Re: [OSM-talk] New mailing list about machine learning and OSM

eral purpose algorithms'. But machine learning for the name of the mailing list is fine. In OSM we know to distinguish between a label (like a tag) and its meaning. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] New mailing list about machine learning and OSM

he context of database systems, which i however have the impression is not what you are talking about. Most terms in this field are politically connotated - "artificial intelligence" implying a similarity to human intelligence, "machine learning" implying a similarity to human

Re: [OSM-talk] Règles d'éditions organisées / Directed editing guidelines

do not want to do is sitting there and hoping for corporations to discover morality and realizing that in the long term this is more important than short term profits. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion_and_the_Frog -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ _

Re: [OSM-talk] Règles d'éditions organisées / Directed editing guidelines

ing nothing but a data wasteland for locals to deal with after the invadors have left. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL

siness partners of Facebook, in particular ones who are interested and depend on having a good relationship with OSM and publicly ask them (via Twitter for example) why they are cooperating with a company that systematically violates the OSM license. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/

Re: [OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL

must not do it is to negotiate with corporations like Facebook about to what extent they must follow the license. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL

everyone internalizes that being lenient on sustained license violations is not a way to support adoption of OSM as a data source but primarily a way to alienate huge parts of the contributor base. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ t

Re: [OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL

ary/005862.html but this is more about behavioural rules. The requirement to comply with the license (which is something every OSMF data users has to do) is not something that makes sense to specifically ask from corporate members. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Terminate Facebook rights under ODbL

ertised on osm.org (via iD editor and osm-community-index): https://github.com/osmlab/osm-community-index/search?q=facebook_q=facebook -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Anyone who likes to organize an ID discussion panel at SotM?

ns around OSM which are often much more centralized and based on an exceptionalist principle. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform

nually trigger this feature but not being transparent about what this actually does is not a very good one. But indeed this is somwhat sidestepping the core issue here. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform

the version deployed on osm.org? -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform

still should happen - if for no other reason than as a safety check to avoid errors. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform

the API and accordingly should not be available on osm.org. I don't know if iD in its current configuation does this but this seems so obvious and self evident as a principle that it is not even necessary to codify this into written policy IMO. -- Christoph

Re: [Talk-de] boundarys / river als boundary / admin_level?

g/2018-March/thread.html#35347 -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [OSM-talk] iD invents nosquare=yes for buildings which should not be squared

ltation with the broader community when making tagging related decisions. But it does not look like it now. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM for training ML machines

he only consistent view of these concepts is IMO to consider them to be limited exclusively to cases when you are talking about things produced for and used only for direct human consumption. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ legal-talk mailing l

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM for training ML machines

are not the result of a literal copy but result from 'knowledge' encoded in a neural network. When considering this subject, maybe think of it less as a question of copying data, think of it more as a process of mimicry. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OSM for training ML machines

use of OSM data, in particular in the context of 'big data', > and how this relates to the ODbL.  It seems to me opinions on this > are too much based on wishful thinking and too little aim to form a > consistent framework that supports desirable and harmless use cases > but does not create l

Re: [Talk-de] Besorgt über den iD-Editor

ich arbeiten. Was glaubst Du wie groß das Geschrei wäre, wenn - rein theoretisch - irgendwann herauskäme, dass das ein von der russischen/chinesischen Regierung finanziertes Projekt bei Critigen ist... -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ T

Re: [Talk-de] Besorgt über den iD-Editor

Richtung gegen die Interessen der Mapper gesehen werden sollte. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [OSM-talk] Your thoughts on osm.org

offered on it. Rethinking what further content and functions are directly accessible from the starting page makes a lot of sense. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[Talk-de] Bericht aus dem OSMF-Advisory-Board

-- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

ague, that isn't even the same sport. You give first rate attribution to OSM and second rate attribution to everything else. Been there, done that, not a problem: http://maps.imagico.de/#map=3/82.576/19.421=en=topo=arctic=0 -- Christoph Hormann

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

eral occasions - like https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2018-January/thread.html#8648 My hope is that future new guidelines as well as refinements of existing ones take such lessons learned into account and put the viability of what i called "the social contract among map

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

t is actually the case and if it was that would be more or less "suicide out of fear of death". This is what can and should be debated - not what level of weaseling around the ODbL is still acceptable. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mai

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

he EU commission i cannot help pointing out that the EU commission is also responsible for one of the most ridiculous cases of inproper attribution i have seen so far: https://scihub.copernicus.eu/dhus/ -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___

Re: [OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

ttribution and share-alike requirements. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Bot edits on the OSM wiki

additional means with extended power for people to pursue their personal interests and would likely aggrevate the problem rather than solving it. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Bot edits on the OSM wiki

one on the wiki that motivated me to start this thread would very likely never have found approval from the community. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Bot edits on the OSM wiki

sing membership in the aristocratic class on the technical ability to develop and run bots is quite obviously a bad idea. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Bot edits on the OSM wiki

out). * create a bot free fork of the OSM wiki and maintain the original OSM wiki as a zone where bots are allowed. * create some other new platform of communication and cooperative documentation writing as alternative to the wiki where bots are banned. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de

Re: [OSM-talk] How are you dealing with projects not following Organized Editing Guidelines?

you are the guardians of your local map, it is both your right and your duty to safeguard the quality and integrity of the map in your area. The key here is to be friendly but resolute - making clear that this is not a formality but that they have to abide by the standards of the local community.

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendered boundary not present in data

You could try touching (i.e. creating a new version of) both of the boundary relations involved - in this case: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/189416 -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Looking for phot of mapping mappers

icular https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Guagua_ESSC-OSMPH_Training_field_survey.jpg -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

king. And the only basis for such evaluation could be to measure if they are being followed. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

and French so far). -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

t background knowledge about the wiki you don't have an edit history of the document where you can look how it changed over time. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

e no objections to that but i think you should either indicate that the page with the guideline should not be edited by anyone except OSMF board or DWG or mention that this version is being worked on continuously by the community and the authoritive version is to be found elsewhere. -- Christo

Re: [OSM-talk] Organised Editing Guidelines now officially live

the guidelines and defined the scope to prevent those problems > without creating loopholes or negative incentives like encouraging > salami tactics. We will see - you know i have doubts about this and i am particularly on the lookout for the first case of "let me through, it's an emergenc

Re: [OSM-talk] Help with way forward with Grab

rbitrary number of people might hide. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-de] Hat der Renderer Probleme?

eiten. Müsste nur mal jemand umrechnen. Siehe auch: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/2524 -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

econd rate attribution is such a clear cut case that it could and should be covered. In particular since the wording of the OdbL is quite clear in attribution being not a technical formality but a matter of actual de facto user experience. -- Christoph Hormann

Re: [Talk-de] Feature Proposal - Abstimmung von "Empfehlung zur Verwendung von Multipolygonen"

jedermann verständlichen Handreichung zum Mappen von Flächen/zur Verwendung von Multipolygonen kommen, die dem Konsens der lokalen Community in Deutschland entspricht. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Feature Proposal - Abstimmung von "Empfehlung zur Verwendung von Multipolygonen"

verstehen und den die allermeisten unterstützen können. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [OSM-talk] Grab using OSM Data for route preview

se make sure to clearly condemn second rate attribution like on: https://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2016-07/china-hat-keinen-gebietsanspruch-auf-inseln-im-suedchinesischen-meer -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk maili

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence for Sentinel Satellite images

val or confirmation in OSM but there is no reason to assume there to be any legal issues. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Licence for Sentinel Satellite images

de you with additional information that is useful for improving the accuracy and reliability of mapping. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

fore this discussion started here. I included the link to not unecessarily have to repeat myself in the discussion. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

map/ -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

th". Independent verifiability, i.e. that you can verify statements through independent observation without access to the same sources is and has always been the core of verifiability in OSM. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

means *independent* verifiability. If verifying a statement depends on a singular authority that is not compatible with the concept of OpenStreetMap's independent, intersubjective verifiability. Same as restaurant star ratings etc. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

ervations in the real world in favor of Wikipedia verifiability based on 'reliable sources'. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Ground truth for non-physical objects

ties themselves or physical effects of these activities. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Board decision on Crimea complaint

irony of this is just priceless. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-de] Feature Proposal - RFC - Empfehlung zur Verwendung von Multipolygonen

r nützlich, solche tradierten Konventionen auch mal aufzuschreiben - selbst wenn so eine Ausformulierung natürlich zwangsläufig eine subjektive Wahrnehmung wiederspiegelt. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Feature Proposal - RFC - Empfehlung zur Verwendung von Multipolygonen

beiden Fälle dann idealerweise praktisch gemappt werden sollten. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Einführung von Regeln für die Verwendung von Relationen mit type=multipolygon

-Teppiche' oder pseudo-englische Begriffe wie 'Outer-Way' oder 'Inner-Ringe' zu machen. Frederiks Empfehlungen zur Flächenverklebung sind da ein gutes Lehrbeispiel, wie man sowas kurz, präzise und logisch stringent formuliert. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF silently sides with Russia?

s specific case) And there are of course also cases where the overlap represents an undisputed situation: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3659532 -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.op

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF silently sides with Russia?

resent this in OSM if that was still the situation today. OpenStreetMap is not Wikipedia. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF silently sides with Russia?

eliminate all disputes. We would also eliminate any meaning of OSM data as a representation of a verifiably observable geographic reality. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstre

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF silently sides with Russia?

claim something is theirs). -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-de] Erinnerung an den fristgerechten OSMF-Beitritt für die OSMF-Vorstandswahl

mal einen kurzen Hinweis auf den entsprechenden Kanälen posten ist schon eine Menge Wert. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

[Talk-de] Fragen an OSMF-Vorstands-Kandidaten

sich nicht so Sorgen um Redundanz in den Fragen machen muss, da diese sowieso noch mal durchgeschaut und ggf. zusammengefasst werden. Trotzdem macht es natürlich Sinn zu schauen, ob die Frage für die man sich interessiert sinngemäß schon jemand gestellt hat. -- Christoph Hormann http

Re: [Talk-de] Nicht alle CoC sind schlect! Re: Werdet Mitglied in der OSM Foundation!

anchmal anstrengend - grundsätzlich erst einmal eine Bereicherung. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Werdet Mitglied in der OSM Foundation!

s://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/2018-September/005299.html https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Stereo/diary/45132 -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Nicht alle CoC sind schlect! Re: Werdet Mitglied in der OSM Foundation!

n von Verhaltensregulierung zu. Eine offene Diskussion zur Frage von Verhaltens-Regeln und ihrer praktischen Ausgestaltung, die sich den praktischen und moralischen Herausforderungen in einem globalen und kulturell vielfältigen Projekt wie OpenStreetMap stellt, finde ich g

Re: [Talk-de] Nicht alle CoC sind schlect! Re: Werdet Mitglied in der OSM Foundation!

ren, die am Ende homogen eine bestimmte Meinung zu den Themen der OSMF vertritt, sondern Leute als Mitglieder zu haben, die halbwegs repräsentativ die Interessen der aktiven lokalen Mapper und die Werte des Projektes vertreten. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: DWG policy on Crimea

f the administrative boundary data in OSM is imported and never has actually been verified on the ground is a different matter. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: DWG policy on Crimea

fiably observable nature of reality. If data users need additional data for their purposes they need to obtain it from other sources. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-de] Androhung von Benutzersperren für Verklebe-Ideologie

ben - in > zwei Teile teilen. > > 3. Wenn dann jemand kommt und das schön entklebt, ist das ok. > > 4. Du kannst niemals einen entklebten Wald entlang einer Straße > wieder verkleben. Klingt gut - und das ist denke ich auch weit verbreitet die gelebte Praxis. --

Re: [Talk-de] Androhung von Benutzersperren für Verklebe-Ideologie

Fällen eine Art Grenzbebauung oder > -bepflanzung gibt. Ich bin mir nicht sicher, ob Du meine Annahme in Frage stellst, dass die Aufteilung von Flächen anerkannte Mapping-Praxis ist oder ob Du denkst, dass die Regel "Aufteilung ja, aber niemals entlang einer Straße" unproblemat

Re: [Talk-de] Androhung von Benutzersperren für Verklebe-Ideologie

Da wir gleichzeitig die etablierte Regel haben, dass Waldflächen und ähnliches in kleine, handhabbare und ggf. ohne Multipolygone mapbare Stücke aufgeteilt werden können und sollten, würde diese Regel im Grunde bedeuten: Man darf aufteilen, aber niemals entlang einer Straße. Das wäre dann ein bissche

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] [OSM-dev] Tool update from HOT: MapCampaigner

have only very few automated QA tools that use any kind of outside reference to gauge accuracy of the data. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Tool update from HOT: MapCampaigner

contrast to engaging in an open argument about the best approach and trying to convince people this way. You should probably think carefully if this is what you want to communicate here. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ t

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

On Sunday 23 September 2018, Tobias Knerr wrote: > On 23.09.2018 17:07, Christoph Hormann wrote: > > If you'd now impose > > technical constraints preventing mappers from documenting things > > that do not match a certain ideal of structure would you would > > effective

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

pages. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Does this Antarctic airfield exist?

ite a few featutes in the Antarctic). -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Wikibase is now live

e technical constraints preventing mappers from documenting things that do not match a certain ideal of structure would you would effectively make the wiki unsuitable for its primary application and mappers would need to set up a new place to document their tags.

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Update from HOT on machine learning in the Tasking Manager

area". There are of course also QA tasks where AI can be more useful for like the typical needle-in-a-haystack problems. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

presented that makes sense, somethings that helps someone to locate something does not cut it. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Extend natural=shingle tag also for city stone areas.

extending natural=shingle to urban areas artificially covered with loose stones based on a physical similarity. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-de] Neues Förderangebot von WMDE für Projekte um OSM

u bezahlen. Das kollidiert bei uns recht stark mit der Kultur der freiwilligen ehrenamtlichen Arbeit im Verein. Wenn Wikimedia hier Möglichkeiten hat wäre das möglicherweise eine gute Ergänzung. Aber das hier verlinkte Förder-Angebot klammert diesen Bereich ja auch erkennbar aus. -

Re: [Talk-de] Neues Förderangebot von WMDE für Projekte um OSM

dass ich das kritisch sehe. Wie Wikimedia mit der Kritik umgeht ist deren Sache, für mich wäre jetzt garnicht so entscheidend, da die Ausschreibung zu modifizieren (obwohl das sicher nicht verkehrt wäre), sondern dass das in die Diskussion eingeht und man sich der Problematik bewusst wi

Re: [Talk-de] Neues Förderangebot von WMDE für Projekte um OSM

"Kameras für Mapillary-Aufnahmen" unterstützen möchte. Das zu kritisieren ist in keinster Weise akademisch. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Neues Förderangebot von WMDE für Projekte um OSM

. Der Kritikpunkt von Frederik bezieht sich auf die Unterstützung solcher Firmen, in diesem Fall die Unterstützung dafür, Bilder für Mapillary aufzunehmen. Das ist etwas qualitativ deutlich anderes. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Ta

Re: [Talk-de] Wege des WSV an den Kanälen / tagging

erisch. Eben - und Sprachsemantik-Diskussion was genau das Wort Wirtschaftsweg bedeutet führt auch zu nichts. Am Ende braucht es praktisch überprüfbare Kriterien. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.o

Re: [Talk-de] Wege des WSV an den Kanälen / tagging

se praktisch identifizieren kann. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

f encoded coordinate systems but because of digital technology increasingly allowing dynamically connecting people with locations (and Amazon will just send you your order to whereever you are - or where you are likely to be when the order is shipped). -- Christoph Hormann http://ww

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

eds to include the name - kind of like name_is_a_necessary_part_of_address=yes (not a serious suggestion in this form but you probably get the idea) as to explicitly indicate the lack of a house number. Also i kind of doubt if this form of specifying the lack of a house number is that common ma

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

unique. I can confirm from having worked there > that it has indeed no housenumber. Yes, that looks like a good example for the first case. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

gging somehow. And And I don't think the fact that there is no house number needs to be specifically indicated then. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

ldings which happen to have the same address (which clashes with my understanding of the concept of an address). Note to document a building/place belongs to a certain street we also have the concept of the associatedStreet relation. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:a

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

On Wednesday 22 August 2018, Rory McCann wrote: > > The single most important property of an address is that it is > > unique > > 35% of addresses in Ireland aren't unique. I strongly suspect we have a different understanding of either 'address' or 'uniqueness' here. -- Chri

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

ne building at this street or with this postcode) or if you want to defend pointless or non-verifiable tagging of addr:street for buildings without a unique address. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

en if you can specify a street, city etc. at/in which it is located. Specifying addr:street on a building that does not have an address is either pointless or non-verifiable. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk maili

Re: [OSM-talk] Representing places with no housenumber

noaddress -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-de] Wege des WSV an den Kanälen / tagging

way/32900245 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/226693121 https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/491176756 Grüße, -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

se=residential mapping in Eastern Africa this is not the worst data in the database, not by a large margin. I just pointed it out here as an example because it was a perfect fit for the idea John brought up. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

verifiable mapping of settlements in the area than what we can see now in the database. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

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