Re: [OSM-talk] Failed water proposal reversal

2016-06-20 11:29 GMT+02:00 Tomas Straupis : > My main point is that existing tagging (especially widely used one) > should not be changed unless it gives some ontological benefit (new > features/properties being added, features split etc.). > actually you do not have to change any existing tag

Re: [OSM-talk] Failed water proposal reversal

2016-06-20 11:34 GMT+02:00 Tomas Straupis : > > actually the way it was before HAD big issues, you could not even state > if > > something was a lake or just the basin of a fountain (most kind of water > > areas just mapped as natural=water). > > Everything what can be mapped with new water sche

Re: [OSM-talk] Failed water proposal reversal

2016-06-20 11:14 GMT+02:00 Tomas Straupis : > I do not want to „eliminate“ water=* > I want to go back to the situation before the water proposal - with > landuse=reservoir, waterway=riverbank, landuse=basin, etc. etc. As it > used to be, and as it was and is still being mapped. > actually t

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

2016-06-19 22:35 GMT+02:00 Ilya Zverev : > As for the maps.me, I am glad that foreign names issue is basically the > only one that most people agree on. > there are lots of different issues, and even if many of them have not yet commented on them, I still believe they do have the potential to ha

Re: [OSM-talk] Failed water proposal reversal

2016-06-20 10:48 GMT+02:00 Christoph Hormann : > If you want to do something productive you could clean up the frequent > occurences of duplicate and sometimes contradicting tags on member ways > and multipolygon relations for river mapping. One of the problems of > the waterway=riverbank tag is

Re: [OSM-talk] 3D somehow not compatible with our map and editing concepts / capabilities?

sent from a phone > Il giorno 18 giu 2016, alle ore 12:36, Marco Boeringa > ha scritto: > > I have now added a type=building relation to group the Pantheon's Simple 3D > features in a logical way ... I hope you agree that navigating the > buildings individual parts, and finding the actu

Re: [OSM-talk] iD news: v1.9.6 released

sent from a phone > Il giorno 18 giu 2016, alle ore 03:44, Minh Nguyen > ha scritto: > > I'm familiar with our guidelines on automatic edits, but I find it a stretch > to apply them here. iD is essentially inserting an alternative, more stable > representation of a title the mapper specifical

Re: [OSM-talk] iD news: v1.9.6 released

sent from a phone > Il giorno 18 giu 2016, alle ore 03:44, Minh Nguyen > ha scritto: > > I see no problem with the semantics in > . if you wanted, you could see problems also there: it is at the same time: "abandoned village, town or city, usually one

Re: [OSM-talk] iD news: v1.9.6 released

2016-06-17 17:55 GMT+02:00 Minh Nguyen : > I disagree that these considerations make the iD feature less correct > given that the wikidata tag is already widely used. the important difference is, that someone adding a wikidata tag manually will likely check the wikidata object, someone doing i

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

2016-06-17 18:51 GMT+02:00 Jóhannes Birgir Jensson : > > I've suggested they have 3 name fields - name, name:en and a name:?? which > is chosen by user in preferences (at install). They have acknowledged it > but made no promises on how they will handle it. > I hope they are acting fast, I had

Re: [OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

2016-06-17 18:51 GMT+02:00 Jóhannes Birgir Jensson : > > This app is giving us an added editor manpower but we might need to help > them to make the tool more useful - with more and clearer presets being one > issue. > yes, I agree that the potential gain in manpower is promising, on the other h

[OSM-talk] 3D somehow not compatible with our map and editing concepts / capabilities?

With this mail I would like to open a general discussion, whether it makes sense to add detailed 3D data into the current OSM db. Living in a historic city with lots of tourists (many of them mappers apparently), and lots of famous monuments, I am observing for years now, that more and more detail

[OSM-talk] MAPS.ME edits - partly sub-standard

Apparently Maps.me, the most popular open map app for mobile, has gained some editing functions recently. While this is great news (millions of new mappers), it also bears some potential for trouble, as these new mappers often don't seem to be familiar with OSM tagging. In the past weeks there hav

Re: [OSM-talk] iD news: v1.9.6 released

Sorry that it took me a while to reply, I was out of office and just came back now. Il giorno 10 giu 2016, alle ore 21:07, Minh Nguyen < m...@nguyen.cincinnati.oh.us> ha scritto: is this your interpretation or is it explicitly defined like this? I'm astonished that these 2 concepts are supposedly

Re: [OSM-talk] iD news: v1.9.6 released

sent from a phone > Il giorno 10 giu 2016, alle ore 01:58, Minh Nguyen > ha scritto: > > > * Currently, Wikidata has 1,775,365 items tagged as “human settlements”. [1] > You’d expect to see these items tagged on place POIs, including cities and > villages but also places that don’t have boun

Re: [OSM-talk] iD news: v1.9.6 released

sent from a phone > Il giorno 09 giu 2016, alle ore 02:23, Minh Nguyen > ha scritto: > > If I understand correctly, you’re referring to a situation where, for > instance, Wikipedia editors have opted to discuss both an “administrative > territorial entity” and its government in the same artic

Re: [OSM-talk] iD news: v1.9.6 released

sent from a phone Il giorno 08 giu 2016, alle ore 18:44, Michael Reichert ha scritto: >> Am 08.06.2016 um 17:59 schrieb Bryan Housel: >> - When setting Wikipedia field value, also set corresponding Wikidata tag >> (worked on by Minh Nguyễn) > > Isn't this a kind of mechanical edit which sh

[OSM-talk] prostitutes in OSM

On the Italian ML this account was mentioned sending out spam, please suspend: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Anvimurthy cheers, Martin sent from a phone ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Osmose, duplicate housenumber

sent from a phone > Il giorno 01 giu 2016, alle ore 11:04, Jérôme Seigneuret > ha scritto: > > There is one POI (an unique) with addr:* (this addr poi can be locate on same > node as entrance or on building. It depends on choice of schema ) and one or > more POI with contact:* . In this cas

Re: [OSM-talk] Osmose, duplicate housenumber

sent from a phone Il giorno 01 giu 2016, alle ore 10:16, althio ha scritto: >> Can you explain why Osmose (and does it matter at all) warns about >> duplicate housnumber when a shop (node) with a set of addr:* tags is >> created inside a building (area) that is also tagged with addr:*? > >

Re: [OSM-talk] ford=no for highways which are known to have no fords?

2016-05-31 15:03 GMT+02:00 Richard : > often enough I get messages from people saying that drawing a bridge > or culvert for every minor highway/waterway crossing causes more > trouble than use and I tend to agree. > I disagree. Either there is a bridge / culvert in reality, and in this case why

Re: [OSM-talk] Contents of talk Digest, Vol 141, Issue 29, buildings above or underground.

sent from a phone > Il giorno 28 mag 2016, alle ore 13:58, St Niklaas ha > scritto: > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of talk digest..." ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https:/

Re: [OSM-talk] osm maps on wikipedia - discussion

sent from a phone > Il giorno 30 apr 2016, alle ore 21:45, Frederik Ramm ha > scritto: > > The fact that there is an association in Italy promoting both Wikipedia > and OSM does not make the statement "We are 100% independent" false. I believe 99% would be more correct, as there is some int

Re: [OSM-talk] osm maps on wikipedia - discussion

sent from a phone > Il giorno 29 apr 2016, alle ore 17:42, Simone Cortesi ha > scritto: > > Martin, please NO FUD, you know that Wikimedia Italia is not just wmf Italian > counterpart but we do other stuff related to open knowledge and open access > and libraries. > > Our main source of in

Re: [OSM-talk] osm maps on wikipedia - discussion

sent from a phone > Il giorno 29 apr 2016, alle ore 14:46, Richard Fairhurst > ha scritto: > > I've just created a quick, friendly wiki page to explain that and other > differences: > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Welcome_to_Wikipedia_users great page \o/ As a minor remark: "OpenSt

Re: [OSM-talk] osm maps on wikipedia - discussion

sent from a phone > Il giorno 29 apr 2016, alle ore 00:53, Frederik Ramm ha > scritto: > > but whether or not the UN have approved > something is not what governs our mapping. +1, as we see in politics, true global players give a ship what the UN says ;-) cheers, Martin __

Re: [OSM-talk] Bicycle GPS traces - more opendata

sent from a phone > Il giorno 27 apr 2016, alle ore 13:03, john whelan ha > scritto: > > so if you > filter out traces that go faster than ~35km/h or consistently slower > than ~10km/h, you should have bicycle traces. unfortunately the timestamps are not always reliable, as some people are

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou

sent from a phone > Il giorno 26 apr 2016, alle ore 22:16, Rod Bera ha scritto: > > You seem not to imagine for a second people in the South can take > initiatives and do things by themselves, without resorting to a charity > from the North. on a side note, and not to dissent with your argum

[OSM-talk] mappers in Wilmington, Delaware?

Are there any mappers in or near Wilmington? It might be worth surveying this address: 1209 North Orange Street in Wilmington With just one node we could cover the address of 285000 companies ;-) http://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/apr/25/delaware-tax-loophole-1209-north-orange-trump-clinto

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

sent from a phone > Il giorno 25 apr 2016, alle ore 20:41, Christoph Hormann > ha scritto: > > what is most readily available and most convenient for them and there > is little incentive in providing alternatives just because they are > open if they don't provide significant advantages for

Re: [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 11:25 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson : > But now we're getting into something for which there's NOTAMs and > established official data on, in a highly variable space, and one that is > generally > regarded as out of scope of this project >

Re: [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 11:00 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson : > Can we really be sure there is no airfield, just because we don't see >> anything in the aerial imagery? Isn't this maybe also a legal question >> besides physical characteristics? >> > > Well, if it's not on the ground, what are we to map? > E.g. a ri

Re: [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 4:50 GMT+02:00 Martijn van Exel : > I was mapping some rural area in the U.S. and noticed, not for the first > time, an aerodrome node in the middle of a field where there is obviously > no airport or airfield. Can we really be sure there is no airfield, just because we don't see an

Re: [OSM-talk] WeeklyOSM 296

sent from a phone > Am 26.03.2016 um 12:19 schrieb Jinal Foflia : > > Our thoughts and sympathy are with the families and friends of the victims of > the Berlin attack. https://mobile.twitter.com/CanadianGIS/status/687457967604645888/photo/1 ;-) __

Re: [OSM-talk] Redaction or revertion?

2016-03-23 8:19 GMT+01:00 maning sambale : > I'm aware that redaction is only for DWG dedicated accounts. What's > the best practice/criteria for redaction? > redaction might be required if third party rights are infringed, all other cases of problematic edits can usually be resolved by talkin

Re: [OSM-talk] Global high-resolution model of relief

sent from a phone > Am 17.03.2016 um 19:01 schrieb clustergis : > > We haven't got any ftp, but you can make an script using this template yes, I've tried this, but I got an http 502 bad gateway error cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@o

Re: [OSM-talk] Global high-resolution model of relief

2016-03-16 19:05 GMT+01:00 clustergis : > Data can be downloaded from the page http://theearthsrelief.com with CC > BY license. > is there a way to batch download / ftp or similar? Cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://li

Re: [OSM-talk] Global high-resolution model of relief

2016-03-18 5:38 GMT+01:00 clustergis : > We test the API and it seems that's right. May be that the cell that you > request is out. yes, you are right, I had requested a non-existing cell, for existing ones it is working. As a minor note, you might consider replying with a 404 rather than a 502

Re: [OSM-talk] Guides to improve navigation data in OpenStreetMap

sent from a phone > Am 11.03.2016 um 11:51 schrieb Janko Mihelić : > > +1 for counting all lanes what about the pavement/sidewalk, shall it be included? If yes, what is a lane there, e.g. when there are (partially) physical separations? cheers, Martin __

Re: [OSM-talk] Names for Fiji

sent from a phone > Am 26.02.2016 um 13:23 schrieb Jean-Guilhem Cailton : > > Maybe you'll agree that a geographical database with names for villages, even > in what you consider to be "English", can be more useful than one without - > which is the current situation in many parts of Fiji? y

Re: [OSM-talk] Names for Fiji

2016-02-26 12:09 GMT+01:00 Jean-Guilhem Cailton : > I might agree with your political preoccupation. However, I don't think > that this crisis is the right time to change established OSM practice > for Fiji. > acting like this will just establish this questionable practise more and more, and nex

Re: [OSM-talk] Names for Fiji

2016-02-26 10:38 GMT+01:00 Jean-Guilhem Cailton : > Apparently your point of view about "ungoing colonization" is not shared > by Fidjian officials, news media, nor by OSM mappers of Fiji so far. I'm all but well informed about the current situation in Fiji (I just read the Internet, haven't b

Re: [OSM-talk] Names for Fiji

2016-02-26 10:05 GMT+01:00 Jean-Guilhem Cailton : > > are these names English or fiji or hindi? > > > > cheers > > Martin > > > > They are "name" found in reports from Fijian officials or medias - that > apparently use English, an official language in Fiji (I haven't seen > Fijian news reports in

Re: [OSM-talk] Names for Fiji

sent from a phone Am 26.02.2016 um 07:08 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny : >> Note that names currently in use are often a simplified form of these >> "old" names, and that it is straightforward to recognize current names >> in old names. >> >> For example, on Koro Island, here is a list of correspo

Re: [OSM-talk] Winter Road Closures

sent from a phone > Am 24.02.2016 um 15:21 schrieb dasdje...@comcast.net: > > In order to help avoid this situation with OSM, I tagged highway 82 across > Independence Pass with "seasonal=yes". If anyone knows more specifics; i.e. > the precise extent of the seasonal closure or how better to

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] [Talk-us] license changes

2016-02-21 22:23 GMT+01:00 Henk Hoff : > It is interesting to read that not the OSMF, but OSM-US is the client for > this license exercise. To me, the license is the prerogative of the > Foundation, not a local chapter (either official or presumed to be). > > > > This discussion should be led on F

Re: [OSM-talk] Change in line barrier rendering coming up

sent from a phone > Am 14.02.2016 um 23:06 schrieb nebulon42 : > > This change (in the same way as other catch-all removals some time ago) is > intended to improve tagging quality and reduce tagging for the renderer. The > particular list is of course open to continuous discussion. As concret

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping Parking Lots

sent from a phone > Am 12.01.2016 um 01:22 schrieb Mike Thompson : > > I notice that some times just the part of a parking lot where cars may park > is mapped [1]. In other cases the entire lot, including the lanes between > rows of cars, has been mapped [2]. The wiki [3] doesn't specify whic

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal to close newbies@ list

sent from a phone > Am 11.01.2016 um 19:20 schrieb Rob Nickerson : > > Would be happy to see a few other low use mailing lists closed. why? Are they sucking resources? Attracting spammers? Making the lists list too long? I agree with closing newbies, as written, we have better means now to

Re: [OSM-talk] Not sure what to think

sent from a phone > Am 08.01.2016 um 12:55 schrieb Robin Paulson : > > also, they have bigger and better lawyers than everyone else, which is > probably the most important thing when deciding who is right and wrong. Facebook also have good lawyers (I guess), still they have lost against an

Re: [OSM-talk] Not sure what to think

sent from a phone > Am 08.01.2016 um 12:55 schrieb Robin Paulson : > > isn't there a "right to be forgotten" directive in eu now, which allows a > person/institution to be removed from searches in the eu? so, opt out, not > opt in. the database directive is opt in, not opt out. cheers Mar

Re: [OSM-talk] Is there a OSM map viewer program to dynamically view OSM data?

sent from a phone > Am 08.01.2016 um 03:58 schrieb Wuzzy : > > The reason why I am looking for such a tool is because I think it would > be really useful in many aspects. there are for example navit (offline navigation, own binary format) and qlandkarte (reads garmin map format) cheers, Ma

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

sent from a phone Am 06.01.2016 um 15:55 schrieb Andy Townsend : >> You would better use a dedicated tag for this, e.g. vacant_shop=yes > > Now you're just making it up as you're going along* :) No uses in OSM, though yes, sorry for not being more explicit, that wasn't meant as an actual ex

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

sent from a phone > Am 06.01.2016 um 12:59 schrieb Shaun McDonald : > > Where a shop has closed and all the fittings removed, usually ready for a new > shop to move in, I use shop=vacant, and where appropriate building=retail. shop=vacant seems a bit of a hack, "vacant" is not a shop type. Y

Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned buildings

sent from a phone > Am 05.01.2016 um 00:31 schrieb Nicolás Alvarez : > > but an > abandoned building is still a building, so maybe building=yes > abandoned=yes does fit I see it similarly, an abandoned building that is more or less in a usable state is still a building. Generally there are a

Re: [OSM-talk] Best way to amalgamate two relations?

sent from a phone > Am 03.01.2016 um 16:45 schrieb Dave F. : > > I want to delete redundant tags from my area of editing. I do it individually > if I see them but it's time consuming & laborious. do not do it, as long as the tags are correct (are used with their intended meaning), at least

Re: [OSM-talk] If a school is a shelter when a disaster happens...

sent from a phone > Am 30.12.2015 um 16:33 schrieb Dongpo Deng : > > That is, we cannot simultaneously use amenity = school and amenity = > social_facility; social_facility = shelter for a school with shelter > functionality. besides the precise tagging (social facility or emergency), I ju

Re: [OSM-talk] Best way to amalgamate two relations?

sent from a phone > Am 23.12.2015 um 14:16 schrieb Maarten Deen : > > In JOSM just select all members of the new relation and add them to the old > relation. When asked, say no to adding duplicate members. > This method will not fill member roles of the new relation. +1, for the tags there i

Re: [OSM-talk] How does one tag a business that closed and was replaced by something else?

2015-12-14 21:08 GMT+01:00 Lester Caine : > On 14/12/15 17:18, Andrew Wiseman wrote: > > In this case, two businesses closed and were replaced by a single > > business that took over both buildings (they are adjoining.) How should > > I tag this? I didn't see anything about closed: or former: on t

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 10:04 GMT+01:00 Sarah Hoffmann : > If you type in 'Starbucks' in the search box, then you just get > objects named that way. No difference with searching for, say Berlin. > > Now, if you type 'cafes' in the search box, then you are probably > looking for all amenity=cafe and that is a P

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim weakness

2015-12-14 9:25 GMT+01:00 Sarah Hoffmann : > To make a long story short: it's a tagging error. The wikipedia tag > should contain only links to wikipedia pages describing the object > not to pages about the operator. > +1, to tag the operator the key operator:wikipedia (or wikidata) can be used

Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

sent from a phone Am 04.12.2015 um 10:58 schrieb Paul Norman : >> this outgoing Board, that had a conception of basic democracy different from >> mine, > > I didn't know the background on one of the individuals, but I'd have rather > seen the other become a member the normal way (paying the

Re: [OSM-talk] FOSM Elections - We need representatives that can represent and respect the diversity of OSM, maintain his dynamism

sent from a phone > Am 01.12.2015 um 21:29 schrieb Pierre Béland : > > I am not on the FOSM discussion and cannot follow all the discussions you can, it's public: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/osmf-talk/ cheers Martin ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

2015-11-30 12:59 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale : > In some tribal village in Africa for example where an address might not > get any better than "3rd mud hut on the left after the group of 3 trees" > the idea of giving all the dwellings a simple address might open the world > of e-commerce up to them. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Written guidance on one shop with two lines of business (e.g. Cafe & Bike Rental)

2015-11-26 1:55 GMT+01:00 Bryce Nesbitt : > But it's not really on point to this issue: how to make one unified > business with two product lines. > Examples include: > >- Ice cream + bicycle rental > > is this at the same spot? I think I'd make this 2 different objects with a common operator

Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-11-25 1:59 GMT+01:00 Dave Corley : > It's an open election, open to anyone to stand and open to anyone > (members) to vote for who they choose. > > Not to be blunt, but if you don't like that, propose an amendment to the > governing rules which can be voted on. > > In other words, to paraphra

Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

2015-11-24 10:26 GMT+01:00 Max : > thanks, didn't see it. unfortunately that just opens another can of > worms. translation problems. i wanted to go to topf.hut.auto but ended > up at pan.hut.car instead of pot.hat.car. > for obvious reasons, these are very likely distinct systems per language,

Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

2015-11-24 8:54 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale : > I think their idea is that you can quote a location with the words which > for humans is much easier to memorize and less prone to mishearing over > dodgy phone and radio links than lat/lon or some other scientific grid > reference. yes, but it has a lo

Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

2015-11-23 11:27 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale : > They tend to emphasise the opposite: one building with a single address, > but multiple entrances; they can each have an individual w3w. thing is, in Italy they give each door/gate to the street a _house_number, and doors can be very close (literally n

Re: [OSM-talk] What3words

2015-11-22 15:32 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale : > You argument about being able to derive the w3w from the geometry is > valid, but requires the use of the proprietary API. But as you mention > their resolution is 3m, and I have seen discussions where people point out > that their house falls into multip

Re: [OSM-talk] A message to our friends at HOT, Peace Corps etc. about Changeset Comments

2015-11-19 15:30 GMT+01:00 Kate Chapman : > >> "Please draw one large area outline around groups of buildings and tag >> them landuse=residential" >> >> that is in violation of one of the core principles of OSM, namely to map >> reality, what's on the ground. It instructs mappers to map something

Re: [OSM-talk] A message to our friends at HOT, Peace Corps etc. about Changeset Comments

2015-11-19 4:57 GMT+01:00 Kate Chapman : > I fail to see how machine readable hashtags are "not useful". They allow > statistical analysis which can be used to inform future recruitment and > other activities. they are not very useful for other mappers who try to understand what was done in a c

Re: [OSM-talk] Why newbies' comment/message response rate is so low?

sent from a phone > Am 14.11.2015 um 15:04 schrieb Michał Brzozowski : > > I am kind of fed > up with how rarely newbies respond to changeset comments and messages. > Have you observed such low rate in your area? yes, I also send much more messages to new users than get replied by them (mayb

Re: [OSM-talk] Undiscussed (?) edits removing lesser-used highway=* tags

2015-11-10 13:15 GMT+01:00 GerdP : > Now that I what I would call very well put yes, you're right, as is Lester. I've been too fast (and had thought about some incidents which were about new keys actually). When it comes to new values for established keys, things are a bit different, I agree.

Re: [OSM-talk] Undiscussed (?) edits removing lesser-used highway=* tags

2015-11-10 8:48 GMT+01:00 Simon Poole : > One of the great strengths of OSM is that you can invent tagging on the > fly and trying to suppress that just so that the data consumers have it > easy, is misguided. In the end the main way our tagging evolves is be > contributors trying to map stuff tha

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=residential_link

2015-11-10 9:36 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > In theory, it is possible that former motorway/.../tertiary with slip > roads/ramps was converted to residential road, without changing road > infrastructure and traffic is still grade-separated. > sounds not very likely. At the point where a moto

Re: [OSM-talk] Undiscussed (?) edits removing lesser-used highway=* tags

2015-11-09 7:39 GMT+01:00 GerdP : > I only know a discussion in Germany which came to the > conclusion that tags like unclassified_link, residential_link and > service_link make not much sense: > http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=26083 > The wiki doesn't mention those _link types as

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in favor of relations

sent from a phone > Am 06.11.2015 um 14:00 schrieb Christoph Hormann : > > AFAIK osm2pgsql does not support including relation membership info in > the rendering database. it can make objects from multipoligon and route relations ___ talk mailing

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in favor of relations

2015-11-06 11:24 GMT+01:00 Paul Johnson : > Even in European cases, thanks to "E" routes in the EU, this is decidedly > not a strictly North American situation. I agree with your analysis and the proposed fix (maybe we can be faster than the deadline you suggest). FWIW, even without E-routes t

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Collective Database Guideline (was Meta-Data Guideline)

2015-11-05 13:19 GMT+01:00 Simon Poole : > Essentially I would view the references in the guideline as real world > features and their properties given that the OSM data model allows for > lots of ways a feature can be modelled > Doesn't the real world have even more ways of being interpreted? "

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Collective Database Guideline (was Meta-Data Guideline)

2015-11-05 13:36 GMT+01:00 Greg Troxel : > I also don't understand precisely what the guideline means. It seems > the ODbL means what the courts say the text means, so the guideline is > really a statement of how OSMF and the community view the edge cases, > which could well give weight to a case

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed Collective Database Guideline (was Meta-Data Guideline)

2015-11-05 10:21 GMT+01:00 Simon Poole : > If you have any feedback, questions of suggestions, please respond soon. > I'm planning on a final review and potential approval at the upcoming > LWG meeting on Tuesday and proceeding to formal board approval and > publishing in a matter of days. > are

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Carto: White Roads & Road Widths

sent from a phone > Am 03.11.2015 um 16:47 schrieb Pieren : > > I didn't express myself since a long time on this list. I just > discovered the new style and wanted to undestand how it was possible > to kill the tertiary road type in OSM. Because it must be clear : if a > road class is not rend

Re: [OSM-talk] Improved new Icon set for Open Street map

sent from a phone > Am 02.11.2015 um 18:52 schrieb Philip Barnes : > > As for your comment, I would say you are wrong, OSM is way ahead of > google in terms icons and map style. Most places are almost devoid of > mapped icons on google maps. because they chose a different approach (dynamic ov

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering idiosyncrasies

2015-11-02 20:31 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis : > I was once told by one of the style developers that the layer tag is not > used in the standard rendering on osm.org. Only the size of the area's > matter. > it is used, but not always (e.g. roads are always above buildings, regardless the layer these ar

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering idiosyncrasies

2015-11-02 20:20 GMT+01:00 Dave F. : > Never knew wood recognised the layer tag. Is this a recent development or > has the wood's icon layer made it obvious? > > As I'm unfamiliar with this language & the non existent formatting make it > illegible could you tell me if this applies to all areas? >

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering idiosyncrasies

sent from a phone > Am 02.11.2015 um 17:21 schrieb Dave F. : > > Is anybody able to explain why the wood on the left renders above the school, > yet the one to the right, under? because areas are sorted by size, bigger is rendered first. cheers, Martin _

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.36.0

sent from a phone > Am 02.11.2015 um 12:57 schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com>: > > Once that is up and running .. people will then want to have the brand of > cigarette/snuff/tobacco .. as they only like one brand... > so > shop=tobacco > cigarettes=death;slow_burn > pipe_tobacco=old_smok

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.36.0

sent from a phone > Am 02.11.2015 um 12:35 schrieb Colin Smale : > > Back to our chemists/drugstores/pharmacies, ... > > The "art" is going to be choosing these product categories so they are a) not > so specific that the list gets too long and unwieldy and b) not too > high-level that they

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.36.0

2015-11-02 11:45 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale : > On 2015-11-02 11:26, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > 2015-11-02 11:16 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale : > >> The second issue is that the value part of the KVP is redundant - the >> presence of the key is enough. >> > > n

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.36.0

2015-11-02 11:16 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale : > The second issue is that the value part of the KVP is redundant - the > presence of the key is enough. > not if you consider values like "no" and "only". > I have an instinctive aversion to modelling multiple values (the > real-world situation) onto mu

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.36.0

2015-11-02 10:34 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale : > Indeed > > So why not tag things objectively instead of discussing what things are > called in different countries? > shop=prescription_only_medicines;self_medication;pharmacy_only_medicines;household_cleaning > I've not yet seen a "prescription_onl

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.36.0

sent from a phone > Am 01.11.2015 um 13:01 schrieb Colin Smale : > > Is a pharmacy not the same as shop=chemist with dispensing=yes? isn't a chemist the same as a drug store? Around here there are 3 types of "shops": pharmacies, "parapharmacies" (dispensing no), drug stores (misleading name

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.36.0

sent from a phone > Am 31.10.2015 um 14:32 schrieb Greg Troxel : > > It's quite different in the US. Besides paying for prescription > medication (often with insurance, but still) a place called a pharmacy > will have a variety of non-prescription medication and various > associated stuff (ba

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.36.0

sent from a phone > Am 31.10.2015 um 00:22 schrieb Philip Barnes : > > Pharmacists don't technically sell medicines they dispense it and sometimes > collect a flat rate fee, if you are of working age and live in England. > > They do sell some stuff as well, but so do the library and post off

Re: [OSM-talk] open question about boundaries sharing nodes with ways or nodes

2015-10-14 14:40 GMT+02:00 Christoph Hormann : > The general convention in OSM, also for boundaries, is to map the actual > situation on the ground, that is which areas are actually administred > by which authority. > this often doesn't help though, because in remote areas there is nothing to "a

Re: [OSM-talk] open question about boundaries sharing nodes with ways or nodes

sent from a phone > Am 14.10.2015 um 12:27 schrieb Colin Smale : > > The boundary is where the government says it is... yes, but the governments of adjoining states having different ideas about this is also not rare. Cheers Martin ___ talk mail

Re: [OSM-talk] open question about boundaries sharing nodes with ways or nodes

2015-10-14 10:23 GMT+02:00 Frederik Ramm : > (If this happens - if the boundary is defined by the river or the > highway - then you still have various options of modeling this, for > example having two ways share the same nodes, > wouldn't this kind of modelling be "wrong"? If the boundary IS t

Re: [OSM-talk] open question about boundaries sharing nodes with ways or nodes

2015-10-14 9:49 GMT+02:00 Badita Florin : > This way is a highway and at the same time is part of the relation of a > boundary. This seems invalid since it merges two types of features on the > same way instead of keeping a logical separation between two different > things. Is this a valid way? Wh

Re: [OSM-talk] User WJtW - railway track counts

2015-10-12 11:09 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale : > about the sources of the other information (electrification info, usage > etc), maybe it's inside info, maybe it's a guess, or maybe he is just > widely-travelled. not sure about usage, but electrification can often be seen in aerial imagery (where hir

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