Re: [OSM-talk] Friends

2011-11-30 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Maybe we should allow teenage users to shoot nude pictures of themselves, upload, and share with friends. Or maybe, just maybe, some of the blessed developers who know Rails well enough could help make connecting with other mappers easier/smoother/even_delightful So, +1 for Martijn's idea(s).

[OSM-talk] You've downloaded too much data

2011-12-03 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Would someone know if there's any problem w OSM servers right now? We're having a training in Haiti (for mobile money agent mappers) and the server refuses download with error code 509. I first thought, and partially still do, that this was/is due to ten students using the same ip-address(?)

[OSM-talk] Moderating / Quality checking OSM contributions -- was: Re: OSmosa.net run now.., contribution model

2011-12-06 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
This is precisely what I've seen in Haiti and discussed with a number of the local contributors, too. That is: as the contributors' tech-savvyness decreases we see a clear hike in various sorts of data problems. Bundle that with not-so-large active user base (of people who do quality fixing)

Re: [OSM-talk] [CrisisMappers] odbl non-agreement and humanitarian exceptions.

2012-02-02 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
(Added talk-ht@osm as that might well reach some ppl involved that the other lists don't.) Having bn part of the below-mentioned #OSM IRC discussion (finally using irc after 15 years of avoiding, ayii!) Here's my 2 cents: The OSM Haiti data's v1 odbl complient edit rates for nodes and ways are

Re: [OSM-talk] Subscribe to feeds of changes in your area with Changepipe

2012-02-02 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
This is kick-ass great, again. Dead-simple way to create areas to follow. I love it how easy it is to create the polygons -- and get the plain txt coordinates for them. Could this polygon tool pt b integrated w OWL? Can someone give guidance on visualizing the feed content? I'm copying this

Re: [OSM-talk] Contact And Remap Campaign

2012-02-09 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
I don't remap because I lack official and final rules (and tool(s)) for what needs to be remapped. +1 In addition to this my other reasons are: * Limited time vs. Possibility to reduce re-mapping needs by undecided accepting the new license+CTs. Toby has clearly detailed how powerful this

[OSM-talk] Recommendations for cheap passive GPS trackers / vehicle mountable GPS loggers?

2012-02-13 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Hi there, There was a thread a while ago on GPS loggers but I'd have a slightly modified question on the same field: Could someone recommend essentially GPS logger solutions that would be temporarily installed in vehicles for gathering information for preferrably a week, two or even three for

Re: [OSM-talk] iPhoto for iOS Not Using Google Maps

2012-03-09 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Jaime wrote: My guess is that, at least in my area, they are mixing OSM geometries and names with -very poor- labels from other source. ... Which would mean that (mixing and matching data in an area) they should be contributing back to OSM, eih? Would that poor old local name of Madrid be

[OSM-talk] Bookmarklets for easier viewing of user contributions or object history (node or way)

2012-03-30 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Hi all, Sorry for cross-posting but I got so thrilled about creating my first ever bookmarklets as well as my first OSM Diary entries that I can't help but posting this to y'all who might be interested... From #OSM IRC chat: Since I got good feedback about the bookmarklets I created for Your

Re: [OSM-talk] POI for Hotel

2012-04-13 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
+1 for # of rooms. It's pretty much the same as # of parking spots in a parking lot, imho. As per prices I think hotel prices are not _that_ different from toll prices (at highways, parking, etc). For hotels, I'd opt for a price range system rather than exact prices, though, due to both the

[OSM-talk] Experiences of OSM collaboration with mobile operator(s) / device distributor(s)?

2012-04-17 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Hi there, Does anyone know of cases where device distributor(s) or mobile operator(s) would have collaborated/interacted with OSM in a way or another? I'm especially interested to know of any cases that would have pre-installed OSM using app(s) on Android devices but I'm keen to learn/hear of

Re: [OSM-talk] New editors

2012-04-21 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
It would be _super_ good if we had some tool that would flag and notify some advanced active mapper in a given area of any changesets that delete more than 2 features. .. I'd be totally up for checking any and all changesets in Haiti that delete _anything_. This is an increasing problem and

Re: [OSM-talk] Old versions of OSM?

2012-05-30 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
You can get sort of a touch and feel to how the map looked before if you have the .osm file for that time. Slice a suitable piece of it and view it in JOSM with Mapnik (true) Paint Style. The custom paint styles are available via Edit Preferences: Map Settings (3rd left side tab from top) Map

Re: [OSM-talk] Changing capitalization (Lima)

2012-06-01 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
(Added HOT to the list as the issue here is probably of interest In the areas where HOT is active.) Andrzej, What was your process / what tools did you use? In general: I've dreamed of solutions to fix not only capitalization errors / fuckups but also various other typing errors / mistakes in

Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?

2012-06-12 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Make sure you are viewing the highest zoom levels (z18-19) when trying to look for the highres imagery. This trick showed some additional hires imagery for some areas in Haiti last year. It was in JOSM, though and the bug may have been solved (haven't checked actually). .. So, may not help you

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag combinations: amenity and highway

2012-06-12 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Thorough analysis. I think you're right on at least most of the 2 objects? And my guess is that: 46 (parking, bus_stop) how is this in other countries? in germany this would usually be an error. Would imply two objects, too. ... Or then if someone wants to denote that this specific bus stop has

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag combinations: amenity and highway

2012-06-13 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
(Added tagging@osm. Isn't this more of a tagging discussion all-in-all?) Should both description and note keys be encouraged especially when using atypical tags/combinations? -Jaakko --Original Message-- From: Maarten Deen To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Tag

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikimapia data now under cc-by-sa

2012-06-14 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote: If this data covers the geographical coordinates which have been derived from google maps service, then it doesnt make any sense. Sense or no sense? I guess it depends among other things on whether you think (and the

Re: [OSM-talk] Unauthorized mechanical edit - changeset 11913785 - amenity=airport-aeroway=aerodrome

2012-06-17 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
No. Reverting does _not_ mean uploading old version. It means undoing your changeset completely or partially. See info about JOSM plugin Reverter (IIRC). .. And probably makes sense to look into it a bit before actually reverting -- as you may mess up more when reverting. As some commenter

[OSM-talk] No icons (rendering)? -- was: Re: Icons

2012-06-28 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Would anyone else here like to see objects, namely POIs from accepted categories listed in the OSM but that don't have an icon render always (when there is space on the Mapnik map)? I think that the fact that most often such POIs don't get rendered -- albeit sometimes they seem to, dunno why --

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Licence change redactions occurring in Haiti in the next half hour

2012-07-21 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Hi Bill / anyone interested to help in last minute fixing of Hispanola, *(adding to talk@osm in case there would happen to be anyone with interest and time to help)* Super glad to hear of you... Unfortunately I've wasted your to-be-contribution by a delayed response (having been swamped with

[OSM-talk] Re-mapping Hispanola = verifying that Haiti is ok, fixing Dominican Republic

2012-07-22 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
*En francaise plus bas -- an kreyòl plis desann* --- Dear all, After a the license change bot ran over Hispanola and removed all edits incompatible with the new license there's a good amount of things to do, especially on the DR side to fix things. On the Haiti side we shouldn't have much

Re: [OSM-talk] City routing grid for Australia and the US

2012-07-24 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Clodmade's (most!(!)) current data is from last December. Close enough? Dunno if you can query their API on the distance, so u gotta check that out. I just got a response from them the other day asking about when it will be updated and the response was that their engineers are assigned to other

Re: [OSM-talk] Bulk Uploading GPX files on the OSM website

2012-08-21 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
(Copying to hot + dev because there are certainly many similar cases as I describe in hot's regions that would benefit more-than-average-places of more traces dev as that's where the brains/skills to fix this problem are. Replies to dev only?) I'll just +1 this post, its remarks and

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-based community-maintained yelp-like project?

2012-08-22 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Not OSM, but slightly (and possibly-maybe increasingly) using OSM (website only, and as background layer only, currently): Foursquare. I actually started using 4sq again after they not only started using OSM (with above limitations) and blogged about their wish to do more with OSM -- but after I

Re: [OSM-talk] Adding key info from good email threads to help.osm.org? -- Re: [Tagging] name of river/admin area

2012-09-03 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
of documenting good question+answer pairs into help.osm.org... Cheers, -Jaakko On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 03/09/2012 21:30, Jaakko Helleranta.com wrote: Hi there, Is there some policy or common understanding of how key info from good email

Re: [OSM-talk] Source as attribute of object or changeset ? [was: Re: Import guidelines OSMF/DWG governance]

2012-09-19 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Have such schemes been proposed before ? Not sure about that. But this is logical and feasible _if_ all added/edited objects in a changeset had/have the same source. I can only say for sure about my own mapping: It would be almost always impossible for me -- except when tracing in areas I've

Re: [OSM-talk] Who Did It?

2012-10-02 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
This is really great. In case someone even less capable with java script bookmarklets than me is interested: I created a bookmarklet (based on previous similarhttp://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jaakkoh/diary) that makes it a breeze to access a given user's WHODIDIT view (for a predefined area and

Re: [OSM-talk] China's maps to be closely monitored for more accuracy - China Daily

2012-10-20 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
So, entering China with any GPS-capable phones is then a bit like entering the USAID HQ office (and I assume similarly a number of other gov offices) a few years back when they didn't allow any cameras into the building -- please leave all your BlackBerries and other smartphones with cameras here

Re: [OSM-talk] Walking papers down

2012-11-19 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
It's a bit different in a number of ways. I would summarize the difference (based on checking both out some time ago, things may have changed) by saying that: * Field Papers gives you space to write on * Walking Papers allows smoother printing of multi page prints (2x2, 4x4). Field papers seem to

Re: [OSM-talk] Question on undelete/restore

2012-11-19 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Do you have .osm extracts for the area? A slice from an old regional extract (or a planet for that matter) would give you the old data. What area is this? Cheers, -Jaakko On Nov 19, 2012 3:11 PM, Michael Krämer ohr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, using OSM inspector's coastline view I came across a

Re: [OSM-talk] What to call OSM data?

2012-11-26 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
On these lines my one-liner for OSM is that it is A project to create the best community-produced Open Geo Data set of the whole world of any (verifiable) physical object (and some non-physical data, too). So, my key points in that are: 1) Open Geodata 2) of all data, _integrated_ (no layers, at

Re: [OSM-talk] Multilingual map even more flexible...

2012-12-05 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
as is: a Great service! .. I hope it will stay up until it gets integrated into osm.org or some other main stream OSM service. Cheers, -Jaakko On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote: On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 08:32:04AM -0500, Jaakko Helleranta.com wrote: .. Any ideas why ht

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik at zoom=19

2013-01-14 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Big hand to OSM.fr for offering the z19! I've asked about this need before and will now just +1 the need for this also at osm.org. I would also welcome z20 -- perhaps with some request base limits (requested urban areas -- possibility to handle in more or less similar fashion as Mike does the

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapnik at zoom=19

2013-01-14 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.comwrote: If mappers in Europe and North America think that z18 doesn't show enough detail, then imagine what it must be like for mappers who are located nearer to the equator. Because of the Mercator projection we use, higher

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-ht] Haiti.

2013-01-16 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Hi Shawn, Having mapped Haiti for bit over three years now and living here for nearly two and a half, working with different geo/mapping projects I very much agree that -- and have been thinking a lot about -- figuring out how to highlight the good things that are happening here. There are some

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Go Map!! is in the Apple app store

2013-01-25 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Could someone kindly tell if this is anything that could be recommended for general map viewing and/or navigation use (by non-geeks)? Is there offline mode? With vector rendering? How does it compare to OsmAnd (on Android)? I'm not an iOS person but get increasingly many questions about an iOS

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Go Map!! is in the Apple app store

2013-01-25 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Whoops, sorry. It says editor quite clearly.. Should read emails b4 replying... From the go, -Jaakko Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel -- Mobile: +509-37-26 91 54, Skype/GoogleTalk: jhelleranta -Original Message- From: Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Tagging Live indoor music venues

2013-02-25 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
amenity=music_venue + music_venue=concert_hall/music_club/opera_house/? Now, how should restaurants that e.g. have live music every night (and host touring artists, too) be tagged? Should tags such as bar=yes or/and restaurant=yes be added where appropriate? Cheers, -Jaakko .. Who hasn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Updated Geofabrik Download Server

2013-03-11 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Thanks in general for these updates and MD5 sums are now supported, as are regional daily diffs BIG THANKS! -Jaakko Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel -- Mobile: +509-37-26 91 54, Skype/GoogleTalk: jhelleranta -Original Message- From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org Date:

Re: [OSM-talk] Out of Service Roads

2013-03-28 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
In Haiti we've usually taken a pretty clear map-it-as-it-is-on-the-ground approach. * storm wipes out a bridge -- the bridge is deleted until a new is built. * a road is damaged so severly that you can only walk it -- it's a path until fixed * a slightly minor damage to the road requires a 4x4

Re: [OSM-talk] Out of Service Roads

2013-03-29 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Ah, +1 for just removing the highway tag adding a note on weather damage. There's been similar discussion regarding demolished/collapsed buildings that still show in imagery. I've used was:building=collapsed/demolished IIRC on some of such cases -- after having had the experience of some

Re: [OSM-talk] Imagery Boundary?

2013-03-31 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Re: the topic in general: People against the boundaries: Please understand that they are considered highly useful in some areas and situations. For Hispanola (Haiti + Dominican Republic) the boundaries are maintained and used; pls don't mess around with them. I've also maintained the

Re: [OSM-talk] Why do we have so many registered users with zero edits ?

2013-04-14 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Not quite sure what Werner wanted to convey with the info about the shape and numbers of the long tail of OSM (perhaps nothing more than the numbers). Anyways, I'd just want to say that the tiny 0.1% of the data might well be a huge number of otherwise missing POIs, place or road names or other

Re: [OSM-talk] Hong Kong Wikimania maps

2013-05-12 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
http://Umap.openstreetmap.fr (from http://umap.fluv.io) is the best Open choice IMO. Creates much more sensible URLs, too. I CCd Yohan, the developer. But they shouldn't really need his or anyone's help to do what they need for this. Cheers, -Jaakko http://osm.org/user/jaakkoh Sent from my

Re: [OSM-talk] List: Densely Mapped Areas

2013-05-24 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Interesting in any case. .. And it should be easy to adjust the denseness of the mapping on the tiles vs latitude. .. Possible to see such update (if not already done)? Cheers, -Jaakko --Original Message-- From: Christoph Hormann To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] List:

Re: [OSM-talk] Videos of State of the Map US are up!

2013-06-12 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
I've successfully used Miro for downloading videos from Vimeo (and many other video services). It's great. In fact, Miro's practically the only way I've been watching videos in Haiti for nearly three years now. I would recommend it as the best video download/management tool for especially

Re: [OSM-talk] Videos of State of the Map US are up!

2013-06-12 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote: Just did a quick search and looked at the Vimeo UI - I couldn't find an option for making a video downloadable. The previous times I've used Miro I was able to get individual videos downloaded simply by opening the File

[OSM-talk] License/CT issues: Let's not punish the world's disadvantaged, pls.

2011-06-22 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Hi all, This may well be my first post to the talk list so let me very briefly introduce myself. I started mapping with OSM beginning of 2008 as what I'd say mostly a vacation/travel mapper + mapping some home corners -- that is, until the earth quake in Haiti last year. The quake spiked my

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] License/CT issues: Let's not punish the world's disadvantaged, pls.

2011-06-22 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:44 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: Haiti is one small area, most of the time people that copy from google don't have permission. I understand. And so is the humanitarian issue (vs. all mapping done in OSM) a small area. But that was what I was talking

[OSM-talk] OSM-Garmin relationship?

2011-06-30 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Hi, Does someone know if there is some sort of relationship between OSM and Garmin? The reason I'm asking is that 1) as you may know OSM is the only good enough map (data) for Haiti that e.g. makes routing possible -- now or in the foreseeable future (and most probably beyond). 2) Without

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Garmin relationship?

2011-06-30 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Thanks Greg as well as the few others that have replied to me privately, Just to clarify (so others don't need to reply on that): I do know of the OSM-Garmin coversion tools as well as the ready-made downloads that are available from various places. My personal BIG thanks in this regard goes to

Re: [OSM-talk] What does this symbol mean?

2011-08-06 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
It's typical for American highways' rush lanes to have a number of lift gates in a row. As Nathan noted, the gates are to lanes that are one way to one direction in the morning and another in the evening -- and that are in the middle of the road. The greater number of gates serve the purpose of

Re: [OSM-talk] Barriers of Entry

2011-09-14 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
I very much like Ian's idea. Coincidentally I talked about this with some people at SotM. It seems to me that a number of people have started editing osm after a significant delay because they've felt the barriers badly (both regarding tools and technical creation of the map as well as fear of

[OSM-talk] Helping mappers feel comfortable about their contributions / quality control

2011-09-20 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Hi, Some thoughts regarding various discussions about quality control / mechanisms in OSM: We (Seb and I) had a brief discussion yesterday with one of the advanced Haitian mappers about what improvements the locals would like to see in OSM tools to make their contributing to the project easier /

Re: [OSM-talk] The Open Source OpenStreetMap Book

2011-10-23 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
I don't have a good enough internet access at hand here but a few thoughts: * excellent! * if/since u go the open source way for the book (which LearnOSM.org is too, eih?): - would it make any sense to still keep it in a/the wiki and go the WikiTravel way creating an OSM version. Of the

Re: [OSM-talk] Will OSM tiles be CC-0 soon?

2011-10-26 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Getting off-topic-ish but to clarify: CC-0 is the equivalent of public domain (zero rights reserved). My understanding is that this was introduced because many countries don't have the concept of public domain as it exists e.g. in the American legislation. CC-0 enables the creators of

Re: [OSM-talk] Map of nearby users

2011-10-29 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
I've had the same problem on Windows I think both XP as well as Vista/Win7, at least XP and I think both on Chrome as well as Firefox (at least Chrome). +1 for the desire to (batch) send msgs to all mappers near you. I'd also love to see more mappers around me. It seems to be currently limited

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New contributing agency

2013-11-21 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
questions are more effective at getting a clear answer faster. Wish you luck as well! Fernando On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Jaakko Helleranta.com jaa...@helleranta.com wrote: Same situation in Nicaragua. Many here say: Oh, it's all public domain! .. where they merely mean, We have

[OSM-talk] Long tail challenges - was: Re: Bitcoin Spam

2013-12-03 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Hi Fred and others interested, I respectfully disagree that the disagree example items would be (blatant) spam. They are clearly all missing what I call a primary (classifying) tag (shop=* or office=* most likely for all referenced). And there are some tagging mistakes too on existing tags. Like

Re: [OSM-talk] Long tail challenges - was: Re: Bitcoin Spam

2013-12-03 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
: Hi, On 03.12.2013 23:50, Jaakko Helleranta.com wrote: And perhaps we should have better documentation / stated policy on adjectives / tone of the description tag? Clearly anything in there must be verifiable on the ground. 20 years of experience or satisfaction guaranteed are hardly

Re: [OSM-talk] Can I use OpenStreetMaps for my case?

2014-01-23 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Matej, You'll probably get more thorough answers from others -- or link(s) to page(s) that explain this in detail. .. But in short: Mixing data and license: If you are only using an OSM data derived map layer as a background map that you don't allow your users to e.g. geo-tag objects and you're

Re: [OSM-talk] Why Openstreetmap? (Slashdot and Guardian)

2014-01-30 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Someone has made a Spanish translation of this (can't remember who). The Spanish version is republished at the OSM Nicaragua blog http://blog.mapanica.net (thanks to Felix Delattre). Have other translations surfaced? Do we have a wiki page for notable mentions of OSM in the media? (on mobile / on

Re: [OSM-talk] Resume the Night of the living maps

2014-01-30 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
¡Hola Óscar! I'm interested and will definitely join the #notlm! I am passing this forward to my fellow HOTties and Nicaragua mappers to see who else from these (sub)communities would be interested to join. As for the Nicaragua mapping party that was mentioned in the email to talk-es, it seems

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] Resume the Night of the living maps

2014-01-30 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
not, Pascal Neis could prepare a Statistic page to follow this ? :) Pierre -- *De :* Jaakko Helleranta.com jaa...@helleranta.com *À :* Óscar Zorrilla Alonso oscar_zorri...@hotmail.com *Cc :* talk-ni talk...@openstreetmap.org; Talk@OSM talk@openstreetmap.org; HOT

Re: [OSM-talk] [HOT] [OSM-NI] Resume the Night of the living maps

2014-02-05 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Hi all, The 22nd would be excellent for us in Nicaragua since we have a mapping party that day. Adding the #notlm on top of that would be good both because we're at GMT-6 and because it would give us a nice reason to continue the mapping party to a nice mapathon. It's also nice that it coincides

Re: [OSM-talk] Announcement of the release of a new set of POI icons

2014-03-16 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
re: license: The original SJJB icons as well as the icons newly designed are provided under the CC-0 license and therefore can be used for any commercial or non commercial mapping application. (...) Some of the icons I found in the OSM wiki have another license. Please respect that.

Re: [OSM-talk] New ITO electricity distribution map

2014-04-30 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
This is very nice improvement! I'm happy to see that even my rather spotty/patchy mapping of power infra in Haiti is finally being visualized/rendered in a way that it starts to demonstrate the usefulness of OSM as power mapping platform for also those that don't use the data (in separate

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Captcha

2014-08-16 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
The last discussions about this that I can remember (and find with a quick search) were OSM-talk threads: - Hate captchas starting March 14, https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-March/069320.html and the follow-up to it - ReMAPTCHA Demo BETA 0.2 online! (Was: Hate captchas)

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-19 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
I too found the questions in the middle of the survey a bit odd. .. To the extent that I needed to re-read the email about the study + the Research page of the wiki to evaluate if this was a valid research of just an odd phishing attempt. And while I ended up trusting that this is a legit request

Re: [OSM-talk] online survey about the OSM community

2014-08-19 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Jaakko Helleranta.com jaa...@helleranta.com wrote: Should we have a Code of Ethics for researching the OSM community? Picking up from my own question: When looking at the Research page in the wiki I was actually trying to look for a section that would list

[OSM-fi] Fwd: [OSM-talk] uMap 0.3.0 released

2013-05-30 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
This might interest some people on these lists (that are not subscribed to talk@ or dev@). I think umap is a much needed missing piece for making it easy to create customized OSM-based my maps. The instances at openstreetmap.fr and fluv.io are great for those of us (Iike me) who are not able to

[Talk-transit] Haiti tap-tap (public transportation) routes starting to show up

2011-09-02 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
As Sebastien informed in his email yesterdayhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-transit/2011-September/001550.html the Haitian OSM community has started to map the local bus (tap-tap) routes in OSM. Thanks to Michael's

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] License/CT issues: Let's not punish the world's disadvantaged, pls.

2011-06-22 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com wrote: In looking through the data it appears a lot of it has sense been field server. Since the original mapper traced the data from imagery. It seems kind of silly for that to cause the data to be deleted. I couldn't have

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] License/CT issues: Let's not punish the world's disadvantaged, pls.

2011-06-22 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:13 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: To put this another way, what would happen if someone traced google Well, in the case of Haiti this is exactly what happened a lot -- with Google's permission, though. And so, the question is actually pretty darned

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes

2011-07-04 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:53 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: The position of nodes are often derived from the position of other nodes. Nothing of me is original. I am the combined effort of everyone I've ever known. (1) and hence the secret of Creativity is knowing how to hide

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes

2011-07-05 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
:37:51 To: Licensing and other legal discussions.legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Reply-To: Licensing and other legal discussions. legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes - Original Message - From: Jaakko Helleranta.com jaa

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] whitewashing nodes without tags

2012-01-28 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Q: what would be copyrightable from this? A: Nothing (imho). Copyright protects (a specific) form, not an idea (or so I was taught at IPR 101 at my university in Finland; in case the country matters in this case). And even the form must meet originality the criteria (if that's the proper term

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Feedback requested ... OSM Poland data

2012-03-08 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Umh. Of course other (as in any) maps can be used for _some_ level of verification (such as: oh, there seems to b a rd here! I should go out and survey that!) -- Or should I rather say navigation to help in one's own surveying. I'd be very very surprised if let's say any new company in the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] MoU between OSM and NLSF

2012-07-03 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
The way I see this is: Don't allow the term MOU make you not see The Point of this text and that is a clarification to the license terms. In plain(?) English the Finnish authority says that the OSM community is allowed to use the data _in OSM_ with the articulated clarifications because some in

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] MoU between OSM and NLSF

2012-07-04 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
I'm open to change title of the document, if you have good one. MOU - A brief document to clarify the worries of some in the OSM community about the compatibility of the NLSF Open Data license with OSM ODbL license + OSM's CTs? :) Cheers, -J Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel --

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ASTER or no ASTER?

2012-07-06 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
I think it's as clear as a non-standard license can be. As you noted: What are some examples of derived products that are re-distributable? 2. Creating a slope map That's really it in quite explicit terms, I think. My guess is that they want to limit the distribution of the data itself so they

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] FW: OSM place name data from Turkey

2013-04-29 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Version 1 would seem to imply not moved, or am I mixing something up? I understood it so that the version 1s might well be already moved as part of the import process. This is at least what has been done in Haiti when importing place names and peaks and other objects from the US military topo

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] New contributing agency

2013-11-20 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Same situation in Nicaragua. Many here say: Oh, it's all public domain! .. where they merely mean, We have it and can give it to you. Or: It's online and no one will protest (immediately at least) if you put it in OSM. The written permission (for which there are existing forms) is critical -- and

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Go Map!! is in the Apple app store

2013-01-26 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Whoops, sorry. It says editor quite clearly.. Should read emails b4 replying... From the go, -Jaakko Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel -- Mobile: +509-37-26 91 54, Skype/GoogleTalk: jhelleranta -Original Message- From: Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013

Re: [Talk-es] use osm-notes like pinwall

2014-07-08 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Hi all, I'm actually happy that Jan raised this issue. As he noted we've had an exchange of a few OSM messages about how he has viewed my notes use and my responses to his thoughts. As Rafael commented I'm a somewhat active OSM contributor (with Haiti and Nicaragua having been my biggest

Re: [OSM-ja] [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Go Map!! is in the Apple app store

2013-01-25 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Whoops, sorry. It says editor quite clearly.. Should read emails b4 replying... From the go, -Jaakko Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel -- Mobile: +509-37-26 91 54, Skype/GoogleTalk: jhelleranta -Original Message- From: Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013

[Talk-us] Duplicates in data uploads (using JOSM) -- was: Re: [Imports] Uploads to City of Salisbury, MD

2012-03-22 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
With previous large uploads I have experience the same behaviour resulting in massive dupes. So I guess it is not a conversion issue. I don't have experience with conversions nor (mass) imports -- but I _have_ had massive dupes problems a number of times when uploading larger amounts of data with

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Go Map!! is in the Apple app store

2013-01-25 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Whoops, sorry. It says editor quite clearly.. Should read emails b4 replying... From the go, -Jaakko Sent from my BlackBerry® device from Digicel -- Mobile: +509-37-26 91 54, Skype/GoogleTalk: jhelleranta -Original Message- From: Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Tagging Live indoor music venues

2013-02-25 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
amenity=music_venue + music_venue=concert_hall/music_club/opera_house/? Now, how should restaurants that e.g. have live music every night (and host touring artists, too) be tagged? Should tags such as bar=yes or/and restaurant=yes be added where appropriate? Cheers, -Jaakko .. Who hasn't

[Talk-ht] Mapping Friday this Friday 8/12 @ GRU

2011-08-08 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Cher toutes, (In English further below. Pls find my attempt in French for your amusement -- or grief?) Seb va expliquer en francaise meilleur, j'espere, mais je vais essayer ici: nous (Seb et moi) discutions pendent la weekend passee que nous doivont (?) continuer les Mapping Friday Meetups

[Talk-ht] Mapping Friday = Quality Friday -- Transfòmasyon Vandredi = Kalite Vandredi -- Cartographie Vendredi = Qualité vendredi

2011-08-17 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Dear all, Friday is approaching again, which means that we will be having another Mapping Friday Meetup or Mapping Friday at the GrassRootsUnited. Talking with Seb we came to the conclusion that rather than training something new and doing a little mapping related to the newly learned thing we

[Talk-ht] Mapping Vendredi = demain @ GRU

2011-08-25 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Hi all, Comme avant nous allons faire le Mapping Meetup a GrassRoots demain pour fixer le qualite de la carte. Le session pour les personnes plus commence a 9am et le session pour les personnes dans le niveau basique / intermediate commence a 1pm. See you tomorrow! - A demain! -Jaakko Sent

[Talk-ht] Haiti tap-tap (public transportation) routes starting to show up

2011-09-02 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
As Sebastien informed in his email yesterdayhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-transit/2011-September/001550.html the Haitian OSM community has started to map the local bus (tap-tap) routes in OSM. Thanks to Michael's

[Talk-ht] Welcome to OpenStreetMap's Haiti talk email list! * Byenveni nan Ayiti lis OpenStreetMap nan imel pale (talk-ht)! * Bienvenue à la liste d'OpenStreetMap Haïti email parler (talk-ht)!

2011-09-06 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
FYI all: I just created this welcome message for the talk-ht list. - Cher tous: Je just cree le bienvenue message bas (que toutes les personnes qui souscriver pour le list va recoir quand ils souscrive). Si tu veux traduire cette message meilleur, c'est bon (et s'il te plait et fait ca), si non,

[Talk-ht] MappingHaitiCamp this Saturday (October 15) at ESIH

2011-10-12 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Dear You/All interested in mapping, maps of Haiti (how to find/use them), geo-information, GIS systems, etc. In the spirit of open communities, open source and making the only the best map of Haiti http://j.mp/osm-ht even better a *MappingHaitihttp://mappinghaiti.posterous.com Camp* -- a

Re: [Talk-ht] [CrisisMappers] odbl non-agreement and humanitarian exceptions.

2012-02-02 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
(Added talk-ht@osm as that might well reach some ppl involved that the other lists don't.) Having bn part of the below-mentioned #OSM IRC discussion (finally using irc after 15 years of avoiding, ayii!) Here's my 2 cents: The OSM Haiti data's v1 odbl complient edit rates for nodes and ways are

Re: [Talk-ht] [OSM-talk] Subscribe to feeds of changes in your area with Changepipe

2012-02-02 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
This is kick-ass great, again. Dead-simple way to create areas to follow. I love it how easy it is to create the polygons -- and get the plain txt coordinates for them. Could this polygon tool pt b integrated w OWL? Can someone give guidance on visualizing the feed content? I'm copying this

[Talk-ht] Tip to Problem re-activating Natcom data plan

2012-03-21 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Salut tous, Since there is an increasing number of people on this list using a Natcom data connection in a way or another related to mapping activities here's a little tip for fixing the problem of re-activating a data plan (eg. Brian and I have both tried to re-activate without success -

[Talk-ht] Pas des edits pour 4(?) jours -- Fw: [OSM-talk] It has begun

2012-04-01 Thread Jaakko Helleranta.com
Dear all, Ce n'est pas possible de editer OSM pour environ 4 jour. Quel q'un qui parle ( ecrire) francoise meilleur que moi peux expliquer plus, mais I'll y'a deux choses qui passe: - change de serveur - change de license de OSM data Si Tinono lire cette ca list: est-ce que tu pourrait

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