I am hoping in a couple of weeks to map the grounds at a festival that
occurs yearly in the same spot. This is not so much historical data,
as data that's only true for three weeks a year. The rest of the time,
it's just fields, with a few items (some toilets, etc) that stay in
place year round.
I've seen todo=job used for this purpose. And todo tags show up in
a number of verification tools, so it will be brought to people's
attention.
Stephen
2009/8/14 Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.au.dk:
I realized when mapping today that it would be very useful to have a
set of OSM status POIs
Hopetoun, Vic and WA, both towns. I got into trouble with this once,
because I'd only ever heard of the Vic one, and one of our clients was
talking about the WA one, so I arranged for a meeting in the wrong
state. Not quite as bad as the French firm that tried sending a
package to me in Austria,
Yeah, that's correct. Sorry, I didn't mean to use it as a reference
in that way, but a quick run through of the list in name order will
give you an idea of how many duplicates there are, and how big the
problem is likely to be. It's interesting to have a quick look in
postcode order as well -
I've done some rain-forest hiking, and I've noticed similar results.
If you really want to see some wandering tracks, try hiking along the
base of some cliffs, in dense forest.
I have noticed that the errors do seems to be less the faster I'm
moving. If I stand in one place for a while, the path
Umm, not the case at all. Highway= comes from the old english use,
where highway means way/path/track you use to get somewhere. These
days we assume roads and cars, but that's not the way it was
originally designed.
Stephen
2009/8/10 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:
To play devils advocate
2009/7/28 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:
In Australia in Telstra won a lawsuit against people OCR'ing the street
directory and selling white/yellow pages on CD. For all intents and purposes
Telstra owns the copyright on all Australian White/Yellow page directories
and now Telstra is a
No, you're wrong here. Maxheight is an element of the way that goes
under the bridge. It is caused by the bridge, but it is not part of
the bridge. It is the road under the bridge that has the limitation,
not the bridge. Divided roads often have different max heights on each
side, but it is one
'Seventh-day Adventist' is the official name, but commonly abbreviated
to Adventist or SDA.
Technically, an adventist is someone who believes in the (soon) second
coming of Christ (the Advent), so most Christian faiths can be called
adventists. However, it's usually applied to a number of
While we're talking about the Sunshine coast area, is anybody going to
the Muster this year? It wouldn't hurt to map the campgrounds and
festival while they're there - most of the year it's just a few empty
fields.
Stephen
2009/7/24 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:
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I'm sure somebody somewhere has used a tag like max_speed_opposite or
something like that, but the closest I've actually seen to a
recomendation is this
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Segmented_Tag
Look at the discussion tab for more info. I don't knwo how widely
this is
Yeah, you're right - this is more what I was thinking of seeing, but
the relationship is the one that came up when I searched. I don't
understand the wiki search results sometimes. Try this page. I think
the one I listed earlier is not the best option.
Good luck changing their minds. We have a similar rule near here - no
bad winters or wild animals, but some kids were supposed to walk
across a major multi-lane highway that had no crossing at all for
vehicles for several km each way, but they were within a 1km circle of
the school, so no
This is most definitely a problem with Gosmore. The fact is, most
roundabouts do not have names, and artificially giving them one to
make a renderer (or routing program) happy is tagging for the
renderer. Even if a roundabout did have a name, I'd be happier if the
routing software just said turn
What is your suggested ref for links that are an entrance, not an exit?
And can you give an example of what you mean by an exit ref? Where I
come from, some exits have numbers, but the number is associated with
the highway ref, so you'd still need that as well.
2009/6/25 Xav x...@nainwak.com:
How accurate are you wanting to go? To be truly accurate, you're going
to need to take weekends and school holidays into account as well.
Actually, on a serious note, I'd love to have a routing algorithm that
avoids schools during child dropoff and pickup hours when possible. I
don't mind the
I've ever used Potlatch-I was nervous about having an editor that was
always live - no 'edit-check-save' cycle. I understand that has
recently changed, but the point is it's not that hard to use some of
the other options.
Stephen
2009/6/17 Dan O'Hara oha...@homemail.com.au:
As a total newbie to
Sorry- that should be _Never_ used potlatch
2009/6/18 Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com:
I've ever used Potlatch-I was nervous about having an editor that was
always live - no 'edit-check-save' cycle. I understand that has
recently changed, but the point is it's not that hard to use some
2009/6/18 Rick Peterson ausr...@iinet.net.au:
Background:
I was having a look at my local area with Keepright and spotted a couple of
dead ended one ways. On close inspection in Potlatch, I see that the
junctions have not been formed correctly. The layout of the streets, street
names etc all
2009/5/25 Liz ed...@billiau.net:
Something else I can't work out how to tag is a jetty, the thing that juts
out into water and boats tie up to. But after 8 years of drought here,
perhaps I needn't worry too much.
Just be grateful you're not trying to teach English to some-one who
speaks
2009/5/22 Richard Bullock rb...@cantab.net:
Am I missing something, or can we not just assume that e.g.
each highway=residential has a speed limit consistent with urban areas in
that country - unless explicitly tagged otherwise
Actually, that wouldn't work where I live in Australia. Each
In my part of Australia, we have a speed limit that applies to every
non-rural street that is not specifically signed as being another
speed - basically case (b) below. The wording used in the law is
built up area. (In practice, the test for a built up area seems
to be does it have street
To get imagery in Josm, you need to use the WMS menu at the top to add
an imagery layer. You may need to set it up first with some plug-ins.
It is certainly possible, though.
Stephen
2009/5/20 Delta Foxtrot delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:
I tried JSOM briefly the other day but the entire
There are large parts of tropical coastlines where the coast is marked
as the outside edge of mangrove swamps. These are covered with water
most of the time, and adjacent to the sea, so are below the high
tide line, but are considered to be part of the land. You can't take
a boat through them,
Make sure you test it in the cold though, as noted before,
recharchable batteries especially tend to work worse in cold weather.
Doesn't mean they won't work, just that you'll get maybe half the life
out of them.
If you are going to use good alkaline batteries, don't expect them to
be easily
I'm guessing a food court. That's the term I've always heard, anyway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_court
Stephen
2009/3/29 Ulf Lamping ulf.lamp...@googlemail.com:
Hi!
Someone added amenity=food_outlets to the map features and even after
reading the comment An area with several food
OK, so while we're talking about this, there are a number of paths
near me. Nice smooth concrete, about 2m wide. They run through parks,
and there are signs on the park as a whole that say No motorised
vehicles. These paths are marked with a sign that has a pedestrian
and a bicycle, and another
And you can't always blame the journalists, either. Once they send
their copy in, the editors can have a go at it as well. I've seen
perfectly good and factual articles become very inaccurate as the
editors try and make it fit in half the space with bit of cut and
paste. You'd think these days the
What I like about the tag voting system is the discussion. The
discussion pages around a tag proposal are often quite useful - often
more so than the main page on the tag. The number of times a tag
proposal has been improved from the original proposal after discussion
suggests that any system
2009/1/18 Liz ed...@billiau.net:
Important matter on copyright duration
I realised only very recently that we haven't been reading the rules correctly
and published material - the street directory, the paper map, expires after 25
years at midnight on the next New Years Eve
Published
No, don't delete them if they may be of historical value (or if they
come back again). Tag them with something so they don't show in the
current day maps. We already have historical tagged items - things
that don't currently exist. (US Civil war battlesites, etc).
There is a festival near me
I didn't give it because I didn't remember, and it isn't what he's
looking for. It was the testing of the snap-to road functions and the
track-logging I remembered. It is a Mio PDA, model 7nn (720, 730?).
I can't look it up right now because I loaned it to somebody for the
Christmas holidays,
It's not hard to test. When I was unsure if my device was doing this
or not, I set it to snap to road, and then took it for a little walk
along the edge and then cut some corners in a park, then looked at the
tracks. For my specific device (not a Zumo), I discovered that the on
screen and main
2008/12/21 D Tucny d...@tucny.com:
What makes an optician's a shop whereas a dentist is an amenity? NHS?
Opticians selling sunglasses?
Because an opticians tend's to look a shop, and I can go in, buy
something (new frame, glasses case, cleaning materials) without an
appointment or seeing an
I'm a little confused. Everywhere I've seen a park on the side of the
road like that, it has used the same nodes, but not the same way.
Splitting the way should not effect the park at all, except if you add
nodes, in which case you'll need to add them to the park way as well.
Or am I thinking of
Start using it - the ultimate test of tag in OSM is whether it is used or not.
However, if people are actively discussing it, try and get a consensus first.
Stephen
2008/12/11 Colin McGregor [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
So, what can I do to help advance the cause of getting a seasonal tag
(be the
There is no problem adding a turning circle to courts as long as they
have one. Before the turning circle tag was rendered, I saw the
occasional mini-roundabout used as a turning circle, because it made
the map look right.
Stephen
2008/12/11 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
+1
I completely agree with all
I'm not positive, but I think that the very low zoom views don't
actually get a lot (any?) of their data from the live OSM data.
Rather they do, but they are only updated on very occasionally. There
is just too much data to be continually recreating tiles that large
from the main database.
The
Where you have the sign post for 4WD only, is that an access restriction or
a suggestion?
I.E. If you go on that road with a motorbike, or a 2wd vehicle, could you
face prosecution? Or would you just be considered a bit foolish?
It's a warning, not a restriction. I regularly take my 2WD
As well as You can't do this and You must do this we need You may
do this (that normally you can't). Where I live, you can't do a
U-turn at traffic lights unless there's a sign that says you can. If
we try and mark this by putting relations at every light banning
U-turns, we'll just end up with
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Stephen Hope [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Not all PSV's are buses.
What else?
Matthias
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We have a similar thing here in Queensland, Australia. You can't do a
U-turn at any traffic lights unless there is a sign specifically
saying that you can. I think this is the same across the whole
country, but I'd have to check. There are no signs saying you can't at
the other lights, you're
Not all PSV's are buses.
2008/10/23 Matthias Julius [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Shaun McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Usually psv for public service vehicle is used for access restrictions.
I missed that. It would have been too easy to call a bus bus, I
guess ;-)
Should we rename bus_stop to
2008/10/21 Kim Hawtin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
- Are the rail and road under passes right? I have set them as
tunnels, because it makes more sense than the freeway being a
bridge, how ever what do other folks use?
Without actually looking at what you've done - I've done both. If the
underpass
2008/10/9 Matthias Julius [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This leads to a nightmare. Those rules would need to be implemented
in every tool that works with OSM data (and cares about oneway
properties).
It's a nightmare we're probably going to have to address at some point
if we want to do good routing.
Bad assumption. This may be the case in parts of Europe and the USA,
but certainly not in most parts of the world.
2008/10/3 Matthias Julius [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Trunk roads are probably mostly oneway, too ...
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I hadn't heard of that one before. Do you have any idea how long it
operates as a GPS on battery? The GPS I have now is a multifunction
device - it goes for hours without the GPS on, but turn the GPS on and
it dies quickly. It is going to be used in the car with power, the
one I'm looking to
Yeah - look to see if they have a notes tag.
Are these the Yahoo coverage boxes you are talking about? I noticed the
one for Adelaide appeared a few months ago and confused me until I
realised that's what it was for.
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2008/9/2 Sascha Silbe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
There's no way OSM could change that default, it's up to your MUA vendor.
The buttons you're currently using are reply (with an implied to author)
and reply to all, not reply (default) and reply (alternative).
The only thing OSM can do is to trick your
The northern coast of Australia has many Mangrove marshes at river
mouths, some of them extending many kilometres away from the dry shore
line. PGS shows these areas as sea, because they are not dry land -
and that is were the coastlines would have been imported from. Note
that being submerged
If you can't cross from one side to another anywhere, then it should
be marked as two separate ways.
When you have a twoway road connect to one of these, it will connect
to each side, with a little crossing piece in the middle. When you
have two such roads connect, then it will look like a hash
2008/6/24 Michal Migurski [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I'd also take
issue with your rendering of Divisadero - it's a lot like Sepulveda in
in LA, apparently the wrong pronunciation is the right pronunciation. =)
That's a whole other can of worms. Is the right pronunciation:
- The way the locals
What is your definition of an artificial waterway? Dug and designed
by man? Made of non-natural materials?
Near me a few years ago was an open marshy field that was fed by a
stream, with a stream exiting.
Now the developers have put houses up in the field. They brought in
dirt and raised the
Says who? The boundary of the forest IS the road. :)
This is one of religious discussions - both sides KNOW they are right,
and no amount of discussion is going to change things. Unless we have
a central decision making force of some sort lay down the law, (in OSM
- hah!) you'll continue to
In theory, yes. In practice, maybe.
You would find that if you did a third measuring line, it probably
wouldn't intersect where the first two did. Small errors at the
measuring end cause massive errors at the other end. Even the guys
with the specialist measuring equipment working on a
Also, if you are in an area with extensive coastal swamps (mangroves
for example) be aware that the PGS data usually traces the land side
of the swamp. This makes sense, looking at the statement below, but
the mangrove swamps can extend for many kilometres to sea, and I
wouldn't want to sail
In the Brisbane Metro area, Pine Rivers shire (soon to be part of
Moreton Bay) has maps available of bike routes. I looked at one to
see how many there would be to map in the region. From what I can
tell, they've marked every wide footpath on the map, as well as shared
walkways through parks
A number of people seem to misread the lanes tag as total lanes on the
road, not lanes in each direction. A case could be made that it
should be total lanes, as that would allow for asymmetric roads to be
modelled. I suspect that a lot of the lanes=1 tags really mean that it
is a narrow, unmarked
This would be good. But even better, let me select a portion of a
track log and upload it. My track logs tend to be a nightmarish
tangle, with possibly hours of stuff before, after and during the
interesting bits. I can use them because I was there, and know where
I went, when and why (this is
There is (was?) a simplify way command available in JOSM, but you need
to add one of the plugins first.
Stephen
On 18/02/2008, Paul Zagoridis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Greg
Ah I did it on Potlatch -- sorry about that.
Regards
Paul
Greg Harper wrote, On 17/2/08 3:32 PM:
Where
Christoph,
There was some discussion about this on the list last month, (in a
thread that started by talking about the Icon tag), and there is now a
proposed tag as wayside_cross (there is also wayside_shrine).
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/wayside_cross
Wayside
the nodes that uploaded last time?
Is there some rule that says you can't have two nodes in the same
place?
Stephen Hope
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