sat, 11 Feb 2023, 2:09 am Greg Troxel, wrote: > rob potter writes: > > As others pointed out those are website terms. You want to use the > data, not the website, and you should read the Open Database License. > The terms cover data distribution, ie downloading from planet.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] ODbl concerns

2023-07-02 Thread Andrew Harvey
Hi Robert, To preface, I'm not a lawyer and your should seek your own independent legal advice, but as I understand: 1. the department has made a decision to adopt OSM as your data source, accepting the terms this data is licensed under 2. you will adapt, modify, enhance, correct or extend OSM da